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Phantom_Nook
11/05/17 7:52:00 PM
#203:


KarmaMuffin posted...
Fox is already talking about how they can't allow "Leftists" to control the narrative and politicize the tragedy to push gun control through.
Of course the attack in NYC managed to get all of them (with of course our president watching them every day) to politicize the visa lottery system, with literally the next day Trump announcing his intent to remove it.

Fucking hypocrites.

Of course they are. Republicans aren't known for common sense.
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tommybel89
11/05/17 7:54:12 PM
#204:


Rypt posted...
This one hit close to home for me. Right down the road.

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Axiom
11/05/17 7:55:46 PM
#205:


Phantom_Nook posted...
KarmaMuffin posted...
Fox is already talking about how they can't allow "Leftists" to control the narrative and politicize the tragedy to push gun control through.
Of course the attack in NYC managed to get all of them (with of course our president watching them every day) to politicize the visa lottery system, with literally the next day Trump announcing his intent to remove it.

Fucking hypocrites.

Of course they are. Republicans aren't known for common sense.

Yep. One of the dumbasses even fell for that stupid Sam Hyde nonsense
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/05/17 8:20:37 PM
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I don't even know what to say at this point. too much to say, but for what?
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KazumaKiryu
11/05/17 8:22:58 PM
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This is so fucked up.
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ThePrinceFish
11/05/17 8:24:37 PM
#208:


Axiom posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
KarmaMuffin posted...
Fox is already talking about how they can't allow "Leftists" to control the narrative and politicize the tragedy to push gun control through.
Of course the attack in NYC managed to get all of them (with of course our president watching them every day) to politicize the visa lottery system, with literally the next day Trump announcing his intent to remove it.

Fucking hypocrites.

Of course they are. Republicans aren't known for common sense.

Yep. One of the dumbasses even fell for that stupid Sam Hyde nonsense

Look up what party Vicente Gonzalez belongs to and reevaluate who the dumbass is.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/05/17 8:25:51 PM
#209:


ThePrinceFish posted...
Axiom posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
KarmaMuffin posted...
Fox is already talking about how they can't allow "Leftists" to control the narrative and politicize the tragedy to push gun control through.
Of course the attack in NYC managed to get all of them (with of course our president watching them every day) to politicize the visa lottery system, with literally the next day Trump announcing his intent to remove it.

Fucking hypocrites.

Of course they are. Republicans aren't known for common sense.

Yep. One of the dumbasses even fell for that stupid Sam Hyde nonsense

Look up what party Vicente Gonzalez belongs to and reevaluate who the dumbass is.


regardless of who that is, I'm pretty sure a deflection has never changed the truth
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ThePrinceFish
11/05/17 8:26:34 PM
#210:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
regardless of who that is, I'm pretty sure a deflection has never changed the truth

How is it a deflection to point out that his dumbass comment is blatantly wrong?
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Axiom
11/05/17 8:31:19 PM
#211:


ThePrinceFish posted...
Look up what party Vicente Gonzalez

Yeah that was my bad for going off a CE topic. Still doesn't change the fact Republicans are hypocritical dumbasses that will use tragedies to push agendas and then shame others for bringing up gun control when a mass murder occurs
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Sativa_Rose
11/05/17 8:33:22 PM
#212:


I would like to give my deepest condolences to the families. These tragedies are making me sick. I hate that we have developed this problem in our society. It's a copycat effect, people with problems see these mass shootings and end up being inspired to repeat them. It's messed up. It explains why these mass shooting at this scale were so much more rare back in the 70s and 80s even though it's not like they had more gun control back then (many states had less).
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ehhwhatever
11/05/17 8:35:19 PM
#213:


I'm pretty sure the shooter had gun control on his mind because people will be talking about him for a long time. Isn't anybody on this board somewhat pattern literate?
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Antifar
11/05/17 8:36:23 PM
#214:


ehhwhatever posted...
I'm pretty sure the shooter had gun control on his mind because people will be talking about him for a long time.

A dude killed twice as many people a month ago and he was out of the news by the end of the week. Any "false flag" predicated on getting lasting media attention in the Trump era is sorely misguided.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/05/17 8:38:57 PM
#215:


ThePrinceFish posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
regardless of who that is, I'm pretty sure a deflection has never changed the truth

How is it a deflection to point out that his dumbass comment is blatantly wrong?


I'm saying directing him to the correct dumbass doesn't change the fact that he was still talking about a dumbass in the end, lol. that's all.
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Anteaterking
11/05/17 8:41:23 PM
#216:


ehhwhatever posted...
I'm pretty sure the shooter had gun control on his mind because people will be talking about him for a long time. Isn't anybody on this board somewhat pattern literate?


Huh?
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ehhwhatever
11/05/17 8:41:53 PM
#217:


Antifar posted...
ehhwhatever posted...
I'm pretty sure the shooter had gun control on his mind because people will be talking about him for a long time.

A dude killed twice as many people a month ago and he was out of the news by the end of the week.

