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ChainedRedone
11/09/17 10:27:10 PM
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It breaks the story of Zelda I feel like. It's more of a spin-off than a true canon Zelda.
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TheDarkCircle
11/09/17 10:28:40 PM
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zelda canon lol
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SlashmanSG
11/09/17 10:30:24 PM
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"We need something that will feel like a true successor of the series"

"How about laser bombs?"

"My god, Johnson..."
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DarthAragorn
11/09/17 10:32:43 PM
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ganon fucking sucks in it and its so far removed from any previous game it may as well be
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masticatingman
11/09/17 10:33:34 PM
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The Zelda timeline doesn't make any sense at all so you're reaching.
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BLAKUboy
11/09/17 10:33:38 PM
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Yeah, pretty sure they just gave up on the idea of a timeline when they made this game.
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Youngster_Joey_
11/09/17 10:33:59 PM
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Don't worry, in about 5 years Nintendo will reveal it's the 4th timeline that came about when Link died in Twilight Princess instead of winning.
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FrenchCrunch
11/09/17 10:35:06 PM
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smh when we gonna get a real ganon/ganondorf again
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D-Lo_BrownTown
11/09/17 10:37:59 PM
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Here's the most accurate Zelda timeline.

Timeline 1:

Legend of Zelda - Zelda 2 - Oh shit we don't care anymore start over

Timeline 2:

Link to the Past - Links Awakening - Oh shit, fuck this, start over.

Timeline 3:

Ocarina of Time - Majoras Mask - Wind Waker - Oh shit everybody hates this lets start over and make Ocarina of Time again.

Timeline 4:

Twilight Princess - Oh fuck, they didn't like this either. Time to start over.

Timeline 5:

Skyward Sword - Shit WTF were we thinking, no overworld? I know, let's start over and make the whole damn game Overworld!

Timeline 6:

Breath of the Wild

Timeline 7:

Nobody should give a fuck about handheld games place
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ChainedRedone
11/09/17 11:37:33 PM
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Good to see the people that disagree have no argument.
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Bad_Mojo
11/09/17 11:38:27 PM
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Duh, you should have caught then when they have a Right-Handed Link
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s0nicfan
11/09/17 11:39:36 PM
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This game is the most true "Zelda" title since LttP. What are you smoking, tc?
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REMercsChamp
11/09/17 11:39:49 PM
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You've got it backwards actually - this game is the only one that's canon and the rest are non-canon
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Bad_Mojo
11/09/17 11:40:24 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This game is the most true "Zelda" title since LttP. What are you smoking, tc?


Mother fucker is Right-Handed and Link is Left-Handed.

Checkmate, atheist
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Questionmarktarius
11/09/17 11:41:24 PM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
zelda canon lol

This.

The best timeline is the "whatever" one.
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s0nicfan
11/09/17 11:41:46 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This game is the most true "Zelda" title since LttP. What are you smoking, tc?


Mother fucker is Right-Handed and Link is Left-Handed.

Checkmate, atheist


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SlashmanSG
11/09/17 11:42:02 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
This game is the most true "Zelda" title since LttP. What are you smoking, tc?

...wow.
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Bad_Mojo
11/09/17 11:42:53 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This game is the most true "Zelda" title since LttP. What are you smoking, tc?


Mother fucker is Right-Handed and Link is Left-Handed.

Checkmate, atheist


http://www.retrogames.cz/games/068/NES_01.gif


Only from that side. Link has to keep his Shied facing Death Mountain
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s0nicfan
11/09/17 11:43:11 PM
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SlashmanSG posted...
s0nicfan posted...
This game is the most true "Zelda" title since LttP. What are you smoking, tc?

...wow.


