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Nomadic View 11/25/17 5:01:11 PM #51:	It comes down to processing power over graphics. You can do more with the newer generations engine, but visually things have kinda peaked. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:891043376] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>It comes down to processing power over graphics. You can do more with the newer generations engine, but visually things have kinda peaked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
runuts27 11/25/17 5:10:01 PM #52:	--- I'm interested in this... <cite>runuts27 posted [p:891043787] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 11/25/17 5:15:09 PM #53:	why in the living fuck arenyou guys using a PS3 low effort remaster in order to squeeze out more money an example of ps4 graphics Arkham knight, battlefield 1, final fantasy 15, metal gear solid 5, Uncharted 4, etc All of these look so much significantly better than last gen titles --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:891044045] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>why in the living fuck arenyou guys using a PS3 low effort remaster in order to squeeze out more money an example of ps4 graphics Arkham knight, battlefield 1, final fantasy 15, metal gear solid 5, Uncharted 4, etc All of these look so much significantly better than last gen titles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 11/25/17 5:19:50 PM #54:	metralo posted... why in the living fuck arenyou guys using a PS3 low effort remaster in order to squeeze out more money an example of ps4 graphics Arkham knight, battlefield 1, final fantasy 15, metal gear solid 5, Uncharted 4, etc All of these look so much significantly better than last gen titles Take MGSV out of there as well as it's a multi-platform game and hardly looks different between last gen and current gen. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:891044257] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>why in the living fuck arenyou guys using a PS3 low effort remaster in order to squeeze out more money an example of ps4 graphics Arkham knight, battlefield 1, final fantasy 15, metal gear solid 5, Uncharted 4, etc All of these look so much significantly better than last gen titles</quote> Take MGSV out of there as well as it's a multi-platform game and hardly looks different between last gen and current gen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecSkorpio 11/25/17 5:24:51 PM #55:	metralo posted... why in the living fuck arenyou guys using a PS3 low effort remaster in order to squeeze out more money an example of ps4 graphics Arkham knight, battlefield 1, final fantasy 15, metal gear solid 5, Uncharted 4, etc All of these look so much significantly better than last gen titles MGS V was developed for last gen. --- http://i.imgur.com/vQLlUd0.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/tWy9NTL.png <cite>AlecSkorpio posted [p:891044476] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>why in the living fuck arenyou guys using a PS3 low effort remaster in order to squeeze out more money an example of ps4 graphics Arkham knight, battlefield 1, final fantasy 15, metal gear solid 5, Uncharted 4, etc All of these look so much significantly better than last gen titles</quote> MGS V was developed for last gen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 11/25/17 5:29:10 PM #56:	AlecSkorpio posted... metralo posted... why in the living fuck arenyou guys using a PS3 low effort remaster in order to squeeze out more money an example of ps4 graphics Arkham knight, battlefield 1, final fantasy 15, trash, Uncharted 4, etc All of these look so much significantly better than last gen titles Trash was developed for last gen. This --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m Dokkan FC: 1923172355 <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:891044667] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlecSkorpio posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>why in the living fuck arenyou guys using a PS3 low effort remaster in order to squeeze out more money an example of ps4 graphics Arkham knight, battlefield 1, final fantasy 15, trash, Uncharted 4, etc All of these look so much significantly better than last gen titles</quote> Trash was developed for last gen.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 11/25/17 5:31:01 PM #57:	Steady frame rate is the goal now --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:891044747] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>Steady frame rate is the goal now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 5:35:06 PM #58:	southcoast09 posted... Graphics have essentially peaked. This is what developers get for their arms race to needlessly overpower every system while refusing to have good game libraries. Not everybody's idea of relaxing and playing a game is to hope your internet connection holds and compete online. I don't think I ever want to play another fps game in my life. That's practically all we got for ten years. This is why we might be heading for another crash. Sure, developers/hardware companies might choose to not be greedy and keep giving us great PS4/Xbox games for the next 10 years. But where's the easy money in that? Instead they will start pushing new consoles or even worse, 'console plus' releases (e.g. PS4 Neo) every couple years even though we don't need them. In the past you'd await a new console with anticipation (e.g. NES > SNES > N64) and said new console would blow your mind with its amazing new graphics and feats that blow its predecessor out of the water (e.g. compare SMB1 to SMW to SM64). By the end of each console cycle you'd still be wowed by games that really tapped into the console (e.g. SMB1 vs SMB3, SMW vs DKC, SM64 vs Conker's bad fur day). Now they will simply release games that your console could have handled, but that are exclusive to the new one because, fuck you, e.g. MK 10 was cancelled for PS3/XBOX360, and I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there. <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891044943] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>Graphics have essentially peaked. This is what developers get for their arms race to needlessly overpower every system while refusing to have good game libraries. Not everybody's idea of relaxing and playing a game is to hope your internet connection holds and compete online. I don't think I ever want to play another fps game in my life. That's practically all we got for ten years.