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KazumaKiryu
11/05/17 11:40:53 PM
#253:


What I'm reading is that his Facebook page liked atheist, SJW pages, and CNN. It's pretty cut and dry why he decided to go kill churchgoers. It's really offensive that people on this board are trying to deny that.
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CADE FOSTER
11/05/17 11:53:04 PM
#254:


Rip we need stricter gun laws people need to get mental health checks before being allowed a gun
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Darmik
11/06/17 12:03:31 AM
#255:


KazumaKiryu posted...
What I'm reading is that his Facebook page liked atheist, SJW pages, and CNN. It's pretty cut and dry why he decided to go kill churchgoers. It's really offensive that people on this board are trying to deny that.


Reading from where
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pres_madagascar
11/06/17 12:04:49 AM
#256:


Dragonblade01 posted...
It's enough to make you wonder if we're becoming more and more unhinged.

No shit we are
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KazumaKiryu
11/06/17 12:25:56 AM
#257:


Darmik posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What I'm reading is that his Facebook page liked atheist, SJW pages, and CNN. It's pretty cut and dry why he decided to go kill churchgoers. It's really offensive that people on this board are trying to deny that.


Reading from where


Actually they're getting this from his LinkedIn page.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-kelley-bb2923b9
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The Great Muta 22
11/06/17 12:27:56 AM
#258:


KazumaKiryu posted...
Darmik posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What I'm reading is that his Facebook page liked atheist, SJW pages, and CNN. It's pretty cut and dry why he decided to go kill churchgoers. It's really offensive that people on this board are trying to deny that.


Reading from where


Actually they're getting this from his LinkedIn page.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-kelley-bb2923b9


What on there matches your claims?
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KazumaKiryu
11/06/17 12:37:27 AM
#259:


I will add as well that he was dishonorably discharged from the military, which means he could not legally obtain a gun. That's important to note.

It's very obvious what this man did today. He went out murdering Christians.
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Darmik
11/06/17 12:38:52 AM
#260:


KazumaKiryu posted...
Darmik posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What I'm reading is that his Facebook page liked atheist, SJW pages, and CNN. It's pretty cut and dry why he decided to go kill churchgoers. It's really offensive that people on this board are trying to deny that.


Reading from where


Actually they're getting this from his LinkedIn page.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-kelley-bb2923b9


Says there he taught bible school
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KazumaKiryu
11/06/17 12:39:28 AM
#261:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Darmik posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What I'm reading is that his Facebook page liked atheist, SJW pages, and CNN. It's pretty cut and dry why he decided to go kill churchgoers. It's really offensive that people on this board are trying to deny that.


Reading from where


Actually they're getting this from his LinkedIn page.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-kelley-bb2923b9


What on there matches your claims?


Causes devin cares about:
Animal Welfare
Arts and Culture
Children
Civil Rights and Social Action
Environment
Health
Human Rights


Is that clear enough for you?
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Axiom
11/06/17 12:40:09 AM
#262:


KazumaKiryu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Darmik posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What I'm reading is that his Facebook page liked atheist, SJW pages, and CNN. It's pretty cut and dry why he decided to go kill churchgoers. It's really offensive that people on this board are trying to deny that.


Reading from where


Actually they're getting this from his LinkedIn page.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-kelley-bb2923b9


What on there matches your claims?


Causes devin cares about:
Animal Welfare
Arts and Culture
Children
Civil Rights and Social Action
Environment
Health
Human Rights


Is that clear enough for you?

Lol what. How is that proof that he wanted to murder christians
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metralo
11/06/17 12:41:04 AM
#263:


KazumaKiryu posted...
Animal Welfare
Arts and Culture
Children
Civil Rights and Social Action
Environment
Health
Human Rights


the alt-right literally thinks these are bad things

w0w
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CiIantro
11/06/17 12:42:06 AM
#264:


metralo posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Animal Welfare
Arts and Culture
Children
Civil Rights and Social Action
Environment
Health
Human Rights


the right literally thinks these are bad things

w0w


ftfy
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Schwarber
11/06/17 12:42:49 AM
#265:


Axiom posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Darmik posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What I'm reading is that his Facebook page liked atheist, SJW pages, and CNN. It's pretty cut and dry why he decided to go kill churchgoers. It's really offensive that people on this board are trying to deny that.


