Current Events > This Kevin Spacey thing is really fucking hard to wrap my head around.

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Like just a week or two ago he was one of the most respected and beloved actors in the world. I can't think of anyone who didn't massively respect Kevin Spacey.

It's like Cosby all over again.
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Next week: Tom Hanks has bodies in his crawlspace.
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ledbowman posted...

Next week: Tom Hanks has bodies in his crawlspace.

Then Morgan Freeman gets outed as a puppy strangler.
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And to think Tiger Woods was destroyed cause he cheated. Atleast he banged adults.
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mortimerjames posted...

And to think Tiger Woods was destroyed cause he cheated. Atleast he banged adults.

I think that was kind of different. Like his crimes were enough to make him look like a pretty crappy person but not enough to revolt everyone so much that his career was actually done. He still continued to play golf and people don't think as badly of him now. He did the rest of the damage himself.
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I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.
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yeah, I'm really bummed out. I'm not personally offended or anything, he's just an actor, but... what the fuck, yo

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".
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pinky0926 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

30 is what makes it hard to believe. If it was just a few women then yeah, sure.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

30 is what makes it hard to believe. If it was just a few women then yeah, sure.

*scratches head vigorously*
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

30 is what makes it hard to believe. If it was just a few women then yeah, sure.

What about Weinstein? Do you think that's fake because it's a high number of women?

Your logic is dumb as fuck. Cosby was a serial rapist. He even settled a case and flat out admitted to drugging and raping her. If he did it to one and admitted to it, is it that hard for you to believe he did it to more?
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what if we learned that most of the people we respect the most turned out to be sexual deviants in a way that left many victimized? would we gradually become more desensitized to rape as a nation?

when it comes to "heroes" for a example, we're not really allowed to talk much about their dark sides and it's often swept under the rug as being "a different time."
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Jack Nicholson reportedly accused of hiring old women on fiver to sing family guy songs to him on skype while he masturbates with the corpse of a stray cat
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DocileOrangeCup posted...

Jack Nicholson reportedly accused of hiring old women on fiver to sing family guy songs to him on skype while he masturbates with the corpse of a stray cat

I wouldn't even be slightly surprised if this was true tbh. I mean pretty much nothing would surprise me from Jack Nicholson.
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i swear to god if anything comes out about ainsley harriott...
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mortimerjames posted...

And to think Tiger Woods was destroyed cause he cheated. Atleast he banged adults.

Could anybody really blame him for having affairs, his wife was a psycho.
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Tropicalwood posted...

mortimerjames posted...

And to think Tiger Woods was destroyed cause he cheated. Atleast he banged adults.

Could anybody really blame him for having affairs, his wife was a psycho.

Bill Burr summed it up for me. You step off the course and a bus full of scandinavian supermodels all throw themselves at you. I can never judge a man in that position dealing with temptation at that level.
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pinky0926 posted...

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

Not really. Massive conspiracy makes more sense given the time period and how long they kept it under wraps. Did he drug them (give them drugs)? Probably. Did he rape them? Probably not.
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It sort of makes sense considering how well Spacey plays sociopaths in his roles.

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

its not. people in the industry have been talking about it since the 80s.
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mortimerjames posted...

And to think Tiger Woods was destroyed cause he cheated. Atleast he banged adults.

He can still go back and play golf professionally and make tons of millions. Spacey is done for good.
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Knowledge_King posted...

pinky0926 posted...

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

Massive conspiracy makes more sense

lol
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Knowledge_King posted...

pinky0926 posted...

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

Not really. Massive conspiracy makes more sense given the time period and how long they kept it under wraps. Did he drug them (give them drugs)? Probably. Did he rape them? Probably not.

lol wtf is wrong with you? literally excusing rape.

People keep it under wraps because accusing powerful rich people who will destroy you in court is a bad idea. These men get away with this shit because they're untouchable. It's no wonder that once previous victims see that accusations are starting to stick they come out and accuse them as well. Weinstein would (and did) literally destroy or make people's careers, it's not hard to understand why people would stay quiet.
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If it makes you feel better, I didn't like Kevin Spacey a month ago.
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I think a difference between Spacey and Cosby is that Spacey was well respected for his acting ability, whereas Cosby was respected because of his good reputation and racial outreach.
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Gamer99z posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

30 is what makes it hard to believe. If it was just a few women then yeah, sure.

What about Weinstein? Do you think that's fake because it's a high number of women?

Your logic is dumb as fuck. Cosby was a serial rapist. He even settled a case and flat out admitted to drugging and raping her. If he did it to one and admitted to it, is it that hard for you to believe he did it to more?