</quote> This is why we might be heading for another crash. Sure, developers/hardware companies might choose to not be greedy and keep giving us great PS4/Xbox games for the next 10 years. But where's the easy money in that? Instead they will start pushing new consoles or even worse, 'console plus' releases (e.g. PS4 Neo) every couple years even though we don't need them. In the past you'd await a new console with anticipation (e.g. NES > SNES > N64) and said new console would blow your mind with its amazing new graphics and feats that blow its predecessor out of the water (e.g. compare SMB1 to SMW to SM64). By the end of each console cycle you'd still be wowed by games that really tapped into the console (e.g. SMB1 vs SMB3, SMW vs DKC, SM64 vs Conker's bad fur day). Now they will simply release games that your console could have handled, but that are exclusive to the new one because, fuck you, e.g. MK 10 was cancelled for PS3/XBOX360, and I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 5:47:40 PM #59:	fan357 posted... using a remastered game to compare systems is worthless. My point from earlier still stands. Arkham Knight and Horizon are far beyond the PS3s capabilities. All of this. Remasters are terrible examples. Use a from the ground up game like Arkham and Horizon and the disparity is very noticeable. If you still can't see it, then seriously get your eyes checked out ASAP. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891045516] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>fan357 posted...</cite> <quote> using a remastered game to compare systems is worthless. My point from earlier still stands. Arkham Knight and Horizon are far beyond the PS3s capabilities.</quote> All of this. Remasters are terrible examples. Use a from the ground up game like Arkham and Horizon and the disparity is very noticeable. If you still can't see it, then seriously get your eyes checked out ASAP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 5:53:58 PM #60:	fan357 posted... The Arkham Knight/City comparison is proof. Knight looks ten times better. And has a much larger city that you can cover over a breakneck speed with almost no loading times. Go boot Knight on your own tv and then play City and marvel at the difference. Knight is in a league of its own. That's true, but still, that's nothing compared to the difference between Super Mario World and Mario 64, or Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine. Those were quantum leaps. <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891045801] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>fan357 posted...</cite> <quote>The Arkham Knight/City comparison is proof. Knight looks ten times better. And has a much larger city that you can cover over a breakneck speed with almost no loading times. Go boot Knight on your own tv and then play City and marvel at the difference. Knight is in a league of its own.</quote> That's true, but still, that's nothing compared to the difference between Super Mario World and Mario 64, or Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine. Those were quantum leaps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 5:57:53 PM #61:	@SamuelHayden posted... fan357 posted... The Arkham Knight/City comparison is proof. Knight looks ten times better. And has a much larger city that you can cover over a breakneck speed with almost no loading times. Go boot Knight on your own tv and then play City and marvel at the difference. Knight is in a league of its own. That's true, but still, that's nothing compared to the difference between Super Mario World and Mario 64, or Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine. Those were quantum leaps. Read several of the posts in this topic about diminishing returns. The concept is very real and makes logical sense. Point blank, if you want a shift like from PS1 to Ps2, it simply isn't feasible, and won't happen again. That doesn't mean PS4 games look identical to PS3 games. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891045964] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>@SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fan357 posted...</cite> <quote>The Arkham Knight/City comparison is proof. Knight looks ten times better. And has a much larger city that you can cover over a breakneck speed with almost no loading times. Go boot Knight on your own tv and then play City and marvel at the difference. Knight is in a league of its own.</quote> That's true, but still, that's nothing compared to the difference between Super Mario World and Mario 64, or Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine. Those were quantum leaps.</quote> Read several of the posts in this topic about diminishing returns. The concept is very real and makes logical sense. Point blank, if you want a shift like from PS1 to Ps2, it simply isn't feasible, and won't happen again. That doesn't mean PS4 games look identical to PS3 games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/25/17 5:58:15 PM #62:	console gamers saying graphics have peaked rofl <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:891045981] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>console gamers saying graphics have peaked rofl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 11/25/17 5:58:25 PM #63:	King Rial posted... r4X0r posted... Not really, only with the latest generation because, as somebody else already pointed out, graphics have peaked. Before that? PS1: 1995 PS2: 2000 PS3: 2006 XB1: 2001 XB360: 2005 I was speaking solely about the 5 year thing that mostly never happens. Really I was splitting hairs. Semantics, so you can indeed ignore me if you want. But: PS1 came out in 1994. Trust me, I knew enough people holding that over me like they were the shit because they got one for Christmas, imported all the way from Japan. PS2 came out in 2000, and the PS3 in 2006. So for Sony consoles is was 6 years, not 5. Xbox came out in 2001, then the 360 in 2005. 4 years apart. Alright, but fine students of English will notice that I said consoles typically operated in a five year cycle in those days, not that they strictly evolved in hard half decade increments. Four years or six years falls well within that realm, wouldn't you say? Then we all of a sudden have the modern era where consoles have so many redesigns and updates that they might as well be PCs. Something's changed. Consoles have peaked. