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Hexenherz
11/18/17 9:35:22 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Can we keep Fahrenheit for regular weather forecasts though?

no because thats even worse than shit like miles and inches

How?

Fahrenheit makes a million times more sense than Celsius for the weather. 0-100 F fits the temperature extremes far closer than 0-100 C.

0 C is a very common temperature in winter and it frequently drops much lower than that. 100 C is literally never encountered in weather. 0 F is closer to the winter minimum and 100 F is closer to the summer maximum. Fahrenheit utilizes much more of its 0-100 than Celsius does.

Literally the only benefit (weather and otherwise) of Celsius is that it's easier to remember two numbers for the freezing and boiling points of water, because it's just such a monumental task to remember 32 and 212.

0 C is where water freezes. 100 C is where water boils. far better than dumb as shit, arbitrary Fahrenheit numbers

Ok
Do I need to care at what temperature water boils to understand how comfortable it's going to be outside?
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Rika_Furude
11/18/17 9:37:32 AM
#52:


Explan how F is better than C then using logic
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haloiscoolisbak
11/18/17 9:38:53 AM
#53:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Can we keep Fahrenheit for regular weather forecasts though?

no because thats even worse than shit like miles and inches

How?

Fahrenheit makes a million times more sense than Celsius for the weather. 0-100 F fits the temperature extremes far closer than 0-100 C.

0 C is a very common temperature in winter and it frequently drops much lower than that. 100 C is literally never encountered in weather. 0 F is closer to the winter minimum and 100 F is closer to the summer maximum. Fahrenheit utilizes much more of its 0-100 than Celsius does.

Literally the only benefit (weather and otherwise) of Celsius is that it's easier to remember two numbers for the freezing and boiling points of water, because it's just such a monumental task to remember 32 and 212.


the reasons you're presenting for a nice simple 0-100/multiples of 10 system is why we all love the metric system so much

i'll give you the weather but on everything else metric is better
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Irony
11/18/17 9:39:26 AM
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Bigger numbers
Bigger = better
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weapon_d00d816
11/18/17 9:40:31 AM
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@Rika_Furude posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
You're arguing with feelings here, not logic.

lmao. this is how you know when a troll is done folks.

You haven't posted a single counter argument that actually addresses my points.

you dont have a point. you are arguing against logic using emotion.

Being a mirror isn't going to get you anywhere. You need to take a minute and explain how Celsius is somehow superior to Fahrenheit for the weather (emphasis in case you forgot).

i already explained that 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. you have presented no logic to counter this and demonstrate that arbitrary numbers are better

Let me break it down for you nice and easy: How many times have you walked outside and experienced 100C? How many times have you walked outside and experienced 100F (just slightly above human body temperature)? Now I know you live in Australia, but how often do you think people in temperate climates (places that experience varied seasons, i.e. spring/summer/autumn/winter) experience something colder than just the bare minimum for snow/ice in winter?

0-100C is great for chemistry and physics, but for the weather it's not ideal because its 0-100 scale does not line up closely with typical minimum and maximum air temperatures for temperate climates. Fahrenheit on the other hand fits pretty snugly with these minimum and maximum temperatures.

Therefore, in terms of weather usage, Fahrenheit is more practical and Celsius's otherwise logical placemarkers become rather arbitrary for this application.

(PS If you're still dead-set on using "ultra logical" temperature scales without regard for the 0-100 lining up then why not use the superior Kelvin?)
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Funkydog
11/18/17 9:41:42 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Just do what Britain does and use both

Quoting myself again. Just use the best (worst) from both worlds
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weapon_d00d816
11/18/17 9:46:57 AM
#57:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Can we keep Fahrenheit for regular weather forecasts though?

no because thats even worse than shit like miles and inches

How?

Fahrenheit makes a million times more sense than Celsius for the weather. 0-100 F fits the temperature extremes far closer than 0-100 C.

