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http://people.com/chica/moana-costume-controversy-cultural-appropriation/

Little girls dressing up as Moana for Halloween is now considered racist.
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That poor kid never had a chance.
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For fake outrage, virtue signaling liberals, Halloween is their Christmas.
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The Admiral posted...

For fake outrage, virtue signaling liberals, Halloween is their Christmas.

Though Christians have plenty of fake outrage for Halloween as well.
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Silly to get that triggered over a fictional character.
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Lol I'm a liberal and don't associate with this bullshit, I'd bet most of us don't
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Wait, Sachi Feris said this? THE Sachi Feris? The blogger and part time elementary school Spanish teacher Sachi Ferris????

...Ignore this person and dress your children up however you want. Many liberals (the non crazy ones) will be dressing their kids up Moana because no one knows, nor cares, who this person is. Nor should they. I'm bored with "this person has a blog or a Twitter account and therefore represents all of this group" thing. It's lazy on all sides.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

Lol I'm a liberal and don't associate with this bullshit, I'd bet most of us don't

The US really needs an officially recognized name for these far leftists much in the way the right has the tea party or the alt-right. I'm surprised Dems in general haven't tried to create one if only to clearly separate themselves from the crazies shitting up the left's reputation.
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"my culture is not a costume, except when it is"
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Remember TC if all liberals are the same then so are all of you Repubs.
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creativerealms posted...

The Admiral posted...

For fake outrage, virtue signaling liberals, Halloween is their Christmas.

Though Christians have plenty of fake outrage for Halloween as well.

>Halloween is literally a feast day in the Christian calendar
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s0nicfan posted...

The US really needs an officially recognized name for these far leftists much in the way the right has the tea party or the alt-righ

Far leftists are the Communist/anarchist types. These SJWs are still liberals, just with heads-up-their ass views on too many social issues.
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That_Happened posted...

Wait, Sachi Feris said this? THE Sachi Feris? The blogger and part time elementary school Spanish teacher Sachi Ferris????

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/23/halloween-cultural-appropriation-questions/780479001/

Susan Scafidi, author of Who Owns Culture: Appropriation and Authenticity in American Law, said the debate really took off in 2015 when Yale warned its students not to wear certain costumes on Halloween, provoking "a moment of outrage on both sides that really polarized the issue," she said.

OK, but what about the thousands of white kids who want to dress up like a character from Moana for Halloween?

Scafidi said to determine whether you may be crossing a line, look at the Maui costume Disney pulled off its shelves.

"This costume was essentially his brown skin with the tattoos and the little loincloth in the middle. And people looked at it and said, 'you know, I'm not sure if having a child of some other color wearing this character's brown skin to masquerade is necessarily very respectful or a good idea.'"

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s0nicfan posted...

The US really needs an officially recognized name for these far leftists much in the way the right has the tea party or the alt-right. I'm surprised Dems in general haven't tried to create one if only to clearly separate themselves from the crazies shitting up the left's reputation.

We could just call them bloggers. Lol
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/disney-maui-costume-brownface_us_57e0c4cde4b08cb14097b892

Disney Pulled That Offensive Moana Costume. Heres Why It Matters.

Less than a week after Disney debuted kids costumes for their upcoming film Moana, the company has pulled several products from their website after the items sparked outrage for appearing to promote brownface.

Representatives from Disney told The Huffington Post on Wednesday that the decision to pull the items came when it was brought to their attention that they were viewed as offensive.

Among the removed items were a Halloween costume and pajama set for kids, both representing the demigod Maui, the fictional co-star played by Dwayne The Rock Johnson.

The team behind Moana has taken great care to respect the cultures of the Pacific Islands that inspired the film, and we regret that the Maui costume has offended some, a Disney representative told HuffPost on Wednesday. We sincerely apologize and are pulling the costume from our website and stores.

Both the Maui costume and pajamas are essentially brown skin bodysuits, adorned with Polynesian tattoos and a faux-leaf skirt. Also listed on the Disney store site: two sets of wigs with thick, dark hair to top off the Maui and Moana look.

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Veggeta X posted...

Remember TC if all liberals are the same then so are all of you Repubs.