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891045992] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>King Rial posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>Not really, only with the latest generation because, as somebody else already pointed out, graphics have peaked. Before that? PS1: 1995 PS2: 2000 PS3: 2006 XB1: 2001 XB360: 2005</quote> I was speaking solely about the 5 year thing that mostly never happens. Really I was splitting hairs. Semantics, so you can indeed ignore me if you want. But: PS1 came out in 1994. Trust me, I knew enough people holding that over me like they were the shit because they got one for Christmas, imported all the way from Japan. PS2 came out in 2000, and the PS3 in 2006. So for Sony consoles is was 6 years, not 5. Xbox came out in 2001, then the 360 in 2005. 4 years apart.</quote> Alright, but fine students of English will notice that I said consoles typically operated in a five year cycle in those days, not that they strictly evolved in hard half decade increments. Four years or six years falls well within that realm, wouldn't you say? Then we all of a sudden have the modern era where consoles have so many redesigns and updates that they might as well be PCs. Something's changed. Consoles have peaked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/25/17 5:59:50 PM #64:	southcoast09 posted... Graphics have essentially peaked. Not really. What's peaked is actually how much money a company is willing to spend on Art. Until you can get a game that looks indistinguishable from a live action film there will always be room to improve. Some people managed to get some really nice screenshots though. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:891046070] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>Graphics have essentially peaked. </quote> Not really. What's peaked is actually how much money a company is willing to spend on Art. Until you can get a game that looks indistinguishable from a live action film there will always be room to improve. Some people managed to get some really nice screenshots though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 6:00:51 PM #65:	SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course) <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891046123] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 11/25/17 6:02:27 PM #66:	SamuelHayden posted... SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course) no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was that point of saying that? --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:891046181] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course)</quote> no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was that point of saying that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 11/25/17 6:03:01 PM #67:	XplodnPnguins92 posted... get your eyes checked. --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/yo9VSX9.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/BnnNepT.jpg https://tinyurl.com/Cornboard <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:891046210] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>XplodnPnguins92 posted...</cite> <quote>get your eyes checked.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King Rial 11/25/17 6:03:33 PM #68:	r4X0r posted... Alright, but fine students of English will notice that I said consoles typically operated in a five year cycle in those days, not that they strictly evolved in hard half decade increments. Four years or six years falls well within that realm, wouldn't you say? No. I'd say typically 6 years. The 4 year would be an outlier, only happening once. Again, semantics, splitting hairs, and generally just being annoying, I am. --- I use Google... A lot.... >______> <cite>King Rial posted [p:891046239] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>Alright, but fine students of English will notice that I said consoles typically operated in a five year cycle in those days, not that they strictly evolved in hard half decade increments. Four years or six years falls well within that realm, wouldn't you say?</quote> No. I'd say typically 6 years. The 4 year would be an outlier, only happening once. Again, semantics, splitting hairs, and generally just being annoying, I am.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 6:04:10 PM #69:	@SamuelHayden posted... This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course) 1. no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was the point of saying that? 2. Read several of the posts in this topic about diminishing returns. The concept is very real and makes logical sense. Point blank, if you want a shift like from PS1 to Ps2, it simply isn't feasible, and won't happen again. That doesn't mean PS4 games look identical to PS3 games. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891046269] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>@SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course) </quote> 1. no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was the point of saying that? 2. Read several of the posts in this topic about diminishing returns. The concept is very real and makes logical sense. Point blank, if you want a shift like from PS1 to Ps2, it simply isn't feasible, and won't happen again. That doesn't mean PS4 games look identical to PS3 games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 11/25/17 6:04:50 PM #70:	SamuelHayden posted... I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there. Then you're technologically illiterate, Wolfenstein 2 was built from the ground up for modern consoles and it would take more than a few tweaks to get this to run at even 30fps on last gen systems. The gore effects, dynamic lighting, destruction physics, enemy ai, physically based rendering would all have to be majorly scaled back and that's a large task within itself. --- https://i.imgur.com/SiKIsHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V62ygzP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M0MRS6S.gifv https://i.imgur.com/Lc56ify.jpg <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:891046298] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there.</quote> Then you're technologically illiterate, Wolfenstein 2 was built from the ground up for modern consoles and it would take more than a few tweaks to get this to run at even 30fps on last gen systems. The gore effects, dynamic lighting, destruction physics, enemy ai, physically based rendering would all have to be majorly scaled back and that's a large task within itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 6:06:16 PM #71:	YookaLaylee posted... SamuelHayden posted... SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course) no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was the point of saying that? Yeah that was so dumb of me, I should have compared an open-world, full roaming 3D game on the SNES just to be fair, right? OH WAIT NO YOU CAN'T! The SNES can't do it. Your attempt to be a smartass backfired big time. And just in case you want to keep being cute, pretend I used this game instead for comparison's sake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJxkJ_Ze6qM Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point. <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891046371] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course)</quote> no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was the point of saying that?