Poll of the Day > Consoles are computers period... only called differently because Ralph Baer...

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ImmortalityV
11/26/17 9:19:22 AM
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Seriously, it is the dumbest shot ever to claim something is console exclusive because consoles are just prebuilt pcs.
Ralph Baer did do a lot for gaming like invent a couple of genres but to call him the father of gaming is a bit much.
I just feel like he got pity because he was jewish.

Open up a console and you find the components of a pc dating back to the odyssey. Just because the signal did not go to a computer monitor did not mean you can not use a converter. Same with hooking up old pcs to older tvs.
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wwinterj25
11/26/17 9:31:33 AM
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ImmortalityV posted...
Seriously, it is the dumbest shot ever to claim something is console exclusive because consoles are just prebuilt pcs.


Exclusives make sales and more money. A business likes money. It's not hard to grasp.
Also consoles are not pre built PCs as they are very limited in what they do when compared to a PC and you can't take many parts out to upgrade them officially hence the term "console".
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TheWorstPoster
11/26/17 9:34:38 AM
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The Magnavox Odyssey had no memory, GPU, or CPU. At all.

All it did was manipulate TV scanlines.
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RoboXgp89
11/26/17 9:57:16 AM
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No they aren't anyone who even looked into it would know that
consoles do not equal p.c.s

consoles run on proprietary software that is debuged by a company, alot of the stuff is even enginneered into the hardware

running a game on an emulator isn't the same as running it on a console which is why p.c. often needs 10x more power to emulate a console game

not only that but with security it's harder to hack a console then it is software on your computer, just like you can't download and re-distribute games without going through all this other stuff

a console may look similar to a p.c. but they aren't the same thing by a mile
pre ps3 they didn't even have hard drives to install anything on

if a console is a p.c. then a cellphone is a console
this could go on forever you could even say CNC machines are gaming p.c.'s or anything that has an electrical signal and memory is a p.c.

get your head straight
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jsb0714
11/26/17 10:17:14 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
get your head straight

You're asking an awful lot of TC.
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nesrtkfan
11/26/17 10:21:14 AM
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yeah but remember when iraq imported PS2s to power their computer systems for WMDs? People say that was a not a real story but I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a PS2 in the background of the iraq information minister during the war
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ImmortalityV
11/26/17 10:33:45 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
No they aren't anyone who even looked into it would know that
consoles do not equal p.c.s

consoles run on proprietary software that is debuged by a company, alot of the stuff is even enginneered into the hardware

running a game on an emulator isn't the same as running it on a console which is why p.c. often needs 10x more power to emulate a console game

not only that but with security it's harder to hack a console then it is software on your computer, just like you can't download and re-distribute games without going through all this other stuff

a console may look similar to a p.c. but they aren't the same thing by a mile
pre ps3 they didn't even have hard drives to install anything on

if a console is a p.c. then a cellphone is a console
this could go on forever you could even say CNC machines are gaming p.c.'s or anything that has an electrical signal and memory is a p.c.

get your head straight

You mean a custom os?
Also cellphones are both phones and computers.
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Judgmenl
11/26/17 10:36:37 AM
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[Computer] Console

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Veedrock-
11/26/17 10:39:41 AM
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Yet another race bait topic from TC.
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Foppe
11/26/17 10:43:20 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
a console may look similar to a p.c. but they aren't the same thing by a mile
pre ps3 they didn't even have hard drives to install anything on

To be fair, early home computers had cartridges, and it exist tons of games that are fully playable from floppies/CDs.
And the original Xbox is a PC with a proprietary OS. You could easily switch out components if you really wanted, but you gained nothing from it. Some homebrews supported extended RAM.
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Judgmenl
11/26/17 10:45:07 AM
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Xbox One literally runs Windows 10 and hardware you can buy in a store.
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ImmortalityV
11/26/17 10:51:17 AM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
The Magnavox Odyssey had no memory, GPU, or CPU. At all.

All it did was manipulate TV scanlines.

http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=883
Nah its signal was digital. Tvs are analog
The signal from the device was converted with use of screen overlays
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RoboXgp89
11/26/17 10:52:11 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
Xbox One literally runs Windows 10 and hardware you can buy in a store.


its not the same thing
even Mac's are supposed to work one way and do it better than a p.c. as far as security, longevity go

same thing with the console the console is specifically designed to run a game a certain way only since microsoft and playstation entered gaming do people think consoles are p.c.s because they have floppy disk and have trouble running games at fixed frame rates/not catching on fire
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Judgmenl
11/26/17 10:52:30 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
Judgmenl posted...
Xbox One literally runs Windows 10 and hardware you can buy in a store.


its not the same thing
even Mac's are supposed to work one way and do it better with a p.c.

same thing with the console the console is specifically designed to run a game a certain way only since microsoft and playstation entered gaming do people think consoles are p.c.s because they have floppy disk and have trouble running games at fixed frame rates/not catching on fire


Do you do nothing but speak out your ass?

I'm assuming you're never run a full fledged operating system on a microcontroller before.
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RoboXgp89
11/26/17 10:54:33 AM
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if you have to break the law to get something to run properly on another machine and use completely different parts that are more expensive then no it's not the fucking same not by a mile, moron

even someone who's dabbled in emulated games would know those don't run properly on p.c.
what insane drivel is this where people can play games on p.c. that are on console with no patches, no bugs

fucking bonkers
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Judgmenl
11/26/17 10:55:00 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
if you have to break the law


????
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RoboXgp89
11/26/17 10:56:53 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
if you have to break the law


????


you know what I'm talking about emulated games on p.c. have graphical errors and hiccup all the time
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Judgmenl
11/26/17 11:00:11 AM
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the reverse engineering of software isn't illegal under the DMCA. The distribution of copyrighted material absolutely is.

I've actually worked for a company where we've had people try and reverse engineer our software before. Nothing we can do about it and people put up bounties (of tens of thousands of dollars) for people to successfully reverse engineer software.

Are you twelve?
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Foppe
11/26/17 11:00:54 AM
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...heh, this topic actually reminded me of the 3DO Blaster.
It was basically the 3DO hardware built into an ISA card that you inserted in your PC to run 3DO games natively on your PC.
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