Poll of the Day > ATT: There will be no change in how your internet works after FCC's decision.

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WastelandCowboy
12/01/17 8:40:35 PM
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https://www.attpublicpolicy.com/consumer-broadband/reports-of-the-internets-impending-death-are-grossly-exaggerated/

by Bob Quinn
Senior Executive Vice President of External & Legislative Affairs
NOVEMBER 30, 2017 AT 3:18PM

Over the past week, there has been a lot written about what happens to the internet assuming the FCC adopts the proposed order, circulated last Wednesday, at its next scheduled open meeting. I would suggest that most of what has been written falls in the category of misinformation and rhetorical excess. I thought I might try something different and attempt to limit us to a discussion of facts. The short answer is, of course, that there will be no change in how your internet works after the order is adopted.

AT&T intends to operate its network the same way AT&T operates its network today: in an open and transparent manner. We will not block websites, we will not throttle or degrade internet traffic based on content, and we will not unfairly discriminate in our treatment of internet traffic (all consistent with the rules that were adopted and that we supported in 2010, and the rules in place today). These commitments are laid out in the broadband details section of AT&Ts main website. They represent a guarantee to our customers that we will provide service in an open and transparent way. They have been, and will continue to be, enforceable commitments. We will not remove that language and we will continue to update any changes we make to our network management practices. Those commitments are not new. They have been formally in place in one form or another at AT&T since 2005, and we have also publicly disclosed how we manage internet traffic with a version of our current broadband details description on our website since 2010.

We not only have enforceable commitments on blocking, throttling and discrimination on our own network, we also have incentives to ensure that other ISPs adhere to these same open internet principles. Take, for example, DIRECTV NOW, our over-the-top video service that travels over broadband connections whether owned by AT&T or someone else. We depend on an open internet for this service, and we accordingly conduct ourselves and will continue to conduct ourselves in the same manner we expect to be treated when we rely on the infrastructure of others to provide services to our customers.
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WastelandCowboy
12/01/17 8:40:48 PM
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The day after the FCCs decision, consumers are going to see no changes to how their internet works. Everyone will be able to access their favorite websites; no ones traffic will be throttled based on content; and the consumer internet is going to work the same way it did the day before the FCC order is adopted.

Consumers will, however, see enormous benefits from the FCCs actions. Utility regulation over broadband can only inhibit incentives for network investment. By lifting that cloud here, the FCC will restore the bi-partisan, light-touch regulatory structure that made the United States the world leader in mobile broadband infrastructure. If you have ever wondered why European mobile broadband lagged so far behind the United States over the past decade, you dont have to look any farther than the differences in regulatory approach which existed in Europe since 2003. Indeed, just as the United States was moving towards utility regulation in 2015, Europe was trying to reform its regulatory approach to mimic the United States post-2003 investment curve.

The doomsayers, of course, have a different view, conspicuously colored by a litany of hypotheticals and hyperbole, and generally devoid of facts. Some are calling this the death of the internet as we know it. The doomsayers, however, have been making these and similar dire predictions for years. In 2010, in response to the first FCC Open Internet rules, Free Press warned:

These rules dont do enough to stop the phone and cable companies from dividing the Internet into fast and slow lanes, and they fail to protect wireless users from discrimination. No longer can you get to the same Internet via your mobile device as you can via your laptop. The rules pave the way for AT&T to block your access to third-party applications and to require you to use its own preferred applications.

Of course, none of those predictions ever came true then and they wont come true after the FCC acts here either. There will be a lot of talk over the next two weeks on what the FCCs net neutrality order means. The truth is that, at first, no one will notice a difference in how their internet works. But when the removal of utility regulation translates into greater broadband investment and increased innovation on the internetwell, everyone will eventually notice that.


Can I have this in writing?
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helIy
12/01/17 8:41:41 PM
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comcast said the same thing.

then quietly removed every instance of them saying it recently.
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Zeus
12/01/17 8:42:02 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
The day after the FCCs decision, consumers are going to see no changes to how their internet works. Everyone will be able to access their favorite websites; no ones traffic will be throttled based on content; and the consumer internet is going to work the same way it did the day before the FCC order is adopted.

Consumers will, however, see enormous benefits from the FCCs actions. Utility regulation over broadband can only inhibit incentives for network investment. By lifting that cloud here, the FCC will restore the bi-partisan, light-touch regulatory structure that made the United States the world leader in mobile broadband infrastructure. If you have ever wondered why European mobile broadband lagged so far behind the United States over the past decade, you dont have to look any farther than the differences in regulatory approach which existed in Europe since 2003. Indeed, just as the United States was moving towards utility regulation in 2015, Europe was trying to reform its regulatory approach to mimic the United States post-2003 investment curve.

The doomsayers, of course, have a different view, conspicuously colored by a litany of hypotheticals and hyperbole, and generally devoid of facts. Some are calling this the death of the internet as we know it. The doomsayers, however, have been making these and similar dire predictions for years. In 2010, in response to the first FCC Open Internet rules, Free Press warned:

These rules dont do enough to stop the phone and cable companies from dividing the Internet into fast and slow lanes, and they fail to protect wireless users from discrimination. No longer can you get to the same Internet via your mobile device as you can via your laptop. The rules pave the way for AT&T to block your access to third-party applications and to require you to use its own preferred applications.

Of course, none of those predictions ever came true then and they wont come true after the FCC acts here either. There will be a lot of talk over the next two weeks on what the FCCs net neutrality order means. The truth is that, at first, no one will notice a difference in how their internet works. But when the removal of utility regulation translates into greater broadband investment and increased innovation on the internetwell, everyone will eventually notice that.


Can I have this in writing?


Isn't it *already* in writing? Plus, technically speaking, net neutrality wasn't really a thing until the Obama years so I'm not sure how much of an impact it actually makes since most of the stuff is hypotheticals.
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Mead
12/01/17 8:47:20 PM
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iFVT0fy
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WastelandCowboy
12/01/17 8:48:16 PM
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helIy posted...
comcast said the same thing.

then quietly removed every instance of them saying it recently.

Heh, good point.

Wonder what'd take to quote this as legally as possible. Like, if ATT were to retract this statement and be like nu-uh never said that, I can be like "Lol, I have it and its laminated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7c1jnlml6I
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helIy
12/01/17 8:52:31 PM
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you'd need as many lawyers and money as them if you even tried to do that, if it needed to happen
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Veedrock-
12/01/17 9:00:13 PM
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*As long as you have directTV
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Zeus
12/01/17 9:04:01 PM
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tbh, if you don't like the decision, all you have to do is wait until the next administration appoints a FCC guy.

Mead posted...
iFVT0fy


Well, they already have in the past so the fact that they said "do not and will not" is suspicious wording.

WastelandCowboy posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7c1jnlml6I


Guess that answer who's actually seen that movie.
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Gastroid
12/01/17 9:19:05 PM
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"We spent millions lobbying to repeal a law we will be sure to follow just as soon as it's repealed!"
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dragon504
12/01/17 9:24:21 PM
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Gastroid posted...
"We spent millions lobbying to repeal a law we will be sure to follow just as soon as it's repealed!"


This. The laws came about cause they were charging the shit out of netflix. I'm sure they'll be on their best behavior for a month or two and then start sending out the bills.
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