I think its more of the notion that in any group that large with allegations as serious as rape, statistically there would be a few band wagoners. Im not calling any of the women liars. Im just saying that taking them all at their word without evidence is as bad as calling them liars.
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So this Hollywood scandal thing got me thinking about Chros Benoit, the wrestler who killed his son and wife and then himself. My opinion is I can't respect a person's work or talent if I can't respect the person. For what Benoit did, I can no longer respect him so nor can I enjoy or respect any of his work in the ring. There is a ton of loyal Benoit fans who often claims "I don't care about his personal life, I only care about what he did to entertain me". I wonder how they feel about Hollywood actors such as Kevin Spacey. Do they also say 'I don't care about his personal life, I only care about what he did to entertain me"? as well. Makes you think.
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pinky0926 posted...

Bill Burr summed it up for me. You step off the course and a bus full of scandinavian supermodels all throw themselves at you. I can never judge a man in that position dealing with temptation at that level.

thus the only reason monogamy holds up for anyone at all is simply convenience or a lack of opportunity

life is a joke

mortimerjames posted...

And to think Tiger Woods was destroyed cause he cheated. Atleast he banged adults.

That's more about Tigers skills and golf ability decaying due to his own ego and wanting to "look like an athlete" instead of being a golfer
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What is so hard to understand about it? Being good at something doesnt make someone a better person or less likely to be a shit in their personal life.
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i had no idea people liked kevin spacey this much
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Omnislasher posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Bill Burr summed it up for me. You step off the course and a bus full of scandinavian supermodels all throw themselves at you. I can never judge a man in that position dealing with temptation at that level.

thus the only reason monogamy holds up for anyone at all is simply convenience or a lack of opportunity

life is a joke

Yup

I always laugh when fugly dudes who married their first girlfriend talk from their high horse about infidelity. It's not really a choice if you have no options.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

Gamer99z posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

30 is what makes it hard to believe. If it was just a few women then yeah, sure.

What about Weinstein? Do you think that's fake because it's a high number of women?

Your logic is dumb as fuck. Cosby was a serial rapist. He even settled a case and flat out admitted to drugging and raping her. If he did it to one and admitted to it, is it that hard for you to believe he did it to more?

I think its more of the notion that in any group that large with allegations as serious as rape, statistically there would be a few band wagoners. Im not calling any of the women liars. Im just saying that taking them all at their word without evidence is as bad as calling them liars.

Personally I don't really think it matters all that much once you're dealing with 30 accusation. I really can't be bothered to care if one or two are lying or inflating the story since I think at that point it doesn't really change anything for where you land on the piece of shit scale. I'm not sure what you're really expecting out of something like that, "oh we're sorry Mr. Cosby, it turns out you really only drugged and raped 25 women instead of 30. It's not as bad as we thought."
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Link HT posted...

Omnislasher posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Bill Burr summed it up for me. You step off the course and a bus full of scandinavian supermodels all throw themselves at you. I can never judge a man in that position dealing with temptation at that level.

thus the only reason monogamy holds up for anyone at all is simply convenience or a lack of opportunity

life is a joke

Yup

I always laugh when fugly dudes who married their first girlfriend talk from their high horse about infidelity. It's not really a choice if you have no options.

This is beyond stupid. Monogamy really isn't that hard if you're not an asshole or piece of shit. Granted I've never had busloads of people throwing themselves at me but I've had multiple opportunities to cheat yet I've never cheated on any girlfriend and I never would. Yeah you can sometimes have that pop into your head or whatever but to actually act on it is something else completely. If you actually care about and respect the person you're with it isn't hard to stay faithful at all and if you're wanting to fuck other people you just be an adult and break up with the person. Then you can fuck to your hearts content.
Or shit I'd even give a break to someone who fucked someone else but at least immediately told you about it and ended the relationship with you because of it.

To intentionally be lying to someone, breaking their trust, and fucking around behind their back shows that you don't care about that person or respect them and that you're just a piece of shit who can't act like an adult.
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Gamer99z posted...

This is beyond stupid. Monogamy really isn't that hard if you're not an asshole or piece of shit. Granted I've never had busloads of people throwing themselves at me but I've had multiple opportunities to cheat yet I've never cheated on any girlfriend and I never would. Yeah you can sometimes have that pop into your head or whatever but to actually act on it is something else completely. If you actually care about and respect the person you're with it isn't hard to stay faithful at all and if you're wanting to fuck other people you just be an adult and break up with the person. Then you can fuck to your hearts content.
Or shit I'd even give a break to someone who fucked someone else but at least immediately told you about it and ended the relationship with you because of it.

