Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 145: Lawyer Dog, Coming to CBS Tuesdays This Fall

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I have literally nothing to vote for. Hooray!
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11/5/2017
WASHINGTON POST - Poll: Trump?s performance lags behind even tepid public expectations

He is the only president dating back to Harry S. Truman whose approval rating at this point in his presidency is net negative ? by 22 points. The next worst recorded in that time was Bill Clinton, who had a net positive of 11 points by this time in his presidency.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-trumps-performance-lags-behind-even-tepid-public-expectations/

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2017/11/04/35d2a912-bf4d-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html

Funny how that measurement allows Dubya of all people to look impossibly loved, but given the then-recent impact of 9/11 I think we understand how that happened.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_480w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/11/05/National-Politics/Graphics/2300-trumppoll1104-v7.jpg?uuid=ZQEEcMHtEeeSlHBfgBZPbg
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To be fair Bush was doing around as well as Obama before 9/11.
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Did not realize that -- thanks for sharing. I ran off the assumption that the 2000 election-controversy was still haunting his poll numbers then, whoops.
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I have literally nothing to vote on tomorrow. No ballot at all
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Yeah I think most of the disapproval of Dubya came later in his presidency with the bungling of the War on Terror, though it took a while for the 9/11 solidarity to wear off, which is probably why he got a second term. (Well that and John Kerry was probably closer to Hillary on the charisma scale than he really should have been)

Ultimately the 2000 election controversy I don't think ever mattered all that much
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I mean it's impressive that a guy who had 90% approval rating in his first year as president somehow ended up in a neck-and-neck race with John Kerry.
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Yeah, Bush didn't become "almost universally hated" until his second term. I'm not sure how many people that voted Bush were turned off from the Florida recount, a lot of the controversy was due to the networks, not Bush himself.
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Yeah, Bush had what was at the time a "low" approval rating his first month in office of 60%. I think both Clinton and Obama came in higher than that but I could be wrong.
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Its impressive that in 2004 he was a Republican that won the popular vote, the only time thats happened since 1988
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VAis super fucking important, especially given that mega-establishment GOP candidate Ed Gillespie went full Trump in his general election campaign. If he wins the lesson will be that embracing Trump fully is the way to win as a Republican (especially because VA is like the most establishment-friendly state).
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If Northam wins in VA, it will prove that the left wing of the Democratic Party is wrong and the party doesn't need to change anything to win elections. If Gillespie wins, it will prove that the party needs to move further away from the left and towards the center to win.
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Extrapolating a single election from a single state seems awfully idiotic, regardless of which way the result goes.
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Peace___Frog posted...

Extrapolating a single election from a single state seems awfully idiotic

Have you met the Democratic Party? Idiotic is their MO.
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Not_an_Owl posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

Extrapolating a single election from a single state seems awfully idiotic

Have you met the Democratic Party? Idiotic is their MO.

^

And regardless of whether it's smart to do so, people will read into it and overreact.
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if Northam wins we should only nominate people whose last names start with N from now on
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Peace___Frog posted...

Extrapolating a single election from a single state seems awfully idiotic, regardless of which way the result goes.

I agree that it's dumb, but it definitely will affect the conventional wisdom, and thus have real effects on how Republicans act and on how willing they are to resist Trump.
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HaRRicH posted...

Did not realize that -- thanks for sharing. I ran off the assumption that the 2000 election-controversy was still haunting his poll numbers then, whoops.

If he had Twitter and Trump-like thin skin, maybe.
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Both Gore and Bush actually did a really good job trying to unite the country post election recounts.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/927673257230327808

Mark this as a future Trump Criticizes Trump Tweet
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Oh my god Carter Page:

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/927709900247130112

This guy is an idiot among idiots
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Its incredible that he thought he needed no legal counsel for this testimony.

Now hes out there blowing holes in a lot of Trump campaign staff denials about Russia purely by accidental word vomit
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It would be fitting for Trump to be taken down by someone even stupider than himself!
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Oh my god Carter Page:

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/927709900247130112

This guy is an idiot among idiots

Perhaps we should be thankful to those who put him in a position where he'd have incriminating info on higher ups in the campaign.
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UK gov calling out Fox for being bad at reporting the news:

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/rupert-murdochs-fox-news-rapped-claiming-britain-haven-terrorism/

Ofcom said the programme failed to include any reflection of the views of the UK Government or any of the authorities or people criticised, which we would have expected given the nature and amount of criticism of them in the programme.

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Propaganda isn't news, more at 11
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I'm expecting VA to go to the GOP today. I don't trust Northam to bring it home.
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Paul Ryan can fuck right off.
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transcience posted...

I'm expecting VA to go to the GOP today. I don't trust Northam to bring it home.

Doubt it.
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Early turnout numbers seem fairly positive for Northram. Good voter rates in some heavy D districts.

Meanwhile in NJ there are like 5 people voting statewide.
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The Mana Sword posted...

