Board 8 > Hearing rumors Notre Dame will be top 4 tonight when the Playoff rankings drop.

(+) Yeah! (+)

That would be absurd.

If they win out they absolutely should be. But not this moment right now with the current resumes...

They are murdering people and their only loss is to Georgia by 1 point, by far the best 1 loss in the country.

They should be in.
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ND has blown out three ranked teams and lost by 1 to the #2 team in the country

I dunno if they will be in the top four or not, but I couldn't really argue against them being included.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

They are murdering people and their only loss is to Georgia by 1 point, by far the best 1 loss in the country.

They should be in.

If they win out.

Definitely.

They should not be ahead of Wisconsin or Miami today. This moment. Both undefeated teams. And you can decide if they should be ahead of Ohio State or not.

That's on you.

1 Bama
2 Georgia
3 Miami/Wisconsin
4 Wisconsin/Miami
5 Notre Dame/OSU
6 OSU/Notre Dame

Anything different then that we should look into law suits.

Tell me how ND should be ahead of an undefeated Big 10 or ACC team.

Today. Not end of year.

Miami and Wisconsin are the two biggest frauds in the country.

Miami moreso.
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Eye Test, because if Miami or Wisconsin wins out they can leap.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Miami and Wisconsin are the two biggest frauds in the country.

Miami moreso.

Probably...

We can't punish them because we think they are jokes though. This moment in time they are undefeated...

You absolutely can punish them. Miami doesn't have a single good win.
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In fairness given Miami and ND play in 2 weeks the rankings tonight don't really matter.
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Yeah, this is ultimately a moot point, but if you're just wanting to pick the four best teams based on what we've seen so far, ND has looked better than Miami.

also I will laugh if Ohio State makes it into the playoffs this year over Penn State even though their circumstances would be completely reversed from last year when the Buckeyes got in over them
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Eye Test, because if Miami or Wisconsin wins out they can leap.

Miami cause they play them...

No team in the country except Bama or USC would ever ever jump Notre Dame on a final poll.

If Wisconsin gets screwed today they would ever jump ND.

Meaning if they win out.

Bama-Wisconsin
Georgia-ND.

When if it is done correctly tonight.

Bama-ND
Georgia-Wisconsin.

Think they'd rather play the 1 seed Bama or the 3 seed?

wisconsin doesn't have a good win either

i don't think any team they beat has fewer than 3 losses right now
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

In fairness given Miami and ND play in 2 weeks the rankings tonight don't really matter.

They do for Wisconsin.

also Georgia should be #1 in the first rankings not Alabama
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FFDragon posted...

wisconsin doesn't have a good win either

i don't think any team they beat has fewer than 3 losses right now

You play to win.

They have done that.

You're ok with punishing a team in the potential best conference that hasn't done anything wrong and things out of their control?

Where is the fairness here?

yes i am

schedule better tbqh
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Do you want the four best teams or do you just want someone who coasts in on an easy schedule?

I mean, Wisconsin would have to beat a good team in the Big Ten championship regardless, but they're the third best team in the Big Ten at best right now.
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LeonhartFour posted...

also Georgia should be #1 in the first rankings not Alabama

I kinda agree with this...

But they've both slaughtered everything except ND. And Bama was preason #1 so I'm
Pretty sure they'll be 1.

The winner in Atlanta will be the 1 seed,
The loser will be the 3. I don't know if Georgia will care necessarily.

But if I personally were ranking them.

1 Georgia
2 Bama
3 Wisconsin
4 Miami
5 ND
6 OSU
7 PSU

The preseason polls have no bearing on the playoff rankings. Bama's win over Florida State is worthless now, so Georgia has the better resume overall because their results over common opponents are almost exactly identical.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Do you want the four best teams or do you just want someone who coasts in on an easy schedule?

I mean, Wisconsin would have to beat a good team in the Big Ten championship regardless, but they're the third best team in the Big Ten at best right now.

I want the 4 most DESERVING teams. 4 best isn't fair. Go out and proof and earn it.

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

In fairness given Miami and ND play in 2 weeks the rankings tonight don't really matter.

They do for Wisconsin.

Actually they don't.

Let's assume the top 7 is:

Bama/Georgia/Miami/Wisconsin/ND/Ohio State/Clemson

Bama/Georgia play in the SEC title game, eliminating one of them
Miami/Clemson match up in the ACC title game
Wisconsin/OSU same thing
ND chills.

If all of them go undefeated besides from each other, and let's just assume no one outside of those teams has a shot if that happens

Basically if Wisconsin runs the table and caps by beating OSU, they are fine.
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I've seen Miami and Wisconsin as low as 8/9 in predictions, and to be honest I don't disagree.
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SSJBGenkiDama posted...

I want the 4 most DESERVING teams. 4 best isn't fair. Go out and proof and earn it.

So you want Notre Dame.

Good.
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LeonhartFour posted...

The preseason polls have no bearing on the playoff rankings. Bama's win over Florida State is worthless now, so Georgia has the better resume overall because their results over common opponents are almost exactly identical.

I just said I wound personally put Georgia number 1... what more do you want from
Me? Lol.

I don't get to pick the 4 tonight, but every rumored link has Bama #1. Get mad at them...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

In fairness given Miami and ND play in 2 weeks the rankings tonight don't really matter.

They do for Wisconsin.

Actually they don't.

