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WastelandCowboy 12/02/17 10:52:00 AM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2017/12/01/567758536/mcconnell-says-gop-has-enough-votes-to-pass-tax-bill-friday Updated at 1:49 a.m. ET The Senate narrowly approved a $1.4 trillion tax overhaul early Saturday morning following a day of procedural delays and frustration. The legislation, which would cut the top corporate tax rate to 20 percent and lower taxes for most individuals, narrowly passed in a vote of 51-49. Tennessee Republican Bob Corker was the only Republican to vote against the legislation, joining all 48 Democrats in opposing the sweeping overhaul of the nation's tax laws. Passage of the tax bill is a significant victory for Republicans who have struggled to fulfill many key legislative promises. The success followed a dramatic day as lawmakers anxiously awaited a final version of the bill. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters early in the day Friday that he believed that there were enough votes to pass the tax bill, but it took Republicans until late in the evening to make sure the bill conformed to strict Senate budget rules. McConnell's sudden certainty marked a dramatic shift after a number of Republicans on Thursday threatened to oppose the bill over fears that the steep tax cuts could add trillions to the deficit over time. McConnell worked around the clock to satisfy their demands, and a number of high-profile holdouts on the legislation said they expected a new version of the bill would satisfy a wide range of GOP demands. Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, once one of the firm holdouts because of concerns over the deficit, tweeted he would support the bill after getting assurances from the White House and Senate GOP leaders that they would work on legislation related to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which President Trump ordered to be rescinded earlier this year. Maine Republican Susan Collins also announced that she would vote yes after extracting several concessions. The new bill will include her request to allow taxpayers to write off up to $10,000 in property taxes paid to state and local governments. Collins also says McConnell pledged to support legislation to fund subsidies to insurance companies to help defray costs for low-income consumers. The Trump administration stopped paying those cost-sharing reductions this year. Leaders also expanded deductions for some small businesses that file their taxes on the individual side of the tax code to appease Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson and Montana Sen. Steve Daines, both former small business owners. Johnson said those changes, in addition to a promise that he will have a say in the process of combining the House and Senate tax bills, won his support. "What I expect is I will have a seat at the table," Johnson said. "I'm not anticipating offering any amendments." To help pay for the pass-through cut, senators plan to increase the proposed tax rate on corporate profits that are earned overseas and brought back into the U.S. The new level in the Senate bill will match the level in the House bill passed before Thanksgiving. Democrats spent hours objecting to the opaque process Friday as they waited for Republicans to finalize the bill. As the night dragged on, very few lawmakers had seen the legislative text, aside from sections that were being leaked or otherwise shared. Early in the evening, Hawaii Democrat Brian Schatz posted on Twitter to ask, "Does anyone know a Republican lobbyist so I can get my hands on a copy of this bill?" <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:891449933] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2017/12/01/567758536/mcconnell-says-gop-has-enough-votes-to-pass-tax-bill-friday <quote>Updated at 1:49 a.m. ET The Senate narrowly approved a $1.4 trillion tax overhaul early Saturday morning following a day of procedural delays and frustration. The legislation, which would cut the top corporate tax rate to 20 percent and lower taxes for most individuals, narrowly passed in a vote of 51-49. Tennessee Republican Bob Corker was the only Republican to vote against the legislation, joining all 48 Democrats in opposing the sweeping overhaul of the nation's tax laws. Passage of the tax bill is a significant victory for Republicans who have struggled to fulfill many key legislative promises. The success followed a dramatic day as lawmakers anxiously awaited a final version of the bill. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters early in the day Friday that he believed that there were enough votes to pass the tax bill, but it took Republicans until late in the evening to make sure the bill conformed to strict Senate budget rules. McConnell's sudden certainty marked a dramatic shift after a number of Republicans on Thursday threatened to oppose the bill over fears that the steep tax cuts could add trillions to the deficit over time. McConnell worked around the clock to satisfy their demands, and a number of high-profile holdouts on the legislation said they expected a new version of the bill would satisfy a wide range of GOP demands. Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, once one of the firm holdouts because of concerns over the deficit, tweeted he would support the bill after getting assurances from the White House and Senate GOP leaders that they would work on legislation related to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which President Trump ordered to be rescinded earlier this year. Maine Republican Susan Collins also announced that she would vote yes after extracting several concessions. The new bill will include her request to allow taxpayers to write off up to $10,000 in property taxes paid to state and local governments. Collins also says McConnell pledged to support legislation to fund subsidies to insurance companies to help defray costs for low-income consumers. The Trump administration stopped paying those cost-sharing reductions this year. Leaders also expanded deductions for some small businesses that file their taxes on the individual side of the tax code to appease Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson and Montana Sen. Steve Daines, both former small business owners. Johnson said those changes, in addition to a promise that he will have a say in the process of combining the House and Senate tax bills, won his support. "What I expect is I will have a seat at the table," Johnson said. "I'm not anticipating offering any amendments." To help pay for the pass-through cut, senators plan to increase the proposed tax rate on corporate profits that are earned overseas and brought back into the U.S. The new level in the Senate bill will match the level in the House bill passed before Thanksgiving. Democrats spent hours objecting to the opaque process Friday as they waited for Republicans to finalize the bill. As the night dragged on, very few lawmakers had seen the legislative text, aside from sections that were being leaked or otherwise shared. Early in the evening, Hawaii Democrat Brian Schatz posted on Twitter to ask, "Does anyone know a Republican lobbyist so I can get my hands on a copy of this bill?"</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 12/02/17 10:52:05 AM #2:	Other Democrats complained that the hastily complied bill included amendments that were hand written into the margin of earlier versions of the tax overhaul. The bill is projected to add $1.4 trillion to the deficit over 10 years. The Joint Committee on Taxation reported on Thursday that the economic stimulus from the bill would only make up $400 billion of that. That figure raised concerns with some Republicans, including Flake and Corker, who wanted the legislation to include a trigger mechanism that would force tax increases or spending cuts if the overhaul failed to grow the economy. That idea was rejected Thursday after the Senate parliamentarian told lawmakers that doing so would likely violate complex Senate budget rules. A number of other GOP lawmakers say they believe the JCT figure underestimates the positive impact of the tax bill. "This bill will end up reducing the deficit, because there will be economic growth," Ohio Sen. Rob Portman contended. "I feel very good about the fiscal situation." Senators must now go into conference with House members next week to work out differences in the two bills. If they can come to an agreement, both chambers would have to pass the version worked out in conference before it could go to Trump to be signed into law. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:891449943] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><quote>Other Democrats complained that the hastily complied bill included amendments that were hand written into the margin of earlier versions of the tax overhaul. The bill is projected to add $1.4 trillion to the deficit over 10 years. The Joint Committee on Taxation reported on Thursday that the economic stimulus from the bill would only make up $400 billion of that. That figure raised concerns with some Republicans, including Flake and Corker, who wanted the legislation to include a trigger mechanism that would force tax increases or spending cuts if the overhaul failed to grow the economy. That idea was rejected Thursday after the Senate parliamentarian told lawmakers that doing so would likely violate complex Senate budget rules. A number of other GOP lawmakers say they believe the JCT figure underestimates the positive impact of the tax bill. "This bill will end up reducing the deficit, because there will be economic growth," Ohio Sen. Rob Portman contended. "I feel very good about the fiscal situation." Senators must now go into conference with House members next week to work out differences in the two bills. If they can come to an agreement, both chambers would have to pass the version worked out in conference before it could go to Trump to be signed into law.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/02/17 10:53:34 AM #3:	I deleted my topic since it's teh same dealie --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:891450004] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>I deleted my topic since it's teh same dealie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 12/02/17 10:57:54 AM #4:	Lokarin posted... I deleted my topic since it's teh same dealie I saw. Yeah, didn't see yours until after I posted and I was like "oh, crap". <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:891450184] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>I deleted my topic since it's teh same dealie</quote> I saw. Yeah, didn't see yours until after I posted and I was like "oh, crap".