That's why I said get your lot under control, because I know most liberals here are more reasonable than this. And I'm an independent.
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Everyone: Haha, look at the way Disney has portrayed racist cultural stereotypes over the years
Everyone else: Haha yeah it's so blatant
Everyone: Like seriously this is the most racist shit ever, hahahahaha
Everyone else: yeah it's ridiculous
Someone: Well...maybe we shouldn't support that? Or at least not actively participate? Or maybe we should find a way to celebrate different cultures instead of mock them?
Everyone all together: wtf??? wow jesus stop being so sensitive bunch of snowflakes cucks liberals lolololololol
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Huffington Post is literally Lib central so can't say I'm surprised to see this
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https://twitter.com/Cosmopolitan/status/922601309173202944
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Disney actually pulled the costumes? Wow.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Disney actually pulled the costumes? Wow.

that was last year
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pinky0926 posted...

Everyone: Haha, look at the way Disney has portrayed racist cultural stereotypes over the years
Everyone else: Haha yeah it's so blatant
Everyone: Like seriously this is the most racist shit ever, hahahahaha
Everyone else: yeah it's ridiculous
Someone: Well...maybe we shouldn't support that? Or at least not actively participate?
Everyone all together: wtf??? wow jesus stop being so sensitive bunch of snowflakes cucks liberals lolololololol

I'm pretty sure when people talk about Disney's racist cultural stereotypes they're talking about years and years ago. Currently Disney goes out of their way to make culturally accurate characters based on actual folk tales and legends. Moana isn't a racist character, and kids dressing up as her isn't cultural appropriation.

This whole thing puts minorities in a weird spot when they demand better representation in film, but then complain the instant they're represented and get the standard movie character treatment. It's not going to end well for them.
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That_Happened posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Everyone: Haha, look at the way Disney has portrayed racist cultural stereotypes over the years
Everyone else: Haha yeah it's so blatant
Everyone: Like seriously this is the most racist shit ever, hahahahaha
Everyone else: yeah it's ridiculous
Someone: Well...maybe we shouldn't support that? Or at least not actively participate?
Everyone all together: wtf??? wow jesus stop being so sensitive bunch of snowflakes cucks liberals lolololololol

I'm pretty sure when people talk about Disney's racist cultural stereotypes they're talking about years and years ago. Currently Disney goes out of their way to make culturally accurate characters based on actual folk tales and legends. Moana isn't a racist character, and kids dressing up as her isn't cultural appropriation.

This whole thing puts minorities in a weird spot when they demand better representation in film, but then complain the instant they're represented and get the standard movie character treatment. It's not going to end well for them.

Well that's also true.

I don't think it's wrong for kids to want to dress up as their favourite disney characters, but it pays for people to at least be aware of and respectful to the cultures they're adopting. That's all I'm saying.
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That_Happened posted...

This whole thing puts minorities in a weird spot when they demand better representation in film, but then complain the instant they're represented and get the standard movie character treatment. It's not going to end well for them.

interesting point
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This brand of cultural sensitivity is a feature not a bug, sweetie.

One might compare it to mass shootings, bathroom bills, and teen pregnancy.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

https://twitter.com/Cosmopolitan/status/922601309173202944

Recognize this: Moana is a really special character to young girls of Polynesian descent who have never seen a Disney Princess who looks like them, just like how Tiana from The Princess and the Frog likely resonated with young Black women who had waited decades to see themselves represented. White girls have plenty of princesses to choose from there's Belle, Ariel, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty you get the idea. If your Caucasian son or daughter doesn't get to be exactly what they wanted for Halloween, encourage them to take a step back and realize that they're awash in privileges that the real Moanas and Tianas of the world will likely never see, because the world is full of racist assholes.

This writer can go fuck themselves. If my kid wanted to dress up like Moana it's because she loves the movie and wants to be like her. It's flattery without even a hint of malice.
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pinky0926 posted...

