Current Events > So people are just cool with Trump referring to Elizabeth Warren as Pocahontas?

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Like just flat out blatantly being racist.
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how many vague topics we gonna get b4 someone posts the quote

Not really
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FrenchCrunch posted...

how many vague topics we gonna get b4 someone posts the quote

Good question.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

how many vague topics we gonna get b4 someone posts the quote

He has done it multiple times.

Goofy Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to as Pocahontas, pretended to be a Native American in order to advance her career. Very racist!
6/11/16

Pocahontas just stated that the Democrats, lead by the legendary Crooked Hillary Clinton, rigged the Primaries! Lets go FBI & Justice Dept.
from today
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im gonna be honest i dont think that's that bad for him. it's just another one of his stupid nicknames imo

It's ok because she's white....I think is the rationale. Idk.

Like if you called every Arab person you met Aladdin you know that'd be racist. Or every chinese chick Mulan >_<

so yeah Trump is a butt.
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Apparently if it offends you then you are an SJW.
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Well yeah. But he says she's lying so it is okay
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Yes, nothing racist about it.

If you're truly offended by this, take my hand so I can lead you to a safe space for a nap
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fenderbender321 posted...

It's hilarious, so yeah I'm cool with it.

ddo you like it when people use the N word or say bad hombre?

Only if you're a Trump supporter. Does anybody really expect any sort of decency from them, though?
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Warren used her very slim Native American ancestry to get a professorship at Harvard. Lol, check your facts bruh.
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Look, I hate Trump probably more than the average person, but this isn't racist. Childish and stupid, sure, but he's just mocking her for lying about her heritage for personal gain, so he's sarcastically calling her the most unique Native American name he can think of.

I mean, if you wanted to make fun of a weeb going on about Japan, would it be offensive to call them Naruto?
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The point of it being a racist-ish nickname is that she was racist by claiming a false heritage
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Doe posted...

claiming a false heritage

I don't actually know anything about this. Was this actually proved? Or is she like 1/64 Cherokee or something, or did she just make it up or what?

and if you can just lie about your heritage on applications and get away with it why doesn't everyone?
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I don't see how that's racist. You can argue not tactful I guess, but in that case grow thicker skin.
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I mean if she's the one claiming to be Native American, and isn't actually Native American, this isn't so much a racist name he's giving her as much as it is a sarcastic name. Idk I'm no Trump fan, but this one doesn't really bother me unless she can prove she is in fact of Native American lineage.
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lilORANG posted...

Doe posted...

claiming a false heritage

I don't actually know anything about this. Was this actually proved? Or is she like 1/64 Cherokee or something, or did she just make it up or what?

and if you can just lie about your heritage on applications and get away with it why doesn't everyone?

Long story short, she registered with a legal directory claiming to be a minority for about a decade and let Harvard use her as an example for staff diversity when there's no actual evidence to suggest that she has any Native American ancestry other than a claim about a great-great-great grandma claiming to be part-Cherokee. In other words, the equivalent of the dude that finds out they're 1.7% Iberian in a DNA and then wanting to go on a trip to Spain to connect to their roots.
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Yes. She made a false claim and got called out on it. This happened more than a year ago.

Basically, if I found an African American in my lineage and started a political campaign claiming to be African American, that wouldn't fly.
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K181 posted...

lilORANG posted...

Doe posted...

claiming a false heritage

I don't actually know anything about this. Was this actually proved? Or is she like 1/64 Cherokee or something, or did she just make it up or what?

and if you can just lie about your heritage on applications and get away with it why doesn't everyone?

Long story short, she registered with a legal directory claiming to be a minority for about a decade and let Harvard use her as an example for staff diversity when there's no actual evidence to suggest that she has any Native American ancestry other than a claim about a great-great-great grandma claiming to be part-Cherokee. In other words, the equivalent of the dude that finds out they're 1.7% Iberian and then wanting to go on a trip to Spain to connect to their roots.

So she's not wrong, she just over exaggerated
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billcom6 posted...