Early turnout numbers seem fairly positive for Northram. Good voter rates in some heavy D districts.

Meanwhile in NJ there are like 5 people voting statewide.

getting an absentee ballot is difficult okay!

youve got to like mail a thing out or something
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https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/927936962232815616

We are getting reports of calls to Virginia voters falsely saying that their polling place has changed.

If you receive a call:
Confirm your polling place at https://t.co/3NmwdTvoHb

Report it to @ACLUVA at 804-644-8080
#ElectionDay #vagov

Also seeing reports of full parking lots, but very short voting lines.

Voter suppression attempts, gotta love it.
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I didn't see anything like that when I went to vote 30 minutes ago, but then again I'm in a R+30 district.

EDIT: Whoops, went and replied to the other part about parking lots being stuffed/blocked. My phone has not rung once today.
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Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/927936962232815616

We are getting reports of calls to Virginia voters falsely saying that their polling place has changed.

If you receive a call:
Confirm your polling place at https://t.co/3NmwdTvoHb

Report it to @ACLUVA at 804-644-8080
#ElectionDay #vagov

Also seeing reports of full parking lots, but very short voting lines.

Voter suppression attempts, gotta love it.

Fucking disgusting
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So there were literally 6 candidate for School Board, all democrats and none of them came to the polling place.

I literally just voted at random.
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Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/927936962232815616

We are getting reports of calls to Virginia voters falsely saying that their polling place has changed.

If you receive a call:
Confirm your polling place at https://t.co/3NmwdTvoHb

Report it to @ACLUVA at 804-644-8080
#ElectionDay #vagov

Also seeing reports of full parking lots, but very short voting lines.

Voter suppression attempts, gotta love it.

That second part is awesome! I wonder why no one thought of it before. It's so amazingly simple.
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I dont see how parking at a polling station is an effective strategy. Are polling stations less numerous in the US? In my city everyone is within a 15 minute walk to their polling station. The only places that would suffer would be rural polling stations.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/927936962232815616

We are getting reports of calls to Virginia voters falsely saying that their polling place has changed.

If you receive a call:
Confirm your polling place at https://t.co/3NmwdTvoHb

Report it to @ACLUVA at 804-644-8080
#ElectionDay #vagov

Also seeing reports of full parking lots, but very short voting lines.

Voter suppression attempts, gotta love it.

That second part is awesome! I wonder why no one thought of it before. It's so amazingly simple.

I told myself I was going to stop being so aggressive and confrontational Im these topics, so this is me being calm.

Can you PLEASE not act vocally giddy about reports of actions that, if true, represent underhanded tactics designed to screw American citizens out of their right to choose their own representation? I know you hate the Patriots and all the allegations of cheating, so please dont support cheating in politics, which ACTUALLY affects peoples lives and can negatively impact them without their voice being heard.
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charmander6000 posted...

I dont see how parking at a polling station is an effective strategy. Are polling stations less numerous in the US? In my city everyone is within a 15 minute walk to their polling station. The only places that would suffer would be rural polling stations.

I don't know about other states/cities but here in Louisville I can only vote at one polling place.

So if you feel the parking lot of a place that is mainly inhabited by people more likely to vote against your candidate, if they are lazy they just won't go if they see the full parking lot.
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at least mwc is consistent about hating democracy
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EmDubyaSee posted...

charmander6000 posted...

I dont see how parking at a polling station is an effective strategy. Are polling stations less numerous in the US? In my city everyone is within a 15 minute walk to their polling station. The only places that would suffer would be rural polling stations.

I don't know about other states/cities but here in Louisville I can only vote at one polling place.

So if you feel the parking lot of a place that is mainly inhabited by people more likely to vote against your candidate, if they are lazy they just won't go if they see the full parking lot.

This. If you honestly think your average American is going to walk someplace 15 minutes away (in potentially cold November temperatures), you dont know Americans very well.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

charmander6000 posted...

I dont see how parking at a polling station is an effective strategy. Are polling stations less numerous in the US? In my city everyone is within a 15 minute walk to their polling station. The only places that would suffer would be rural polling stations.

I don't know about other states/cities but here in Louisville I can only vote at one polling place.

So if you feel the parking lot of a place that is mainly inhabited by people more likely to vote against your candidate, if they are lazy they just won't go if they see the full parking lot.

We also only have one polling station where we can vote, but I mean they're so close to each other that having no parking isn't an issue because you can just walk to it.
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Espeon posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/927936962232815616

We are getting reports of calls to Virginia voters falsely saying that their polling place has changed.

If you receive a call:
Confirm your polling place at https://t.co/3NmwdTvoHb

Report it to @ACLUVA at 804-644-8080
#ElectionDay #vagov

Also seeing reports of full parking lots, but very short voting lines.

Voter suppression attempts, gotta love it.

That second part is awesome! I wonder why no one thought of it before. It's so amazingly simple.

I told myself I was going to stop being so aggressive and confrontational Im these topics, so this is me being calm.

