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chill02
11/15/17 8:32:45 PM
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UncleBourbon33
11/15/17 8:33:41 PM
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Why is it okay make fun of incels here? Social anxiety is not funny.
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CiIantro
11/15/17 8:34:06 PM
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chill02 posted...
why

they are losers
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Zikten
11/15/17 8:34:49 PM
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because I have autism and no social skills. it doesn't bug me as much as it used to. now i'm in my 30's and I've just grown to accept it. kinda like accepting a depression. I don't really care as much as I used to. even if a girl threw herself at me, I wouldn't know what to do with her
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Ouned
11/15/17 8:35:14 PM
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The Incel Alliance has standards.
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JxOxNxIxCxS
11/15/17 8:35:18 PM
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So i read about this incel. I was like "lol this is so me" until i read the part about women owing them sex.

What the fuck
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UncleBourbon33
11/15/17 8:36:45 PM
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Zikten posted...
because I have autism and no social skills. it doesn't bug me as much as it used to. now i'm in my 30's and I've just grown to accept it. kinda like accepting a depression. I don't really care as much as I used to. even if a girl threw herself at me, I wouldn't know what to do with her

You're 36 right? If you did try to date would you be stuck with women around your age?

I'm 26 but I'd date 18 year olds tbh.
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Ouned
11/15/17 8:36:56 PM
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JxOxNxIxCxS posted...
So i read about this incel. I was like "lol this is so me" until i read the part about women owing them sex.

What the fuck

Incels are highly attractive people so it's easy to see why that happens. But it's only an extreme sect of the Alliance that feels sex is owed.
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JxOxNxIxCxS
11/15/17 8:37:47 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
Zikten posted...
because I have a and no social skills. it doesn't bug me as much as it used to. now i'm in my 30's and I've just grown to accept it. kinda like accepting a depression. I don't really care as much as I used to. even if a girl threw herself at me, I wouldn't know what to do with her

You're 36 right? If you did try to date would you be stuck with women around your age?


This is bothering me, too. Im worried thst i may not get it on with womn kn their early 20s.
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KogaSteelfang
11/15/17 8:38:31 PM
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CiIantro posted...
chill02 posted...
why

they are losers


Anyway, social anxiety, depression, low self esteem, no social skills, low population town, and shy reclusive lifestyle.
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JxOxNxIxCxS
11/15/17 8:38:57 PM
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Ouned posted...
JxOxNxIxCxS posted...
So i read about this incel. I was like "lol this is so me" until i read the part about women owing them sex.

What the fuck

Incels are highly attractive people so it's easy to see why that happens. But it's only an extreme sect of the Alliance that feels sex is owed.


So theyre actually attractive with the whole "im so ugly" high school social anxiety?

Well shit, this aint definitely me.
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Zikten
11/15/17 8:40:34 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
You're 36 right? If you did try to date would you be stuck with women around your age?

maybe. and they are mostly married or divorced with kids now....I did know this one girl that was in her 20's that I knew before I moved to Alaska. she had aspergers too. and over the course of like 5 years we occasionally got together and went to movies or other things like once we went to one of those halloween corn maze things. but I never knew what to say around her and most of our time was awkward silence. I haven't even talked to her in like a year. and I didn't even tell her I moved. she probably figured it out though cause of some stuff I posted on facebook. I realized it was never going to work with her. 2 autistic people together is not a good match, I found out. one of them needs to be more normal and outgoing, or nothing happens
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Ouned
11/15/17 8:41:27 PM
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JxOxNxIxCxS posted...
So theyre actually attractive with the whole "im so ugly" high school social anxiety?

Only girls do that.
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Gamer99z
11/15/17 8:42:59 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
Why is it okay make fun of incels here? Social anxiety is not funny.

Having social anxiety =/= incel
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Izual_Reborn
11/15/17 8:43:00 PM
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Zikten posted...
because I have autism and no social skills. it doesn't bug me as much as it used to. now i'm in my 30's and I've just grown to accept it. kinda like accepting a depression. I don't really care as much as I used to. even if a girl threw herself at me, I wouldn't know what to do with her


Sounds like giving up.
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KogaSteelfang
11/15/17 8:46:02 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
Why is it okay make fun of incels here? Social anxiety is not funny.

