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pinky0926
11/13/17 7:25:18 AM
#203:


wackyteen posted...
pinky0926 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
If you say so. Sounds like free advertising to me


At this point they're trying to mitigate a PR disaster, not spread brand awareness.

EA are masters at creating PR disasters.

This one is even worse because they said they'd fix the issues people had in BattlEAfront and then they went and created a system that was oh so much worse for the consumer. <__<


Yep. However they don't need to fully aboutface on this stuff. They just need to calm it down enough to ensure it doesn't affect their bottom-line.

For every outraged redditor swearing he'll never buy another EA game, I bet there's some saudi prince's kid who will spend $10k on microtransactions, and another 10% of consumers who will continue to keep buying microtransactions, and overall a general audience that doesn't get wrapped up in reddit drama.
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thelovefist
11/13/17 7:30:14 AM
#204:


Lvaneede posted...
-168k now, this is insane

There is no doubt now that bots or trolls or spamming downvotes for "the lulz". It has grown by 50% in just a couple of hours.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
11/13/17 7:35:21 AM
#205:


If you're so pissed, just don't buy the game. I haven't bought a game with micro transactions in it. If I have, they weren't significant and so I never bothered with them.

If idiots want to waste their money on this game, let them. There are plenty of other games to play. You don't need this game
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A_Good_Boy
11/13/17 7:43:09 AM
#206:


pegusus123456 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
pinky0926 posted...
DemonBuffet posted...
Can EA delete this post or is it undeletable after a certain number of votes?


They can delete it but that would be absolutely the worst thing they could do at this point. Barbra Streisand effect and all that.

If you say so. Sounds like free advertising to me

You not understanding the difference between fame and infamy explains a lot.

They're the same exact thing once the topic is about video games. Gamers have demonstrated time and time again that all their blustering is worthless cause they just go out and buy the game they're upset about anyways.
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Gamer99z
11/13/17 7:43:43 AM
#207:


Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
If you're so pissed, just don't buy the game. I haven't bought a game with micro transactions in it. If I have, they weren't significant and so I never bothered with them.

If idiots want to waste their money on this game, let them. There are plenty of other games to play. You don't need this game

The fear is more that of people quietly bend over and take this then it'll gradually seep into other franchises and other games as well and become the norm. Companies like this have repeatedly shown if you give an inch they take a mile. Remember when EA implemented online passes for games? A shitty thing nobody wanted and the only reason they did is because of bitching.
Look at paid mods as another example.
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RE_expert44
11/13/17 7:45:47 AM
#208:


How long until they get shadow banned?
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 7:46:32 AM
#209:


you guys supported dlc already. you only have yourselves to blame for this mess of an industry you created.
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superstud69x
11/13/17 7:49:11 AM
#210:


Sitting at -212K right now. That's more than all the other lowest karma scores put together. Yikes
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foreveraIone
11/13/17 7:49:53 AM
#211:


Rika_Furude posted...
you guys supported dlc already. you only have yourselves to blame for this mess of an industry you created.

you're right. all of those dead or alive costumes I bought were a bad decision.

oh well

*deeds to mila and ayane in skimpy outfits*
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LLKoolJosh
11/13/17 7:51:19 AM
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Two_Dee
11/13/17 7:57:27 AM
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Gamer99z
11/13/17 8:00:09 AM
#214:


Rika_Furude posted...
you guys supported dlc already. you only have yourselves to blame for this mess of an industry you created.

DLC can be great and there's no reason for it to inherently be hated.

> Game is made
> People love game
> People finish game
> People want more game
> Devs can expand on the game they've already made to give players more now since a dev cycle for a sequel can take years.

Nobody sits down and plays Undead Nightmare, The Ballad of Gay Tony/The Lost and Damned, Shivering Isles, Citadel, etc. and thinks "wow these fucking greedy companies just wanted more money!" They were great base game experiences that offered a quality expansion to that experience at a reasonable price. There's nothing wrong with that.
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psvitantifail
11/13/17 8:08:31 AM
#215:


15CjAa7

God damn.
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 8:09:51 AM
#216:


Gamer99z posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
you guys supported dlc already. you only have yourselves to blame for this mess of an industry you created.

DLC can be great and there's no reason for it to inherently be hated.

> Game is made
> People love game
> People finish game
> People want more game
> Devs can expand on the game they've already made to give players more now since a dev cycle for a sequel can take years.

Nobody sits down and plays Undead Nightmare, The Ballad of Gay Tony/The Lost and Damned, Shivering Isles, Citadel, etc. and thinks "wow these fucking greedy companies just wanted more money!" They were great base game experiences that offered a quality expansion to that experience at a reasonable price. There's nothing wrong with that.

Correction: expansion packs are great. War of the chosen is a great recent example of this. 99% of dlc is not great
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l Dudeboy l
11/13/17 8:12:04 AM
#217:


Rika_Furude posted...
you guys supported dlc already. you only have yourselves to blame for this mess of an industry you created.