To intentionally be lying to someone, breaking their trust, and fucking around behind their back shows that you don't care about that person or respect them and that you're just a piece of shit who can't act like an adult.

that's all well and good but it has nothing to do with what I said. I'm just saying people who have no options shouldn't brag about something that's outside of their control.
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Monogamy and polygamy are two natural forms of relationships humanity has been practicing for centuries.
The practice of monogamy did not begin with the concept of marriage.

Some people perform better in exclusive relationships with a single partner.
Some others feel more comfortable having multiple partners.

It's petty and shortsighted to treat these choices as a competition.
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Link HT posted...

Gamer99z posted...

This is beyond stupid. Monogamy really isn't that hard if you're not an asshole or piece of shit. Granted I've never had busloads of people throwing themselves at me but I've had multiple opportunities to cheat yet I've never cheated on any girlfriend and I never would. Yeah you can sometimes have that pop into your head or whatever but to actually act on it is something else completely. If you actually care about and respect the person you're with it isn't hard to stay faithful at all and if you're wanting to fuck other people you just be an adult and break up with the person. Then you can fuck to your hearts content.
Or shit I'd even give a break to someone who fucked someone else but at least immediately told you about it and ended the relationship with you because of it.

To intentionally be lying to someone, breaking their trust, and fucking around behind their back shows that you don't care about that person or respect them and that you're just a piece of shit who can't act like an adult.

that's all well and good but it has nothing to do with what I said. I'm just saying people who have no options shouldn't brag about something that's outside of their control.

The first thing you said was "yup" implying you agree with the person you quoted so I was responding to you both about that part of it.

As for what you said I agree that it's dumb when people get braggadocios over things out of their control, but at the same time I also don't think you need to have been in that situation to say that it's a shitty thing to do and that you're an asshole for doing it.

ClockworkHare posted...

Monogamy and polygamy are two natural forms of relationships humanity has been practicing for centuries.
The practice of monogamy did not begin with the concept of marriage.

Some people perform better in exclusive relationships with a single partner.
Some others feel more comfortable having multiple partners.

It's petty and shortsighted to treat these choices as a competition.

I can agree with this. Different things work for different people as as long as you're honest with the people you're with I don't see one as better or more "right" than the other.
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CelestialVoices posted...

i had no idea people liked kevin spacey this much

House of Cards has been a big deal for a while now.
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some of the people who give props to polygamy/polyamory are unattractive losers who barely have any options too

they know they got practically zero chance of ever gettin married or settling down with one partner
nobody gonna put up with them and their unattractive shit that long

so they use the idea of polyamory as a convenient excuse to explain why they ain't ever gonna be married and why they don't have a current long term partner

there are tons of losers who still claim to be polymorous despite basically havin no consistent sex life at all
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

They had the dirt on Cosby for years, they were just waiting for a reason to use it. Look at Cosby- he was a conservative African American man who was very critical of shortcomings in the African American community, and they decided to bury him when all this Black Lives Matter rioting was going on. They didn't want him damaging the perceived validity of the movement with his views. I believe in coincidence, but I believe in character assassination more.
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r4X0r posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

They had the dirt on Cosby for years, they were just waiting for a reason to use it. Look at Cosby- he was a conservative African American man who was very critical of shortcomings in the African American community, and they decided to bury him when all this Black Lives Matter rioting was going on. They didn't want him damaging the perceived validity of the movement with his views. I believe in coincidence, but I believe in character assassination more.

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Wow.
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mortimerjames posted...

And to think Tiger Woods was destroyed cause he cheated. Atleast he banged adults.

Tiger was a dumbass.

*Leaves voicemail on girls phone* "Hey it's me Tiger. Tiger Woods. Yea. Anyways stop calling me my wife is getting suspicious. Just in case you didn't hear this is T-i-g-e-r if you get this don't call me for a while. Talk to you soon"

Literally deserves everything that happened
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Tiger was destroyed because his demanding workouts finally caught up with him and then he got addicted to painkillers.

mortimerjames posted...

And to think Tiger Woods was destroyed cause he cheated. Atleast he banged adults.

SOOOOOOO much this.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

Im not calling any of the women liars. Im just saying that taking them all at their word without evidence is as bad as calling them liars.

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UncleBourbon33 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I still think something was fishy with the Bill Cosby one.

I mean there were like 30 women dude. I think at that point you have to admit that "massive conspiracy to bring down cosby" makes a lot less sense than just "creepy old man".

30 is what makes it hard to believe. If it was just a few women then yeah, sure.

Substitute "sexual assault" with "murder" and then think long and hard about how incredibly fuckin stupid you sound.
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