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Zeus
11/23/17 9:52:36 PM
#151:


HornedLion posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Maybe some people in la la land are focused on that but the rest of us are looking at that damning WikiLeaks correspondence and actions


Whats crazy is if they get away with it.

Someone captured my thoughts completely when they questioned Sessions this past week. Asking him why its okay for him to perjure himself on 3 separate occasions and never correct himself until AFTER it was found out that he lied but... but... but he completely fucked over a police officer who lied once, AND corrected his testimony BEFORE anyone found out about his initial mess up. What did Sessions do to that officer? Had him fired AND charged.


Given that officials frequently perjure themselves, it's not quite as damning as you'd like it to be. And, generally speaking, people who sit lower on the totem pole are more likely to receive consequences for their mistakes.... granted, that's overlooking that the nature of the perjuries may have been different. I'm not sure what the cop claimed before correcting himself. While it's always fun to claim, "well, somebody did this once and he did it three times!", the nature of the offenses will vary.

Doctor Foxx posted...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-investigation-jared-kushner-worried-mueller-get-president-a8068506.html

FCC is the big news this week


lol, more anti-Trump porn? While you can keep pleasuring your overzealous mind with the notion that Trump's days are numbered, unsourced claims about somebody being "worried" based on the alleged word of an unnamed friend is of virtually no value or import. Frankly, it does little more than to demonstrate horseshoe theory since, generally speaking, you were rational enough to not spread this kind of reporting about Obama.
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Doctor Foxx
11/28/17 1:43:10 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
11/29/17 3:46:46 PM
#153:


Zeus posted...
Given that officials frequently perjure themselves, it's not quite as damning as you'd like it to be.

If it was Hillary you'd be callin for her head.
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Zeus
11/29/17 5:26:12 PM
#154:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Flynn plea deal?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-flynns-lawyer-meets-members-special-counsels-team/story?id=51412187


Scandal hot tub time machine? This was something people were claiming was happening like six months ago. At any rate, there's still nothing to suggest he has anything to offer and his particular crimes had nothing to do with the campaign.
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Doctor Foxx
12/01/17 8:34:12 PM
#155:


i came here to say lol
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RCtheWSBC
12/01/17 8:42:13 PM
#156:


Doctor Foxx posted...
i came here to say lol

indeed!
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Jen0125
12/01/17 8:43:25 PM
#157:


RCtheWSBC posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
i came here to say lol

indeed!


I'll join
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Zeus
12/01/17 8:44:35 PM
#158:


Doctor Foxx posted...
i came here to say lol


Considering that most newly elected politicians have representatives meet *before* officially taking office -- including Obama -- these charges are more than a little.... Trumped up. Granted, the real crime could be lying to the FBI about having that meeting but no matter what it's silly.
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Mead
12/01/17 8:44:47 PM
#159:


I too shall lol
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RCtheWSBC
12/01/17 8:45:40 PM
#160:


lol more, my sweets
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Melon_Master
12/01/17 8:59:11 PM
#161:


lol
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SushiSquid
12/01/17 9:02:39 PM
#162:


Zeus, Robert Mueller accepted a plea from the guy. You honestly think that would have happened had he not had something really big to give up? Also, it's one thing to meet with foreign agents. It's another to plot with them to sabotage current US policy. After inauguration, that's dumb, but totally legal because you're the new administration. Before inauguration, even if it's after the election, that's illegal.

Oh, and lol.
https://politics.theonion.com/mueller-well-we-got-the-liar-probes-over-1820920710
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Doctor Foxx
12/01/17 9:07:10 PM
#163:


Zeus posted...
This was something people were claiming was happening like six months ago.

What, you mean when Comey was investigating and later fired?

About that...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/flynns-plea-raises-new-questions-about-whether-trump-obstructed-justice/547328/
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knivesX2004
12/01/17 9:56:36 PM
#164:


Jen0125 posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
i came here to say lol

indeed!


I'll join

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Zeus
12/03/17 12:49:45 AM
#165:


SushiSquid posted...
Zeus, Robert Mueller accepted a plea from the guy. You honestly think that would have happened had he not had something really big to give up? Also, it's one thing to meet with foreign agents. It's another to plot with them to sabotage current US policy. After inauguration, that's dumb, but totally legal because you're the new administration. Before inauguration, even if it's after the election, that's illegal.


Two... no, three things:

1) After election before inauguration that FREQUENTLY happens. The fact that it's only being pressed against somebody associated with Trump rather than the dozens of administrations before him where the same had happened reeks of partisan hackery. And, as noted on NPR, he might see no punishment on that charge

2) Uh, what? How was discussing sanctions -- something to change with the incoming president -- "sabotaging US policy" considering that you can basically expect things to change with the new boss and, again, this is something MULTIPLE -- if not every -- president's administration has done in the past and nobody would be batting an eye at it if not for the new Red Scare.

