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Darmik 12/02/17 5:52:56 PM #1:	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5138159/Community-divided-shopping-centre-Muslim-Santa.html A Muslim man dressed as Santa for Christmas photos appears to have divided shoppers at a Sydney mall with some being critical but others happy to have him there. Ersin Tustas has been working as Santa at the Rockdale Plaza since the beginning of the season posing with children to create happy Christmas memories. But the Santa was targeted with an online post that highlighted his religion. 'I Have just found out the Santa at Rockdale Plaza in Sydney I a muslim,' the post by Ben McNeill read, followed by three 'angry faces'. But on Friday families appeared to be throwing their support around the man-in-red, and said they didn't know why the actor's religion was important. 'If he is okay with dressing up as Santa then I am okay with it - we will still get our photos taken with him,' a mother of two children, eight and five, said. 'As long as the Santa is nice to the children I don't care where they come from or what they do in their spare time,' she said. A group of friends who sat next to the brightly- coloured Santa set told Daily Mail Australia they 'wouldn't have been able to tell who was under the suit' and religion 'shouldn't matter in 2017'. Kirrily, 30, said she didn't see a problem with the man on the set. 'At the end of the day it is a job he is getting paid to dress as Santa and that shouldn't be a problem,' she said. Another family said 'Santa here is very friendly and does a good job engaging in the Christmas spirit'. 'The big wig and glasses make it hard to see who Santa is anyway so unless he told someone he was a Muslim I don't know how they would know. 'My kids are still going to get their photo taken, once the little one gets used to the beard Santa has been really patient with him he is getting closer,' she said. The Santa declined to comment. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891469424] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5138159/Community-divided-shopping-centre-Muslim-Santa.html <quote>A Muslim man dressed as Santa for Christmas photos appears to have divided shoppers at a Sydney mall with some being critical but others happy to have him there. Ersin Tustas has been working as Santa at the Rockdale Plaza since the beginning of the season posing with children to create happy Christmas memories. But the Santa was targeted with an online post that highlighted his religion. 'I Have just found out the Santa at Rockdale Plaza in Sydney I a muslim,' the post by Ben McNeill read, followed by three 'angry faces'. But on Friday families appeared to be throwing their support around the man-in-red, and said they didn't know why the actor's religion was important. 'If he is okay with dressing up as Santa then I am okay with it - we will still get our photos taken with him,' a mother of two children, eight and five, said. 'As long as the Santa is nice to the children I don't care where they come from or what they do in their spare time,' she said. A group of friends who sat next to the brightly- coloured Santa set told Daily Mail Australia they 'wouldn't have been able to tell who was under the suit' and religion 'shouldn't matter in 2017'. Kirrily, 30, said she didn't see a problem with the man on the set. 'At the end of the day it is a job he is getting paid to dress as Santa and that shouldn't be a problem,' she said. Another family said 'Santa here is very friendly and does a good job engaging in the Christmas spirit'. 'The big wig and glasses make it hard to see who Santa is anyway so unless he told someone he was a Muslim I don't know how they would know. 'My kids are still going to get their photo taken, once the little one gets used to the beard Santa has been really patient with him he is getting closer,' she said. The Santa declined to comment.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 12/02/17 5:57:55 PM #2:	Why would him being Muslim be an issue for anyone I thought people would be pleased to see a Muslim man embracing western Santa culture enough to dress up as Santa --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:891469650] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>Why would him being Muslim be an issue for anyone I thought people would be pleased to see a Muslim man embracing western Santa culture enough to dress up as Santa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/02/17 5:58:39 PM #3:	Why would this ever be anything to be upset about to begin with? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:891469680] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>Why would this ever be anything to be upset about to begin with?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 12/02/17 6:00:04 PM #4:	It's not like he's some strange Qur'an bearing Santa. I don't really care what mall Santas do in their personal lives. In character as long as they are a fairly by the book Saint Nick, it doesn't matter who is beneath the beard. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:891469744] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>It's not like he's some strange Qur'an bearing Santa. I don't really care what mall Santas do in their personal lives. In character as long as they are a fairly by the book Saint Nick, it doesn't matter who is beneath the beard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 12/02/17 6:01:39 PM #6:	I mean, I just find that weird more than anything. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan <cite>The_Ivory_Man posted [p:891469815] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>I mean, I just find that weird more than anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 12/02/17 6:02:09 PM #7:	I thought this was gonna be about Santa being depicted as a Muslim. People are mad because the actor himself is a Muslim? <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:891469844] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>I thought this was gonna be about Santa being depicted as a Muslim. People are mad because the actor himself is a Muslim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King Rial 12/02/17 6:02:31 PM #8:	All presents due to Allah. --- I use Google... A lot.... >______> <cite>King Rial posted [p:891469864] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>All presents due to Allah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 12/02/17 6:03:25 PM #9:	He's not fat enough for the role. ~~The pictures of him don't make him out to be too jolly tbh.