Current Events > guy claims to have done the world's first human head transplant

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https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/professor-claims-doctors-successfully-performed-human-head-transplant/

The worlds first human head transplant has been carried out on a corpse in China, according to a controversial Italian doctor who said Friday that he and his team are now ready to perform the surgery on a living person.

Dr. Sergio Canavero, chief of the Turin Advanced Neuromodulation Group, said the operation was carried out by a team led by Dr. Xiaoping Ren, who last year successfully grafted a head onto a monkeys body.

The first human transplant on human cadavers has been done. A full head swap between brain-dead organ donors is the next stage, Canavero said at a press conference in Vienna, the Telegraph of the UK reported.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/17/italian-doctor-says-worlds-first-human-head-transplant-imminent/847288001/

An Italian doctor announced Friday that he will soon perform the worlds first human head transplant in China because medical communities in the United States and Europe would not permit the controversial procedure.

"The Americans did not understand," Sergio Canavero told a news conference in Vienna.

Canavero said the Chinese government and Xiaoping Ren, a Chinese doctor partnering with him on the procedure, would confirm the surgery's date "within days" to signal its goal of becoming a world leader in all fields, including medicine.

Canavero estimates the procedure will cost up to $100 million and involve several dozen surgeons and other specialists.

He will simultaneously sever the spinal cords of the donor and recipient with a diamond blade. To protect the recipient's brain from immediate death before it is attached to the body, it will be cooled to a state of deep hypothermia.

The recipient and donor will be in a sitting position to facilitate what's expected to be more than about 24 hours of laborious work to separate and then reconnect vertebral bones, jugular veins, the trachea, esophagus and other neck structures. Machines will help the recipient breathe, pumping blood through the body. The patient will be kept in a drug-induced coma for an unspecified recovery time.

Michael Sarr, a former surgeon at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., and the editor of the journal Surgery, said Canavero's procedure is radical.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2017/nov/17/no-there-hasnt-been-a-human-head-transplant-and-may-never-be-sergio-canavero

And this recent successful human head transplant? It was on corpses! Call me a perfectionist if you must, but I genuinely think that any surgical procedure where the patients or subjects die before it even starts is really stretching the definition of success to breaking point. Maybe the procedure did make a good show of attaching the nerves and blood vessels on the broad scale, but, so what? Thats just the start of whats required for a working bodily system. Theres still a way to go. You can weld two halves of different cars together and call it a success if you like, but if the moment you turn the key in the ignition the whole thing explodes, most would be hard pressed to back you up on your brilliance.

Think of the ramifications if they can figure this out.

A person could find a body of the sex they identify as and put their head on it.
Or rich people put their head on new bodies when old. Some people would be kidnapped for their beautiful bodies.
If we ever learn to clone, they could clone you to make a younger body and find a way to put your old brain or skull on it.
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too creepy

That aint right
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Parasyte
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Frankenstein
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ThirdGender posted...

Frankenstein

basically

Frankenstein was more than just a head onto a new body though
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darkphoenix181 posted...

ThirdGender posted...

Frankenstein

basically

Frankenstein was more than just a head onto a new body though

I know, but this is the first step.
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I don't think it really counts as a success if you did it on a cadaver, because there's no way to determine whether or not it actually worked. You're essentially just sewing two dead things together and assuming they would have survived if they had been alive in the first place.
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eston posted...

I don't think it really counts as a success if you did it on a cadaver, because there's no way to determine whether or not it actually worked. You're essentially just sewing two dead things together and assuming they would have survived if they had been alive in the first place.

and now he is going to try on braindead person with a cadaver
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M_Live posted...

I feel like I've seen this news story multiple times over the past few years

you have seen where the guy claimed it possible

but now he claimed he did it
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Dead man's head goes on new dead body. Still dead.

Modern medicine is amazing
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darkphoenix181 posted...

eston posted...

I don't think it really counts as a success if you did it on a cadaver, because there's no way to determine whether or not it actually worked. You're essentially just sewing two dead things together and assuming they would have survived if they had been alive in the first place.

and now he is going to try on braindead person with a cadaver

Let the mods know so they can volunteer.
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Doctors "have always been taught that when you cut a nerve, the 'downstream side,' the part that takes a signal and conducts it to somewhere else, dies," he said. "The 'upstream side,' the part that generates the signal, dies back a little a millimeter or two and eventually regrows. As long as that 'downstream' channel is still there, it can regrow through that channel, but only for a length of about a foot."

This is why, he said, if you amputate your wrist and then re-implant it and line the nerves up well, you can recover function in your hand. But if your arm gets amputated at the shoulder, it won't be re-implanted because it will never lead to a functional hand.

"What Canavero will do differently is bathe the ends of the nerves in a solution that stabilizes the membranes and put them back together," Sarr said. "The nerves will be fused, but won't regrow. And he will do this not in the peripheral nerves such as you find in the arm, but in the spinal cord, where there's multiple types of nerve channels."

There has been some success using Canavero's proposed technique on mice and dogs. In one example, a dog walked after six weeks, albeit with an awkward gait. "Based on the classic thinking about how nerves regenerate it was unbelievable," Sarr said.

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wasn't this gonna be done on a volunteer who is dying anyway? the version I heard, the subject isn't brain dead, he's dying of something in his body, and this is his only chance, assuming it works.

What the fuck is wrong with the East.
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if you are asking why the east and west have different values

well the west has Christianity and the east has bhuddism
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Reminds me of......@ 0:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDBL9cG7jhA
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People should just accept death.
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Mars Attacks! here we come
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There's a micro transaction for you.

I remember reading about a scientist (I think he was Russian) who experimented transplanting brains in some type of monkey. He was able to technically succeed, but they only lived for a few minutes because the brain couldn't work with the spine. Or something like that... I remember he was practically ostracised for it.
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The body will reject and they die

If he is somehow able to do this even if he kills a few individuals (scientists have done that since the beginning of time) he will go down as one of history's most important doctor.
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This seems like some WWII era German/Japanese experimentation.
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Next step, cloning. Then after becoming old, cut the head of the clone and add natural human head in clone's body.
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Ultima Dragon posted...

This seems like some WWII era German/Japanese experimentation.

Not really since they aren't operating on captives who don't want to be there. Performing experiments on humans isn't solely the realm of Nazis.
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Doesn't he know statements like "The Americans didn't understand" are like the biggest red flag for a mad scientist
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Trumpo posted...

The body will reject and they die

I mean sure, if blood type and other factors don't meet the requirements (whatever those requirements are).
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Trumpo posted...

The body will reject and they die

This is what I want to know too.

How much risk is there of rejection? This already happens in organ transplants, I cannot begin to imagine how horrible it must be in this case, assuming it is possible.
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

Doesn't he know statements like "The Americans didn't understand" are like the biggest red flag for a mad scientist

maybe back in the 80s

but this is 2017 when America is the giant evil that has Trump for president and oppresses the entire globe and doesn't care about scientific progress and is GASP capitalist!
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Isn't that the guy that everyone said looked like the MGSV doctor lol
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I've been waiting all year for this.
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KainWind posted...

I've been waiting all year for this.

why?
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You guys remember when everyone was freaking out about how the doctor from MGSV looks exactly like that guy?

Loved that game on the psp

Dead Head Fred
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I can sew a dead raccoon's head to a dead possum's body and claim it science, but that doesn't mean shit if both are dead to begin with and still dead as a result.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

I can sew a dead raccoon's head to a dead possum's body and claim it science, but that doesn't mean shit if both are dead to begin with and still dead as a result.

So that what that smell is coming from that locked door
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