</quote> Yeah that was so dumb of me, I should have compared an open-world, full roaming 3D game on the SNES just to be fair, right? OH WAIT NO YOU CAN'T! The SNES can't do it. Your attempt to be a smartass backfired big time. And just in case you want to keep being cute, pretend I used this game instead for comparison's sake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJxkJ_Ze6qM Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El Mexicano Texano 11/25/17 6:06:30 PM #72:	SamuelHayden posted... SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course) Lol you should be comparing Galaxy 2 to 3D World or 3D World to Odyssey. If not then compare Gran Turismo 1 to Gran Turismo 3 --- http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/5EMTwE/GFaqs/Houston.jpg <cite>El Mexicano Texano posted [p:891046389] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course)</quote> Lol you should be comparing Galaxy 2 to 3D World or 3D World to Odyssey. If not then compare Gran Turismo 1 to Gran Turismo 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 11/25/17 6:07:01 PM #73:	I don't know why anyone argues graphics on CE CE is full of people who honestly think the PS4 pro is worth it even if you don't have a 4K TV. --- https://i.imgtc.com/WXqrgQ0.jpg <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:891046412] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>I don't know why anyone argues graphics on CE CE is full of people who honestly think the PS4 pro is worth it even if you don't have a 4K TV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 6:08:08 PM #74:	Look guys, I have no interest vested on saying that there are no diminishing returns now. If you want to pretend that the jump from PS3 to PS4 was as big as the Jump from SNES to N64 or NES to SNES, be my guest. <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891046461] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>Look guys, I have no interest vested on saying that there are no diminishing returns now. If you want to pretend that the jump from PS3 to PS4 was as big as the Jump from SNES to N64 or NES to SNES, be my guest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 6:08:26 PM #75:	SamuelHayden posted... which is part of the point. Which proves that YOU are the one still missing the point. You seem to be far more ignorant on this concept than you think you are. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891046483] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>which is part of the point.</quote> Which proves that YOU are the one still missing the point. You seem to be far more ignorant on this concept than you think you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/25/17 6:09:14 PM #76:	Swagnificent119 posted... I don't know why anyone argues graphics on CE CE is full of people who honestly think the PS4 pro is worth it even if you don't have a 4K TV. You do know what downsampling is, right Or framerate --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:891046525] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know why anyone argues graphics on CE CE is full of people who honestly think the PS4 pro is worth it even if you don't have a 4K TV.</quote> You do know what downsampling is, right Or framerate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 11/25/17 6:09:19 PM #77:	runuts27 posted... Stop posting this garbage image that spreads misinformation --- https://i.imgur.com/SiKIsHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V62ygzP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M0MRS6S.gifv https://i.imgur.com/Lc56ify.jpg <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:891046530] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>runuts27 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Stop posting this garbage image that spreads misinformation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 11/25/17 6:09:24 PM #78:	SamuelHayden posted... Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point. Your point is well made and agreed upon with the intelligent portion of this forum. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:891046536] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point.</quote> Your point is well made and agreed upon with the intelligent portion of this forum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 11/25/17 6:09:27 PM #79:	SamuelHayden posted... YookaLaylee posted... SamuelHayden posted... SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course) no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was the point of saying that? Yeah that was so dumb of me, I should have compared an open-world, full roaming 3D game on the SNES just to be fair, right? OH WAIT NO YOU CAN'T! The SNES can't do it. Your attempt to be a smartass backfired big time. And just in case you want to keep being cute, pretend I used this game instead for comparison's sake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJxkJ_Ze6qM Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point. I'm not being a smart ass and you're missing the point entirely. The transition from 2d to 3d was big and nothing is ever going to be as big of a change as that. Its stupid to expect huge graphical improvements on that scale from each new gen. What are you expecting from ps5? Holograms that look completely lifelike? lol --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:891046538] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course)</quote> no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was the point of saying that?</quote> Yeah that was so dumb of me, I should have compared an open-world, full roaming 3D game on the SNES just to be fair, right? OH WAIT NO YOU CAN'T! The SNES can't do it. Your attempt to be a smartass backfired big time. And just in case you want to keep being cute, pretend I used this game instead for comparison's sake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJxkJ_Ze6qM Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point.