3) The idea that he took a plea and that it means anything is at this juncture pure speculation, given that we don't know anything regarding the nature of whatever deal might have been made. It might not even pertain to the election, but instead Flynn's other dealings in Russia.

Doctor Foxx posted...
Zeus posted...
This was something people were claiming was happening like six months ago.

What, you mean when Comey was investigating and later fired?

About that...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/flynns-plea-raises-new-questions-about-whether-trump-obstructed-justice/547328/


Which is a weak claim on countless levels, especially considering that Flynn is being singled out for doing EXACTLY what others did in the past but nobody gave a fuck until political opportunists wanted to exploit it, either to protect the establishment or to further an embedded US political agenda pertaining to a new cold war.
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EvilMegas
12/03/17 1:24:50 PM
#166:


Man you really well go to any lengths for you guy.
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Doctor Foxx
12/03/17 1:44:41 PM
#167:


EvilMegas posted...
Man you really well go to any lengths for you guy.

I hope it at least pays well to throw out your dignity
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Melon_Master
12/03/17 4:33:05 PM
#168:


Doctor Foxx posted...
EvilMegas posted...
Man you really well go to any lengths for you guy.

I hope it at least pays well to throw out your dignity

I honestly think he sees this as his civic duty.
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knivesX2004
12/03/17 4:36:21 PM
#169:


Trump's defense to his stupid tweet is literally
"I didn't tweet that because I don't have control over my twitter account".
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
12/03/17 4:42:49 PM
#170:


EvilMegas posted...
Man you really well go to any lengths for you guy.

Trump asked him to be incel?
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Zeus
12/03/17 7:45:52 PM
#171:


EvilMegas posted...
Man you really well go to any lengths for you guy.


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Doctor Foxx posted...
EvilMegas posted...
Man you really well go to any lengths for you guy.

I hope it at least pays well to throw out your dignity


Says the disinformation agent trumping up a practice that virtually every president has engaged in, to some extent. To call this farce anything but what it is would be sacrificing my dignity.

Melon_Master posted...
I honestly think he sees this as his civic duty.


No, I see this as I see it. A red herring is a red herring is a red herring. So far there's been NOTHING to suggest that this is anything but a witch hunt, particularly when people are being charged for engaging in a widely-used practice for which people hadn't been charged in the past. And if you don't see it that way, you're looking at things through a partisan lens. When it comes to alleged collusion -- the whole reason for this -- there's been nothing of substance so far.

knivesX2004 posted...
Trump's defense to his stupid tweet is literally
"I didn't tweet that because I don't have control over my twitter account".
Nice.


He says forgetting the Twitter blowup that happened with Colbert some years back.
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SushiSquid
12/03/17 8:34:11 PM
#172:


Zeus, you're not allowed to make policy plans with foreign agents before inauguration. Period. After election you can meet with foreign agents, but you can't undermine the current administration's policies because you aren't allowed to act as an agent of the United States yet. Hence doing so was illegal for Flynn, and ordering him to do so was illegal for whoever did that (reports are it may have been Kushner). Obviously Mueller has found something pretty interesting during the investigation, or Flynn wouldn't have been given a plea deal and started acting as a cooperative witness. That stuff isn't just given away.
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Zeus
12/03/17 9:52:53 PM
#173:


SushiSquid posted...
Zeus, you're not allowed to make policy plans with foreign agents before inauguration. Period. After election you can meet with foreign agents, but you can't undermine the current administration's policies because you aren't allowed to act as an agent of the United States yet. Hence doing so was illegal for Flynn, and ordering him to do so was illegal for whoever did that (reports are it may have been Kushner). Obviously Mueller has found something pretty interesting during the investigation, or Flynn wouldn't have been given a plea deal and started acting as a cooperative witness. That stuff isn't just given away.


This is shit that happens with *every* incoming administration. Period. Yet these other administrations haven't been charged. Comma. If it it's illegal for it to happen, why just single out this administration? Question mark. Could this double standard be indicative of something larger? Exclamation point.
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ClarkDuke
12/03/17 10:37:27 PM
#174:


Wish I was deluded like Zeus, no thinking, repeat everything tweeted by an elderly racist with dementia, ok?
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Doctor Foxx
12/06/17 9:45:06 PM
#175:


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/whistleblower-flynn-told-ex-partner-russia-sanctions-would-be-ripped-n827031

Donald Trump was just 11 minutes into his presidency when his choice for national security adviser, Michael Flynn, texted a former business partner to say an ambitious U.S. collaboration with Russia to build nuclear reactors in the Middle East was "good to go," according to a new whistleblower account.