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/02/17 11:01:01 AM #6:	Zangulus posted... WastelandCowboy posted... Lokarin posted... I deleted my topic since it's teh same dealie I saw. Yeah, didn't see yours until after I posted and I was like "oh, crap". I can just see both of you deleting it, then realizing you both deleted your topics, then remaking them, then deleting them again. Kind of like two guys going down a hallway and try to pass each other but keep moving the same way so youre in the way of each other. Ahhhh. An impasse. We meet again. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:891450291] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>I deleted my topic since it's teh same dealie</quote> I saw. Yeah, didn't see yours until after I posted and I was like "oh, crap".</quote> I can just see both of you deleting it, then realizing you both deleted your topics, then remaking them, then deleting them again. Kind of like two guys going down a hallway and try to pass each other but keep moving the same way so youre in the way of each other.</quote> Ahhhh. An impasse. We meet again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/02/17 11:08:49 AM #7:	The main things I hear on the reddit is that the bill contains a ton of hand written notes scribbled in at the last minute... that's the senate for you --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:891450603] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>The main things I hear on the reddit is that the bill contains a ton of hand written notes scribbled in at the last minute... that's the senate for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 11:35:55 AM #8:	recession 2.0 here we come --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891451729] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>recession 2.0 here we come</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 12/02/17 11:54:32 AM #10:	Also they stapled in an anti-abortion bill >.> --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:891452513] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>Also they stapled in an anti-abortion bill >.></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
miki_sauvester 12/02/17 11:55:52 AM #11:	Nice, pass-throughs got a big deduction. That's all I really cared about. <cite>miki_sauvester posted [p:891452557] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>Nice, pass-throughs got a big deduction. That's all I really cared about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarGreymon77 12/02/17 12:03:39 PM #12:	So they can do this, but they're too fucking lazy to repeal Obamacare even with a Republican majority and Republican President. --- Creator of the brand new Digimon: Digital Monsters community board <cite>WarGreymon77 posted [p:891452893] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>So they can do this, but they're too fucking lazy to repeal Obamacare even with a Republican majority and Republican President.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/02/17 12:05:02 PM #13:	WarGreymon77 posted... So they can do this, but they're too fucking lazy to repeal Obamacare even with a Republican majority and Republican President. Democrats voted no on it because they weren't permitted to read it and that requires a defaulting vote. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:891452955] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>So they can do this, but they're too fucking lazy to repeal Obamacare even with a Republican majority and Republican President.</quote> Democrats voted no on it because they weren't permitted to read it and that requires a defaulting vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/02/17 12:16:27 PM #14:	https://imgur.com/a/RcQXY Maybe this will help some of you guys out. I'm sure literally 90% of people here are getting a tax cut. Which I guess means you all must be rich evil capitalists ;) I know my wife and I are getting lowered taxes from this! --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:891453455] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/a/RcQXY Maybe this will help some of you guys out. I'm sure literally 90% of people here are getting a tax cut. Which I guess means you all must be rich evil capitalists ;) I know my wife and I are getting lowered taxes from this!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 12:38:23 PM #15:	that's not how it works you're going to be forced to pay taxes with non deductibles for things like education and such that will make PhD students and such go under it's a net loss the only people not losing anything make over 440k you're litterally getting a 10k increase in taxes if you make a dollar more then 112k taxes should be done on a sliding scale not a hard coded point system taxing anyone more then 30% is kind of dumb tho i agree with that at least.. --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891454544] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>that's not how it works you're going to be forced to pay taxes with non deductibles for things like education and such that will make PhD students and such go under it's a net loss the only people not losing anything make over 440k you're litterally getting a 10k increase in taxes if you make a dollar more then 112k taxes should be done on a sliding scale not a hard coded point system taxing anyone more then 30% is kind of dumb tho i agree with that at least..