</quote> I'm not being a smart ass and you're missing the point entirely. The transition from 2d to 3d was big and nothing is ever going to be as big of a change as that. Its stupid to expect huge graphical improvements on that scale from each new gen. What are you expecting from ps5? Holograms that look completely lifelike? lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 6:09:33 PM #80:	SamuelHayden posted... Look guys, I have no interest vested on saying that there are no diminishing returns now. If you want to pretend that the jump from PS3 to PS4 was as big as the Jump from SNES to N64 or NES to SNES, be my guest. Yeah, that's how things work. Not just games or technology, literally most things in the world. Crazy I know, but even making the comparison is dumb considering how pronounced this is in almost everything. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891046542] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>Look guys, I have no interest vested on saying that there are no diminishing returns now. If you want to pretend that the jump from PS3 to PS4 was as big as the Jump from SNES to N64 or NES to SNES, be my guest.</quote> Yeah, that's how things work. Not just games or technology, literally most things in the world. Crazy I know, but even making the comparison is dumb considering how pronounced this is in almost everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 6:11:57 PM #81:	ZombiePelican posted... runuts27 posted... snip Stop posting this garbage image that spreads misinformation snip That's not complete misinformation. Sure that looks better, but multiple the 20k model, then do it again. There is no chance that those two will look demonstrably different from the final one from your image. Also new gens are much more than "pretty models." They encompass lighting, better AI, better draw distance, more items on screen at once, etc. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891046658] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>runuts27 posted...</cite> <quote>snip</quote> Stop posting this garbage image that spreads misinformation snip</quote> That's not complete misinformation. Sure that looks better, but multiple the 20k model, then do it again. There is no chance that those two will look demonstrably different from the final one from your image. Also new gens are much more than "pretty models." They encompass lighting, better AI, better draw distance, more items on screen at once, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 6:13:02 PM #82:	r4X0r posted... SamuelHayden posted... Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point. Your point is well made and agreed upon with the intelligent portion of this forum. thanks man <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891046705] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point.</quote> Your point is well made and agreed upon with the intelligent portion of this forum.</quote> thanks man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagnificent119 11/25/17 6:13:04 PM #83:	DarthAragorn posted... You do know what downsampling is, right Or framerate Boost mode fucking sucks last I heard. --- https://i.imgtc.com/WXqrgQ0.jpg <cite>Swagnificent119 posted [p:891046708] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>You do know what downsampling is, right Or framerate</quote> Boost mode fucking sucks last I heard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 11/25/17 6:14:44 PM #84:	Terra-enforcer posted... ZombiePelican posted... runuts27 posted... snip Stop posting this garbage image that spreads misinformation snip That's not complete misinformation. Sure that looks better, but multiple the 20k model, then do it again. There is no chance that those two will look demonstrably different from the final one from your image. Yes it is complete misinformation as that garbage image implies that no matter how many more triangles you add there will be no noticeable difference, which is again flat out misinformation --- https://i.imgur.com/SiKIsHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V62ygzP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M0MRS6S.gifv https://i.imgur.com/Lc56ify.jpg <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:891046788] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>runuts27 posted...</cite> <quote>snip</quote> Stop posting this garbage image that spreads misinformation snip</quote> That's not complete misinformation. Sure that looks better, but multiple the 20k model, then do it again. There is no chance that those two will look demonstrably different from the final one from your image.</quote> Yes it is complete misinformation as that garbage image implies that no matter how many more triangles you add there will be no noticeable difference, which is again flat out misinformation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 6:15:31 PM #85:	Also people who thinks the PS4 is only marginally better than the PS3 should look at Battlefront 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIe6tLuWVMQ --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891046818] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>Also people who thinks the PS4 is only marginally better than the PS3 should look at Battlefront 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIe6tLuWVMQ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 11/25/17 6:17:09 PM #86:	DarthAragorn posted... Swagnificent119 posted... I don't know why anyone argues graphics on CE CE is full of people who honestly think the PS4 pro is worth it even if you don't have a 4K TV. You do know what downsampling is, right Or framerate Both the Pro and X are shackled by the same shitty CPU in their younger siblings never going to happen, why do you think most devs focus in graphics improvements with the half gen updates instead of higher frame rates? --- https://i.imgur.com/SiKIsHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V62ygzP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M0MRS6S.gifv https://i.imgur.com/Lc56ify.jpg <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:891046904] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know why anyone argues graphics on CE CE is full of people who honestly think the PS4 pro is worth it even if you don't have a 4K TV.</quote> You do know what downsampling is, right Or framerate</quote> Both the Pro and X are shackled by the same shitty CPU in their younger siblings never going to happen, why do you think most devs focus in graphics improvements with the half gen updates instead of higher frame rates?