I don't think it's wrong for kids to want to dress up as their favourite disney characters, but it pays for people to at least be aware of and respectful to the cultures they're adopting. That's all I'm saying.

in order for a black girl to dress up as princess Belle from beauty and the beast, does she need to know and be respectful of 19th Century French culture?
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s0nicfan posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

Lol I'm a liberal and don't associate with this bullshit, I'd bet most of us don't

The US really needs an officially recognized name for these far leftists much in the way the right has the tea party or the alt-right

I still say Ctrl-Left would be very fitting, seeing as a bunch of them really think they should be able to control what others can think.
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Lol. Imagine complaining about appropriation when you appropriate someone else's culture everyday.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

I don't think it's wrong for kids to want to dress up as their favourite disney characters, but it pays for people to at least be aware of and respectful to the cultures they're adopting. That's all I'm saying.

in order for a black girl to dress up as princess Belle from beauty and the beast, does she need to know and be respectful of 19th Century French culture?

I think it wouldn't hurt for her parents to be, at least.

I'm under no illusions that 5 year olds don't care and shouldn't care, but this article was never written for 5 year olds.
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pinky0926 posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

I don't think it's wrong for kids to want to dress up as their favourite disney characters, but it pays for people to at least be aware of and respectful to the cultures they're adopting. That's all I'm saying.

in order for a black girl to dress up as princess Belle from beauty and the beast, does she need to know and be respectful of 19th Century French culture?

I think it wouldn't hurt for her parents to be, at least.

:/

C'mon man.
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see

belle is wearing a dress like this to the ball is she not?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/54/7a/1e/547a1e3ef4dddddf0b5c241975cc14c9.jpg

but it is ok for girls to not know anything about or respect this culture right? because this is part of a white nationality's culture?

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist255-s01/paris_homework/0486298191.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif

https://ephemeralnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/demorestmagazine.jpg

and here is the peasant outfit

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-eb0fe39dcc6b63e89695e728782d1ee6-c

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c4df22d791e2da3ce681bb4bd196fb95-c

pinky0926 posted...

I think it wouldn't hurt for her parents to be, at least.

k

least you are consistent
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That_Happened posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

https://twitter.com/Cosmopolitan/status/922601309173202944

Recognize this: Moana is a really special character to young girls of Polynesian descent who have never seen a Disney Princess who looks like them, just like how Tiana from The Princess and the Frog likely resonated with young Black women who had waited decades to see themselves represented. White girls have plenty of princesses to choose from there's Belle, Ariel, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty you get the idea. If your Caucasian son or daughter doesn't get to be exactly what they wanted for Halloween, encourage them to take a step back and realize that they're awash in privileges that the real Moanas and Tianas of the world will likely never see, because the world is full of racist assholes.

This writer can go fuck themselves. If my kid wanted to dress up like Moana it's because she loves the movie and wants to be like her. It's flattery without even a hint of malice.

And this is the typical defensiveness we've all come to expect whenever anyone brings this topic up.

"I shouldn't have to think about this. My daughter shouldn't have to carry this baggage. We just want to enjoy the Halloween season without politics."

The politics have always been there. We just didn't talk about it in the mainstream.
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hollow_shrine posted...

And this is the typical defensiveness we've all come to expect whenever anyone brings this topic up.

"I shouldn't have to think about this. My daughter shouldn't have to carry this baggage. We just want to enjoy the Halloween season without politics."

The politics have always been there. We just didn't talk about it in the mainstream.

but this reasoning say that white girls can't dress like Moana because they don't know or come from polynesian culture

would you then say polynesian girls cannot dress up like Belle, Cinderalla, or the little mermaid since it is not from their culture?
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That_Happened posted...

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C'mon man.

It's a silly comparison, but I just think this article is a lot milder than people are giving it credit for. The mother here is saying she wants to be respectful of polynesian culture. So what's wrong with that? That's a much better attitude than someone being wilfully ignorant because they have a stick up their ass over what constitutes "PC gone mad".
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hollow_shrine posted...

And this is the typical defensiveness we've all come to expect whenever anyone brings this topic up.

"I shouldn't have to think about this. My daughter shouldn't have to carry this baggage. We just want to enjoy the Halloween season without politics."