The Internet has been fairly vocal of their dislike for microtransactions and lootboxes. I think the majority of the blame goes to the whales and casuals who play things like Ultimate Team.
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Funkydog
11/13/17 8:13:47 AM
#218:


A_Good_Boy posted...

They're the same exact thing once the topic is about video games. Gamers have demonstrated time and time again that all their blustering is worthless cause they just go out and buy the game they're upset about anyways

This, sadly. And even just a few whales will keep it in existence. So doubt anything will change
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 8:14:32 AM
#219:


Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"
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marc55
11/13/17 8:17:03 AM
#220:


JE19426 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
What the fucks is government supposed to do?


I imagine they want the government to ban or restrict the practices they dislike.

like making free characters ingame hard to unlock >_<
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Funkydog
11/13/17 8:18:07 AM
#221:


marc55 posted...
JE19426 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
What the fucks is government supposed to do?


I imagine they want the government to ban or restrict the practices they dislike.

like making free characters ingame hard to unlock >_<

At least classify the gambling stuff as gambling and restrict it properly
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xBloodBrotherx
11/13/17 8:18:16 AM
#222:


Rika_Furude posted...
Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"

You must visit weird places on the internet then because they're universally shit on. The only break I've seen people give is for things like Overwatch where it's 100% cosmetic items.
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RE_expert44
11/13/17 8:18:23 AM
#223:


Loot boxes are another increasingly bad thing. People used to throw the old "you can buy them using in game money" excuse. But now it's reaching the point where it takes 40 hours of hardcore playing to get a loot box.
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 8:19:33 AM
#224:


xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"

You must visit weird places on the internet then because they're universally shit on. The only break I've seen people give is for things like Overwatch where it's 100% cosmetic items.

Weird places like gamefaqs and reddit
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St0rmFury
11/13/17 8:21:02 AM
#225:


Another good example of DLCs done right is Helldivers, which I have spent over 800 hrs on.

>Game is made
>People love it
>Expansions being planned
>Devs reached out to the community for ideas on new gear/vehicles
>The community responded
>Implement ideas in the form of DLC
>DLC is not necessarily superior to base gear, most are just side-grades and offer different methods to complete objectives
>Sell all DLCs in a convenient bundle during sales
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marc55
11/13/17 8:32:45 AM
#226:


RE_expert44 posted...
Loot boxes are another increasingly bad thing. People used to throw the old "you can buy them using in game money" excuse. But now it's reaching the point where it takes 40 hours of hardcore playing to get a loot box.


isnt this topic about star wars battlefront 2 ?

people here are complaining about grinding to unlock the vader and others with the credits without using the loot box
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LordRazziel
11/13/17 8:33:33 AM
#227:


It would be cool if an employee leaked some of their market research documents.
I bet many of them are nefarious as fuck. That would be something that would be hard for them to recover from.
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stoltenberg11
11/13/17 8:34:50 AM
#228:


Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"

You must visit weird places on the internet then because they're universally shit on. The only break I've seen people give is for things like Overwatch where it's 100% cosmetic items.

Weird places like gamefaqs and reddit

lol quit lying
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AlisLandale
11/13/17 8:37:48 AM
#229:


LordRazziel posted...
It would be cool if an employee leaked some of their market research documents.
I bet many of them are nefarious as fuck. That would be something that would be hard for them to recover from.


I mean the gaming industry already admits these shits are designed to be as psychologically addictive as possible.

Not sure you can get more nefarious than "Yes, our strategy is exactly the same as the cigarette industry"
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Error1355
11/13/17 8:38:32 AM
#230:


Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"

You must visit weird places on the internet then because they're universally shit on. The only break I've seen people give is for things like Overwatch where it's 100% cosmetic items.

Weird places like gamefaqs and reddit

You are aware this is a GameFAQs topic literally about praising that a reddit post about lootboxes is being downvoted more than any other comment ever on the entirety of reddit, right?
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Mikablu
11/13/17 8:40:06 AM
#231:


Holy shit. it's at -242K and counting now.
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marc55
11/13/17 8:42:26 AM
#232:


will they be able to tell how many of those are bots ? probably only around 2000 are real votes (because i doubt that reddit is that active )
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LordRazziel
11/13/17 8:43:54 AM
#233:


Error1355 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"

You must visit weird places on the internet then because they're universally shit on. The only break I've seen people give is for things like Overwatch where it's 100% cosmetic items.

Weird places like gamefaqs and reddit

You are aware this is a topic literally about a reddit post about lootboxes being downvoted more than any other comment ever on the entirety of reddit, right?

It's Rika...
Has he ever said anything valid?
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 8:48:37 AM
#234:


Error1355 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"

You must visit weird places on the internet then because they're universally shit on. The only break I've seen people give is for things like Overwatch where it's 100% cosmetic items.

Weird places like gamefaqs and reddit

You are aware this is a GameFAQs topic literally about praising that a reddit post about lootboxes is being downvoted more than any other comment ever on the entirety of reddit, right?