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/02/17 12:41:57 PM #16:	RoboXgp89 posted... that will make PhD students and such go under Considering how many professors of basket weaving are ballooning our student loan debts, is that such a bad thing? If you managed to get your masters, and still arent making enough that these changes would hurt you, it means your degree isnt worth the paper its printed on, or at least the owner has no clue how to turn it into gainful employment or useful innovation. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:891454712] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>that will make PhD students and such go under</quote> Considering how many professors of basket weaving are ballooning our student loan debts, is that such a bad thing? If you managed to get your masters, and still arent making enough that these changes would hurt you, it means your degree isnt worth the paper its printed on, or at least the owner has no clue how to turn it into gainful employment or useful innovation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 12:43:17 PM #17:	bulbinking posted... RoboXgp89 posted... that will make PhD students and such go under Considering how many professors of basket weaving are ballooning our student loan debts, is that such a bad thing? I'm in IT so I see the stuff computer scientist do and trust me I don't think most people could handle the work if they wanted it you litterally come home from work and go back to studying it's like college for the rest of your life --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891454784] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>that will make PhD students and such go under</quote> Considering how many professors of basket weaving are ballooning our student loan debts, is that such a bad thing?</quote> I'm in IT so I see the stuff computer scientist do and trust me I don't think most people could handle the work if they wanted it you litterally come home from work and go back to studying it's like college for the rest of your life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/02/17 12:45:45 PM #18:	RoboXgp89 posted... I don't think most people could handle the work if they wanted it Then it means the work isnt for them. My wifes cousin does IT and even worked at the white house in the past. He loves working on and with computers and doesn't consider any of it "work" in the waay most people use the word. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:891454886] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think most people could handle the work if they wanted it</quote> Then it means the work isnt for them. My wifes cousin does IT and even worked at the white house in the past. He loves working on and with computers and doesn't consider any of it "work" in the waay most people use the word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/02/17 12:49:25 PM #19:	Wouldn't it be cool if you could claim debt as anti-income so you can get in a lower bracket... --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:891455078] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>Wouldn't it be cool if you could claim debt as anti-income so you can get in a lower bracket...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 12:56:28 PM #20:	bulbinking posted... RoboXgp89 posted... I don't think most people could handle the work if they wanted it Then it means the work isnt for them. My wifes cousin does IT and even worked at the white house in the past. He loves working on and with computers and doesn't consider any of it "work" in the waay most people use the word. I read the books and stuff and it's nothing like reading a literary story you're reading hundreds of pages, writing down random shit and then you have hundreds of slides which only 10 will be on the test people get 60's in these courses --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891455397] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think most people could handle the work if they wanted it</quote> Then it means the work isnt for them. My wifes cousin does IT and even worked at the white house in the past. He loves working on and with computers and doesn't consider any of it "work" in the waay most people use the word.</quote> I read the books and stuff and it's nothing like reading a literary story you're reading hundreds of pages, writing down random shit and then you have hundreds of slides which only 10 will be on the test people get 60's in these courses</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/02/17 2:20:51 PM #21:	RoboXgp89 posted... bulbinking posted... RoboXgp89 posted... I don't think most people could handle the work if they wanted it Then it means the work isnt for them. My wifes cousin does IT and even worked at the white house in the past. He loves working on and with computers and doesn't consider any of it "work" in the waay most people use the word. I read the books and stuff and it's nothing like reading a literary story you're reading hundreds of pages, writing down random shit and then you have hundreds of slides which only 10 will be on the test people get 60's in these courses Then its a fault with the curriculum. There is a lot of that going around lately. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:891459370] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think most people could handle the work if they wanted it</quote> Then it means the work isnt for them. My wifes cousin does IT and even worked at the white house in the past. He loves working on and with computers and doesn't consider any of it "work" in the waay most people use the word.</quote> I read the books and stuff and it's nothing like reading a literary story you're reading hundreds of pages, writing down random shit and then you have hundreds of slides which only 10 will be on the test people get 60's in these courses</quote> Then its a fault with the curriculum. There is a lot of that going around lately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarGreymon77 12/02/17 2:24:57 PM #22:	I really wish that they'd worked the repeal of the Obamacare individual mandate into this bill. It needs to happen, preferably within the next 3 years. --- Creator of the brand new Digimon: Digital Monsters community board <cite>WarGreymon77 posted [p:891459578] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>I really wish that they'd worked the repeal of the Obamacare individual mandate into this bill. It needs to happen, preferably within the next 3 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/02/17 2:28:44 PM #23:	WarGreymon77 posted... I really wish that they'd worked the repeal of the Obamacare individual mandate into this bill. It needs to happen, preferably within the next 3 years. The individual mandate was vaporbill to make people think they were trying to make things balanced. Its a good idea which will take money away for corporations (healtchcare system is corporations) which is why it will never happen. We need to have the healthy pay for the weak after all... --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:891459768] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>I really wish that they'd worked the repeal of the Obamacare individual mandate into this bill. It needs to happen, preferably within the next 3 years.</quote> The individual mandate was vaporbill to make people think they were trying to make things balanced. Its a good idea which will take money away for corporations (healtchcare system is corporations) which is why it will never happen. We need to have the healthy pay for the weak after all...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 2:39:45 PM #24:	that's crazy what if you get hit by a car or something that's not your fault do you want people to go into debt the rest of their lives because they visited a doctor? how will they go back to work if they're sick and homeless all the time --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891460297] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>that's crazy what if you get hit by a car or something that's not your fault do you want people to go into debt the rest of their lives because they visited a doctor? how will they go back to work if they're sick and homeless all the time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarGreymon77 12/02/17 2:44:15 PM #25:	Creating a law which forces people to buy insurance is just insanity. I'd rather have the "universal free healthcare" stuff. --- Creator of the brand new Digimon: Digital Monsters community board <cite>WarGreymon77 posted [p:891460529] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>Creating a law which forces people to buy insurance is just insanity. I'd rather have the "universal free healthcare" stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Bolt 12/02/17 2:47:10 PM #26:	WarGreymon77 posted... Creating a law which forces people to buy insurance is just insanity. Why? It's not really that different from taxes in general. --- One day dude, I'm just gonna get off the bus, and I'm gonna run in the woods and never come back, and when I come back I'm gonna be the knife master! -The Rev <cite>Lightning Bolt posted [p:891460656] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Creating a law which forces people to buy insurance is just insanity.</quote> Why? It's not really that different from taxes in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 2:47:47 PM #27:	WarGreymon77 posted... Creating a law which forces people to buy insurance is just insanity. I'd rather have the "universal free healthcare" stuff. it's not insane those people get help if they really need it anyway they just don't have to fork over 800 dollars a month how is that insane it's emergency care --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891460691] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Creating a law which forces people to buy insurance is just insanity. I'd rather have the "universal free healthcare" stuff.</quote> it's not insane those people get help if they really need it anyway they just don't have to fork over 800 dollars a month how is that insane it's emergency care</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarGreymon77 12/02/17 2:49:10 PM #28:	RoboXgp89 posted... WarGreymon77 posted... Creating a law which forces people to buy insurance is just insanity. I'd rather have the "universal free healthcare" stuff. it's not insane those people get help if they really need it anyway they just don't have to fork over 800 dollars a month how is that insane it's emergency care Because not everyone can afford to buy insurance. --- Creator of the brand new Digimon: Digital Monsters community board <cite>WarGreymon77 posted [p:891460757] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Creating a law which forces people to buy insurance is just insanity. I'd rather have the "universal free healthcare" stuff.