~~ --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:891469904] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>He's not fat enough for the role. The pictures of him don't make him out to be too jolly tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 12/02/17 6:04:27 PM #10:	Imagine being upset about this, Goddamn. --- http://i.imgur.com/iwo6yR9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uqXNtk6.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:891469957] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>Imagine being upset about this, Goddamn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/02/17 6:04:35 PM #11:	CrimsonRage posted... SGT_Conti posted... Why would him being Muslim be an issue for anyone I thought people would be pleased to see a Muslim man embracing western Santa culture enough to dress up as Santa lol good point, shouldn't we be supporting a Muslim embracing Western culture If he was upset about having to see a santa at the mall people would cry about him not adapting and tell him to get out of the country. He is fine with embracing it and is fine with working as a santa and people cry about and people say he cant do that because its not his culture. Its a lose lose situation apparently. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:891469964] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote>Why would him being Muslim be an issue for anyone I thought people would be pleased to see a Muslim man embracing western Santa culture enough to dress up as Santa</quote> lol good point, shouldn't we be supporting a Muslim embracing Western culture</quote> If he was upset about having to see a santa at the mall people would cry about him not adapting and tell him to get out of the country. He is fine with embracing it and is fine with working as a santa and people cry about and people say he cant do that because its not his culture. Its a lose lose situation apparently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 12/02/17 6:21:28 PM #12:	SGT_Conti posted... Why would him being Muslim be an issue for anyone I thought people would be pleased to see a Muslim man embracing western Santa culture enough to dress up as Santa I think the argument would be that he is not actually embracing Western culture; he is appropriating it. He isn't dropping his own religion and converting to another, or at least incorporating the culture into his own. This reminds me of when people get offended by a character in a movie being played by an actor/actress who does not share that character's background, whether it's based on race, nationality, sexual orientation, and so on. (I don't care one way or another, but maybe it's because I don't really have a problem with cultural appropriation.) --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:891470829] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote>Why would him being Muslim be an issue for anyone I thought people would be pleased to see a Muslim man embracing western Santa culture enough to dress up as Santa</quote> I think the argument would be that he is not actually embracing Western culture; he is appropriating it. He isn't dropping his own religion and converting to another, or at least incorporating the culture into his own. This reminds me of when people get offended by a character in a movie being played by an actor/actress who does not share that character's background, whether it's based on race, nationality, sexual orientation, and so on. (I don't care one way or another, but maybe it's because I don't really have a problem with cultural appropriation.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 12/02/17 6:23:07 PM #13:	Darmik posted... followed by three 'angry faces'. Lmao --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gif <cite>Turbam posted [p:891470915] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>followed by three 'angry faces'. </quote> Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/02/17 6:23:58 PM #14:	This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891470964] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 12/02/17 6:26:18 PM #15:	Dash_Harber posted... This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile. Is this even considered veiled? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:891471088] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile.</quote> Is this even considered veiled?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/02/17 6:27:28 PM #16:	SGT_Conti posted... Dash_Harber posted... This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile. Is this even considered veiled? I mean, they are claiming it's a religious issue, so they are making an attempt at veiling it. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891471146] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile.</quote> Is this even considered veiled?</quote> I mean, they are claiming it's a religious issue, so they are making an attempt at veiling it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/02/17 6:31:15 PM #17:	Dash_Harber posted... SGT_Conti posted... Dash_Harber posted... This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile. Is this even considered veiled? I mean, they are claiming it's a religious issue, so they are making an attempt at veiling it. What does Santa have to do with the religious side of the holiday lol. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:891471335] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile.</quote> Is this even considered veiled?</quote> I mean, they are claiming it's a religious issue, so they are making an attempt at veiling it.