The original Legend of Zelda was based on Miyamoto's childhood of exploring the woods behind his house and going on adventures. Directionless exploring and the ability to do things in your own order was the entire foundation of the series.
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Life Sympathy
11/09/17 11:45:47 PM
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Just treat it like an Anthology series at this point.
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Bad_Mojo
11/09/17 11:52:31 PM
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Ricemills
11/09/17 11:54:14 PM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
zelda canon lol

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s0nicfan
11/09/17 11:54:50 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
My whole life has been a lie. . .


lol. It's okay, you can still pretend that Star Fox has robot legs because his real ones were amputated to make him a better pilot.
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Darmik
11/10/17 12:07:31 AM
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They're Legends. Any contradictions are because the details were lost when the tales were told to future generations.
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Axiom
11/10/17 12:09:55 AM
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TheDarkCircle posted...
zelda canon lol

So happy this was second post. People that argue zelda canon are insufferable
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ChainedRedone
11/10/17 12:14:11 AM
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Axiom posted...
TheDarkCircle posted...
zelda canon lol

So happy this was second post. People that argue zelda canon are insufferable


I know, give or take 5 years, the amount of years between every game, including CDi games (which are NOT canon).
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BLAKUboy
11/10/17 1:43:01 PM
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Axiom posted...
TheDarkCircle posted...
zelda canon lol

So happy this was second post. People that argue zelda canon are insufferable

Better than the people that seriously argue Pokemon canon.
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Banjo2553
11/10/17 1:43:48 PM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Don't worry, in about 5 years Nintendo will reveal it's the 4th timeline that came about when Link died in Twilight Princess instead of winning.

Actually it'll be the timeline where Link dies in Zelda 2 rather than wins.
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ArchiePeck
11/10/17 1:47:27 PM
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When the timeline of a series involves retrofitting splits where different things happened in certain games and it branches off from there, you know it's a ****ing joke.
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ManLink4321
11/10/17 1:48:36 PM
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ArchiePeck posted...
When the timeline of a series involves retrofitting splits where different things happened in certain games and it branches off from there, you know it's a ****ing joke.

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Jiggy101011
11/10/17 1:49:30 PM
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Ocarina and Majoras Mask are the only 2 connected right? Arent the rest just same name different universe kind of thing?
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BLAKUboy
11/10/17 1:52:23 PM
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Jiggy101011 posted...
Ocarina and Majoras Mask are the only 2 connected right? Arent the rest just same name different universe kind of thing?

Zelda/AoL, OoT/MM, WW/PH/ST, and LttP/LBW all have direct connections. The entire series though has been more loosely connected via an expansive timeline, though a game's placement in said timeline is usually an afterthought for the developers. But BotW has no real way of fitting in on the timeline, at least not as we know it.
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ChainedRedone
11/10/17 1:52:24 PM
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lol @ calling zelda canon a joke. I can understand calling Mario canon a joke (though even that's debatable).
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BLAKUboy
11/10/17 1:54:17 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
lol @ calling zelda canon a joke. I can understand calling Mario canon a joke (though even that's debatable).

It became a joke when they created some idiotic "Link dies in OoT" split for the timeline because they couldn't be assed to figure out how the pre-OoT games could fit.
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TheVipaGTS
11/10/17 2:20:03 PM
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none of Zelda is Cannon. They're just games that happen to feature the same characters.
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Banjo2553
11/10/17 3:34:14 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
none of Zelda is Cannon. They're just games that happen to feature the same characters.

Except for games that actually reference past games, of course.
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dr_zomberg
11/10/17 3:36:57 PM
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outside majoras mask. no zelda game feels "canon".

but its a moot poin because breath totally is.
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DarthAragorn
11/10/17 3:39:38 PM
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TP and WW both are clear sequels to OoT
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tremain07
11/10/17 3:43:21 PM
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lol at people thinking Nintendo gives a rats ass about what is and isn't canon, their official stance on Mario lore is that each game is a fucking play put on by the characters and they're all basically cartoon actors, Sega is too stupid to care about Sonic canon,too, back to Nintendo, Kirby canon, Pokemon canon, Fire Emblem canon and Metroid,Kid Icarus and Star Fox canon are all dodgy and loose as fuck.
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ChromaticAngel
11/10/17 3:47:05 PM
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The chronological flow of the plot across all the Zelda games is about as cohesive as the chronological flow of David Lynch's Lost Highway
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Solar_Crimson
11/10/17 4:04:04 PM
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Jiggy101011 posted...
Ocarina and Majoras Mask are the only 2 connected right? Arent the rest just same name different universe kind of thing?