Having social anxiety =/= incel

Even if it's bad enough to prevent you from socializing, and in turn stops you from ever getting laid?
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Gamer99z
11/15/17 8:53:13 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
Gamer99z posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
Why is it okay make fun of incels here? Social anxiety is not funny.

Having social anxiety =/= incel

Even if it's bad enough to prevent you from socializing, and in turn stops you from ever getting laid?

I mean they don't inherently equal each other. I know tons of people irl with social anxiety that aren't incels, myself included, and a lot of those dudes on like r/incels and shit didn't have crippling social anxiety, they just had toxic personalities.
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Eevee-Trainer
11/15/17 8:58:10 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
Why is it okay make fun of incels here? Social anxiety is not funny.

I have social anxiety but I still manage to get into relationships.
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Ouned
11/15/17 9:07:52 PM
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These must be especially minor cases of social anxiety.
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CanuckCowboy
11/15/17 9:22:16 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
Why is it okay make fun of incels here? Social anxiety is not funny.


There's a goddanged world of difference between social anxiety and those dudes.
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KogaSteelfang
11/15/17 9:27:37 PM
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Well, seems like the topic was aimed at making some of us feel like shit, even if we already felt that way. I guess it's good to know that you guys feel we're just pathetic losers though. Congrats, you win at life or whatever.
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Deadpool_18
11/15/17 9:34:13 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
The "in" stands for involuntary.

They didn't choose the incel life, they're just losers that can't get laid.


They choose that life through their behavior. It isnt hard to have sex. Its free if youre smart.
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SableWolfAngel
11/15/17 9:39:58 PM
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Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.
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SpoonRebooted
11/15/17 9:41:10 PM
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I have Asperger's, and I have never had the problems that "incels" complain about. I also have a Master's degree in Psychology, with a specialization in Sexual Dysfunction, and have counseled "incels", and helped them to have healthy sex lives. I have reached out to several here, with no response.

It's my opinion that at least some of them prefer to be "incel". If there are any among you that do not, send me a PM and I will outline how I can help. Your personal information will be never be shared, even that you contacted me will be kept confidential. This is not pickup artist techniques, this is how to improve yourself, physically, emotionally, and psychologically, to make it easier to meet women and have healthy relationships.
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KogaSteelfang
11/15/17 9:43:02 PM
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SableWolfAngel posted...
Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.

I'm a nice guy, I'm generous, and polite and kind. I joke around, and don't whine/complain irl, and no one even looks at me either. >_>
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SableWolfAngel
11/15/17 9:45:34 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...
Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.

I'm a nice guy, I'm generous, and polite and kind. I joke around, and don't whine/complain irl, and no one even looks at me either. >_>


Maybe you haven't noticed. There could be a shy girl you know that's just waiting to get to know you better, sweetheart.
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Eevee-Trainer
11/15/17 9:48:21 PM
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SableWolfAngel posted...
KogaSteelfang posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...
Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.

I'm a nice guy, I'm generous, and polite and kind. I joke around, and don't whine/complain irl, and no one even looks at me either. >_>


Maybe you haven't noticed. There could be a shy girl you know that's just waiting to get to know you better, sweetheart.

This.

I didn't learn how many girls were apparently into me until my sister started telling me years later. (Granted it wasn't a ton, but back then anything was huge.) I didn't even start picking up on those cues until recently.

I mean, really, you seem like a decent enough dude on here and from what I recall of your pics you look good too. I can't think of a reason you are single beyond simply not being that outgoing or approaching girls much (though for all I know you do it regularly, I don't really follow anyone's love life here, no offense).
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Naysaspace
11/15/17 9:53:55 PM
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my best friend is an incel

he didn't get there because he is "bad with women" or "autistic"...he's exceptionally smart, well-spoken, and capable of holding a pretty decent (60k/yr) career. granted, his hygiene sucks, but that's just bad habits.