Reading from where


Actually they're getting this from his LinkedIn page.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-kelley-bb2923b9


What on there matches your claims?


Causes devin cares about:
Animal Welfare
Arts and Culture
Children
Civil Rights and Social Action
Environment
Health
Human Rights


Is that clear enough for you?

Lol what. How is that proof that he wanted to murder christians


I cant believe hes considering that SJW stuff, what the hell...
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KazumaKiryu
11/06/17 12:43:30 AM
#266:


metralo posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Animal Welfare
Arts and Culture
Children
Civil Rights and Social Action
Environment
Health
Human Rights


the alt-right literally thinks these are bad things

w0w


He murdered a church full of people.
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CiIantro
11/06/17 12:43:45 AM
#267:


Schwarber posted...
I cant believe hes considering that SJW stuff, what the hell...

Just another conservative extremist. Move along before he starts blaming the shooting on Hillary.
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Bio1590
11/06/17 12:48:00 AM
#268:


Is Kazuma Madfoot? Because then thinking "civil rights" is "sjw" stuff makes a lot of sense.
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Axiom
11/06/17 12:48:59 AM
#269:


Bio1590 posted...
Is Kazuma Madfoot? Because then thinking "civil rights" is "sjw" stuff makes a lot of sense.

Ohhhh that makes sense. He liked to name his alts after fictional characters and his posts are just as insane as madfoot's
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Bio1590
11/06/17 12:55:18 AM
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I don't know if it is, I just know he's running around and I forget the account name right now.

Karma might be a tad high to be a Madfoot account
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ArchiePeck
11/06/17 1:10:26 AM
#271:


So... are we going to start restricting the freedoms of both Muslims and white males with known mental health issues until we "can get a handle on this problem"?
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SamusGlory
11/06/17 2:38:48 AM
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CocteauQuadrplt
11/06/17 2:40:51 AM
#273:


Kelley - sounds Irish. Wonder if Trump is going to put Ireland on his ban list
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DezCaughtIt
11/06/17 7:55:35 AM
#274:


KazumaKiryu posted...
I will add as well that he was dishonorably discharged from the military, which means he could not legally obtain a gun. That's important to note.


Yet reports say he bought the weapon used in the attacks at an Academy Sports.

http://www.businessinsider.com/texas-church-gunman-devin-patrick-gun-law-felon-domestic-violence-2017-11

Military members dishonorably discharged cannot legally purchase a gun, but Kelley's bad conduct discharge falls just short of that mark.

However, Kelley's charges assault against his wife and child likely qualify as domestic violence, and could legally disqualifies a citizen from gun ownership.

But even if the assault charges didn't technically go down as domestic violence, assault can be treated as a felony, which should preclude gun ownership. And even if the charges didn't go down as felonies, the twin charges carried a maxium sentence of over a year in prison, and therefore should preclude gun ownership.

On the federal government's firearm transaction record, which buyers must legally fill out, Kelley would have had to state that he had never been convicted of a felony. Both Kelley's assault counts likely went down as felonies. Lying on the firearms transaction record is an additional felony punishable by up to five years in jail.

Kelley bought a Ruger AR-556 rifle, used in the attack on the church in Sutherland Springs, in April 2016 from an Academy Sports & Outdoors store in San Antonio, a law enforcement official told CNN.


Article quoted:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/devin-kelly-texas-church-shooting-suspect/index.html

Anyone else want to argue that point?
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Paragon21XX
11/06/17 8:13:08 AM
#275:


DezCaughtIt posted...
Article quoted:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/devin-kelly-texas-church-shooting-suspect/index.html

Anyone else want to argue that point?

So what potentially went wrong is that if he indeed had disqualifying history before being kicked from the armed forces as a bad conduct discharge rather than dishonorably discharged which is the only military discharge that automatically disqualifies former servicemen from owning guns, then the Air Force failed to report it to NICS properly and that's why he was able to purchase a gun as it would have raised a red flag immediately despite lying on the forms.