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 6:17:22 PM #87:	ZombiePelican posted... Terra-enforcer posted... ZombiePelican posted... runuts27 posted... snip Stop posting this garbage image that spreads misinformation snip That's not complete misinformation. Sure that looks better, but multiple the 20k model, then do it again. There is no chance that those two will look demonstrably different from the final one from your image. Yes it is complete misinformation as that garbage image implies that no matter how many more triangles you add there will be no noticeable difference, which is again flat out misinformation Sure, but you're still ignoring the rest of my post. For a simplified version of conveying the same idea I stated myself, it makes sense. The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891046915] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>runuts27 posted...</cite> <quote>snip</quote> Stop posting this garbage image that spreads misinformation snip</quote> That's not complete misinformation. Sure that looks better, but multiple the 20k model, then do it again. There is no chance that those two will look demonstrably different from the final one from your image.</quote> Yes it is complete misinformation as that garbage image implies that no matter how many more triangles you add there will be no noticeable difference, which is again flat out misinformation</quote> Sure, but you're still ignoring the rest of my post. For a simplified version of conveying the same idea I stated myself, it makes sense. The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/25/17 6:18:10 PM #88:	Swagnificent119 posted... DarthAragorn posted... You do know what downsampling is, right Or framerate Boost mode fucking sucks last I heard. Helps a lot with Bloodborne at least. Also Boost Mode only applies to games that don't have native or patched Pro support --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:891046957] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Swagnificent119 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>You do know what downsampling is, right Or framerate</quote> Boost mode fucking sucks last I heard.</quote> Helps a lot with Bloodborne at least. Also Boost Mode only applies to games that don't have native or patched Pro support</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 11/25/17 6:18:54 PM #89:	Terra-enforcer posted... The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea. ITP: It's easier to push a narrative when the facts are hidden --- https://i.imgur.com/SiKIsHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V62ygzP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M0MRS6S.gifv https://i.imgur.com/Lc56ify.jpg <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:891046998] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea.</quote> ITP: It's easier to push a narrative when the facts are hidden</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 6:20:49 PM #90:	YookaLaylee posted... SamuelHayden posted... YookaLaylee posted... SamuelHayden posted... SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course) no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was the point of saying that? Yeah that was so dumb of me, I should have compared an open-world, full roaming 3D game on the SNES just to be fair, right? OH WAIT NO YOU CAN'T! The SNES can't do it. Your attempt to be a smartass backfired big time. And just in case you want to keep being cute, pretend I used this game instead for comparison's sake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJxkJ_Ze6qM Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point. I'm not being a smart ass and you're missing the point entirely. The transition from 2d to 3d was big and nothing is ever going to be as big of a change as that. Its stupid to expect huge graphical improvements on that scale from each new gen. What are you expecting from ps5? Holograms that look completely lifelike? lol That is part of the 'issue' too though. The SNES couldn't do 3D. But it could do rudimentary, creepy looking 3D with the FX Chip. We're comparing a 16 bit processor running at 3.58 MHZ to the same setup plus a 10 mhz co processor (the FX). Substitute that 3.58 mhz + 10mhz co processor for a 32 bit processor that's 3X faster (PS1, running at 33mhz) and suddenly ridge racer is possible, and tekken, tohshinden, tomb raider, quake and system shock. Yet the PS4 is roughly 10X stronger than the PS3 (source: http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/sony-ps4-vs-ps3-2914323 ) and it has memory that the PS3 can't touch and... there difference is not such as big as 2D vs 3D. If the PS5 were 20X stronger than the PS4, we could still not have such a revolutionary change as 2D to 3D. This is the very reason you need the PS4 NEO for VR. <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891047091] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YookaLaylee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>SNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inO9YBhRx-Y N64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE61E-K5gi8 This difference is greater than any comparable PS3 to PS4 game out there (comparables games/genres, of course)</quote> no shit, there's a big difference between 2d and 3d lol. what was the point of saying that?</quote> Yeah that was so dumb of me, I should have compared an open-world, full roaming 3D game on the SNES just to be fair, right? OH WAIT NO YOU CAN'T! The SNES can't do it. Your attempt to be a smartass backfired big time. And just in case you want to keep being cute, pretend I used this game instead for comparison's sake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJxkJ_Ze6qM Unless you want to keep trying to be a smartass and tell me 'that is not a 3D platformer', I already explained there's no such a thing in the SNES because it can't be done, which is part of the point.</quote> I'm not being a smart ass and you're missing the point entirely. The transition from 2d to 3d was big and nothing is ever going to be as big of a change as that. Its stupid to expect huge graphical improvements on that scale from each new gen. What are you expecting from ps5? Holograms that look completely lifelike? lol</quote> That is part of the 'issue' too though. The SNES couldn't do 3D. But it could do rudimentary, creepy looking 3D with the FX Chip. We're comparing a 16 bit processor running at 3.58 MHZ to the same setup plus a 10 mhz co processor (the FX). Substitute that 3.58 mhz + 10mhz co processor for a 32 bit processor that's 3X faster (PS1, running at 33mhz) and suddenly ridge racer is possible, and tekken, tohshinden, tomb raider, quake and system shock. Yet the PS4 is roughly 10X stronger than the PS3 (source: http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/sony-ps4-vs-ps3-2914323 ) and it has memory that the PS3 can't touch and... there difference is not such as big as 2D vs 3D. If the PS5 were 20X stronger than the PS4, we could still not have such a revolutionary change as 2D to 3D. This is the very reason you need the PS4 NEO for VR.