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VectorChaos 11/21/17 3:04:11 PM #52:	Fam_Fam posted... thats when they start having loot boxes. pay $10 to buy a lootbox that will give you full access to 10 random sites! You shut the fuck up before you give them ideas --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:890815323] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>thats when they start having loot boxes. pay $10 to buy a lootbox that will give you full access to 10 random sites!</quote> You shut the fuck up before you give them ideas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 11/21/17 3:05:21 PM #53:	First why are people making this a right vs left issue? From what I've seen it's an old and easily manipulated vs people that use the internet issue. Anyways did you guys here about Comcast New movie service? It's like a shitty Netflix with ads but it only costs 5 a month. I probably would have stated with Netflix but Comcast has throttled the shit out of Netflix so it buffers every 20 seconds. Anyone who wants to repeal net neutrality is dulusional and I hope they're phone company starts charging them extra to call their mom. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:890815388] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>First why are people making this a right vs left issue? From what I've seen it's an old and easily manipulated vs people that use the internet issue. Anyways did you guys here about Comcast New movie service? It's like a shitty Netflix with ads but it only costs 5 a month. I probably would have stated with Netflix but Comcast has throttled the shit out of Netflix so it buffers every 20 seconds. Anyone who wants to repeal net neutrality is dulusional and I hope they're phone company starts charging them extra to call their mom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 11/21/17 3:05:31 PM #54:	Howl posted... Get off the internet then and live your life then. This is not the end of the world like people are trying to make it out to be. This is the point you should've started with, before repeatedly moving those goalposts. It's not a great one, but at least it's an easier point to defend than those other disasters. Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... First why are people making this a right vs left issue? Who is making it a right vs left issue in this topic? --- Geraldo Riviera's facial hair is a hate crime 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:890815397] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Get off the internet then and live your life then. This is not the end of the world like people are trying to make it out to be.</quote> This is the point you should've started with, before repeatedly moving those goalposts. It's not a great one, but at least it's an easier point to defend than those other disasters. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>First why are people making this a right vs left issue?</quote> Who is making it a right vs left issue in this topic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezCaughtIt 11/21/17 3:05:53 PM #55:	So graphics like that aren't saying that's what will happen. It's just saying there's nothing stopping that from ever happening. I would hope ISPs wouldn't be dumb enough to ever try that. But yeah I'm a huge supporter of net neutrality --- *The user formally known as freakofnature30* ROCK FLAAAAG AND EAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLE <cite>DezCaughtIt posted [p:890815424] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>So graphics like that aren't saying that's what will happen. It's just saying there's nothing stopping that from ever happening. I would hope ISPs wouldn't be dumb enough to ever try that. But yeah I'm a huge supporter of net neutrality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 11/21/17 3:06:12 PM #56:	Muffinz0rz posted... LOL Your response to a massive, industry-changing regulation is to tell people to "get a life?" Jesus, man This will only really negatively affect your life if your entire is spent online. Otherwise it will be a minor nuisance to the vast majority of people in the country because their internet bill might go up 20$ a month. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:890815440] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>LOL Your response to a massive, industry-changing regulation is to tell people to "get a life?" Jesus, man</quote> This will only really negatively affect your life if your entire is spent online. Otherwise it will be a minor nuisance to the vast majority of people in the country because their internet bill might go up 20$ a month.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 11/21/17 3:06:17 PM #57:	Trumps America --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:890815444] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>Trumps America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bandit_Keith 11/21/17 3:06:57 PM #58:	The Admiral posted... What's idealistic here? A major disruption to the current model is bad for business. Cable companies are happy to have you mindlessly send them your $50-70/month for Internet and never have you question your purchase choices. The opportunity here is for them to charge more to people who cost them more, which is the handful of people who consume excessive amounts of bandwidth. You're being idealistic in suggesting that the ISPs want to be able to charge you less. That's demonstrably false. They already have the opportunity to do this. They aren't going to lose out on profits for any reason. That's never how it shakes out for the corporations. They are in this to drive profits, and rightly so. But that comes at a cost to us. And they are never looking to save you money. You claim they can charge the people that use more bandwidth more money. They literally already do this with caps. They throttle during peak hours, and put data caps on customers. And when you go over the cap they charge by the GB. It is most certainly being idealistic and downright naive to think they are doing this to save you money. --- http://i.imgur.com/nq0Fn6a.jpg <cite>Bandit_Keith posted [p:890815482] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What's idealistic here? A major disruption to the current model is bad for business. Cable companies are happy to have you mindlessly send them your $50-70/month for Internet and never have you question your purchase choices. The opportunity here is for them to charge more to people who cost them more, which is the handful of people who consume excessive amounts of bandwidth.