Board 8 > Senator Al Franken caught on camera sexually assaulting sleeping woman

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Jakyl25
11/16/17 4:32:03 PM
#102:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
The line with the Democrats appears to be shaming Franken and calling for "an immediate ethics investigation." Haven't heard any elected officials demanding his resignation yet.


Isnt that the line with the Republicans too?

Many GOP senators are calling for Moore to drop out and threatening to expel him if elected, so no.


I mean with regard to Franken
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Nelson_Mandela
11/16/17 4:32:42 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
The line with the Democrats appears to be shaming Franken and calling for "an immediate ethics investigation." Haven't heard any elected officials demanding his resignation yet.


Isnt that the line with the Republicans too?

Many GOP senators are calling for Moore to drop out and threatening to expel him if elected, so no.


I mean with regard to Franken

Oh, yes. But idk it seems to be in bad taste to call for someone of the opposite party to resign.
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Jakyl25
11/16/17 4:34:27 PM
#104:


Its never historically been in bad taste, from either side.
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Nelson_Mandela
11/16/17 4:34:54 PM
#105:


Yeah I know, but these are weird times.
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Gatarix
11/16/17 4:45:23 PM
#106:


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What would it take for you to believe them?

DNA evidence from when the skin on the side of his hand touched the page?

The dude LITERALLY ADMITTED HE DATED TEENAGE GIRLS (with their mother's permission).

Not all the Roy Moore stuff is in the same boat, though.

The damning, career-ending allegations: He undressed a 14-year-old, touched her bra and underpants, and guided her hand to his underpants. She pulled her hand back, re-dressed and demanded that he take her home, which he did. If you want to say "light him on fire and feed him to the dogs," this is the stuff to point to.

The other stuff:
- He asked out a 16-year-old. Her mother refused to let them date. So he didn't.
- He dated a 17-year-old. Their relationship didn't go beyond kisses. (which I think is okay? unless you think 17-year-olds shouldn't be allowed to date, or shouldn't be allowed to kiss on dates)
- He dated an 18-year-old. Their relationship didn't go beyond kissing and hugging. He bought her cocktails although she was below the legal drinking age of 19. This is obviously not a good look for a district attorney who is supposed to be an officer of the law, but I wouldn't put it on the same level as sexual misconduct.

This other stuff is sorta relevant insofar as it shows that Moore was into people younger than him (so it sidelong corroborates the actual damning allegations) but there's no allegation of sexual misconduct here. Only with respect to the 14-year-old.
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Jakyl25
11/16/17 4:57:03 PM
#107:


You left out the entire yearbook woman
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Gatarix
11/16/17 5:00:23 PM
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I didn't know there was a yearbook woman, I only knew about those four people who came forward

what happened with the yearbook woman?
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ChaosTonyV4
11/16/17 5:06:36 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
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The Franken story doesn't have legs right now mosly because the accuser accepted the apology and hopes he has changed for the better.

No real venom there.


gee I WONDER WHY


Because he apologized to her and she accepted it.

It's right there in the post you're quoting.

Its because Frankin is a democrat. This story will largely get ignored. If it is reported, it wont get NEARLY the coverage Moore got.


A) It is being widely reported on every news site, shitloads of liberal reporters have tweeted about it, too.

B) Moore has been accused of misconduct with MULTIPLE UNDERAGE girls so obviously its a little more serious?

Try harder Ulti.
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Suprak the Stud
11/16/17 6:14:07 PM
#111:


Gatarix posted...
I didn't know there was a yearbook woman, I only knew about those four people who came forward

what happened with the yearbook woman?


There was yearbook woman and another woman after that came forward yesterday! So you're actually two behind.
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Suprak the Stud
11/16/17 6:15:00 PM
#112:


Jakyl25 posted...
The way she describes his actions makes it almost a sure thing that hes sexually assaulted other women too.