Can you PLEASE not act vocally giddy about reports of actions that, if true, represent underhanded tactics designed to screw American citizens out of their right to choose their own representation? I know you hate the Patriots and all the allegations of cheating, so please dont support cheating in politics, which ACTUALLY affects peoples lives and can negatively impact them without their voice being heard.

How is it cheating?

It's pretty dirty, (like having the lead of less than 6 on offense and making multiple offensive penalties to kill clock...) but it's totally not cheating. Just like killing the clock while driving it's probably dirty, but absolutely great strategy.
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charmander6000 posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

charmander6000 posted...

I dont see how parking at a polling station is an effective strategy. Are polling stations less numerous in the US? In my city everyone is within a 15 minute walk to their polling station. The only places that would suffer would be rural polling stations.

I don't know about other states/cities but here in Louisville I can only vote at one polling place.

So if you feel the parking lot of a place that is mainly inhabited by people more likely to vote against your candidate, if they are lazy they just won't go if they see the full parking lot.

We also only have one polling station where we can vote, but I mean they're so close to each other that having no parking isn't an issue because you can just walk to it.

Your state/city is better than mine then. My next place is close, but if I walked it would take 7-8 minutes.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

Espeon posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/927936962232815616

We are getting reports of calls to Virginia voters falsely saying that their polling place has changed.

If you receive a call:
Confirm your polling place at https://t.co/3NmwdTvoHb

Report it to @ACLUVA at 804-644-8080
#ElectionDay #vagov

Also seeing reports of full parking lots, but very short voting lines.

Voter suppression attempts, gotta love it.

That second part is awesome! I wonder why no one thought of it before. It's so amazingly simple.

I told myself I was going to stop being so aggressive and confrontational Im these topics, so this is me being calm.

Can you PLEASE not act vocally giddy about reports of actions that, if true, represent underhanded tactics designed to screw American citizens out of their right to choose their own representation? I know you hate the Patriots and all the allegations of cheating, so please dont support cheating in politics, which ACTUALLY affects peoples lives and can negatively impact them without their voice being heard.

How is it cheating?

It's pretty dirty, (like having the lead of less than 6 on offense and making multiple offensive penalties to kill clock...) but it's totally not cheating. Just like killing the clock while driving it's probably dirty, but absolutely great strategy.

Voter suppression in general is cheating. How would you feel if I arbitrarily had the power to deny you a voice in decisions that affect your life? Our democracy is founded on the idea that the people have a say in choosing their elected officials and this is yet another example of taking peoples rights away.
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man.

just block MWC.

it's pretty easy.

As for Charmander's comments: You need to remember that a -lot- of the U.S. is rural. Especially Virginia, where this is being reported.
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the democratic process is not a game

this is a shitty analogy
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dowolf posted...

man.

just block MWC.

it's pretty easy.

He IS blocked on my main.

Plus his contribution to the lawyer dog debate (and there was something else recently that escapes me at the moment) gave me a glimmer of hope that he can decrease some of the more hyperbolic posts he makes in here.
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Espeon posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Espeon posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/927936962232815616

We are getting reports of calls to Virginia voters falsely saying that their polling place has changed.

If you receive a call:
Confirm your polling place at https://t.co/3NmwdTvoHb

Report it to @ACLUVA at 804-644-8080
#ElectionDay #vagov

Also seeing reports of full parking lots, but very short voting lines.

Voter suppression attempts, gotta love it.

That second part is awesome! I wonder why no one thought of it before. It's so amazingly simple.

I told myself I was going to stop being so aggressive and confrontational Im these topics, so this is me being calm.

Can you PLEASE not act vocally giddy about reports of actions that, if true, represent underhanded tactics designed to screw American citizens out of their right to choose their own representation? I know you hate the Patriots and all the allegations of cheating, so please dont support cheating in politics, which ACTUALLY affects peoples lives and can negatively impact them without their voice being heard.

How is it cheating?

It's pretty dirty, (like having the lead of less than 6 on offense and making multiple offensive penalties to kill clock...) but it's totally not cheating. Just like killing the clock while driving it's probably dirty, but absolutely great strategy.

Voter suppression in general is cheating. How would you feel if I arbitrarily had the power to deny you a voice in decisions that affect your life? Our democracy is founded on the idea that the people have a say in choosing their elected officials and this is yet another example of taking peoples rights away.

The FIRST part is voter suppression, and while it was brilliant, it was also illegal. You didn't see me praising the phone scam did you? If that happens report them and get them arrested. That would be like deflating football.

The second part isn't remotely voter suppression. You aren't making it so someone can't vote, or can't find a place to vote and gives up.

You are giving the illusion that the line is incredibly long, and if they don't think their vote is worth time that's on them. The Dems actually can do this too. We just are usually more passionate about voting. Dems don't go out in the rain in large numbers for this.
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The Mana Sword posted...

the democratic process is not a game

this is a shitty analogy

He started the analogy. I was just left to finish it.

I
Wouldn't have used football either.
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