</quote> You're being idealistic in suggesting that the ISPs want to be able to charge you less. That's demonstrably false. They already have the opportunity to do this. They aren't going to lose out on profits for any reason. That's never how it shakes out for the corporations. They are in this to drive profits, and rightly so. But that comes at a cost to us. And they are never looking to save you money. You claim they can charge the people that use more bandwidth more money. They literally already do this with caps. They throttle during peak hours, and put data caps on customers. And when you go over the cap they charge by the GB. It is most certainly being idealistic and downright naive to think they are doing this to save you money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 11/21/17 3:07:10 PM #59:	Howl posted... Muffinz0rz posted... 27_Sandman_40 posted... Lol @ paying for Netflix Lol @ Mark Zuckerberg charging for Facebook Should've inb4'd seeing as it's not hard for people to miss the point The point is, it's not about Facebook or Netflix specifically. It's about whatever sites that are your own versions of FB/Netflix (like say you use Reddit and Hulu as much as someone uses Facebook and Netflix). The point is, replace Facebook with Reddit (or, again, whatever you personally use most) and pretend you're getting charged an extra $9/mo for that site specifically. Get off the internet then and live your life then. This is not the end of the world like people are trying to make it out to be. It's also not a positive like a bunch of people are trying to make it out to be. Only an idiot would use your reasoning for your position. Edit: as for the other post I'm glad you don't care about increasing rates for NO REASON but most of us do. Not surprising since you support a party that pisses away money on frivolous or downright idiotic things. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:890815496] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>27_Sandman_40 posted...</cite> <quote> Lol @ paying for Netflix Lol @ Mark Zuckerberg charging for Facebook</quote> Should've inb4'd seeing as it's not hard for people to miss the point The point is, it's not about Facebook or Netflix specifically. It's about whatever sites that are your own versions of FB/Netflix (like say you use Reddit and Hulu as much as someone uses Facebook and Netflix). The point is, replace Facebook with Reddit (or, again, whatever you personally use most) and pretend you're getting charged an extra $9/mo for that site specifically.</quote> Get off the internet then and live your life then. This is not the end of the world like people are trying to make it out to be.</quote> It's also not a positive like a bunch of people are trying to make it out to be. Only an idiot would use your reasoning for your position. Edit: as for the other post I'm glad you don't care about increasing rates for NO REASON but most of us do. Not surprising since you support a party that pisses away money on frivolous or downright idiotic things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 11/21/17 3:07:45 PM #60:	"Try netflix, only on AT&T digital preferred tier and above"* Extra fees may be applied --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:890815533] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>"Try netflix, only on AT&T digital preferred tier and above"* Extra fees may be applied</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 11/21/17 3:08:41 PM #61:	The Admiral posted... The opportunity here is for them to charge more to people who cost them more, which is the handful of people who consume excessive amounts of bandwidth What's stopping them from doing this now? For example bandwidth caps like they already have? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:890815594] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>The opportunity here is for them to charge more to people who cost them more, which is the handful of people who consume excessive amounts of bandwidth</quote> What's stopping them from doing this now? For example bandwidth caps like they already have?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 11/21/17 3:09:11 PM #62:	Only admiral would shit stupid on net neutrality --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:890815629] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>Only admiral would shit stupid on net neutrality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 11/21/17 3:10:33 PM #63:	Howl posted... Muffinz0rz posted... LOL Your response to a massive, industry-changing regulation is to tell people to "get a life?" Jesus, man This will only really negatively affect your life if your entire is spent online. Otherwise it will be a minor nuisance to the vast majority of people in the country because their internet bill might go up 20$ a month. Just a "minor nuisance to the vast majority?" Careful. It sounds like you totally support the "vast majority" taking this deregulation to task for the "minor" inconvenience. I'm sure you don't want people confusing you for a pro consumer-rights advocate. --- Geraldo Riviera's facial hair is a hate crime 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:890815713] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>LOL Your response to a massive, industry-changing regulation is to tell people to "get a life?" Jesus, man</quote> This will only really negatively affect your life if your entire is spent online. Otherwise it will be a minor nuisance to the vast majority of people in the country because their internet bill might go up 20$ a month.