Not quite.

Skyward Sword is at the beginning, followed by Minish Cap, and then Ocarina of Time. There's a split in Ocarina of Time, where one leads to Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess, while the other leads to Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks; that split was already well-known and people accepted that. However, what's been a hard pill for many to swallow is the third split, where Link dies against Ganon in OoT, which leads to A Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, the Oracle games, the original LoZ, and Zelda 2.

Breath of the Wild's timeline placement can't really be determined, since it borrows elements from all three timelines, and I doubt the devs even took the timeline into consideration when making the game.
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ChromaticAngel
11/10/17 4:15:36 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Breath of the Wild's timeline placement can't really be determined, since it borrows elements from all three timelines, and I doubt the devs even took the timeline into consideration when making the game.


The timeline is inconsistent within itself. Why does an adult or downfall timeline even exist? If ganondorf was captured and defeated in TP before he could actually do anything nefarious, then all of OoT + anything that branches out of it never fucking happened except Twilight Princess.
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Solar_Crimson
11/10/17 4:22:37 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Breath of the Wild's timeline placement can't really be determined, since it borrows elements from all three timelines, and I doubt the devs even took the timeline into consideration when making the game.


The timeline is inconsistent within itself. Why does an adult or downfall timeline even exist? If ganondorf was captured and defeated in TP before he could actually do anything nefarious, then all of OoT + anything that branches out of it never fucking happened except Twilight Princess.

Twilight Princess follows the Child timeline, where Ganondorf is exposed and banished to the Twilight Realm. The Adult timeline follows the defeat of Ganon in the future, where he's banished but returns, but Link is nowhere to be found because he was sent back to the past to live out his childhood (in the Child timeline), which leads to Wind Waker.

I guess it's a common trope with time travel plots where a split is made somewhere that preserves the events of both timelines, lest a paradox is created.
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ChromaticAngel
11/10/17 4:33:20 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Twilight Princess follows the Child timeline, where Ganondorf is exposed and banished to the Twilight Realm. The Adult timeline follows the defeat of Ganon in the future, where he's banished but returns, but Link is nowhere to be found because he was sent back to the past to live out his childhood (in the Child timeline), which leads to Wind Waker.

I guess it's a common trope with time travel plots where a split is made somewhere that preserves the events of both timelines, lest a paradox is created.


He's banished but returns how, exactly?

Because when he returns in TP he gets his shit wrecked in.

There are no time travel elements beyond the temple of time. There are several years in which events are fixed and cannot be altered, however, the fact that TP exists means the master sword was never removed from the temple of time which means Ganondorf was banished and stayed banished until TP.

I mean you and I both know the real answer is TLoZ / AoL / LttP / Wind Waker / etc were all created before Twilight Princess was made where it explicitly shows us Ganondorf being trapped and not escaping until the events of Twilight Princess.
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DoctorVader
11/10/17 4:35:10 PM
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The timelines converged somehow probably because of the power of Demise/Ganon.

Or rather, all three are the same because you can never stop this fuck and he'll keep returning so shit always stays the same.
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TheVipaGTS
11/10/17 4:43:01 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
none of Zelda is Cannon. They're just games that happen to feature the same characters.

Except for games that actually reference past games, of course.

Which seems to constantly change from game to game. Im not saying its a bad thing. Its just the way Zelda is.
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ChromaticAngel
11/10/17 4:55:22 PM
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DoctorVader posted...
The timelines converged somehow probably because of the power of Demise/Ganon.

Or rather, all three are the same because you can never stop this fuck and he'll keep returning so shit always stays the same.


Fuck Demise that shit entire game is basically just bad fanfiction.

Everything made so much more sense when it was just Link / Zelda / Ganon
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