</quote> What does Santa have to do with the religious side of the holiday lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 12/02/17 6:32:08 PM #19:	TheVipaGTS posted... Dash_Harber posted... SGT_Conti posted... Dash_Harber posted... This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile. Is this even considered veiled? I mean, they are claiming it's a religious issue, so they are making an attempt at veiling it. What does Santa have to do with the religious side of the holiday lol. I totally agree. It's ridiculous, but that is what they are basing their argument on. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891471378] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>This is the most thinly veiled racism I've seen in awhile.</quote> Is this even considered veiled?</quote> I mean, they are claiming it's a religious issue, so they are making an attempt at veiling it.</quote> What does Santa have to do with the religious side of the holiday lol.</quote> I totally agree. It's ridiculous, but that is what they are basing their argument on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 12/02/17 6:32:33 PM #20:	Oh, I thought he literally divided the people, like when Moses parted the ocean. --- Look! my foot is on the rope! My FOOT is on the rope. If it weren't for that ref, I would've been champion! - Alexa Bliss <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:891471404] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>Oh, I thought he literally divided the people, like when Moses parted the ocean.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 12/02/17 6:35:05 PM #21:	how would anyone know he is muslim? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:891471533] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>how would anyone know he is muslim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blitz4532 12/02/17 6:35:42 PM #22:	I'd be fine with it, cultural appropriation opens society up to new and interesting ideas. If someone from a different culture can take something from a different culture and out an interesting new flair on it, I'd say the world is better off. --- I am the Stig "Or I could just, you know, drive the f***ing car." - TUSMEnterprises <cite>Blitz4532 posted [p:891471587] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>I'd be fine with it, cultural appropriation opens society up to new and interesting ideas. If someone from a different culture can take something from a different culture and out an interesting new flair on it, I'd say the world is better off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 12/02/17 6:36:54 PM #23:	Blitz4532 posted... I'd be fine with it, cultural appropriation opens society up to new and interesting ideas. If someone from a different culture can take something from a different culture and out an interesting new flair on it, I'd say the world is better off. Is he even doing anything different with it? Seems like people wouldn't have even known if it didn't spread around on social media. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:891471669] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blitz4532 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd be fine with it, cultural appropriation opens society up to new and interesting ideas. If someone from a different culture can take something from a different culture and out an interesting new flair on it, I'd say the world is better off.</quote> Is he even doing anything different with it? Seems like people wouldn't have even known if it didn't spread around on social media.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blitz4532 12/02/17 6:40:39 PM #24:	SGT_Conti posted... Blitz4532 posted... I'd be fine with it, cultural appropriation opens society up to new and interesting ideas. If someone from a different culture can take something from a different culture and out an interesting new flair on it, I'd say the world is better off. Is he even doing anything different with it? Seems like people wouldn't have even known if it didn't spread around on social media. Him? Probably not. I'm just going for worst case scenario of if he started to introduce more Muslim elements to the character. Hell, the character of Santa that we know of for the holiday is the result of arguably the most successful advertising campaign of all time. --- I am the Stig "Or I could just, you know, drive the f***ing car." - TUSMEnterprises <cite>Blitz4532 posted [p:891471859] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blitz4532 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd be fine with it, cultural appropriation opens society up to new and interesting ideas. If someone from a different culture can take something from a different culture and out an interesting new flair on it, I'd say the world is better off.</quote> Is he even doing anything different with it? Seems like people wouldn't have even known if it didn't spread around on social media.</quote> Him? Probably not. I'm just going for worst case scenario of if he started to introduce more Muslim elements to the character. Hell, the character of Santa that we know of for the holiday is the result of arguably the most successful advertising campaign of all time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/02/17 6:42:00 PM #25:	Blitz4532 posted... Muslim elements to the character. No, you couldn't possibly take away Santa's well known alcoholism and love of bacon! <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891471923] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blitz4532 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim elements to the character.</quote> No, you couldn't possibly take away Santa's well known alcoholism and love of bacon!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blitz4532 12/02/17 6:43:44 PM #26:	Dash_Harber posted... Blitz4532 posted... Muslim elements to the character. No, you couldn't possibly take away Santa's well known alcoholism and love of bacon! Think about it though, Santa riding a magic carpet with a magical genie conjuring presents as he gets to each house would be a fun take on the character. --- I am the Stig "Or I could just, you know, drive the f***ing car." - TUSMEnterprises <cite>Blitz4532 posted [p:891472018] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blitz4532 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim elements to the character.