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The Admiral 11/02/17 2:54:06 PM #1: |
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/millennials-communism-sounds-pretty-chill-2017-11-01
According to the latest survey from the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, a D.C.-based nonprofit, one in two U.S. millennials say they would rather live in a socialist or communist country than a capitalist democracy. tldr: millennials are completely ignorant about what socialism/Communism really are Only silver lining seems to be that Gen Z is already much more educated. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 11/02/17 2:54:54 PM #2: |
Well yeah most Millennials are broke ass bums that just want to sit around and get paid to do nothing
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wackyteen 11/02/17 2:56:41 PM #3: |
As a millennial
I prefer a capitalist society with social programs Kind of like what we have today but not so "Let's make the rich richer" --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/02/17 2:56:43 PM #4: |
The Admiral posted...
Whats more, 22% of them have a favorable view of Karl Marx and a surprising number see Joseph Stalin and Kim Jong Un as heroes. That alone makes me dubious of this. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 11/02/17 2:57:24 PM #5: |
wackyteen posted...
As a millennial This --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OpheliaAdenade 11/02/17 2:57:32 PM #6: |
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Antifar 11/02/17 2:58:02 PM #7: |
The Admiral posted...
According to the latest survey from the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation Hm. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/02/17 2:58:21 PM #8: |
OpheliaAdenade posted...
I'm sure that site is completely unbiased Addy. Marketwatch is completely unbiased. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/marketwatch/ --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nicklebro 11/02/17 2:58:40 PM #9: |
Ugh, the idea makes sense in recognizing the flaws of capitalism, but to take that and want to go back to a political system that is a proven failure makes no sense.
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Kineth 11/02/17 2:58:59 PM #10: |
Socialism and Communism are favorable compared to crony capitalism.
At least with the former, I'm getting something out of getting fucked. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 11/02/17 2:59:25 PM #11: |
But anyways: generation that came of age during the great recession isn't crazy about capitalism.
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Kineth 11/02/17 2:59:36 PM #12: |
nicklebro posted...
Ugh, the idea makes sense in recognizing the flaws of capitalism, but to take that and want to go back to a political system that is a proven failure makes no sense. These are all economic systems, not political systems. That's why people have no fucking clue what communism or socialism actually is. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 11/02/17 2:59:45 PM #13: |
Kineth posted...
Socialism and Communism are favorable compared to crony capitalism. Implying you're not just going to starve to death while also not getting to enjoy the fruits that Capitalism has built for you. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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clearaflagrantj 11/02/17 2:59:53 PM #14: |
Eat your pheasant, drink your wine, your days are numbered bourgeois swine
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wackyteen 11/02/17 2:59:53 PM #15: |
Irony posted...
Well yeah most Millennials are broke ass bums that just want to sit around and get paid to do nothing Nice strawman there. Most people I come across want to work, but the job options they have are dead end with little to no benefits so the other option is to go into soul crushing debt to get a degree that offers them only a slight chance of getting a good job. The reason socialism/communism is popular is because it sounds like a better deal than what people are getting right now. Why do you think Communism took Russia by storm 100 years ago? Cause it was a far better deal than the czars were giving Russia --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 11/02/17 3:00:06 PM #16: |
Seems like our generation are clueless to the horrors of communism.
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nicklebro 11/02/17 3:00:40 PM #17: |
Kineth posted...
Socialism and Communism are favorable compared to crony capitalism. Naw man, every version of capitalism is better than communism. That doesn't mean capitalism doesn't suck sometime. But you need to choose a better replacement. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Romulox28 11/02/17 3:00:53 PM #18: |
Antifar posted...
But anyways: generation that came of age during the great recession isn't crazy about capitalism. yea i think it's a mix of seeing how broken the system is plus being able to actually say non-critical things about socialism/communism now (since millennials grew up after the cold war was over). --- A Green Butter Alt http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 11/02/17 3:01:15 PM #19: |
So of these presumably 51% of millennials, how many of them favour communism over socialism.
I know it's cool to pretend there's no difference, but it seems fairly disingenuous to conflate them in polling analysis. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nicklebro 11/02/17 3:02:18 PM #20: |
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Seems like our generation are clueless to the horrors of communism. They are. Read the gulag archipelago. Listen to Jordan peterson, especially if you're a liberal. He's a liberal that explains quite clearly the pitfalls of liberalism, it's important to realize neither the right or the left is always correct, and we need the other side to keep the extremes in check. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 11/02/17 3:02:19 PM #21: |
ThePrinceFish posted...
Kineth posted...Socialism and Communism are favorable compared to crony capitalism. The US has never had a fucking free market and has always had icky nasty socialist elements to it. So no, that wasn't what I was implying at all. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 11/02/17 3:02:38 PM #22: |
wackyteen posted...
As a millennial I think this is ultimately the best given human nature and is working wonders in various countries --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 11/02/17 3:03:24 PM #23: |
tbf I doubt most people can properly define what socialism or communism are. The fact that the topic title says "Socialism/Communism" says enough.
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Kineth 11/02/17 3:03:24 PM #24: |
nicklebro posted...
Kineth posted...Socialism and Communism are favorable compared to crony capitalism. Bullshit. Native American economies worked just fucking fine. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 11/02/17 3:04:31 PM #25: |
I think it is safe to say any ideology taken to the extreme is bad.
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NibeIungsnarf 11/02/17 3:06:00 PM #26: |
Kineth posted...
