Current Events > Trump judicial nominee praised the KKK and its founder in a message board post

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A search of TideFans.com reveals that BamainBoston often opined on controversial issues, including race, abortion, perceived federal overreach, and Southern heritage. In one post from February 2011, he defended the honor of the early Ku Klux Klan.

That morning at 9:17 a.m., a user with the handle Bamaro posted a story about a Mississippi proposal to honor Nathan Bedford Forrest by placing his image on a license plate. Who comes up with these ideas? the user asked. Honor someone who served as the first KKK Grand Wizard.

BamainBoston responded an hour later:

Heaven forbid we let the facts get in the way of your righteous indignation, but Forrest, when he decommissioned his men, told them to make peace with the men they had fought and live as good citizens of the United States. It was only after the perceived depredations of the Union army during reconstruction that Forrest joined (it is highly unlikely that he founded or acted as the Grand Wizard) the first KKK, which was entirely different than the KKK of the early 19th Century. When the Klan turned to racial violence, he distanced himself from the organization as he had long supported the reconciliation of the races. In fact, he often spoke to black organizations.

First, he omits the 1864 Fort Pillow massacre, when Forrest led his troops to a mass slaughter of black soldiers. It is unclear whether Forrest explicitly permitted the indiscriminate killing, but he later celebrated it, declaring his hope that these facts will demonstrate to the Northern people that negro soldiers cannot cope with Southerners.

Second, the allegation that the first KKK was entirely different from that of the early 19th Century does not withstand scrutiny... From its inception, the KKK promoted white supremacy and opposed federal efforts to protect the civil rights of freed blacks. The group employed intimidation and violence, including murder, to thwart Reconstruction...

Contrary to BamainBostons assertion, Forrest did likely serve as the KKKs first leader, or Grand Wizard...

BamainBostons account, then, whitewashes the reality that Forrests leadership of the Klan coincided with its early forays into racial violence. It also falsely differentiates the first KKK from its later iteration, perpetuating a pernicious myth that the nascent Klan was noble and benevolent.

Talley has already been voted out of the Senate Judiciary Committee on a party-line vote. If confirmed, he will enjoy a lifetime appointment to interpret a Constitution whose history he does not appear to understand.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/11/15/trump_nominee_brett_talley_appears_to_have_defended_the_first_kkk.html

does this surprise anyone?
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Not surprised to hear this sadly.
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yusiko posted...

does this surprise anyone?

It should, but no. Still, I can't believe how far this administration is willing to go on this shit.
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yusiko posted...

does this surprise anyone?

No... The type of argument he employed, citing the importance of "facts" over "righteous indignation" (feelings), has often been used as a flimsy buttress for arguments that dehumanize other groups of people, and as a smokescreen for racism. At least in my experience. =/

The standards have been set so irredeemably low now that stories like this are just worthy of a half sigh rather than outrage.
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pinky0926 posted...

The standards have been set so irredeemably low now that stories like this are just worthy of a half sigh rather than outrage.

Another word for that is moving the Overton window... and yeah, it has been moved.

But we gotta spite the liberals, rights?
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Dude's racist as hell, incompetent to boot and completely shameless in his ignorance, but he said nice things about Trumps and the reactions from triggered lib babies is worth it.

Now someone post a story about some annoying sjws or a racist democrat so people can claim "both sides" and not care about this.
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Oh look, liberals once again calling anyone they don't like white supremacists!
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"He recruited 150 people into the KKK, but he's a good guy now because Hillary told me so!" - liberals
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Is this the guy who passed the bar exam three years ago, or was that someone else?
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shockthemonkey posted...

Heineken14 posted...

Oh look, liberals once again calling anyone they don't like white supremacists!

Cant tell if serious

As serious as a DifferentialEquation post!
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Kineth posted...

yusiko posted...

does this surprise anyone?

It should, but no. Still, I can't believe how far this administration is willing to go on this shit.

So you got Banon and Miller and Sessions in the WH.
You got legislators like King from Iowa.
And now we will have judges like this guy.

Imagine having supremacists infiltrating all branches of government at the highest levels. It will be open season on minorities.

Bump.

it's ok he's only going to be on the bench for life! that's another what, 50 years?

oh...
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B-b-b-but, the KKK was founded by Dems!!!
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Glass_Phantom posted...

No... The type of argument he employed, citing the importance of "facts" over "righteous indignation" (feelings), has often been used as a flimsy buttress for arguments that dehumanize other groups of people, and as a smokescreen for racism. At least in my experience. =/

It happens here weekly, at the very least.
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Theres no way this fucker gets nominated
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Sooo this should immediately make him unable to take the position right?
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DifferentialEquation posted...

"He recruited 150 people into the KKK, but he's a good guy now because Hillary told me so!" - liberals

You know that is a photoshopped image on the the right side, right?

Good news is the GOP waving the blue slip rule gives the Dems the perfect excuse to clear these picks out next time they have senate control
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clearaflagrantj posted...

You know that is a photoshopped image on the the right side, right?

See now I thought that was weird. I knew Byrd was in the KKK when he was younger, but his association ended when he was younger.

I'm like why is he an old man in the robes?
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Doom_Art posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

You know that is a photoshopped image on the the right side, right?

See now I thought that was weird. I knew Byrd was in the KKK when he was younger, but his association ended when he was younger.

I'm like why is he an old man in the robes?

Yup.

I'm not defending Byrd, because he is a piece of shit. Also Hillary is a vile bitch. Just calling out that the picture is fake, r/the_donald itself has even admitted it, they just enjoy the picture too much to stop using it

Glass_Phantom posted...

A search of TideFans.com

Oh god dammit

Well this is another reason to stop using that site. The other reason would be that their old as shit admin runs the site with an iron fist and if you don't fellate him or fall in line with the hivemind, you get suspended/banned
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