Current Events > I dont understand why Gamergate was ever a thing.

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CiIantro
10/28/17 7:59:49 PM
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Women deserve to be treated with respect, and anyone who says otherwise is disgusting.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/28/17 8:01:06 PM
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who are you and why are you a Follower
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Doe
10/28/17 8:04:55 PM
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It happened for a couple reasons and journalists villainize it in part because it set out to show how atrocious vidya journalism is
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WizardPowers
10/28/17 8:05:04 PM
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CiIantro
10/28/17 8:13:22 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
who are you and why are you a Follower

dont worry about it
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TheMikh
10/28/17 8:13:59 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Women deserve to be treated with respect, and anyone who says otherwise is disgusting.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't what Gamergate was about.

FLUFFYGERM posted...
who are you and why are you a Follower

lol
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GOATSLAYER
10/28/17 8:14:25 PM
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TheMikh posted...
CiIantro posted...
Women deserve to be treated with respect, and anyone who says otherwise is disgusting.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't what Gamergate was about.

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metralo
10/28/17 8:15:04 PM
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gamers as a whole are fucking losers

even people that play games don't wanna be called "gamers" anymore. its like being an MLP or rick and morty fan
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FLUFFYGERM
10/28/17 8:18:39 PM
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CiIantro posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
who are you and why are you a Follower

dont worry about it


oh ill find how anyway so you might as well come clean now
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m_mungmung
10/28/17 8:19:48 PM
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This is this same guy who made that conservatives are racist topic, eh?

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GOATSLAYER
10/28/17 8:20:15 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
CiIantro posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
who are you and why are you a Follower

dont worry about it


oh ill find how anyway so you might as well come clean now

You're on the case
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CiIantro
10/28/17 8:21:42 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
CiIantro posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
who are you and why are you a Follower

dont worry about it


oh ill find how anyway so you might as well come clean now

tee-hee
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CiIantro
10/28/17 8:22:06 PM
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Back on topic though, I just dont get why there was even an argument. The whole thing was common sense.
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Blue_Dream87
10/28/17 8:31:40 PM
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Because SJWism became a thing and certain shitty gamers wanted to band together and fight it using some cover issue like "ethics in gaming journalism".
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Samurontai
10/28/17 8:33:26 PM
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RebelElite791
10/28/17 8:34:14 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
TheMikh posted...
CiIantro posted...
Women deserve to be treated with respect, and anyone who says otherwise is disgusting.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't what Gamergate was about.

P sure it was
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hockeybub89
10/28/17 8:34:35 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Because SJWism became a thing and certain shitty gamers wanted to band together and fight it using some cover issue like "ethics in gaming journalism".

This.
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CiIantro
10/28/17 8:39:29 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Because SJWism became a thing and certain shitty gamers wanted to band together and fight it using some cover issue like "ethics in gaming journalism".

Treating people with respect doesnt make you a SJW. Neckbeards just got pissed when someone suggested that women shouldnt be portrayed as sex-slaves in games. I mean seriously, look at this crap:

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jayj420
10/28/17 8:41:15 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Because SJWism became a thing and certain shitty gamers wanted to band together and fight it using some cover issue like "ethics in gaming journalism".

Treating people with respect doesnt make you a SJW. Neckbeards just got pissed when someone suggested that women shouldnt be portrayed as sex-slaves in games. I mean seriously, look at this crap:

BBFcqMk

That is pretty much everything that is wrong with gaming communities in a nut shell.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/28/17 8:41:39 PM
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TC how much skin should videogame characters be allowed to show???
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Gafemage
10/28/17 8:42:33 PM
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Samurontai posted...
WizardPowers posted...
gaming "journalism"

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Vyrulisse
10/28/17 8:42:41 PM
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It wasn't. It was a meme that got turned into a boogeyman for all the wrong in the world of videogames by people who got worked into a shoot.
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jayj420
10/28/17 8:43:27 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
TC how much skin should videogame characters be allowed to show???