</quote> Just a "minor nuisance to the vast majority?" Careful. It sounds like you totally support the "vast majority" taking this deregulation to task for the "minor" inconvenience. I'm sure you don't want people confusing you for a pro consumer-rights advocate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:11:15 PM #64:	Howl posted... Muffinz0rz posted... LOL Your response to a massive, industry-changing regulation is to tell people to "get a life?" Jesus, man This will only really negatively affect your life if your entire is spent online. Otherwise it will be a minor nuisance to the vast majority of people in the country because their internet bill might go up 20$ a month. Imagine being so content to bend over and take it for no good reason Your parents must still be paying your bills I guess You know what? Even if a majority of my time isn't spent online, my price goes up regardless. @hollow_shrine I'm thinking this guy is a troll tbh --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890815754] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>LOL Your response to a massive, industry-changing regulation is to tell people to "get a life?" Jesus, man</quote> This will only really negatively affect your life if your entire is spent online. Otherwise it will be a minor nuisance to the vast majority of people in the country because their internet bill might go up 20$ a month.</quote> Imagine being so content to bend over and take it for no good reason Your parents must still be paying your bills I guess You know what? Even if a majority of my time isn't spent online, my price goes up regardless. @hollow_shrine I'm thinking this guy is a troll tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 11/21/17 3:11:52 PM #65:	Zeeak4444 posted... It's also not a positive like a bunch of people are trying to make it out to be. Only an idiot would use your reasoning for your position. I'm not trying to defend it as if it's a good thing. Just that it's not a world ending event like people here are trying to make it out to be. It's like I said to the vast majority of people in the country it will be nothing more than a minor nuisance when their internet bill goes up like 20 dollars a month. Even if that's the case it will still be a far better deal than what cable is when it's like 120+ dollars a month for a vast majority of channels you never watch. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:890815794] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>It's also not a positive like a bunch of people are trying to make it out to be. Only an idiot would use your reasoning for your position.</quote> I'm not trying to defend it as if it's a good thing. Just that it's not a world ending event like people here are trying to make it out to be. It's like I said to the vast majority of people in the country it will be nothing more than a minor nuisance when their internet bill goes up like 20 dollars a month. Even if that's the case it will still be a far better deal than what cable is when it's like 120+ dollars a month for a vast majority of channels you never watch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 11/21/17 3:12:10 PM #66:	This is impressive. We all knew that the usual suspects would try to defend this, but they didn't even attempt to come up with any actual arguments. You'd think they would have prepared a little better. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:890815810] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>This is impressive. We all knew that the usual suspects would try to defend this, but they didn't even attempt to come up with any actual arguments. You'd think they would have prepared a little better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 11/21/17 3:12:29 PM #67:	How will this work with internet privacy? Like, will this change companies' ability to do as they want with your internet browsing habits (i.e. search histories, spending habits). I know there is already some liberties with that now. But would the end of net neutrality impact this in any way? --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:890815833] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>How will this work with internet privacy? Like, will this change companies' ability to do as they want with your internet browsing habits (i.e. search histories, spending habits). I know there is already some liberties with that now. But would the end of net neutrality impact this in any way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:13:05 PM #68:	Howl posted... Zeeak4444 posted... It's also not a positive like a bunch of people are trying to make it out to be. Only an idiot would use your reasoning for your position. I'm not trying to defend it as if it's a good thing. Just that it's not a world ending event like people here are trying to make it out to be. It's like I said to the vast majority of people in the country it will be nothing more than a minor nuisance when their internet bill goes up like 20 dollars a month. Even if that's the case it will still be a far better deal than what cable is when it's like 120+ dollars a month for a vast majority of channels you never watch. Why are you comparing this to cable? No sane person is still defending those ridiculous rates for so few channels (the contents of which can easily be found online and on-demand for 10% the rate) --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890815879] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>It's also not a positive like a bunch of people are trying to make it out to be. Only an idiot would use your reasoning for your position.</quote> I'm not trying to defend it as if it's a good thing. Just that it's not a world ending event like people here are trying to make it out to be. It's like I said to the vast majority of people in the country it will be nothing more than a minor nuisance when their internet bill goes up like 20 dollars a month. Even if that's the case it will still be a far better deal than what cable is when it's like 120+ dollars a month for a vast majority of channels you never watch.</quote> Why are you comparing this to cable? No sane person is still defending those ridiculous rates for so few channels (the contents of which can easily be found online and on-demand for 10% the rate)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 11/21/17 3:17:32 PM #70:	Muffinz0rz posted... Imagine being so content to bend over and take it for no good reason Your parents must still be paying your bills I guess It's like I said I'm not trying to defend it as if it's a good thing. If anything it sucks, but it's not at all a doomsday scenario. It's just not something to even be upset about for more than a few minutes. Like oh crap they're raising my rent 20$ after my lease is up. Yeah it sucks but it's not gonna change your life in any tangible way to pay with that extra 20$ a month. And if you can't have that attitude about it then you don't fucking need it. There's almost zero actual value that's added to your life today from having home internet access. Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:890816129] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine being so content to bend over and take it for no good reason Your parents must still be paying your bills I guess</quote> It's like I said I'm not trying to defend it as if it's a good thing. If anything it sucks, but it's not at all a doomsday scenario. It's just not something to even be upset about for more than a few minutes. Like oh crap they're raising my rent 20$ after my lease is up. Yeah it sucks but it's not gonna change your life in any tangible way to pay with that extra 20$ a month. And if you can't have that attitude about it then you don't fucking need it. There's almost zero actual value that's added to your life today from having home internet access. Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryangrad 11/21/17 3:18:23 PM #71:	Howl posted... Just that it's not a world ending event like people here are trying to make it out to be Literally no one here has done that. You are mentally manufacturing a fictitious "opponent" then attacking them for views that you gave them. No one mentioned or even hinted at a life crushing scenario. Can you understand why people don't want to pay more money for the exact same service simply because corporations lobbied for more control of the government? --- http://i.imgur.com/v3SzL0d.gif http://i.imgur.com/n8MtRqd.jpg <cite>Ryangrad posted [p:890816172] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Just that it's not a world ending event like people here are trying to make it out to be</quote> Literally no one here has done that. You are mentally manufacturing a fictitious "opponent" then attacking them for views that you gave them. No one mentioned or even hinted at a life crushing scenario. Can you understand why people don't want to pay more money for the exact same service simply because corporations lobbied for more control of the government?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 11/21/17 3:19:11 PM #72:	Bullet_Wing posted... These same people who consider it a minor nuisance to pay an ISP 20 bucks more a month due to sheer greed whine to no end when they have to pay the same amount more in taxes. Kind of a silly situation. That's a fundamentally different thing, you have to pay a tax, you don't have to pay for internet. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:890816216] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>These same people who consider it a minor nuisance to pay an ISP 20 bucks more a month due to sheer greed whine to no end when they have to pay the same amount more in taxes. Kind of a silly situation.</quote> That's a fundamentally different thing, you have to pay a tax, you don't have to pay for internet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 11/21/17 3:20:13 PM #73:	Ryangrad posted... Howl posted... Just that it's not a world ending event like people here are trying to make it out to be Literally no one here has done that. You are mentally manufacturing a fictitious "opponent" then attacking them for views that you gave them. No one mentioned or even hinted at a life crushing scenario. Can you understand why people don't want to pay more money for the exact same service simply because corporations lobbied for more control of the government? Yes I understand that and have even stated that it sucks. I just don't think it's that big of a deal really. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:890816261] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryangrad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Just that it's not a world ending event like people here are trying to make it out to be</quote> Literally no one here has done that. You are mentally manufacturing a fictitious "opponent" then attacking them for views that you gave them. No one mentioned or even hinted at a life crushing scenario. Can you understand why people don't want to pay more money for the exact same service simply because corporations lobbied for more control of the government?</quote> Yes I understand that and have even stated that it sucks. I just don't think it's that big of a deal really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:25:21 PM #74:	Howl posted... Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country. And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890816533] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country.</quote> And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 11/21/17 3:26:37 PM #75:	Muffinz0rz posted... Howl posted... Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country. And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain? Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:890816613] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country.</quote> And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain?</quote> Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 11/21/17 3:28:59 PM #76:	Howl posted... Bullet_Wing posted... These same people who consider it a minor nuisance to pay an ISP 20 bucks more a month due to sheer greed whine to no end when they have to pay the same amount more in taxes. Kind of a silly situation. That's a fundamentally different thing, you have to pay a tax, you don't have to pay for internet. Lol, it should be treated as a utility. It's not a luxury in today's society. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:890816776] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>These same people who consider it a minor nuisance to pay an ISP 20 bucks more a month due to sheer greed whine to no end when they have to pay the same amount more in taxes. Kind of a silly situation.</quote> That's a fundamentally different thing, you have to pay a tax, you don't have to pay for internet.</quote> Lol, it should be treated as a utility. It's not a luxury in today's society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 11/21/17 3:29:40 PM #77:	Howl posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Howl posted... Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country. And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain? Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night. Yet we're implementing the first steps to have that eventually be the case in one form or another and here you are still telling us it's "no big deal". --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:890816833] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country.</quote> And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain?</quote> Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night.</quote> Yet we're implementing the first steps to have that eventually be the case in one form or another and here you are still telling us it's "no big deal".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 11/21/17 3:31:31 PM #78:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Lol, it should be treated as a utility. It's not a luxury in today's society. The actual need that people have to use the internet for is extremely minor. Things like registering your kids for school or for health insurance etc. All that stuff can easily be done for free. There is almost zero actual need to have daily access to it at home. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:890816959] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, it should be treated as a utility. It's not a luxury in today's society.</quote> The actual need that people have to use the internet for is extremely minor. Things like registering your kids for school or for health insurance etc. All that stuff can easily be done for free. There is almost zero actual need to have daily access to it at home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:31:34 PM #79:	Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Howl posted... Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country. And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain? Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night. Yet we're implementing the first steps to have that eventually be the case in one form or another and here you are still telling us it's "no big deal". I think it's in our best interest to cease engaging with Howl. He's obviously just trolling and/or works for a big ISP. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890816962] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country.</quote> And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain?</quote> Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night.</quote> Yet we're implementing the first steps to have that eventually be the case in one form or another and here you are still telling us it's "no big deal".</quote> I think it's in our best interest to cease engaging with Howl. He's obviously just trolling and/or works for a big ISP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryangrad 11/21/17 3:32:02 PM #80:	Howl posted... Yes I understand that and have even stated that it sucks. I just don't think it's that big of a deal really. And others do. After that point, you're borderline trolling, really. Because it makes perfect sense why some don't want to pay more and give up more of their control and information just because of corporate greed. Attacking those that resist makes no sense. At least you understand that you created a strawman to attack. No one here said the sky is falling. Just that this isn't a good thing at all, and it won't benefit us, as these corporate pushes to alter the law never do. --- http://i.imgur.com/v3SzL0d.gif http://i.imgur.com/n8MtRqd.jpg <cite>Ryangrad posted [p:890816998] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Yes I understand that and have even stated that it sucks. I just don't think it's that big of a deal really.</quote> And others do. After that point, you're borderline trolling, really. Because it makes perfect sense why some don't want to pay more and give up more of their control and information just because of corporate greed. Attacking those that resist makes no sense. At least you understand that you created a strawman to attack. No one here said the sky is falling. Just that this isn't a good thing at all, and it won't benefit us, as these corporate pushes to alter the law never do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 11/21/17 3:33:23 PM #81:	Muffinz0rz posted... I think it's in our best interest to cease engaging with Howl. He's obviously just trolling and/or works for a big ISP. Neither of those things are true. I honestly believe this doesn't matter and no one will be talking about this at all a year from now after everyone has realized that it didn't affect their lives in any meaningful way. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Howl posted [p:890817080] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote> I think it's in our best interest to cease engaging with Howl. He's obviously just trolling and/or works for a big ISP.</quote> Neither of those things are true. I honestly believe this doesn't matter and no one will be talking about this at all a year from now after everyone has realized that it didn't affect their lives in any meaningful way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/21/17 3:33:35 PM #82:	I'm not surprised at the specific users defending this shit. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:890817094] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>I'm not surprised at the specific users defending this shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:34:15 PM #83:	Solar_Crimson posted... I'm not surprised at the specific users defending this shit. Can you provide some clarification on if Howl is a known troll or not? His posts ITT lead me to believe so. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890817132] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not surprised at the specific users defending this shit.</quote> Can you provide some clarification on if Howl is a known troll or not? His posts ITT lead me to believe so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 11/21/17 3:34:15 PM #84:	Muffinz0rz posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Howl posted... Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country. And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain? Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night. Yet we're implementing the first steps to have that eventually be the case in one form or another and here you are still telling us it's "no big deal". I think it's in our best interest to cease engaging with Howl. He's obviously just trolling and/or works for a big ISP. Fair enough. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:890817133] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country.</quote> And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain?</quote> Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night.</quote> Yet we're implementing the first steps to have that eventually be the case in one form or another and here you are still telling us it's "no big deal".</quote> I think it's in our best interest to cease engaging with Howl. He's obviously just trolling and/or works for a big ISP.</quote> Fair enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 11/21/17 3:35:09 PM #85:	Muffinz0rz posted... Solar_Crimson posted... I'm not surprised at the specific users defending this shit. Can you provide some clarification on if Howl is a known troll or not? His posts ITT lead me to believe so. Not a troll but a die hard right. He fluctuates between good discussion and whatever this shit is. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:890817187] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not surprised at the specific users defending this shit.</quote> Can you provide some clarification on if Howl is a known troll or not? His posts ITT lead me to believe so.</quote> Not a troll but a die hard right. He fluctuates between good discussion and whatever this shit is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:35:40 PM #86:	Zeeak4444 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Howl posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Howl posted... Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country. And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain? Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night. Yet we're implementing the first steps to have that eventually be the case in one form or another and here you are still telling us it's "no big deal". I think it's in our best interest to cease engaging with Howl. He's obviously just trolling and/or works for a big ISP. Fair enough. I am at work though, so if I get bored I might end up biting again. It's just so hard to engage with someone who is (likely trolling, or) straight up in denial about how ingrained in our modern lives the internet has become. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890817213] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Anything that you need to use the internet for, you can do for free at thousands of free wifi spots all over the country.</quote> And what happens to those "free" wifi hotspots when they become too expensive for Starbucks/McDonalds/etc. to maintain?</quote> Go to a local library. The internet is not going to become too expensive for every free location to just get shut down over night.</quote> Yet we're implementing the first steps to have that eventually be the case in one form or another and here you are still telling us it's "no big deal".</quote> I think it's in our best interest to cease engaging with Howl. He's obviously just trolling and/or works for a big ISP.</quote> Fair enough.</quote> I am at work though, so if I get bored I might end up biting again. It's just so hard to engage with someone who is (likely trolling, or) straight up in denial about how ingrained in our modern lives the internet has become.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 11/21/17 3:40:15 PM #87:	you dorks really supported this man because of your resentment of Liberals and Darker people lol --- Sigs are boring <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:890817526] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>you dorks really supported this man because of your resentment of Liberals and Darker people lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
este914 11/21/17 3:43:56 PM #88:	Sayoria posted... Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol --- - <cite>este914 posted [p:890817735] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:45:58 PM #89:	este914 posted... Sayoria posted... Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol Why? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890817860] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol</quote> Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
este914 11/21/17 3:46:49 PM #90:	Muffinz0rz posted... este914 posted... Sayoria posted... Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol Why? Because this doesn't paint the whole picture I.e.; some of us who don't do social media won't mind this. --- - <cite>este914 posted [p:890817923] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol</quote> Why?</quote> Because this doesn't paint the whole picture I.e.; some of us who don't do social media won't mind this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StraightMACLIN 11/21/17 3:48:23 PM #91:	este914 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... este914 posted... Sayoria posted... Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol Why? Because this doesn't paint the whole picture I.e.; some of us who don't do social media won't mind this. umm you're using social media right now. what do you think a message board is? jfc --- http://imgur.com/kuTKb3n <cite>StraightMACLIN posted [p:890818027] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol</quote> Why?</quote> Because this doesn't paint the whole picture I.e.; some of us who don't do social media won't mind this.</quote> umm you're using social media right now. what do you think a message board is? jfc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:48:24 PM #92:	este914 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... este914 posted... Sayoria posted... Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol Why? Because this doesn't paint the whole picture I.e.; some of us who don't do social media won't mind this. Who's to say CE won't fall under social media? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890818030] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol</quote> Why?</quote> Because this doesn't paint the whole picture I.e.; some of us who don't do social media won't mind this.</quote> Who's to say CE won't fall under social media?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