0 C is a very common temperature in winter and it frequently drops much lower than that. 100 C is literally never encountered in weather. 0 F is closer to the winter minimum and 100 F is closer to the summer maximum. Fahrenheit utilizes much more of its 0-100 than Celsius does.

Literally the only benefit (weather and otherwise) of Celsius is that it's easier to remember two numbers for the freezing and boiling points of water, because it's just such a monumental task to remember 32 and 212.


the reasons you're presenting for a nice simple 0-100/multiples of 10 system is why we all love the metric system so much

i'll give you the weather but on everything else metric is better

On the contrary.

My argument is the same for why I prefer other Imperial units in daily life: human relatability. Metric units are often cumbersome or tedious for various applications in a person's daily life. This is because Metric was designed for scientific uniformity and Imperial arose naturally based on the needs of those who used them.
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uwnim
11/18/17 9:53:54 AM
#58:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
uwnim posted...
The real question is why do non-Americans care so much about what units we use in our day to day life?


for the same reason people want a universal language?

what's cool about being isolationist

It isn't isolationistic though. We do also use metric units when they are actually needed or when they are actually practical. Like mg, ml and l are all common units for us because they added value. Everything else was pretty much useless for regular purposes.
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Howl
11/18/17 9:55:54 AM
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It's utterly and completely impossible. It would cost billions and billions of dollars to do this.
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averagejoel
11/18/17 9:57:04 AM
#60:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
@Rika_Furude posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
You're arguing with feelings here, not logic.

lmao. this is how you know when a troll is done folks.

You haven't posted a single counter argument that actually addresses my points.

you dont have a point. you are arguing against logic using emotion.

Being a mirror isn't going to get you anywhere. You need to take a minute and explain how Celsius is somehow superior to Fahrenheit for the weather (emphasis in case you forgot).

i already explained that 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. you have presented no logic to counter this and demonstrate that arbitrary numbers are better

Let me break it down for you nice and easy: How many times have you walked outside and experienced 100C? How many times have you walked outside and experienced 100F (just slightly above human body temperature)? Now I know you live in Australia, but how often do you think people in temperate climates (places that experience varied seasons, i.e. spring/summer/autumn/winter) experience something colder than just the bare minimum for snow/ice in winter?

0-100C is great for chemistry and physics, but for the weather it's not ideal because its 0-100 scale does not line up closely with typical minimum and maximum air temperatures for temperate climates. Fahrenheit on the other hand fits pretty snugly with these minimum and maximum temperatures.

Therefore, in terms of weather usage, Fahrenheit is more practical and Celsius's otherwise logical placemarkers become rather arbitrary for this application.

(PS If you're still dead-set on using "ultra logical" temperature scales without regard for the 0-100 lining up then why not use the superior Kelvin?)

this stops being an issue once people are used to Celsius.
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Mackorov
11/18/17 10:02:31 AM
#61:


uwnim posted...
The real question is why do non-Americans care so much about what units we use in our day to day life?


because it does affect non-Americans, especially when the US is one of the biggest exporters in the world and also has strong influences in many industries.

Like the example I gave in my post. Get a cookbook. Open it up only to see everything in stupid quartz, pint, cups, ounces. It's really annoying.
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uwnim
11/18/17 10:06:59 AM
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Mackorov posted...
uwnim posted...
The real question is why do non-Americans care so much about what units we use in our day to day life?


because it does affect non-Americans, especially when the US is one of the biggest exporters in the world and also has strong influences in many industries.

Like the example I gave in my post. Get a cookbook. Open it up only to see everything in stupid quartz, pint, cups, ounces. It's really annoying.

If I imported a cookbook from like some place in Europe, I'd expect to find things in mililiters and grams and then not be able to follow along because I don't have a good kitchen scale. Most of our stuff is volumetric so you could easily get a conversion chart and turn it all into liter based units.
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weapon_d00d816
11/18/17 10:09:17 AM
#63:


Mackorov posted...
uwnim posted...
The real question is why do non-Americans care so much about what units we use in our day to day life?


because it does affect non-Americans, especially when the US is one of the biggest exporters in the world and also has strong influences in many industries.