If his domestic violence against his family was not considered disqualifying (BCD alone does not disqualify gun ownership), then we simply need to up the standards for what's considered crimes that disqualify one from owning guns, perhaps including bad conduct discharges for violent behavior.
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Bio1590
11/06/17 8:15:38 AM
#276:


SamusGlory posted...
http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-devin-kelley-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-texas-2017-11

Looks exactly like a person you'd expect to show up at a "free speech" protest to "defend free speech"
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BLAKUboy
11/06/17 11:07:33 AM
#277:


I thought JoeyBowey was Madfoot.
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Bishop9800
11/06/17 12:47:24 PM
#278:


I'm surprised that Captain Circus isn't on here talking about how much scum this person is like he did with the guy in Tennessee. I wonder why????
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CocteauQuadrplt
11/06/17 12:49:17 PM
#279:


Bishop9800 posted...
I'm surprised that Captain Circus isn't on here talking about how much scum this person is like he did with the guy in Tennessee. I wonder why????


Hmmm... *thinks really hard about it*

Damn, I can't find any reason. Is their a major physical difference between the two guys appearance or something?
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Bishop9800
11/06/17 12:51:59 PM
#280:


CocteauQuadrplt posted...

Hmmm... *thinks really hard about it*

Damn, I can't find any reason. Is their a major physical difference between the two guys appearance or something?


Hmmmm........ could be!!!
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/06/17 12:52:23 PM
#281:


We NEED stronger gun control.
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FrenchCrunch
11/06/17 12:53:45 PM
#282:


this happened less than 30 miles from where i live. hm
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Cheater87
11/06/17 4:48:26 PM
#283:


I read a lot of the dead were children. :(
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Axiom
11/06/17 4:51:34 PM
#284:


DezCaughtIt posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
I will add as well that he was dishonorably discharged from the military, which means he could not legally obtain a gun. That's important to note.


Yet reports say he bought the weapon used in the attacks at an Academy Sports.

http://www.businessinsider.com/texas-church-gunman-devin-patrick-gun-law-felon-domestic-violence-2017-11

Military members dishonorably discharged cannot legally purchase a gun, but Kelley's bad conduct discharge falls just short of that mark.

However, Kelley's charges assault against his wife and child likely qualify as domestic violence, and could legally disqualifies a citizen from gun ownership.

But even if the assault charges didn't technically go down as domestic violence, assault can be treated as a felony, which should preclude gun ownership. And even if the charges didn't go down as felonies, the twin charges carried a maxium sentence of over a year in prison, and therefore should preclude gun ownership.

On the federal government's firearm transaction record, which buyers must legally fill out, Kelley would have had to state that he had never been convicted of a felony. Both Kelley's assault counts likely went down as felonies. Lying on the firearms transaction record is an additional felony punishable by up to five years in jail.

Kelley bought a Ruger AR-556 rifle, used in the attack on the church in Sutherland Springs, in April 2016 from an Academy Sports & Outdoors store in San Antonio, a law enforcement official told CNN.


Article quoted:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/devin-kelly-texas-church-shooting-suspect/index.html

Anyone else want to argue that point?

That's messed up and even if he didn't obtain it that way he still could have gotten it from a private sale which is unregulated in Texas and other states. This is why gun laws and regulations need to be re-evaluated
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ChainedRedone
11/07/17 8:19:42 AM
#285:


He was able to purchase legally because the Air Force did not submit his discharge to a national database. Even if he couldn't purchase a gun, he could easily get one from a private seller thanks to no law mandating background checks. But gun nuts will still reject background checks because it infringes on their right to be a felon and own guns or something.
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Phantom_Nook
11/07/17 9:27:56 AM
#286:


Fox News host says it's fine to get shot in a church.

http://reverepress.com/news/fox-church-best-place-get-shot-close-to-jesus/
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_OujiDoza_
11/07/17 10:27:05 AM
#287:


Phantom_Nook posted...
Fox News host says it's fine to get shot in a church.

http://reverepress.com/news/fox-church-best-place-get-shot-close-to-jesus/

The most Fox news-iest thing to ever Fox news...
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billcom6
11/07/17 7:24:28 PM
#288:


You guys he was an ATHEIST ANTIFA terrorist, I just saw it on twitter!!!
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/07/17 8:03:47 PM
#289:


if I got shot, I'd prefer it be next to Jesus.
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