este914 11/21/17 3:49:12 PM #93:	I could live without CE I think --- - <cite>este914 posted [p:890818074] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>I could live without CE I think </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 11/21/17 3:49:52 PM #94:	at least we get to point and laugh at the redhats when they gotta start paying more to access their white supremacist sites like /pol/ and r/the_donald --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:890818125] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>at least we get to point and laugh at the redhats when they gotta start paying more to access their white supremacist sites like /pol/ and r/the_donald</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 11/21/17 3:50:55 PM #95:	este914 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... este914 posted... Sayoria posted... Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol Why? Because this doesn't paint the whole picture I.e.; some of us who don't do social media won't mind this. Plus an ISP wouldnt actually do that because on average theyd take in less money for the same bandwidth usage. Would be more like pay X and access our sites plus a bunch of low bandwidth usage ones. Pay extra to access things like Netflix, Crunchyroll, use your internet for gaming, and access any competing sites. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:890818200] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Sorry but this is a bad photo to post lol</quote> Why?</quote> Because this doesn't paint the whole picture I.e.; some of us who don't do social media won't mind this.</quote> Plus an ISP wouldnt actually do that because on average theyd take in less money for the same bandwidth usage. Would be more like pay X and access our sites plus a bunch of low bandwidth usage ones. Pay extra to access things like Netflix, Crunchyroll, use your internet for gaming, and access any competing sites.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 11/21/17 3:51:02 PM #96:	good news, Trump is a barnfire and many GOPers (after their terrible tax bill) will probably run far away from this shit bad news these people don't give a shit about majority opinion and are actively trying to suppress Democratic institutions in America so they might not care and go full steam with this trash. --- Sigs are boring <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:890818210] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>good news, Trump is a barnfire and many GOPers (after their terrible tax bill) will probably run far away from this shit bad news these people don't give a shit about majority opinion and are actively trying to suppress Democratic institutions in America so they might not care and go full steam with this trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 3:52:01 PM #97:	este914 posted... I could live without CE I think You know, I think you're right when you say that picture isn't painting the whole picture. Mainly because that's about the best case scenario. The "video" section, instead of being 17.99, could break down even further, to $5 for netflix, $5 for Hulu, $5 for HBO, $5 for youtube, $5 for Amazon prime streaming...oh and that doesn't even include the respective monthly rates incurred by each of those sites' respective charges. Those additional $5 are just for access to those sites. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890818277] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>este914 posted...</cite> <quote>I could live without CE I think </quote> You know, I think you're right when you say that picture isn't painting the whole picture. Mainly because that's about the best case scenario. The "video" section, instead of being 17.99, could break down even further, to $5 for netflix, $5 for Hulu, $5 for HBO, $5 for youtube, $5 for Amazon prime streaming...oh and that doesn't even include the respective monthly rates incurred by each of those sites' respective charges. Those additional $5 are just for access to those sites.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 11/21/17 3:52:17 PM #98:	27_Sandman_40 posted... Meanwhile this still hasnt happened in Canada or Europe. Doesnt Canada have some arcane rules about the Internet? ib4loli --- DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below): <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:890818296] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>27_Sandman_40 posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile this still hasnt happened in Canada or Europe.</quote> Doesnt Canada have some arcane rules about the Internet? ib4loli</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeverOffended 11/21/17 4:10:26 PM #100:	man people ITT really are dense enough to make this a left vs right issue lol, newsflash we've fought both sides on NN <cite>NeverOffended posted [p:890819494] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>man people ITT really are dense enough to make this a left vs right issue lol, newsflash we've fought both sides on NN</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 11/21/17 4:12:11 PM #101:	NeverOffended posted... man people ITT really are dense enough to make this a left vs right issue lol, newsflash we've fought both sides on NN Everything is a left v right issue. As easy as it should be to keep it nonpartisan, people will still make it a partisan issue. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-4): https://i.imgur.com/XCApls7.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:890819599] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeverOffended posted...</cite> <quote>man people ITT really are dense enough to make this a left vs right issue lol, newsflash we've fought both sides on NN</quote> Everything is a left v right issue. As easy as it should be to keep it nonpartisan, people will still make it a partisan issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 11/21/17 4:16:31 PM #102:	it is a left vs right issue. And it was an issue decided last year --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan http://i.imgur.com/5Ta28.jpg <cite>bevan306 posted [p:890819866] in The FCC un... [t:76016025]...</cite> <quote>it is a left vs right issue. And it was an issue decided last year</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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