Like the example I gave in my post. Get a cookbook. Open it up only to see everything in stupid quartz, pint, cups, ounces. It's really annoying.

I will concede that for cooking imperial sucks. It no longer serves its human relatability purpose because the measuring instruments are fused with the objects of relatability themselves. Almost everyone here who cooks has actual measuring equipment and no need for estimating with standard kitchenware.
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shnangyboos
11/18/17 10:10:45 AM
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How the hell is this something you could have even the tiniest amount of passion about?
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Zodd3224
11/18/17 10:10:57 AM
#65:


uwnim posted...
Mackorov posted...
uwnim posted...
The real question is why do non-Americans care so much about what units we use in our day to day life?


because it does affect non-Americans, especially when the US is one of the biggest exporters in the world and also has strong influences in many industries.

Like the example I gave in my post. Get a cookbook. Open it up only to see everything in stupid quartz, pint, cups, ounces. It's really annoying.

If I imported a cookbook from like some place in Europe, I'd expect to find things in mililiters and grams and then not be able to follow along because I don't have a good kitchen scale. Most of our stuff is volumetric so you could easily get a conversion chart and turn it all into liter based units.


Or, you could type the measurement into Google and have it converted in seconds.
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uwnim
11/18/17 10:15:28 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Mackorov posted...
uwnim posted...
The real question is why do non-Americans care so much about what units we use in our day to day life?


because it does affect non-Americans, especially when the US is one of the biggest exporters in the world and also has strong influences in many industries.

Like the example I gave in my post. Get a cookbook. Open it up only to see everything in stupid quartz, pint, cups, ounces. It's really annoying.

I will concede that for cooking imperial sucks. It no longer serves its human relatability purpose because the measuring instruments are fused with the objects of relatability themselves. Almost everyone here who cooks has actual measuring equipment and no need for estimating with standard kitchenware.

Food would be the easiest thing to convert. Literally everything you buy has both US customary and metric units on it. Just change the order we present them and start standardizing package sizes based on the metric one and then we could convert our cooking measurements over. Everything else would be too annoying and not really have any benefit
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uwnim
11/18/17 10:16:35 AM
#68:


Sparksfanboy posted...
It wouldn't be a America if they didn't insist that no, everyone else is doing it wrong.

On this it's really the rest of the world who insists we are wrong while we say it doesn't really matter and there's no actual right or wrong.
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gatorsPENSbucs
11/18/17 10:16:46 AM
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Mackorov posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
stone posted...
Hexenherz posted...
xcuse me.
Fahrenheit is perfect for letting you know exactly how you should dress to be comfortable when going outside.

Silly question, but how is it perfect for this? Cause you could use the same argument with Celsius.

Itd be weird as shit to see its 30 whatever outside and be like boy its a hot one out there. Makes no sense.


only because it's new to you. Everyone else in the rest of the world can who uses celcius wont find it weird. Your defense is pretty weak here

Well thankfully I live in the best country in the world and dont have to deal with that nonsense.
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mario masta
11/18/17 10:25:03 AM
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Imagine caring so much how we Americans do things. Just worry about your own country.
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Rika_Furude
11/18/17 7:17:12 PM
#71:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Mackorov posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
stone posted...
Hexenherz posted...
xcuse me.
Fahrenheit is perfect for letting you know exactly how you should dress to be comfortable when going outside.

Silly question, but how is it perfect for this? Cause you could use the same argument with Celsius.

Itd be weird as shit to see its 30 whatever outside and be like boy its a hot one out there. Makes no sense.


only because it's new to you. Everyone else in the rest of the world can who uses celcius wont find it weird. Your defense is pretty weak here

Well thankfully I live in the best country in the world and dont have to deal with that nonsense.

The best second world country in the world
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