Let's assume the top 7 is:

Bama/Georgia/Miami/Wisconsin/ND/Ohio State/Clemson

Bama/Georgia play in the SEC title game, eliminating one of them
Miami/Clemson match up in the ACC title game
Wisconsin/OSU same thing
ND chills.

If all of them go undefeated besides from each other, and let's just assume no one outside of those teams has a shot if that happens

Basically if Wisconsin runs the table and caps by beating OSU, they are fine.

Wisconsin will MAKE it if they win out.

The way they would get screwed is if ND is above them tonight, they will be the 4 seed on the final rankings not higher. As they won't pass ND.

And it's unfair to make Wisconsin play the SEC Champ instead of the SEC runner up when they will be undefeated (with a win over OSU/PSU/Mich to close out) and ND will have already lose.

BOLD PREDICTION: Neither Miami nor Wisconsin makes the top four tonight.
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FFDragon posted...

BOLD PREDICTION: Neither Miami nor Wisconsin makes the top four tonight.

If this happens there should literally be lawyers in Indianapolis TONIGHT, suing that the NCAA is only picking on money and nothing else matters on field.

If Wisconsin wins out, it means they had to beat Penn State or Ohio State, and that will be their only win over a ranked opponent this season.

Well, Michigan will probably get back into the rankings at some point if they don't lose again before facing Wisconsin.
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LeonhartFour posted...

If Wisconsin wins out, it means they had to beat Penn State or Ohio State, and that will be their only win over a ranked opponent this season.

Well, Michigan will probably get back into the rankings at some point if they don't lose again before facing Wisconsin.

So they'll be undefeated from the debatably beat conference on the country.....

And this is somehow not a badge of honor?

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

If this happens there should literally be lawyers in Indianapolis TONIGHT, suing that the NCAA is only picking on money and nothing else matters on field.

You can make good arguments that one of the two doesn't even crack the top ten. There will no riots lol
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SSJBGenkiDama posted...

So they'll be undefeated from the debatably beat conference on the country.....

And this is somehow not a badge of honor?

The Big Ten might be the best conference by default, but there are no great conferences this year. They're all down across the board.

And they might finally deserve a playoff spot by then but not a moment before then.
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FFDragon posted...

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

If this happens there should literally be lawyers in Indianapolis TONIGHT, suing that the NCAA is only picking on money and nothing else matters on field.

You can make good arguments that one of the two doesn't even crack the top ten. There will no riots lol

They are

UN
DE
FEAT
ED!!!!

What more do you desire from them?
Win every game by 50? We aren't supposed to be judging on style points.

so is ucf
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SSJBGenkiDama posted...

What more do you desire from them?
Win every game by 50?

I might actually think they were a good team playing a bad schedule instead of an average team benefiting from an easy schedule
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FFDragon posted...

so is ucf

UCF isn't from a major conference. (Or be ND)

ND is affiliated with the ACC, so it's close enough.
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LeonhartFour posted...

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

What more do you desire from them?
Win every game by 50?

I might actually think they were a good team playing a bad schedule instead of an average team benefiting from an easy schedule

That is so unfair to these kids.

And ridiculously unfair to the University.

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

FFDragon posted...

so is ucf

UCF isn't from a major conference. (Or be ND)

They are

UN
DE
FEAT
ED!!!!

What more do you desire from them?
Win every game by 50? We aren't supposed to be judging on style points.
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SSJBGenkiDama posted...

That is so unfair to these kids.

And ridiculously unfair to the University.

Unfair how? I'm judging them based on how they're playing on the field. Seems pretty fair.
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FFDragon posted...

SSJBGenkiDama posted...

FFDragon posted...

so is ucf

UCF isn't from a major conference. (Or be ND)

They are

UN
DE
FEAT
ED!!!!

What more do you desire from them?
Win every game by 50? We aren't supposed to be judging on style points.

Ok.

Fine.

If
You want me to be 100% honest with you, it'll never happen, but I actually think if you go undefeated and are in the C USA or conference like that, and there are less than 4 undefeated major conference teams (and ND) that they absolutely should make it in.

Would Georgia beat them by 70... hey it's possible. But they deserve the damn opportunity.

It'll never happen because 1 loss OSU makes the NCAA more money than undefeated UCF though. And it shouldn't be about that.

9. Wisconsin
10. Miami

told you
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it's so weird seeing Iowa State in the top 15

bringing back the glory days of Seneca Wallace
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Georgia at 1, ND at 3, looks like they got things right after all. Huzzah.
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I forgot that Penn State is doubly behind the eight ball because they lost to Ohio State who lost to Oklahoma.
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I was also so close to being right that one of Miami/Wisconsin wouldn't make the top ten.
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This is SO
FUCKING STUPID!!!!

Wins and losses don't matter kids.

Miami at this juncture could actually amazingly WIN THE FUCK OUT INCLUDING BEATING #3 AND #4 and be one of only 2/3 Undefeated teams in the country and not make it...

quality wins and losses matter

of which miami has none right now
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Miami would absolutely make it if they win out. Don't be stupid.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Miami would absolutely make it if they win out. Don't be stupid.

Not a guarantee
Bama and Georgia
OSU/Penn St/Wisconsin.
So if OU wins out Miami would officially be fucked over while knocking out Clemson and ND...

Spin that as fair...

Nah, Miami would get in over OU if they're unbeaten with wins over Notre Dame and Clemson. At that point, being unbeaten would matter. Right now, it doesn't.
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