This was also my first reaction, too.
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Drakeryn
11/16/17 7:43:10 PM
#113:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Gatarix posted...
I didn't know there was a yearbook woman, I only knew about those four people who came forward

what happened with the yearbook woman?


There was yearbook woman and another woman after that came forward yesterday! So you're actually two behind.

so I went to look these up

yikes

there's also a corroboration effect. I initially doubted the 14-year-old's account based on what the other 3 women said (i.e., he did nothing sexually inappropriate, never tried anything beyond kisses and hugs). but now that there are three allegations of sexual assault/abuse on the table, you get a very different picture of a guy who repeatedly can't control himself around women
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foolm0r0n
11/17/17 3:47:20 AM
#114:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOQpjvnm4ME


Holy shit he literally talked about EVERY SINGLE harassment case EXCEPT Franken. I know I always blast the True Conservatives on this board but I gotta admit they nailed this one. Bravo m'fine gents.
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ChaosTonyV4
11/17/17 4:10:04 AM
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Didnt watch, but if youre serious thats both hilarious and sad.
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Terastodon
11/17/17 5:14:40 AM
#116:


foolm0r0n posted...


Holy shit he literally talked about EVERY SINGLE harassment case EXCEPT Franken. I know I always blast the True Conservatives on this board but I gotta admit they nailed this one. Bravo m'fine gents.

Man, don't bring this sarcasm out here - they talked about Jimmy Kimmel and SNL. No-one ever mentioned Colbert.
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CeraSeptem
11/17/17 6:29:48 AM
#117:


foolm0r0n posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOQpjvnm4ME


Holy shit he literally talked about EVERY SINGLE harassment case EXCEPT Franken. I know I always blast the True Conservatives on this board but I gotta admit they nailed this one. Bravo m'fine gents.

I cannot wait for this pay off.
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Mr Lasastryke
11/17/17 8:00:41 AM
#118:


Terastodon posted...
Man, don't bring this sarcasm out here - they talked about Jimmy Kimmel and SNL. No-one ever mentioned Colbert.


yeah, i'm sure they don't have a problem with leftist talkshows in general. it's just kimmel and SNL!
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v_charon
11/17/17 8:47:49 AM
#119:


I feel like the big difference are the common people.

With Democrat voters, they tend to reject any sort of transgressions from their party. Not all of them obviously, but enough to cause them to lose an election. This is pretty damning for the party and we'll have to see how it impacts voters next year overall, but I bet it hurts a lot. Moderate swing voters who favor the Dems tend to turn on the party. But the Republicans? As we have evidence of in Trump and Moore, they don't care. They'd rather elect predators and victimizers than ever vote for a Democrat at all. You can see this pretty clearly in Alabama, where Moore still has a comfortable lead in the polls and will definitely win the election no matter what. It's much like when Trump even boasted about this; saying that even if he shot someone he wouldn't lose voters. He knows his supporters that well. They didn't care he was on tape talking about crotch grabbing, which would have been damning for anyone else. Him? It didn't matter. Hillary had too much bad press against her and the moderates were turning on her because of it.

Like most people who lean left, this story makes me sad and I don't find him very fit anymore despite my previous like for him. It's a shame I can't close my eyes and blindly stand for him anyway despite this, like so much of this country does for the other side.
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Eddv
11/17/17 8:50:56 AM
#120:


foolm0r0n posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOQpjvnm4ME


Holy shit he literally talked about EVERY SINGLE harassment case EXCEPT Franken. I know I always blast the True Conservatives on this board but I gotta admit they nailed this one. Bravo m'fine gents.


I wondered when Colbert is filmed but then i remembered this broke really early in the day.
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foolm0r0n
11/17/17 11:32:26 AM
#121:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Didnt watch, but if youre serious thats both hilarious and sad.

I said m'fine gents
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ChaosTonyV4
11/17/17 2:03:50 PM
#123:


foolm0r0n posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Didnt watch, but if youre serious thats both hilarious and sad.

I said m'fine gents


Finally watched. Good stuff.
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