What was his motive? bingo
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Axiom
11/05/17 8:43:33 PM
#218:


Anteaterking posted...
ehhwhatever posted...
I'm pretty sure the shooter had gun control on his mind because people will be talking about him for a long time. Isn't anybody on this board somewhat pattern literate?


Huh?

I think his implication is that the shooter killed them for the sole purpose of bringing a light to gun control which sounds like a stupid conspiracy theory akin to disgusting Sandy Hook truthers who believed that it was committed by the government to push gun control
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MrTacoBell
11/05/17 8:43:51 PM
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Just saw a post on reddit about a user whose parents always wanted him to go to church. He always said no and now his parents are dead. Kinda sad even though his ending viewpoint is kinda offensive.
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Offworlder1
11/05/17 8:48:07 PM
#220:


@MrTacoBell

Well had they not been at church they might still be alive.

Still sad this asshole shot up a church and killed all those people.
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ehhwhatever
11/05/17 8:48:24 PM
#221:


Axiom posted...
Anteaterking posted...
ehhwhatever posted...
I'm pretty sure the shooter had gun control on his mind because people will be talking about him for a long time. Isn't anybody on this board somewhat pattern literate?


Huh?

I think his implication is that the shooter killed them for the sole purpose of bringing a light to gun control which sounds like a stupid conspiracy theory akin to disgusting Sandy Hook truthers who believed that it was committed by the government to push gun control

He wanted the fame, thats the motive, part of that is that people combine him and gun control and talk and talk and talk with him included. You don't understand his psychology, gun control made him super famous.
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_OujiDoza_
11/05/17 8:48:32 PM
#222:


Why hasn't the shooter's identity been released yet?
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Schwarber
11/05/17 8:52:18 PM
#223:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
Why hasn't the shooter's identity been released yet?


It has. Devin Kelley.
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ehhwhatever
11/05/17 8:52:55 PM
#224:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
Why hasn't the shooter's identity been released yet?

just google what is the identity of the texas church shooting, google is already prepared.
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Gamer99z
11/05/17 8:53:34 PM
#225:


Apparently he was in the Air Force
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KazumaKiryu
11/05/17 8:54:07 PM
#226:


You guys understand this is a hate crime against Christians, right? Nobody seems to be mentioning that.
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Samurontai
11/05/17 8:54:55 PM
#227:


KazumaKiryu posted...
You guys understand this is a hate crime against Christians, right? Nobody seems to be mentioning that.


How?
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Schwarber
11/05/17 8:54:56 PM
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hockeybub89
11/05/17 8:56:13 PM
#229:


Schwarber posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Why hasn't the shooter's identity been released yet?


It has. Devin Kelley.

White people are out of control. Merit-based citizenship now!
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Sativa_Rose
11/05/17 8:56:17 PM
#230:



CBS News reports that [Name of piece of shit shooter I won't repeat to give him fame] is a former U.S. Air Force member who served from 2010 to 2014. [Piece of shit] was dishonorably discharged and court martialed in May 2014 according to CBS News.

[Piece of shit] is believed to be the man who entered the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs and opened fire, killing 26 people and wounding several others. It is the deadliest shooting in the state's history.


http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2017/11/shooter_in_texas_church_shooti.html
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KazumaKiryu
11/05/17 8:56:51 PM
#231:


Samurontai posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
You guys understand this is a hate crime against Christians, right? Nobody seems to be mentioning that.


How?


Oh, because he massacred a church full of people there for Sunday mass! Like holy shit, you're really trying to act like it's not? What would you be saying if this was at a mosque?
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Samurontai
11/05/17 8:58:10 PM
#232:


KazumaKiryu posted...
Samurontai posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
You guys understand this is a hate crime against Christians, right? Nobody seems to be mentioning that.


How?


Oh, because he massacred a church full of people there for Sunday mass! Like holy shit, you're really trying to act like it's not? What would you be saying if this was at a mosque?


Yeah I'd be saying the same thing if it was a mosque, but that doesn't mean that your argument isn't still garbage
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Axiom
11/05/17 8:58:40 PM
#233:


Schwarber posted...
A hate crime against Christians by a Christian?

Who was also a bible study teacher apparently >_>

They haven't even said what they believe his motive was and there's no indication of whether it was a hate crime
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Samurontai
11/05/17 8:58:47 PM
#234:


Did the Las Vegas shooter commit a hate crime against rednecks or rock lovers or whatever?
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/05/17 9:01:03 PM
#235:


were they a rival church who had a better band or something?
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MrTacoBell
11/05/17 9:01:36 PM
#236:


Offworlder1 posted...
@MrTacoBell

Well had they not been at church they might still be alive.

Still sad this asshole shot up a church and killed all those people.


The posters ending message was along the lines of he wished his parents didn't believe in invisible man in the sky. They would still be alive. It was on the atheism sub.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/05/17 9:07:07 PM
#237:


Schwarber posted...
A hate crime against Christians by a Christian?