Like just flat out blatantly being racist.

She's actually need Native American ancestry for that to be true.
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Samurontai posted...

K181 posted...

lilORANG posted...

Doe posted...

claiming a false heritage

I don't actually know anything about this. Was this actually proved? Or is she like 1/64 Cherokee or something, or did she just make it up or what?

and if you can just lie about your heritage on applications and get away with it why doesn't everyone?

Long story short, she registered with a legal directory claiming to be a minority for about a decade and let Harvard use her as an example for staff diversity when there's no actual evidence to suggest that she has any Native American ancestry other than a claim about a great-great-great grandma claiming to be part-Cherokee. In other words, the equivalent of the dude that finds out they're 1.7% Iberian and then wanting to go on a trip to Spain to connect to their roots.

So she's not wrong, she just over exaggerated

No, as there's a) not apparent evidence that the claim is even true, and b) it's still attempting to profit off of something that had no meaningful impact on her quality of life or upbringing. And, again, it let Harvard falsely claim diversity in their staff which wasn't the case.
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masticatingman posted...

Warren used her very slim Native American ancestry to get a professorship at Harvard. Lol, check your facts bruh.

We found no proof that she ever marked a form to tell the schools about her heritage, nor any public evidence that the universities knew about her lineage before hiring her. Still, we found that Warrens relying on family lore rather than official documentation to make an ethnic claim raised serious concerns about Warrens judgment.


But that is kind of irrelevant to Trump's nickname.
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IIRC wasn't she (and many others actually) given inaccurate information about her Native American heritage all those years back?

Like, I thought she had it officially traced and went off on that, only to learn years later that it was inaccurate.
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lilORANG posted...

I don't actually know anything about this. Was this actually proved?

She basically admits it herself with her incredibly awkward beating around the bush whenever she's asked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbVq2QjZsZw
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I've had a Lakota-Sioux tell me verbatim that "the Cherokee were the whores of the nation, every paleface says they're part Cherokee." She was messing around about the paleface thing, but 9/10 times I've heard someone say they're part native, it's always Cherokee. Meanwhile, I'm part Blackfoot.
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It's not making fun of Native Americans, it's making fun of a white woman who pretends she's a minority to score oppression points. Nothing racist about that. Just like when people make fun of Shaun King and Rachel Dolezal for pretending to be black.
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Racist? No, not really.

Pathetic, stupid, small minded, easy red meat for his base, conduct unbecoming for the fucking POTUS? Sure, but that's somehow become the norm for Trump
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Racist? No, not really.

Pathetic, stupid, small minded, easy red meat for his base, conduct unbecoming for the fucking POTUS? Sure, but that's somehow become the norm for Trump

Get your panties out of a bunch, it's a great nickname that's well deserved. Not sure why Trump is so much better than the left at coming up with catchy nicknames when they're supposed to be the side with all the creative types.
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The Admiral posted...

It's not making fun of Native Americans, it's making fun of a white woman who pretends she's a minority to score oppression points. Nothing racist about that. Just like when people make fun of Shaun King and Rachel Dolezal for pretending to be black.

Yeah but no one calls Shaun Martin Luther King,

Itd be funny if it was just a play on her name with an Indian reference

This def has racist undertones
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You can be racist against white people?
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Context is a funny thing, isn't it TC?
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The Admiral posted...

Get your panties out of a bunch, it's a great nickname that's well deserved. Not sure why Trump is so much better than the left at coming up with catchy nicknames when they're supposed to be the side with all the creative types.

Not my fault you and other Trump supporters are easy to please. Trump being an offensive jackass has never really bothered me, it's always been his shitty policies and propping up the rest of shitty Republican policies that did.

But hey, if you want to find enjoyment in such "catchy" nicknames like 'Crooked/Lyin/Little/Liddle/Cryin' etc then be my guest
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FrenchCrunch posted...

im gonna be honest i dont think that's that bad for him. it's just another one of his stupid nicknames imo

Seriously what a pathetic overreaction, this is why people ignore you when Trump actually does something bad because you cry wolf over the dumbest s***

The Admiral posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Racist? No, not really.