As Trump delivered his inaugural address, says the unnamed whistleblower, Flynn directed Alex Copson, managing director of ACU Strategic Partners, to inform their business partners "to put things in place."

The whistleblower also says that Flynn assured Copson that U.S. sanctions on Russia that could block the nuclear project would be "ripped up" once Trump was inside the White House.


7nNpqAZ

Couldn't even wait through the dang inauguration to be texting. Look at that smiling face
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knivesX2004
12/06/17 9:52:32 PM
#176:


Have we talked about his "speech" where he had a fucking stroke and couldn't talk yet?
God blesh the united shtaysh.
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Zeus
12/06/17 10:00:54 PM
#177:


Doctor Foxx posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/whistleblower-flynn-told-ex-partner-russia-sanctions-would-be-ripped-n827031

Donald Trump was just 11 minutes into his presidency when his choice for national security adviser, Michael Flynn, texted a former business partner to say an ambitious U.S. collaboration with Russia to build nuclear reactors in the Middle East was "good to go," according to a new whistleblower account.

As Trump delivered his inaugural address, says the unnamed whistleblower, Flynn directed Alex Copson, managing director of ACU Strategic Partners, to inform their business partners "to put things in place."

The whistleblower also says that Flynn assured Copson that U.S. sanctions on Russia that could block the nuclear project would be "ripped up" once Trump was inside the White House.


7nNpqAZ

Couldn't even wait through the dang inauguration to be texting. Look at that smiling face


I'm sure a lot of people were texting during that event! Although texting a "good to go" during the event sounds delightfully cheeky, I guess it's nice to see that *some* business was being conducted on inauguration day.
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Doctor Foxx
12/06/17 10:03:23 PM
#178:


knivesX2004 posted...
Have we talked about his "speech" where he had a fucking stroke and couldn't talk yet?
God blesh the united shtaysh.

Or how that turning down Time's Person of the Year claim by him looks extra tasteless in light of the actual choice
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Doctor Foxx
12/06/17 10:05:13 PM
#179:


Zeus posted...
I'm sure a lot of people were texting during that event! Although texting a "good to go" during the event sounds delightfully cheeky, I guess it's nice to see that *some* business was being conducted on inauguration day.

Sure was some shady fucking business

http://www.newsweek.com/mike-flynns-secret-messages-show-trump-colluded-russia-experts-740246
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SushiSquid
12/06/17 10:07:21 PM
#180:


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42260087

"This is going to make a lot of very wealthy people."
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Zeus
12/06/17 10:12:34 PM
#181:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm sure a lot of people were texting during that event! Although texting a "good to go" during the event sounds delightfully cheeky, I guess it's nice to see that *some* business was being conducted on inauguration day.

Sure was some shady fucking business

http://www.newsweek.com/mike-flynns-secret-messages-show-trump-colluded-russia-experts-740246


"Experts" is a weasel word without any real significance or meaning. More importantly, you can find "experts" to say whatever message you want to get across.

All I see is more of this:

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knivesX2004
12/06/17 10:15:53 PM
#182:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Or how that turning down Time's Person of the Year claim by him looks extra tasteless in light of the actual choice

I was already TIME's person of the year once before. His ego is so big he wants to be it every single year.
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Melon_Master
12/07/17 2:32:13 AM
#183:


Zeus posted...
And if you don't see it that way, you're looking at things through a partisan lens.

What a myopic view to have.
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darkknight109
12/07/17 2:49:40 AM
#184:


I love how the narrative coming out of Trump and his supporters keeps changing.

"There was no communication between my campaign and Russia. Fake news!"
"What about this guy that travelled to Russia to speak on your behalf?"
"Oh... Uh, OK, he had contact with the Russians, but he was a low-level volunteer."
"And this other guy?"
"Also a volunteer. Honestly, I barely new either of them."
"Wait, didn't your son meet with a Russian government official who claimed she had dirt on Hillary Clinton? And what about Sessions and his meetings with Kislyak?"
"OK, fine, we met with the Russians but it was all totally harmless stuff! All above board, don't worry about it."
"By the way, your former national security advisor was just charged with federal offences and took a plea deal to roll on someone higher up."
"Um... fake news?"
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Doctor Foxx
12/08/17 1:15:22 PM
#185:


Gosh I thought those messages were the only things WikiLeaks sent to the Trump campaign

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/email-effort-give-trump-campaign-wikileaks-documents/index.html

Guess not!

Tweeted by Jr the day the WikiLeaks keys were sent to the campaign:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/772555964327288832
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Melon_Master
12/08/17 3:09:04 PM
#186:


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