He was not a Christian. Looks like he was an atheist.
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The Great Muta 22
11/05/17 9:07:28 PM
#238:


Can't wait to see the Trumpkin conspiracy theorists attempts to spin this tragedy
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Samurontai
11/05/17 9:07:58 PM
#239:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Schwarber posted...
A hate crime against Christians by a Christian?


He was not a Christian. Looks like he was an atheist.


Tf kind of shit posting is this?

What happened to you actually trying Proudclad? Pls
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BLAKUboy
11/05/17 9:08:19 PM
#240:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Can't wait to see the Trumpkin conspiracy theorists attempts to spin this tragedy

It's already started. Apparently this is a hate crime.
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Schwarber
11/05/17 9:08:24 PM
#241:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Schwarber posted...
A hate crime against Christians by a Christian?


He was not a Christian. Looks like he was an atheist.


Source?
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hockeybub89
11/05/17 9:09:17 PM
#242:


MrTacoBell posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
@MrTacoBell

Well had they not been at church they might still be alive.

Still sad this asshole shot up a church and killed all those people.


The posters ending message was along the lines of he wished his parents didn't believe in invisible man in the sky. They would still be alive. It was on the atheism sub.

edit- went back to the sub. his post was deleted and the thread got locked over the offensive comments

https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/7azznq/church_shooting_in_texas_unknown_dead/

Tragedies like this prove there is no loving, all-powerful God.
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Anteaterking
11/05/17 9:11:09 PM
#243:


ehhwhatever posted...
Axiom posted...
Anteaterking posted...
ehhwhatever posted...
I'm pretty sure the shooter had gun control on his mind because people will be talking about him for a long time. Isn't anybody on this board somewhat pattern literate?


Huh?

I think his implication is that the shooter killed them for the sole purpose of bringing a light to gun control which sounds like a stupid conspiracy theory akin to disgusting Sandy Hook truthers who believed that it was committed by the government to push gun control

He wanted the fame, thats the motive, part of that is that people combine him and gun control and talk and talk and talk with him included. You don't understand his psychology, gun control made him super famous.


People would still be talking about the incident if he used something besides a gun.
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Sativa_Rose
11/05/17 9:13:44 PM
#244:


MrTacoBell posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
@MrTacoBell

Well had they not been at church they might still be alive.

Still sad this asshole shot up a church and killed all those people.


The posters ending message was along the lines of he wished his parents didn't believe in invisible man in the sky. They would still be alive. It was on the atheism sub.

edit- went back to the sub. his post was deleted and the thread got locked over the offensive comments

https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/7azznq/church_shooting_in_texas_unknown_dead/


Was there any proof at all that it was real in the first place?
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Dark_Spiret
11/05/17 9:16:03 PM
#245:


Schwarber posted...
Source?
dont have the links, but theres some facebook likes that points to possibly being an atheist. some of his other likes also seem more socialist in value.
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The Great Muta 22
11/05/17 9:21:00 PM
#246:


Dark_Spiret posted...
Schwarber posted...
Source?
dont have the links, but theres some facebook likes that points to possibly being an atheist. some of his other likes also seem more socialist in value.


Ultimately none of it should matter on either end, but it won't stop stupid fucking morons from using anything to make this a partisan issue
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OmegaPillow
11/05/17 9:50:08 PM
#247:


Stupid posters in this thread my god r.i.p the victims
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MushroomMuncher
11/05/17 9:56:15 PM
#248:


I mostly lurk but after what i've seen in this topic I have got to say none of you should be using this as a way to push your religious/atheist agenda. People are dead and you're sitting here saying "If only they were atheists they would still be alive". That's like saying about the people in Las Vegas "If only they didn't like music they would still be alive." Same goes for the rest of you calling him an atheist. It doesn't matter what he believed in, he was a piece of human shit. Its dumb, how about we focus on the real problem here?
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bloodydeath0
11/05/17 10:19:11 PM
#249:


A person in the church drew their firearm and fired back at the scumbag, which made him flee.

Interesting tidbit imo

He had an assault rifle though so I'm wondering how he got it. He was also "dishonorably discharged" from the military a few years ago.
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ScazarMeltex
11/05/17 10:59:07 PM
#250:


MushroomMuncher posted...
I mostly lurk but after what i've seen in this topic I have got to say none of you should be using this as a way to push your religious/atheist agenda. People are dead and you're sitting here saying "If only they were atheists they would still be alive". That's like saying about the people in Las Vegas "If only they didn't like music they would still be alive." Same goes for the rest of you calling him an atheist. It doesn't matter what he believed in, he was a piece of human shit. Its dumb, how about we focus on the real problem here?


Because then people can't use it to further their own narrative.
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MLGSerperior111
11/05/17 11:24:02 PM
#251:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Schwarber posted...
A hate crime against Christians by a Christian?


He was not a Christian. Looks like he was an atheist.

Jesus Christ...
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Dragonblade01
11/05/17 11:28:02 PM
#252:


It's enough to make you wonder if we're becoming more and more unhinged.
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