he got there because he looked in the wrong places for answers. MRA's, Redpill, PUA sites, etc. It's all snake oil -- you can't teach charisma. His reliance on these avenues of "Education" bestowed on him a disdain, malice, hatred for women. Now, sadly, he keeps clammoring about how "women this, all women that, etc", and often refers to anyone female as "slut" or "whore" the same way you'd refer to a man as "dude" or "bud". it's very disappointing to be, because 10 years ago we were both in the same boat -- pretty bad with trying to get a date. Eventually I got over my anxiety (Read: developed coping mechanisms and went to therapy) which made me better around people in general.
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KogaSteelfang
11/15/17 9:55:55 PM
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You're right, I don't approach people. I'm awful at meeting people, and I don't really go out. I've tried online dating though, and it was a complete bust aside from 1 woman who said I wasn't good enough to be with her, but still wanted to be friends because we liked the same movies, then she turned out to be very stalkerish in the end. I gave up after that.
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Harpie
11/15/17 9:57:47 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
You're right, I don't approach people. I'm awful at meeting people, and I don't really go out. I've tried online dating though, and it was a complete bust aside from 1 woman who said I wasn't good enough to be with her, but still wanted to be friends because we liked the same movies, then she turned out to be very stalkerish in the end. I gave up after that.

If it makes yoy feel any better I would go out with you :p
Though I'm the bottom of the barrel sooo..
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Gamer99z
11/15/17 9:58:21 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
Well, seems like the topic was aimed at making some of us feel like shit, even if we already felt that way. I guess it's good to know that you guys feel we're just pathetic losers though. Congrats, you win at life or whatever.

I don't consider nice people with things like crippling social anxiety or other social disorders to he incels. Incel also carries the connotations that you're bitter about it, feel like you're entitled to hot women, to sex from them, that the world is wronging you in some way, etc.
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Renault
11/15/17 9:58:21 PM
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@hortanz
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Kanaya413
11/15/17 10:00:58 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
The "in" stands for involuntary.

They didn't choose the incel life, they're just losers that can't get laid.

Me
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Eevee-Trainer
11/15/17 10:02:31 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
You're right, I don't approach people. I'm awful at meeting people, and I don't really go out. I've tried online dating though, and it was a complete bust aside from 1 woman who said I wasn't good enough to be with her, but still wanted to be friends because we liked the same movies, then she turned out to be very stalkerish in the end. I gave up after that.

Can't say I have much else to offer to help you then other than to just ... you know, change that. Don't give up on online dating after one failure. Try to be more outgoing and meet people.

Small steps help obviously but ... obviously it's easier said than done.

And I imagine it's probably already been told to you and you're tired of hearing this and I probably should shut up.
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11/15/17 10:02:35 PM
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Kanaya413
11/15/17 10:05:44 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
Gamer99z posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
Why is it okay make fun of incels here? Social anxiety is not funny.

Having social anxiety =/= incel

Even if it's bad enough to prevent you from socializing, and in turn stops you from ever getting laid?

Mood
Then I actually find someone I like and he's not interested and half way across the world
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KogaSteelfang
11/15/17 10:06:25 PM
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Zurkon posted...
KogaSteelfang posted...
You're right, I don't approach people. I'm awful at meeting people, and I don't really go out. I've tried online dating though, and it was a complete bust aside from 1 woman who said I wasn't good enough to be with her, but still wanted to be friends because we liked the same movies, then she turned out to be very stalkerish in the end. I gave up after that.

You're a nice guy, Koga and you'll find someone eventually. I think you should get away from identifying with the incel label altogether. When people talk about them they usually mean the bitter and hateful people from the r/incel community, not people like you. The way it is now, if you don't have those negative feelings towards women and don't feel like they owe you something then you can say you're not an incel. Not to say you're not an involuntary celibate, but to say you're not part of that group of people.

Of course I don't have negative feelings towards women, that's just ridiculous. I do feel that I'm growing more bitter over this as time goes on though. It's so frustrating to see everyone else is capable of meeting someone, and there seem to be dozens of sex topics here daily full of people bragging about their experiences.

I do see what you mean, but it feels like people are looking down on those of us who can't find somebody. They act like having sex is such an important thing, that there's something horribly wrong with someone not having it(whether by choice or not), then those same people accuse us of putting it on a pedestal when all I really want is someone I can be comfortable with. It just sucks.
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SamuelHayden
11/15/17 10:07:48 PM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
Zikten posted...
because I have autism and no social skills. it doesn't bug me as much as it used to. now i'm in my 30's and I've just grown to accept it. kinda like accepting a depression. I don't really care as much as I used to. even if a girl threw herself at me, I wouldn't know what to do with her

You're 36 right? If you did try to date would you be stuck with women around your age?

I'm 26 but I'd date 18 year olds tbh.