Do what you want, just don't expect people to respect it or take you seriously.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/28/17 8:44:14 PM
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jayj420 posted...
Do what you want,


oh okay my b

thought you were looking to force people to make art in only a certain style or something
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jayj420
10/28/17 8:44:26 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
It wasn't. It was a meme that got turned into a boogeyman for all the wrong in the world of videogames by people who got worked into a shoot.

It is essentially the Infowars of gaming news.
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jayj420
10/28/17 8:45:19 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
jayj420 posted...
Do what you want,


oh okay my b

thought you were looking to force people to make art in only a certain style or something

I think you should be able to enjoy whatever you like so long as it isn't hurting anyone, not my problem at least.
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Broseph_Stalin
10/28/17 8:46:03 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
TheMikh posted...
CiIantro posted...
Women deserve to be treated with respect, and anyone who says otherwise is disgusting.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't what Gamergate was about.


It actually is, the journalism meme was something invented after they got caught harassing that one girl.
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m_mungmung
10/28/17 8:47:39 PM
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AlisLandale
10/28/17 9:08:38 PM
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Every couple of years there's a scandal in the VG Journalism industry that rustles the internet's collective jimmies.

The one I always remember was Kane and Lynch getting a Gamespot reviewer fired. (And I'm pretty sure that's how GiantBomb got started, out of that fiasco)

"Gamergate" started as a reaction to the allegations of a woman using sex to pay off reviewers, which would be right in line with the traditional "rabble rabble corrupt journalism rabble" thing that always ends up happening. It just so happened that this time, it turned into a shitshow.
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A_Good_Boy
10/28/17 9:13:40 PM
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A woman had sex and neckbeards all over the net just had to get involved in other people's personal lives. I have no clue what death and rape threats have to do with games journalism but to some gamers they're just part and parcel.
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AlisLandale
10/28/17 9:14:38 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
A woman had sex and neckbeards all over the net just had to get involved in other people's personal lives. I have no clue what death and rape threats have to do with games journalism but to some gamers they're just part and parcel.


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NibeIungsnarf
10/28/17 9:19:16 PM
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Because video game journalists didn't like being called out on their collusion and the general idea that they should use ethical standards in their work so they instead tried to pretend that people who called them out on it were a group of dedicated sexist harassers.
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creativerealms
10/28/17 9:19:39 PM
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IT was never a thing.
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CiIantro
10/28/17 10:19:46 PM
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bump
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Blo
10/28/17 10:24:09 PM
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I'm glad people aggrieved over nothing never became a powerful force in this country.
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EverDownward
10/28/17 10:29:57 PM
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It's leaked that a woman had sex in exchange for positive press on her game. People naturally discuss it on forums and question if it's true or not (some shitpost, but there is legitimate discussion). Forums and websites lose their shit and shut down any and all discussion on the topic, trying extremely hard to suppress the flow of information and communication involving said favor.

Naturally, this doesn't quell the discussion and instead fans it even more. Where people can, they make a big stink about it because if the topic wasn't important then so many sites wouldn't make such an organized move to quash people talking. Shortly thereafter, many sites come out with strangely identically titled articles about how "gamers are dead," and "gamers don't need to be your audience." Many people ask a very pertinent question: "Why is this woman so important that we can't talk about what did or did not happen?"

What would have likely died in the matter of a week or two is now something that grew so large it's talked about three plus years later. Had the sites not made such a concerted effort to halt natural discussion, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.
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RebelElite791
10/28/17 10:31:14 PM
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EverDownward posted...
It's leaked that a woman had sex in exchange for positive press on her game

No, her angry ex made it up and it's been proven false. There was nothing to support it at the time. And there are fucking chatlogs of Gamerbabys saying their goal was to harass her into killing herself.
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EverDownward
10/28/17 10:33:10 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...