Bullshit. Native American economies worked just fucking fine. You sound delusional. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 11/02/17 3:06:27 PM #27: |
Kineth posted...
Bullshit. Native American economies worked just fucking fine. Do you think a Native American style economy would work for a major nation in modern times? If so holy shit lmao --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 11/02/17 3:07:34 PM #28: |
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Kineth posted...Bullshit. Native American economies worked just fucking fine. Yeah, intelligence is mistaken for craziness by the ignorant and vice versa. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 11/02/17 3:07:49 PM #29: |
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Kineth posted...Bullshit. Native American economies worked just fucking fine. He's not wrong --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Neoconkers 11/02/17 3:07:50 PM #30: |
The Admiral posted...
According to the latest survey from the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, --- Girls = Time x Money. Time = Money. Girls = Money x Money = Money sq. Money = sqrt Evil: Girls = sqrt Evil sq. Girls = Evil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/02/17 3:07:52 PM #31: |
I'm assuming Kineth was joking, because there is no way he could seriously mean that.
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Kineth 11/02/17 3:08:01 PM #32: |
ThePrinceFish posted...
Kineth posted...Bullshit. Native American economies worked just fucking fine. No, look at what I was responding to and contextualize my answer instead of putting words in my mouth. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nicklebro 11/02/17 3:08:20 PM #33: |
Kineth posted...
nicklebro posted...Kineth posted...Socialism and Communism are favorable compared to crony capitalism. Lmao --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 11/02/17 3:08:38 PM #34: |
The Admiral posted...
I'm assuming Kineth was joking, because there is no way he could seriously mean that. If you can't even acknowledge that the US is a mixed economy, the joke's on you. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xBloodBrotherx 11/02/17 3:09:38 PM #35: |
The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation are known for having a strong anti left bias as well as having a very obvious conflict of interest...
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The Admiral 11/02/17 3:09:39 PM #36: |
Kineth posted...
The Admiral posted...I'm assuming Kineth was joking, because there is no way he could seriously mean that. What does this have to do with your comment about Native American economies? --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 11/02/17 3:10:06 PM #37: |
And the only functional nation-state version of communism was done in Yugoslavia. Not saying it was optimal, but they never had to cede control to the USSR because they had a stable, functional economy.
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Funkdamental 11/02/17 3:10:10 PM #38: |
The Admiral posted...
According to the latest survey from the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, a D.C.-based nonprofit The Admiral posted... The survey, which was conducted by research and data firm YouGov Eh? --- Slaughterhouse 5 Cattle 0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nicklebro 11/02/17 3:10:19 PM #39: |
The Admiral posted...
I'm assuming Kineth was joking, because there is no way he could seriously mean that. There is always a way. Lol he literally just called native Americans communists. Long before Marx even wrote the communist manifesto. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E32005 11/02/17 3:10:31 PM #40: |
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Kineth 11/02/17 3:10:35 PM #41: |
The Admiral posted...
Kineth posted...The Admiral posted...I'm assuming Kineth was joking, because there is no way he could seriously mean that. If you don't have basic economic knowledge, who are you to question a higher level economic argument? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/02/17 3:11:10 PM #42: |
xBloodBrotherx posted...
The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation are known for having a strong anti left bias as well as having a very obvious conflict of interest... Pulled right out of your ass. How about actually reading about the organization before posting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Communism_Memorial_Foundation --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seneca_Wallace_ 11/02/17 3:11:45 PM #43: |
Then when we become more socialist and that inevitably fails, over half of the younger generation will prefer capitalism
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nicklebro 11/02/17 3:12:19 PM #44: |
Kineth posted...
The Admiral posted...Kineth posted...The Admiral posted...I'm assuming Kineth was joking, because there is no way he could seriously mean that. You just said native Americans were communists... --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/02/17 3:12:42 PM #45: |
Kineth posted...
The Admiral posted...Kineth posted...The Admiral posted...I'm assuming Kineth was joking, because there is no way he could seriously mean that. I have an economics degree, so it's safe to say I have the knowledge. Now explain what the hell you're talking about with the Native American economy post. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xBloodBrotherx 11/02/17 3:12:54 PM #46: |
The Admiral posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation are known for having a strong anti left bias as well as having a very obvious conflict of interest... "The foundation has received critique for being politically motivated, and being biased, and to discredit various left wing political groups." Huh. --- The above post is literally and objectively right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 11/02/17 3:12:58 PM #47: |
nicklebro posted...
Kineth posted...The Admiral posted...Kineth posted...The Admiral posted...I'm assuming Kineth was joking, because there is no way he could seriously mean that. Yeah, just because someone didn't have a name for gravity doesn't mean that it wasn't already fucking there. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 11/02/17 3:13:32 PM #48: |
The Admiral posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation are known for having a strong anti left bias as well as having a very obvious conflict of interest... "What you're saying is stupid because [wikipedia link with no direct link to any information disproving the position I'm bitching about]" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/02/17 3:14:40 PM #49: |
xBloodBrotherx posted...
The Admiral posted...xBloodBrotherx posted...The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation are known for having a strong anti left bias as well as having a very obvious conflict of interest... Yes, the criticism was made by the Chinese Communism Party. Shocking. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkdamental 11/02/17 3:15:15 PM #50: |
The Admiral posted...
xBloodBrotherx posted...The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation are known for having a strong anti left bias as well as having a very obvious conflict of interest... How does an organization in which John Singlaub sits on the national advisory council not have a strong anti-left bias? --- Slaughterhouse 5 Cattle 0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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