</quote> it's not insane those people get help if they really need it anyway they just don't have to fork over 800 dollars a month how is that insane it's emergency care</quote> Because not everyone can afford to buy insurance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 12/02/17 2:51:37 PM #29:	RoboXgp89 posted... do you want people to go into debt the rest of their lives because they visited a doctor? What about the people who go into debt because the government forced an 800 dollar per month bill on them out of the blue? Is that somehow better? WarGreymon77 posted... free I don't think you know what that word means. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:891460872] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>do you want people to go into debt the rest of their lives because they visited a doctor?</quote> What about the people who go into debt because the government forced an 800 dollar per month bill on them out of the blue? Is that somehow better? <cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>free</quote> I don't think you know what that word means.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/02/17 2:53:24 PM #30:	WarGreymon77 posted... Because not everyone can afford to buy insurance. If that is the case then they should qualify for Medicaid Anyone that cant afford insurance certainly cant afford a medical bill if something happens --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:891460967] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Because not everyone can afford to buy insurance. </quote> If that is the case then they should qualify for Medicaid Anyone that cant afford insurance certainly cant afford a medical bill if something happens</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 2:57:27 PM #31:	my friend was 18 and got charged 60k to be put on a painkiller when he had a concussion wtf do you mean medacaid? that's for kids and elderly people lol --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891461178] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>my friend was 18 and got charged 60k to be put on a painkiller when he had a concussion wtf do you mean medacaid? that's for kids and elderly people lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 12/02/17 3:12:55 PM #33:	RoboXgp89 posted... you're litterally getting a 10k increase in taxes if you make a dollar more then 112k What? <cite>Cacciato posted [p:891461949] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>you're litterally getting a 10k increase in taxes if you make a dollar more then 112k </quote> What?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YahooPoster 12/02/17 3:21:34 PM #34:	The GOP has just written their own obituary. --- I post on Yahoo. <cite>YahooPoster posted [p:891462337] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>The GOP has just written their own obituary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/02/17 3:23:57 PM #35:	Mead posted... WarGreymon77 posted... Because not everyone can afford to buy insurance. If that is the case then they should qualify for Medicaid Anyone that cant afford insurance certainly cant afford a medical bill if something happens Oh wow, you must live a privleged life. Some people make literally 10 dollars too much to qualify for medicaid and such. 10 bucks isnt enough to pay for a hospital, and some states have artificially low poverty lines which don't account cost of medical care when drawing up those lines. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqscensorship.blogspot.com <cite>bulbinking posted [p:891462449] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WarGreymon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Because not everyone can afford to buy insurance. </quote> If that is the case then they should qualify for Medicaid Anyone that cant afford insurance certainly cant afford a medical bill if something happens</quote> Oh wow, you must live a privleged life. Some people make literally 10 dollars too much to qualify for medicaid and such. 10 bucks isnt enough to pay for a hospital, and some states have artificially low poverty lines which don't account cost of medical care when drawing up those lines.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aquamew 12/02/17 4:06:50 PM #36:	time to actually go kill myself, I guess <cite>Aquamew posted [p:891464561] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>time to actually go kill myself, I guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 4:10:57 PM #37:	https://blog.taxact.com/how-tax-brackets-work/ --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891464759] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>https://blog.taxact.com/how-tax-brackets-work/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 12/02/17 4:12:54 PM #38:	This isn't good for most people. Even $100k+ folks will miss the loss of deductions of: 1. Student loans 2. Homeowner interest 3. Moving expenses 4. Charitable donations 5. State/local tax Basically, it looks like they want to keep people: 1. Uneducated 2. Renting for the rest of their life 3. Stuck in their shithole town 4. Be less giving 5. Be more poor --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:891464854] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>This isn't good for most people. Even $100k+ folks will miss the loss of deductions of: 1. Student loans 2. Homeowner interest 3. Moving expenses 4. Charitable donations 5. State/local tax Basically, it looks like they want to keep people: 1. Uneducated 2. Renting for the rest of their life 3. Stuck in their shithole town 4. Be less giving 5. Be more poor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/02/17 4:13:29 PM #39:	RoboXgp89 posted... my friend was 18 and got charged 60k to be put on a painkiller when he had a concussion Sounds like a Monopoly, you have medical competition don't you? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:891464874] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>my friend was 18 and got charged 60k to be put on a painkiller when he had a concussion </quote> Sounds like a Monopoly, you have medical competition don't you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 12/02/17 4:24:35 PM #40:	Praise trump --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:891465402] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>Praise trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 12/02/17 5:44:57 PM #41:	RoboXgp89 posted... https://blog.taxact.com/how-tax-brackets-work/ I see you deleted your other post, so its a little surprising that you posted this. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:891469068] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>https://blog.taxact.com/how-tax-brackets-work/</quote> I see you deleted your other post, so its a little surprising that you posted this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 12/02/17 5:48:21 PM #42:	SmokeMassTree posted... Praise trump Aren't you on public assistance? --- http://i.imgur.com/qL0DHFI.gif http://i.imgur.com/JL9rRLt.gif https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:891469220] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>Praise trump</quote> Aren't you on public assistance?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 12/02/17 5:53:23 PM #43:	bulbinking posted... https://imgur.com/a/RcQXY Maybe this will help some of you guys out. I'm sure literally 90% of people here are getting a tax cut. Which I guess means you all must be rich evil capitalists ;) I know my wife and I are getting lowered taxes from this! All that shows me is that I'm losing all my deductions so the ultra wealthy can have their taxes slashed. --- http://i.imgur.com/tsQUpxC.jpg Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:891469456] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/a/RcQXY Maybe this will help some of you guys out. I'm sure literally 90% of people here are getting a tax cut. Which I guess means you all must be rich evil capitalists ;) I know my wife and I are getting lowered taxes from this!</quote> All that shows me is that I'm losing all my deductions so the ultra wealthy can have their taxes slashed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 12/02/17 5:56:24 PM #44:	ClarkDuke posted... SmokeMassTree posted... Praise trump Aren't you on public assistance? My taxes this year single handily put Ico through another year of school, ok! --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:891469590] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>ClarkDuke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>Praise trump</quote> Aren't you on public assistance?</quote> My taxes this year single handily put Ico through another year of school, ok!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 12/02/17 6:08:08 PM #45:	SmokeMassTree posted... ClarkDuke posted... SmokeMassTree posted... Praise trump Aren't you on public assistance? My taxes this year single handily put Ico through another year of school, ok! Well now you sound silly, ok? --- http://i.imgur.com/qL0DHFI.gif http://i.imgur.com/JL9rRLt.gif https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:891470146] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ClarkDuke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>Praise trump</quote> Aren't you on public assistance?</quote> My taxes this year single handily put Ico through another year of school, ok!</quote> Well now you sound silly, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 12/02/17 6:22:29 PM #46:	Cacciato posted... RoboXgp89 posted... https://blog.taxact.com/how-tax-brackets-work/ I see you deleted your other post, so its a little surprising that you posted this. i dont know how taxes work i've never made more then 19k a year lol --- Bloodborne's Themes Explored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2-IxQ8VTQ <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:891470882] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>https://blog.taxact.com/how-tax-brackets-work/</quote> I see you deleted your other post, so its a little surprising that you posted this.</quote> i dont know how taxes work i've never made more then 19k a year lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 12/02/17 6:24:57 PM #47:	1 trillion over 10 years doesn't sound bad. Not sure what my perception is based on though. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:891471015] in Senate Rep... [t:76053906]...</cite> <quote>1 trillion over 10 years doesn't sound bad. Not sure what my perception is based on though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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