And this is the correct way to think about this particular case. The woman allowed her daughter to dress up like Elsa because she's a "made up character" but then claims that Moana represents all of Polynesia. Moana is an islander who one day finds out she is the chosen one of the ocean, and her grandma becomes a fucking bad-ass stingray and helps guide her to find a demigod who stole precious gem from a volcano. Moana is a made-up character too.
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Sparksfanboy posted...

The right keeps wacking the dog to make it bark. Sooner or later it's going to get off it's chain. And then we're all screwed.

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so you believe these articles and cosmo posted this because some rightwing person provoked them to do so?

rather than them seeing their fellow left friends dressing up their kids and being upset?
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darkphoenix181 posted...

but this reasoning say that white girls can't dress like Moana because they don't know or come from polynesian culture

would you then say polynesian girls cannot dress up like Belle, Cinderalla, or the little mermaid since it is not from their culture?

Maybe.

"Haven't you given whiteness enough? Like they don't define your beauty standards, and your feelings of self worth? Like you don't spend evening after evening playing with their dolls and watching their movies, imagining yourself in their shoes, shoes which you would never be able to really wear even if you did have all their money and a man. After all that, we're going to give them your adoration, too? Child, what do I need to do to help you learn to love yourself?"
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Lol. Imagine complaining about appropriation when you appropriate someone else's culture everyday.

you know, as white people, I say we start a movement "PoC using combustible engines is cultural appropriation"
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hollow_shrine posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

but this reasoning say that white girls can't dress like Moana because they don't know or come from polynesian culture

would you then say polynesian girls cannot dress up like Belle, Cinderalla, or the little mermaid since it is not from their culture?

Maybe.

"Haven't you given whiteness enough? Like they don't define your beauty standards, and your feelings of self worth? Like you don't spend evening after evening playing with their dolls and watching their movies, imagining yourself in their shoes, shoes which you would never be able to really wear even if you did have all their money and a man. After all that, we're going to give them your adoration, too? Child, what do I need to do to help you learn to love yourself?"

Ah so you're trying to keep the races divided. Got it.
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pinky0926 posted...

That_Happened posted...

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C'mon man.

It's a silly comparison, but I just think this article is a lot milder than people are giving it credit for. The mother here is saying she wants to be respectful of polynesian culture. So what's wrong with that? That's a much better attitude than someone being wilfully ignorant because they have a stick up their ass over what constitutes "PC gone mad".

Nobody cares about respecting culture during Halloween. You have stupid costumes from all cultures that are offensive.

You're not going to see a black guy say "hmmm maybe i shouldn't wear that leprechaun costume because the Irish might find that offensive, also red heads"

Literally nobody cares about this except crybabies. Don't live in a multicultural country if this offends you.

(Not you personally)
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hollow_shrine posted...

"Haven't you given whiteness enough? Like they don't define your beauty standards, and your feelings of self worth? Like you don't spend evening after evening playing with their dolls and watching their movies, imagining yourself in their shoes, shoes which you would never be able to really wear even if you did have all their money and a man. After all that, we're going to give them your adoration, too? Child, what do I need to do to help you learn to love yourself?"

now think about this logic for a second

whiteness has power because it sets the beauty standard

how does it do that?

little girls see white people on tv and want to look and dress like them

are you following me here?

that gives whiteness power and makes it the beauty standard

NOW white girls want to dress and look like non-white people

but instead of allowing this to flourish into power and a new beauty standard

they get chewed out

illogical right?
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Sparksfanboy posted...

You built the SJW monster, not us. We don't want it. You just want it as a convenient strawman for when you paint yourselves into a corner.
Now they're actually real, actually getting power, and actually affecting change and nobody can stop them.

I personally did?
wtf even is this post

and lol "not all liberals!"

"that just some random dude, he don't represent anyone!"

but now YOU created blah blah blah
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fire810 posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Lol. Imagine complaining about appropriation when you appropriate someone else's culture everyday.

you know, as white people, I say we start a movement "PoC using combustible engines is cultural appropriation"

And planes, and cars, and computers, coffee shops, european literature, dance, phone's, architecture etc.

Their is so much appropriation of our cultures!
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Oh and especially folklore and mythos. That's gets appropriated from us constantly every single day.

Enough is enough i say!

See how silly that sounds
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