No, her angry ex made it up and it's been proven false

It's not important if the woman did or did not do a thing. It's that everybody everywhere got real antsy that a rumor was being discussed on what is widely known as a freely and loosely regulated frontier.
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ledbowman
10/28/17 10:34:55 PM
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"A girl criticized my game so I'm a fascist now"
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MangaFan462
10/28/17 10:35:44 PM
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Basically it was bored 4channers (99% anonymous users) vs nasty femtrolls (stupid people using their real identities online)

Marked by parentheses is the key to the madness and overall hilariousness.
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lightwarrior78
10/28/17 10:37:14 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Because video game journalists didn't like being called out on their collusion and the general idea that they should use ethical standards in their work so they instead tried to pretend that people who called them out on it were a group of dedicated sexist harassers.


Not even collusion so much as thinking journalism is one sided unresearched op ed writing.

And sadly, we have different views of respect. I respect women too much to think that I should condescend to them by saying everything they do is all good and correct and perfect and never ask them to do better than they are now while others seem to think respect comes with total agreement and submission to anything said.
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Frolex
10/28/17 10:38:02 PM
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EverDownward posted...
It's not important if the woman did or did not do a thing.


there you go tc, that covers about everything you need to know about gamergate
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EverDownward
10/28/17 10:41:51 PM
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Frolex posted...
EverDownward posted...
It's not important if the woman did or did not do a thing.


there you go tc, that covers about everything you need to know about gamergate

How about you acknowledge the rest of what I said, instead of cherry picking it.
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Shadow20201
10/28/17 11:10:46 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
EverDownward posted...
It's leaked that a woman had sex in exchange for positive press on her game

No, her angry ex made it up and it's been proven false. There was nothing to support it at the time. And there are fucking chatlogs of Gamerbabys saying their goal was to harass her into killing herself.

Her ex never implied it. He only named a few people. It was youtubers who first made the implication, several days after. Plus he was in the credits of the game. No disclosure. The chatlogs are of edgy 4-channers doing what edgy 4-channers do.
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RebelElite791
10/29/17 1:27:04 AM
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Frolex posted...
EverDownward posted...
It's not important if the woman did or did not do a thing.


there you go tc, that covers about everything you need to know about gamergate

This lol.

And boy was Gamergate ever the canary in the coalmine for the online alt-right
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TheMikh
10/29/17 2:43:19 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
And boy was Gamergate ever the canary in the coalmine for the online alt-right

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MC_BatCommander
10/29/17 3:10:24 AM
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TheMikh posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
And boy was Gamergate ever the canary in the coalmine for the online alt-right

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/841/842/7e1.png


Does that have a source
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Shadow20201
10/29/17 3:49:04 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
TheMikh posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
And boy was Gamergate ever the canary in the coalmine for the online alt-right

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/841/842/7e1.png


Does that have a source

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/841/165/230.png

Although some have said that the political compass website tends to skew towards left/libertarian with it's questions and could be biased.
Here is something a little more in depth;
goo.gl/KzavYi
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Esrac
10/29/17 5:31:49 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
TheMikh posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
And boy was Gamergate ever the canary in the coalmine for the online alt-right

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/841/842/7e1.png


Does that have a source


I think its hard to really get a grasp on Gamergate political leanings because it's a movement of loosely affiliated and mostly anonymous individuals and no real barrier to entry. So, yeah, you can expect to find conservative or alt-right posters and some centrist or moderately left leaning posters too.

For what its worth, here are some articles written by a journalist who was looking into Gamergate and surveying it's supporters:

http://www.gameobjective.com/2016/11/21/no-gamergate-is-not-right-wing/

https://medium.com/@Brad_Glasgow/the-gamergate-survey-and-book-methodology-and-faq-42793440c612

And here's a little article I found about the earliest days of Gamergate, if that's your kinda thing:

https://medium.com/@KingFrostFive/gamergate-august-2014-revisited-3b41832c061b
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Cookie Bag
10/29/17 5:51:39 AM
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I still don't understand in what the fuck this whole thing devolved into.

Didn't it start with this one chick who cheated on this one guy with 5 other guys, and the guy said she ruined his life, and that she did that to further her career in game journalism?
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