Poll of the Day > Do you believe the human mind can manipulate an RNG.

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Firewood18
11/30/17 9:45:47 AM
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I think so.
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Kyuubi4269
11/30/17 10:00:15 AM
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Depends how "random" it is.
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Fam_Fam
11/30/17 10:02:27 AM
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no because the RNG is generally built off an algorithm that does not take in human mind as an input
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Firewood18
12/01/17 12:42:41 AM
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But experiments have proved that one bit can be influenced for every 10,000 bits with a 1/trillion chance of luck.

It's like staring at a red light and willing it to turn green. The will of the mind can change things with two outcomes at a minimum of 50.02%
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Rockies
12/01/17 1:01:06 AM
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Firewood18 posted...
But experiments have proved that one bit can be influenced for every 10,000 bits with a 1/trillion chance of luck.

It's like staring at a red light and willing it to turn green. The will of the mind can change things with two outcomes at a minimum of 50.02%


the fuck
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Greenfox111
12/01/17 1:02:50 AM
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well since human's have only unlocked 10% of our total brain power, yes, i believe if we can unlock more power in our minds, we can do things such as manipulate rng, telekinesis, and, at the higher percentages, become as powerful as gods
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DocDelicious
12/01/17 1:07:46 AM
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Firewood18 posted...
But experiments have proved that one bit can be influenced for every 10,000 bits with a 1/trillion chance of luck.

It's like staring at a red light and willing it to turn green. The will of the mind can change things with two outcomes at a minimum of 50.02%

If you want to see something interesting check out some RNGs during major world events (like 9/11)...the numbers swing wildly in one direction or the other.
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joemodda
12/01/17 1:13:07 AM
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For a truly random number system, no.

But for psuedo-random number systems that (for example) take inputs from the hardware, potentially if the person in question manages to find a way to manipulate the hardware with physical input (which is controlled by the person's mind, mind you).
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Rockies
12/01/17 1:18:15 AM
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What does one out of every 10,000 bits with a trillionth "chance of luck" even mean? Wouldn't that actually be one out of every 10 quadrillion? How does that "prove" it was influenced? Humans can't really comprehend that level of number, are you really telling me they'd somehow be able to pick one out and influence it? Don't the very words you used, "chance" and "luck", imply that it wasn't actually influenced?

Somebody please explain this to me, I've never heard such an asinine phrase
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Rockies
12/01/17 1:22:47 AM
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Also the 9/11 thing is bullshit where they just cherry picked a small time window of data that represented the kind of fluctuations the RNG is also capable of experiencing normally
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Firewood18
12/01/17 1:24:30 AM
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It has to do with the theory of quantum entanglement. One electron in the brain being one and the same with another exterior electron.

The 1/trillion means its not luck at all.
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Golden Road
12/01/17 1:32:32 AM
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Of course it can! I always win computer Monopoly by forcing the RNG =D

I start the game by forcing the computer to roll me 4-4, and might as well buy Vermont Avenue. Then I roll 4-2 or 5-1, and I guess I'll buy Virginia Avenue. Second turn, I roll 1-1 and buy St. James Place. Roll 1-1 again and buy Tennessee Avenue. Roll 3-1 and land on Chance, and have the game to give me "Go back 3 spaces," then I buy New York Avenue. Bam, I win!
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Rockies
12/01/17 1:33:03 AM
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Okay, wait, so I think I see what you were originally saying. So out of one trillion samples of 10,000 bits, one of those samples had one bit influenced? I think I get that part now, but the part about it having anything to do with human factors still sounds like total bullshit. When you're talking on the order of that much of a rarity, that just sounds like normal variance to me, and the sample size you'd need to accurately conclude that it's a one-trillionth phenomenon is ludicrously large
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Lightning Bolt
12/01/17 1:33:49 AM
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Well, if the quantum mind is to be believed, then in a way yeah. Hitting a button can split into multiple universes, each one with a different number on the RNG. If the universes split out because a quantum superposition collapses, and the brain's decision-making is partly quantum, then it's a reasonable thing to investigate.

Maybe there's a way to influence which universe you split into?
Or maybe this is all the next generation of phrenology.
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Yellow
12/01/17 1:36:02 AM
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I question multiple things itt.
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shadowsword87
12/01/17 1:36:47 AM
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Y'all don't actually know how bits are stored in RAM, do you?
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Lightning Bolt
12/01/17 1:38:52 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Y'all don't actually know how bits are stored in RAM, do you?

It's gotta be magic at this point.
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Firewood18
12/01/17 1:41:03 AM
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It's the idea that at certain point random cant be random anymore and if we are in control at that instance.
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shadowsword87
12/01/17 1:41:25 AM
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Lightning Bolt posted...
It's gotta be magic at this point.


Nope, capacitors that keep getting refreshed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_refresh

Firewood18 posted...
It's the idea that at certain point random cant be random anymore and if we are in control at that instance.


You mean where if we know the exact position and velocity of absolutely everything at all time, you can figure out where everything is going to go?

Yeah, that's a pretty common theory.
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cute_fan
12/01/17 5:12:51 AM
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Do you believe the human mind can manipulate an RNG.

Certainly. By way of the "desire sensor". ;.;
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