First ive ever seen. Theres literally people itt praising "sidegrades" as "dlc done right"
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Rika_Furude
11/13/17 8:49:07 AM
#235:


And here comes the mindless flaming from razziel...
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thelovefist
11/13/17 8:50:52 AM
#236:


LordRazziel posted...
Error1355 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"

You must visit weird places on the internet then because they're universally shit on. The only break I've seen people give is for things like Overwatch where it's 100% cosmetic items.

Weird places like gamefaqs and reddit

You are aware this is a topic literally about a reddit post about lootboxes being downvoted more than any other comment ever on the entirety of reddit, right?

It's Rika...
Has he ever said anything valid?

I never have.
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UnfairRepresent
11/13/17 8:52:35 AM
#237:


pinky0926 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
If you say so. Sounds like free advertising to me


At this point they're trying to mitigate a PR disaster, not spread brand awareness.

You mean like the pr disaster that cod trailer a while back caused that led to record breaking preorders and the series still going

This gAme is going to make bank. In this case all publicity is good
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marc55
11/13/17 8:53:52 AM
#238:


i dont understand people always complain about lootboxes only stuff saying it should be unlockable ingame

this game has both
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LordRazziel
11/13/17 8:55:42 AM
#239:


Rika_Furude posted...
And here comes the mindless flaming from razziel...


uB4ig9V
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rhklce
11/13/17 8:55:52 AM
#240:


Oh, man. You mean to tell me I get to drop $80 on the game and have the privilege of being able to spend MORE money to unlock things faster?!

Fuck yeah, dudes. Sign me up!
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Ic3Bullet
11/13/17 8:59:15 AM
#241:


-250k. lol
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pres_madagascar
11/13/17 9:02:15 AM
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Mikablu
11/13/17 9:02:40 AM
#243:


pres_madagascar posted...
Ic3Bullet posted...
-250k. lol

Is this a record?

Easily.

Edit: -255k now.
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pres_madagascar
11/13/17 9:04:43 AM
#244:


The hilarity is that the mods locked the thread 15 hours ago for harassing the ea dev. Downvote still possible and still going strong though lol
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RE_expert44
11/13/17 9:05:13 AM
#245:


pres_madagascar posted...
Ic3Bullet posted...
-250k. lol

Is this a record?

I think it's like 10 times the record
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Mikablu
11/13/17 9:07:29 AM
#246:


XD I just noticed that that comment was gifted Gold 12 times.
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Ic3Bullet
11/13/17 9:10:44 AM
#247:


I'm going to pre-order the game just to cancel it now.
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Gamer99z
11/13/17 9:11:36 AM
#248:


Error1355 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Ive seen nothing but support for loot boxes and dlc pretty much everywhere except some places like totalbiscuits channel

Loot boxes get washed away as "you can earn everything ingame who cares if its pay to win"

You must visit weird places on the internet then because they're universally shit on. The only break I've seen people give is for things like Overwatch where it's 100% cosmetic items.

Weird places like gamefaqs and reddit

You are aware this is a GameFAQs topic literally about praising that a reddit post about lootboxes is being downvoted more than any other comment ever on the entirety of reddit, right?

Shit I just choked on my drink
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Dustin1280
11/13/17 9:14:14 AM
#249:


-260k 12x guilded, xD
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Funkydog
11/13/17 9:20:59 AM
#250:


UnfairRepresent posted...
pinky0926 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
If you say so. Sounds like free advertising to me


At this point they're trying to mitigate a PR disaster, not spread brand awareness.

You mean like the pr disaster that cod trailer a while back caused that led to record breaking preorders and the series still going

This gAme is going to make bank. In this case all publicity is good

Pretty much.

Nothing is going to change when it continues to make them more and more money than ever before.
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KarmaMuffin
11/13/17 10:08:12 AM
#251:


sylverlolol posted...
You're literally the only person I've seen say this. Not calling you a fibber but...

Angry Joe interview talks about how challenges are the main source of income, and if you look at the 'season roadmap' that shows the The Last Jedi DLC coming in December it shows even more challenges and talks about 'weekly challenges'

stoltenberg11 posted...
The devs said themselves that they accelerated the credit earning during beta testing so they could have more data to work with instead of having people never be able ot unlock certain expensive things

Origin Access is not the beta

Don't get me wrong, the stock PR response that ignores criticism and the devs commenting on meme posts but avoiding the other responses is shit and deserves to be called out. I'd love it if the credits were increased, but I feel like it's not so much as "greedy publisher forces developer to make lite-gambling pay2win mobile-game esque BS" as far as "we want to keep the players engaged for a long time and we will do that in part by staggering the players ability to progress with just time and incentivise them with weekly challenges"

It would just be nice to have them actually address the concerns instead of me looking like an apologist when I am not happy with them
That being said, even if I'm wrong and it's a grindy BS mobile game type of thing, it's still one of the most fun non-competitive shooters I have ever played and it really does capture the essence of Star Wars atmosphere, and for that I'm still gonna play because it's a fucking blast.
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josifrees
11/13/17 10:11:23 AM
#252:


Its now at almost -300000 and good riddance. Fuck them
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