Current Events > Finally! Watching Spiderman Homecoming. Holy crap Flash Thompson is so miscast

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Movie starts out amazing but who is this dweeb they're trying to portray as an intimidating bully?
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Loving the movie but makes Agents of Shield really incompetent at their job if they've never heard even a peep about this smuggling ring that's taking alien tech and Avengers Ultron tech right under Stark's nose. How incompetent of the people in charge.
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More modern take on a bully. Meh, wasn't terrible.
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As much as I loved the movie, Flash was my biggest gripe. I know what they were trying to do in that he's not the traditional jock bully, but I'm use to seeing that dude play dorky, meek characters that it's weird seeing him trying to bully someone else.
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Wait what he's 15? I was hoping he'd at least be 16 or 17, a junior or senior in high school. 15 is way too young. I don't want another spiderman in high school forever...
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saspa posted...

Wait what he's 15? I was hoping he'd at least be 16 or 17, a junior or senior in high school. 15 is way too young. I don't want another spiderman in high school forever...

I mean, that's accurate to the comics. He first get his powers at 15. They want to have it where he goes up a grade level each movie, like Harry Potter.
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Also goddamn is tom holland short, much as I like him as spidey. I can't picture the beauty that they casted for liz allen being with a scrawny little runt like him.
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HOLY FUCK I KNEW IT! Michael Keaton answered the door. I knew it I knew it like 5 seconds before it happened.
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Not miscast at all.

It's a different direction for the character and I can see people not liking it, but I thought it was great. A far more realistic depiction of an actual bully than the big jock shoving nerds in lockers and giving swirlies.

This Flash is just an annoying dick. It's great lol.
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What the hell at this movie not breaking the 1 billion mark?
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saspa posted...

What the hell at this movie not breaking the 1 billion mark?

I got so close to topping Spider-Man 3 as the highest grossing Spider-Man movie.
It was, about, $10,000,000 away smh
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Not as badly miscast as his fat friend.
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Um what the fuck?

What the, at that ending?
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saspa posted...

Um what the fuck?

What the, at that ending?

Got to the end-credit scene?

That was a fun movie. I simultaneously liked Michael Keaton's Vulture but also felt he was underdeveloped as a villain, and I wanted to know more. Like maybe a confrontation with the family or a typical "you're not doing this for your family you're doing this for you" scene except not as cliche as that line.
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Wow that was surprisingly honorable, he didn't rat out Parker's identity.

But seriously Parker is EVERY villain gonna know your secret identity? We haven't even gotten to this iteration of green goblin and already you've gotten your identity exposed. Although I still like how they did it A LOT more than the 2 garbage movies that shall not be named before this return to form movie.
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Mikablu posted...

saspa posted...

Um what the fuck?

What the, at that ending?

Got to the end-credit scene?

Which one?
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saspa posted...

Mikablu posted...

saspa posted...

Um what the fuck?

What the, at that ending?

Got to the end-credit scene?

Which one?

The very last one.

Captain America?
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Yeah. When I saw it in theaters, a lot of people were like "Uh... wtf? Is that it?" at that scene.

Remember how they blatantly stole Ganke from Miles' universe and renamed him Ned
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Mikablu posted...

Yeah. When I saw it in theaters, a lot of people were like "Uh... wtf? Is that it?" at that scene.

It was pretty hilarious tho.
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Mikablu posted...

saspa posted...

Mikablu posted...

saspa posted...

Um what the fuck?

What the, at that ending?

Got to the end-credit scene?

Which one?

The very last one.

That scene was some masterful trolling.
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Mikablu posted...

Yeah. When I saw it in theaters, a lot of people were like "Uh... wtf? Is that it?" at that scene.

It was great because it was mocking those very people.
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I was hoping it was a joke like he has to do this as part of Community Service to avoid being put in jail for the whole civil war and bucky thing and he was wondering how many more of these he has to do before his community service hours were up but I must have read the vibe of that scene wrong.
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saspa posted...

I was hoping it was a joke like he has to do this as part of Community Service to avoid being put in jail for the whole civil war and bucky thing and he was wondering how many more of these he has to do before his community service hours were up but I must have read the vibe of that scene wrong.

It's basically making fun of the people who wait and expect a post-credits scene.
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Oh like Deadpool? What an odd coincidence considering the costume similarity and that time he was mistaken for spiderman
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saspa posted...

I was hoping it was a joke like he has to do this as part of Community Service to avoid being put in jail for the whole civil war and bucky thing and he was wondering how many more of these he has to do before his community service hours were up but I must have read the vibe of that scene wrong.

He's still in hiding

Around the beginning of the movie the kids are watching videos like that, the gym teacher says something like "I'm pretty sure this dude's like a war criminal now but the state requires me to play these"
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saspa posted...

Oh like Deadpool? What an odd coincidence considering the costume similarity and that time he was mistaken for spiderman

Coincidentally, the Deadpool scene was a reference to Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Spider-Man also had a scene directly referencing that movie (where he's shortcutting through the backyards). The scene itself from Ferris Bueller is even playing on someone's television lol
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VectorChaos posted...

saspa posted...