Pathetic, stupid, small minded, easy red meat for his base, conduct unbecoming for the fucking POTUS? Sure, but that's somehow become the norm for Trump

Get your panties out of a bunch, it's a great nickname that's well deserved. Not sure why Trump is so much better than the left at coming up with catchy nicknames when they're supposed to be the side with all the creative types.

This is pathetic, even for you
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I mean it sounds like he used it sarcastically because she doesn't have significant Native American ancestry.

Like if someone's constantly talking shit about how good at basketball they are and you go "lol okay Michael Jordan."
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Btw, it is racist as fuck. There's no denying this. The same people who are ok with this were bitching when liberals used Trumps original family name
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Btw, it is racist as fuck. There's no denying this. The same people who are ok with this were bitching when liberals used Trumps original family name

All I remember about that was people saying how dumb and biteless of an insult it was and calling liberals out on hypocrisy rather than taking genuine offense.
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weapon_d00d816 posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

Btw, it is racist as fuck. There's no denying this. The same people who are ok with this were bitching when liberals used Trumps original family name

All I remember about that was people saying how dumb and biteless of an insult it was and calling liberals out on hypocrisy rather than taking genuine offense.

Yeah, Less Intelligent Shaun King is kind of proving the point he got outraged about above. The greatest nickname a "liberal comedic genius" could come up with was Drumpf, which is more impotent than most of the emasculated men who bought those "Make Donald Drumpf Again" hats.

Meanwhile, Trump comes up with biting and effective nicknames that achieve exactly the effect he wants.
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The greatest nickname a "liberal comedic genius" could come up with was Drumpf, which is more impotent than most of the emasculated men who bought those "Make Donald Drumpf Again" hats.

lol
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If Trump had called Rachel Dolezal Aunt Jemima itd be just as fucked up.

Trumpers arent racist, they just dont care about other races....
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Kineth posted...

I've had a Lakota-Sioux tell me verbatim that "the Cherokee were the whores of the nation, every paleface says they're part Cherokee." She was messing around about the paleface thing, but 9/10 times I've heard someone say they're part native, it's always Cherokee. Meanwhile, I'm part Blackfoot.

my family does the same when the part of the South my maternal family came from was mainly inhabited by the Creek (pretty sure it was the Creek)
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GregShmedley posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

The Admiral posted...

It's not making fun of Native Americans, it's making fun of a white woman who pretends she's a minority to score oppression points. Nothing racist about that. Just like when people make fun of Shaun King and Rachel Dolezal for pretending to be black.

Yeah but no one calls Shaun Martin Luther King,

Itd be funny if it was just a play on her name with an Indian reference

This def has racist undertones

He is literally called Talcum X....

That was my point....

Calling him a random black person could of had racist undertones

While an actual joke isnt as bad.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

The Admiral posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Racist? No, not really.

Pathetic, stupid, small minded, easy red meat for his base, conduct unbecoming for the fucking POTUS? Sure, but that's somehow become the norm for Trump

Get your panties out of a bunch, it's a great nickname that's well deserved. Not sure why Trump is so much better than the left at coming up with catchy nicknames when they're supposed to be the side with all the creative types.

This is pathetic, even for you

Pocahontas isn't even made up by Trump, it was by some Republicans that lost to her in an election.

http://www.nameitchangeit.org/blog/entry/medias-use-of-pocahontas-and-squaw-in-brown-warren-election-is-deeply-offen

At the other end of the spectrum is the term Pocahontas, the use of which is near ubiquitous in conservative media.

Let's give nothing to Trump.

Usually Trump's nicknames are garbage, like Lyin' Ted Cruz. (true, but still lame)
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shnangyboos posted...

I wonder how both sides feel about referring to a white woman as a Becky? I'd bet a lot of opinions would get reversed.

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