He is in his 30s and hadnt had sex. He'd not know what to do now. He'd disappoint any girl terribly, by now he shouldn't even try.
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SamuelHayden
11/15/17 10:08:41 PM
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SableWolfAngel posted...
Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.


they could be short or obese too
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SableWolfAngel
11/15/17 10:12:22 PM
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SamuelHayden posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...
Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.


they could be short or obese too


That doesn't matter. Right now I'm seeing a guy who's, like, 260lbs and not in a well proportioned way. But he's sweet to me, respects me, is easy going, and is just generally an all around nice guy. Physical appearance doesn't always matter. I go for the personality above all else.
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SamuelHayden
11/15/17 10:13:39 PM
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SableWolfAngel posted...
SamuelHayden posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...
Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.


they could be short or obese too


That doesn't matter. Right now I'm seeing a guy who's, like, 260lbs and not in a well proportioned way. But he's sweet to me, respects me, is easy going, and is just generally an all around nice guy. Physical appearance doesn't always matter. I go for the personality above all else.


you're awesome. And rare. I don't think that happens often, many girls do want 'the three 6's' (6 pack abs, 6 feet high, 6 inch manhood)
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Eevee-Trainer
11/15/17 10:15:41 PM
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SamuelHayden posted...
you're awesome. And rare. I don't think that happens often, many girls do want 'the three 6's' (6 pack abs, 6 feet high, 6 inch manhood)

Maybe it's just me and my naivete but I think that's just memed to death to the point it seems more common than it is.

Grain of salt though.
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KogaSteelfang
11/15/17 10:15:47 PM
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SamuelHayden posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
Zikten posted...
because I have autism and no social skills. it doesn't bug me as much as it used to. now i'm in my 30's and I've just grown to accept it. kinda like accepting a depression. I don't really care as much as I used to. even if a girl threw herself at me, I wouldn't know what to do with her

You're 36 right? If you did try to date would you be stuck with women around your age?

I'm 26 but I'd date 18 year olds tbh.


He is in his 30s and hadnt had sex. He'd not know what to do now. He'd disappoint any girl terribly, by now he shouldn't even try.

*sigh*
See? Best case scenario for people like is us is being a disappointment.
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SableWolfAngel
11/15/17 10:17:41 PM
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SamuelHayden posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...
SamuelHayden posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...
Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.


they could be short or obese too


That doesn't matter. Right now I'm seeing a guy who's, like, 260lbs and not in a well proportioned way. But he's sweet to me, respects me, is easy going, and is just generally an all around nice guy. Physical appearance doesn't always matter. I go for the personality above all else.


you're awesome. And rare. I don't think that happens often, many girls do want 'the three 6's' (6 pack abs, 6 feet high, 6 inch manhood)


Really? That would explain why he thought I was tricking him when we first did anything intimate. I don't think I'm all that special. I bet there are lots and lots of girls who go for nice guys like that. Who would want to be with a guy who's good looking if he was a douche or just a bad guy? I don't see the point in that.
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Eevee-Trainer
11/15/17 10:18:31 PM
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SableWolfAngel posted...
Who would want to be with a guy who's good looking if he was a douche or just a bad guy? I don't see the point in that.

^ this x 1000
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Kanaya413
11/15/17 10:23:00 PM
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SableWolfAngel posted...
SamuelHayden posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...
SamuelHayden posted...
SableWolfAngel posted...
Just a bunch of Elliots bitching about why they can't get sex and/or girls to pay attention to them. Maybe if they were less bitter and creepy then they'd probably have a chance. I'd never in my life even look at one of those guys, let alone let them touch me. You don't have to be an alpha Chad to get girls, you just need to be nice and good and decent.


they could be short or obese too


That doesn't matter. Right now I'm seeing a guy who's, like, 260lbs and not in a well proportioned way. But he's sweet to me, respects me, is easy going, and is just generally an all around nice guy. Physical appearance doesn't always matter. I go for the personality above all else.


you're awesome. And rare. I don't think that happens often, many girls do want 'the three 6's' (6 pack abs, 6 feet high, 6 inch manhood)


Really? That would explain why he thought I was tricking him when we first did anything intimate. I don't think I'm all that special. I bet there are lots and lots of girls who go for nice guys like that. Who would want to be with a guy who's good looking if he was a douche or just a bad guy? I don't see the point in that.

I wouldn't let a douchebag touch me even if he looked like my dream guy
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