</quote> No, you couldn't possibly take away Santa's well known alcoholism and love of bacon!</quote> Think about it though, Santa riding a magic carpet with a magical genie conjuring presents as he gets to each house would be a fun take on the character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/02/17 6:44:54 PM #27:	Blitz4532 posted... Dash_Harber posted... Blitz4532 posted... Muslim elements to the character. No, you couldn't possibly take away Santa's well known alcoholism and love of bacon! Think about it though, Santa riding a magic carpet with a magical genie conjuring presents as he gets to each house would be a fun take on the character. I mean, all those things are pre-Muslim pagan Arabic, but actually does sound pretty awesome. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:891472093] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blitz4532 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blitz4532 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim elements to the character.</quote> No, you couldn't possibly take away Santa's well known alcoholism and love of bacon!</quote> Think about it though, Santa riding a magic carpet with a magical genie conjuring presents as he gets to each house would be a fun take on the character.</quote> I mean, all those things are pre-Muslim pagan Arabic, but actually does sound pretty awesome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blitz4532 12/02/17 6:50:06 PM #28:	Dash_Harber posted... Blitz4532 posted... Dash_Harber posted... Blitz4532 posted... Muslim elements to the character. No, you couldn't possibly take away Santa's well known alcoholism and love of bacon! Think about it though, Santa riding a magic carpet with a magical genie conjuring presents as he gets to each house would be a fun take on the character. I mean, all those things are pre-Muslim pagan Arabic, but actually does sound pretty awesome. You got the gist at least, which is the main thing (sorry about getting the culture wrong though). --- I am the Stig "Or I could just, you know, drive the f***ing car." - TUSMEnterprises <cite>Blitz4532 posted [p:891472371] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blitz4532 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blitz4532 posted...</cite> <quote>Muslim elements to the character.</quote> No, you couldn't possibly take away Santa's well known alcoholism and love of bacon!</quote> Think about it though, Santa riding a magic carpet with a magical genie conjuring presents as he gets to each house would be a fun take on the character.</quote> I mean, all those things are pre-Muslim pagan Arabic, but actually does sound pretty awesome.</quote> You got the gist at least, which is the main thing (sorry about getting the culture wrong though).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/03/17 4:14:41 PM #29:	Yeah I don't see what the issue is. It's a job/role like any other. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891523034] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I don't see what the issue is. It's a job/role like any other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 12/03/17 4:17:58 PM #30:	Unless he's wearing a sheet on his head and screaming shit about the quran to people there shouldnt be an issue --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:891523220] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>Unless he's wearing a sheet on his head and screaming shit about the quran to people there shouldnt be an issue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 12/05/17 5:35:47 AM #31:	Hmmm. I'll allow it. --- http://youtu.be/q2gO4DKVpa8 http://DemocraticUnderground.com/?com=latest_threads TrumpNews http://reddit.com/r/esist/new http://reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/new <cite>Notti posted [p:891620961] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>Hmmm. I'll allow it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bok_Choi 12/05/17 5:38:38 AM #32:	Darmik posted... 'I Have just found out the Santa at Rockdale Plaza in Sydney I a muslim,' the post by Ben McNeill read, followed by three 'angry faces'. why do racist people generally suck at typing out an intelligible thought --- I'm a good person. http://i.imgur.com/uj8LmVSl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xPDF9Y0.jpg <cite>Bok_Choi posted [p:891621002] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>'I Have just found out the Santa at Rockdale Plaza in Sydney I a muslim,' the post by Ben McNeill read, followed by three 'angry faces'. </quote> why do racist people generally suck at typing out an intelligible thought</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/05/17 5:41:48 AM #33:	i dont see why anyone should care skimmed the article, he wasnt wearing a hijab or anything over his head, and it seems like people are only upset because of a facebook post was he injecting islam into his act or something? i doubt it. dumb people upset over nothing --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:891621057] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>i dont see why anyone should care skimmed the article, he wasnt wearing a hijab or anything over his head, and it seems like people are only upset because of a facebook post was he injecting islam into his act or something? i doubt it. dumb people upset over nothing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiritSephiroth 12/05/17 5:53:16 AM #34:	Muslims should adapt to western society! Embraces the character of Santa Stop culturally appropriating Santa! --- http://i.imgur.com/GNk8cVz.gif http://i.imgur.com/oH2WTnb.gif http://i.imgur.com/e76ObTJ.jpg <cite>SpiritSephiroth posted [p:891621251] in Muslim San... [t:76055075]...</cite> <quote>Muslims should adapt to western society! Embraces the character of Santa Stop culturally appropriating Santa!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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