I was hoping it was a joke like he has to do this as part of Community Service to avoid being put in jail for the whole civil war and bucky thing and he was wondering how many more of these he has to do before his community service hours were up but I must have read the vibe of that scene wrong.

He's still in hiding

Around the beginning of the movie the kids are watching videos like that, the gym teacher says something like "I'm pretty sure this dude's like a war criminal now but the state requires me to play these"

Yeah, those were recorded a long time ago. He's wearing the suit from the first Avengers movie.
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ImAMarvel posted...

It was an awful casting and he wasn't written very well.

He came off as a douche, not the sort of physical jock bully that Flash Thompson is supposed to be.

To be fair in the comics he stopped being a physical bully fairly early as Peter used his superpowers on him.

ImAMarvel posted...

It was an awful casting and he wasn't written very well.

He came off as a douche, not the sort of physical jock bully that Flash Thompson is supposed to be.

He didn't physically bully Peter much at all. He mostly just made fun of Peter for being a weak nerd and acting stuck up and not standing up for himself enough. The only time I remember him getting physical is when he provoked Peter into facing him in a boxing match. Peter knocked him out and then he got back up and Peter started holding back to protect his secret identity.
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And while I'm not crazy about web shooters, I really liked them here actually. Enjoyed that they did it like the video games with web grenades and different kinds of web shots, that definitely sold me on web shooters in movies (but let's not overuse the "oh noes out of web now" contrivance more than once a decade)
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Flash at least works as a modern day bully. MJ Isn't MJ at all. Liz should have been MJ.
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Except that "MJ" in Homecoming is not Mary Jane Watson. Much like "Robin" in TDKR is not the actual Robin.
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EvalAngell posted...

Except that "MJ" in Homecoming is not Mary Jane Watson.

Then why call her MJ? Don't give her the iconic nickname if they are going to be the same character.
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it's fan service and nothing more. Mary Jane Watson may not even exist in the MCU.
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EvalAngell posted...

it's fan service and nothing more. Mary Jane Watson may not even exist in the MCU.

Not sure if pissing off fans is fanservice.
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VectorChaos posted...

Mikablu posted...

saspa posted...

Mikablu posted...

saspa posted...

Um what the fuck?

What the, at that ending?

Got to the end-credit scene?

Which one?

The very last one.

That scene was some masterful trolling.

I loved it, and it probably got the second-biggest laugh in the theater I was in after Aunt May's 'what the fu...!' (per capita anyway, since half the theater had of course cleared out by then).
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LightHawKnight posted...

EvalAngell posted...

it's fan service and nothing more. Mary Jane Watson may not even exist in the MCU.

Not sure if pissing off fans is fanservice.

It's just a vocal minority of cry babies bitching about it. Most people don't give a fuck because comic books tend to take different approaches and make altered versions of their characters literally all the time via different universes.
Hell, look at Flash in this movie. I'm not crazy about him myself, but that have more to do with the actor than the actual character.
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Kitt posted...

saspa posted...

Oh like Deadpool? What an odd coincidence considering the costume similarity and that time he was mistaken for spiderman

Coincidentally, the Deadpool scene was a reference to Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Spider-Man also had a scene directly referencing that movie (where he's shortcutting through the backyards). The scene itself from Ferris Bueller is even playing on someone's television lol

Yeah that was a nifty coincidence, they didn't even need to show the corresponding Ferris Bueller clip because the first thing I thought of during that scene was the movie.
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LightHawKnight posted...

Flash at least works as a modern day bully. MJ Isn't MJ at all. Liz should have been MJ.

I can't believe liz wasn't even on the poster
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There is no part of me that can see Homecoming Flash Thompson joining the military, getting his legs blown off in Iraq, drowning his sorrows in alcohol, before reemerging with a purpose as Venom.

Which bums me out because Flash in the comics was awesome.
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He wasn't an intimidating bully, he was a rich snob bully.

ThanksUglyGod posted...

He wasn't an intimidating bully, he was a rich snob bully.

Tbh, I don't think you can really even call him a bully. I just couldn't take him seriously at all. Penis Parker was just the dumbest most hack joke they could have done.

The one good joke from him was when he playfully refused the DC trip, because maybe Black Widow will want to go out with him. The delivery and timing of that was actually good. If they gave him more lines like that then he'd be a more effective character.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

There is no part of me that can see Homecoming Flash Thompson joining the military, getting his legs blown off in Iraq, drowning his sorrows in alcohol, before reemerging with a purpose as Venom.

Which bums me out because Flash in the comics was awesome.

Same here, I think it would be possible to do the Flash arc over a trilogy of films if they wanted to do it.
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Yeah I don't get how this dude got a party to chant that, if anything I expected him to get shoved into a locker. He came off as that preppy kid in collegeish movies that the other guys would beat up.
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

There is no part of me that can see Homecoming Flash Thompson joining the military, getting his legs blown off in Iraq, drowning his sorrows in alcohol, before reemerging with a purpose as Venom.

Which bums me out because Flash in the comics was awesome.

Same here, I think it would be possible to do the Flash arc over a trilogy of films if they wanted to do it.

Is Flash the white Venom that I once saw who cures cancer? He goes by a different name, I forget what it's called.
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