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 6:20:54 PM #91:	ZombiePelican posted... Terra-enforcer posted... The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea. ITP: It's easier to push a narrative when the facts are hidden If you're dumb as a rock and illiterate, sure I guess you could take that from my post. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891047097] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea.</quote> ITP: It's easier to push a narrative when the facts are hidden</quote> If you're dumb as a rock and illiterate, sure I guess you could take that from my post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LIsJustice 11/25/17 6:22:21 PM #92:	Frame rate is just as important. TLOU can only do 30 FPS on PS3 while on PS4 it can do 69. --- Bethesda is the best western publisher this gen by far. <cite>LIsJustice posted [p:891047162] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>Frame rate is just as important. TLOU can only do 30 FPS on PS3 while on PS4 it can do 69.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bandit_Keith 11/25/17 6:23:55 PM #93:	Terra-enforcer posted... If you're dumb as a rock and illiterate, sure I guess you could take that from my post. Well, you are talking to Zombie, so... --- http://i.imgur.com/nq0Fn6a.jpg <cite>Bandit_Keith posted [p:891047249] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>If you're dumb as a rock and illiterate, sure I guess you could take that from my post.</quote> Well, you are talking to Zombie, so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 6:24:52 PM #94:	ZombiePelican posted... SamuelHayden posted... I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there. Then you're technologically illiterate, Wolfenstein 2 was built from the ground up for modern consoles and it would take more than a few tweaks to get this to run at even 30fps on last gen systems. The gore effects, dynamic lighting, destruction physics, enemy ai, physically based rendering would all have to be majorly scaled back and that's a large task within itself. You're a joke. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play a game like Mario 64 in the SNES. It's probably impossible to play a game like Rogue Squadron on the N64. Wolfenstein 2 has nicer effects (gore, lighting, etc) and some CPU intensive tasks (ai, destruction physics) but truth is, none of that is essential to the game, and none of that will wow people as much as the difference between a 2D and 3D game. We're not talking technical prowess here, we're talking wow factor. There are diminishing returns. No need to get personal. <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891047297] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there.</quote> Then you're technologically illiterate, Wolfenstein 2 was built from the ground up for modern consoles and it would take more than a few tweaks to get this to run at even 30fps on last gen systems. The gore effects, dynamic lighting, destruction physics, enemy ai, physically based rendering would all have to be majorly scaled back and that's a large task within itself.</quote> You're a joke. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play a game like Mario 64 in the SNES. It's probably impossible to play a game like Rogue Squadron on the N64. Wolfenstein 2 has nicer effects (gore, lighting, etc) and some CPU intensive tasks (ai, destruction physics) but truth is, none of that is essential to the game, and none of that will wow people as much as the difference between a 2D and 3D game. We're not talking technical prowess here, we're talking wow factor. There are diminishing returns. No need to get personal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 11/25/17 6:25:08 PM #95:	50Blessings posted... fan357 posted... Those pictures are worthless. Let's see them in motion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a99dEkiuJjo k Much dark, like wow --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:891047308] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fan357 posted...</cite> <quote>Those pictures are worthless. Let's see them in motion.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a99dEkiuJjo k</quote> Much dark, like wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilJoe457 11/25/17 6:47:54 PM #96:	Idk. Arkham Knight looks ridiculously ridiculously good on my high end PC. But I don't think anyone disagrees that the jump from nes to n64 and then PS1 to PS2 are probably the biggest jumps. There's gonna be a point where shit slows down. But to say there's no difference now and it's just PS3 graphics still is silly. --- That's the wall brother! <cite>lilJoe457 posted [p:891048464] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote>Idk. Arkham Knight looks ridiculously ridiculously good on my high end PC. But I don't think anyone disagrees that the jump from nes to n64 and then PS1 to PS2 are probably the biggest jumps. There's gonna be a point where shit slows down. But to say there's no difference now and it's just PS3 graphics still is silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 11/25/17 7:15:18 PM #97:	Terra-enforcer posted... ZombiePelican posted... Terra-enforcer posted... The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea. ITP: It's easier to push a narrative when the facts are hidden If you're dumb as a rock and illiterate, sure I guess you could take that from my post. So now all you can do is flame me after your shit argument gets called out? Get out of here lol --- https://i.imgur.com/SiKIsHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V62ygzP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M0MRS6S.gifv https://i.imgur.com/Lc56ify.jpg <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:891049798] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea.</quote> ITP: It's easier to push a narrative when the facts are hidden</quote> If you're dumb as a rock and illiterate, sure I guess you could take that from my post.</quote> So now all you can do is flame me after your shit argument gets called out? Get out of here lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 11/25/17 7:36:37 PM #98:	SamuelHayden posted... ZombiePelican posted... SamuelHayden posted... I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there. Then you're technologically illiterate, Wolfenstein 2 was built from the ground up for modern consoles and it would take more than a few tweaks to get this to run at even 30fps on last gen systems. The gore effects, dynamic lighting, destruction physics, enemy ai, physically based rendering would all have to be majorly scaled back and that's a large task within itself. You're a joke. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play a game like Mario 64 in the SNES. It's probably impossible to play a game like Rogue Squadron on the N64. Wolfenstein 2 has nicer effects (gore, lighting, etc) and some CPU intensive tasks (ai, destruction physics) but truth is, none of that is essential to the game, and none of that will wow people as much as the difference between a 2D and 3D game. We're not talking technical prowess here, we're talking wow factor. There are diminishing returns. No need to get personal. Ummm Rogue Squadron was on the N64. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:891050872] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there.</quote> Then you're technologically illiterate, Wolfenstein 2 was built from the ground up for modern consoles and it would take more than a few tweaks to get this to run at even 30fps on last gen systems. The gore effects, dynamic lighting, destruction physics, enemy ai, physically based rendering would all have to be majorly scaled back and that's a large task within itself.</quote> You're a joke. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play a game like Mario 64 in the SNES. It's probably impossible to play a game like Rogue Squadron on the N64. Wolfenstein 2 has nicer effects (gore, lighting, etc) and some CPU intensive tasks (ai, destruction physics) but truth is, none of that is essential to the game, and none of that will wow people as much as the difference between a 2D and 3D game. We're not talking technical prowess here, we're talking wow factor. There are diminishing returns. No need to get personal.</quote> Ummm Rogue Squadron was on the N64.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 11/25/17 8:13:27 PM #99:	@ZombiePelican posted... Terra-enforcer posted... ZombiePelican posted... Terra-enforcer posted... The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea. ITP: It's easier to push a narrative when the facts are hidden If you're dumb as a rock and illiterate, sure I guess you could take that from my post. So now all you can do is flame me after your shit argument gets called out? Get out of here lol I said if so if you mean that to verify that is the case, then I probably am wasting my time (and according to some other users, it probably is indeed true, but I never said it definitively). Otherwise you still haven't done shit to say how my argument is even bad, so the burden of proof lies with you. Also the irony of crying like a child about flaming then you doing that exact same thing is pretty funny. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:891052728] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>@ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>The polygon count is technically wrong, but it's an easier way to convey the diminishing returns simply to laymans without showing ten different images that would provoke the exact same idea.</quote> ITP: It's easier to push a narrative when the facts are hidden</quote> If you're dumb as a rock and illiterate, sure I guess you could take that from my post.</quote> So now all you can do is flame me after your shit argument gets called out? Get out of here lol</quote> I said if so if you mean that to verify that is the case, then I probably am wasting my time (and according to some other users, it probably is indeed true, but I never said it definitively). Otherwise you still haven't done shit to say how my argument is even bad, so the burden of proof lies with you. Also the irony of crying like a child about flaming then you doing that exact same thing is pretty funny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamuelHayden 11/25/17 8:44:49 PM #100:	Monolith1676 posted... SamuelHayden posted... ZombiePelican posted... SamuelHayden posted... I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there. Then you're technologically illiterate, Wolfenstein 2 was built from the ground up for modern consoles and it would take more than a few tweaks to get this to run at even 30fps on last gen systems. The gore effects, dynamic lighting, destruction physics, enemy ai, physically based rendering would all have to be majorly scaled back and that's a large task within itself. You're a joke. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play a game like Mario 64 in the SNES. It's probably impossible to play a game like Rogue Squadron on the N64. Wolfenstein 2 has nicer effects (gore, lighting, etc) and some CPU intensive tasks (ai, destruction physics) but truth is, none of that is essential to the game, and none of that will wow people as much as the difference between a 2D and 3D game. We're not talking technical prowess here, we're talking wow factor. There are diminishing returns. No need to get personal. Ummm Rogue Squadron was on the N64. Yeah you're right I got the wrong name, I meant Star Wars: Rogue Squadron II - Rogue Leader <cite>SamuelHayden posted [p:891054261] in PS4 graphi... [t:76030047]...</cite> <quote><cite>Monolith1676 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SamuelHayden posted...</cite> <quote>I truly don't see why Wolfenstein 2 couldn't be a PS3 game with some graphical downgrades here and there.</quote> Then you're technologically illiterate, Wolfenstein 2 was built from the ground up for modern consoles and it would take more than a few tweaks to get this to run at even 30fps on last gen systems. The gore effects, dynamic lighting, destruction physics, enemy ai, physically based rendering would all have to be majorly scaled back and that's a large task within itself.</quote> You're a joke. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play a game like Mario 64 in the SNES. It's probably impossible to play a game like Rogue Squadron on the N64. Wolfenstein 2 has nicer effects (gore, lighting, etc) and some CPU intensive tasks (ai, destruction physics) but truth is, none of that is essential to the game, and none of that will wow people as much as the difference between a 2D and 3D game. We're not talking technical prowess here, we're talking wow factor. There are diminishing returns. No need to get personal.</quote> Ummm Rogue Squadron was on the N64.</quote> Yeah you're right I got the wrong name, I meant Star Wars: Rogue Squadron II - Rogue Leader</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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