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3khc
10/25/17 10:13:09 PM
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I mean, I'm sure they aren't inherently racist, but many do come off as sorta... intolerant.
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bevan306
10/25/17 10:14:00 PM
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Damn_Underscore
10/25/17 10:14:26 PM
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Do you post on reddit TC?
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Schwarber
10/25/17 10:14:37 PM
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Spooking posted...
I think because Conservatives go based off logic and not emotions.


lol
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3khc
10/25/17 10:14:43 PM
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Spooking posted...
I think because Conservatives go based on logic and not emotions.

What's the logic in denying progress? If that's what happens, I mean. Idk I'm legit just trying to understand.
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Damn_Underscore
10/25/17 10:15:07 PM
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muh progress
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BLAKUboy
10/25/17 10:15:18 PM
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Because they are racist.
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3khc
10/25/17 10:15:19 PM
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@Damn_Underscore nah i dont. Por que?
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GreatEvilEmpire
10/25/17 10:15:43 PM
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They seem racist, but liberals are racist.
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weapon_d00d816
10/25/17 10:15:48 PM
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3khc posted...
Spooking posted...
I think because Conservatives go based on logic and not emotions.

What's the logic in denying progress? If that's what happens, I mean. Idk I'm legit just trying to understand.

Conservatives prefer logic over empathy. Liberals prefer logic over faith.
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Damn_Underscore
10/25/17 10:16:05 PM
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oh because that is a very hive-minded opinion. Most people on reddit would agree with this topic.
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Vicious_Dios
10/25/17 10:16:18 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Because they are racist.


Proof needed.
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3khc
10/25/17 10:17:10 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
They seem racist, but liberals are racist.

Ah, this reminds me. I hate when liberals act intolerant of conservatives and vice versa. I try to tell people they are all acting like hypocrites. The only difference is which side of the fence you stand on.
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Waluigi7
10/25/17 10:18:35 PM
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I think most conservatives aren't actually that racist, they only come off that way because they hate liberals so much.
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3khc
10/25/17 10:18:44 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
3khc posted...
Spooking posted...
I think because Conservatives go based on logic and not emotions.

What's the logic in denying progress? If that's what happens, I mean. Idk I'm legit just trying to understand.

Conservatives prefer logic over empathy. Liberals prefer logic over faith.

What does logic over faith mean?

Damn_Underscore posted...
oh because that is a very hive-minded opinion. Most people on reddit would agree with this topic.

I don't want a hive mind answer. That sounds very biased. I want facts.
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3khc
10/25/17 10:21:53 PM
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Spooking posted...
3khc posted...
What's the logic in denying progress?

For example, illegal aliens: conservatives don't want them here since they have committed a crime, whilst liberal call conservatives racist... because? It's more emotion on the left than it is on the right. I always chalked it up to conservatives being the strict dad, while liberals are the pushover mom.

That's just people being too liberal (ayy) with the word racist. That's what I meant about each side being hypocrites. Judging people based on nothing but where they stand on the matter.
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:24:07 PM
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They seem so racist because they normally are racist

Why do you think they go out of their way to blame every single problem on illegal immigrants and minorities? It's the alt right (the base that supports Trump) that is associated with Nazism and authoritarianism
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Capn Circus
10/25/17 10:28:12 PM
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They "seem so racist" because the very definition of "racism" is being pushed to mean something entirely different from what it actually is.

Want tougher border security? "That's racist". Want to vote against Sanctuary cities harboring known illegal immigrants and breaking federal law? "That's totally racist!" Want to reevaluate Affirmative Action regarding admission and hiring standards? "You're one of the most racist people I've ever met!"
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:28:50 PM
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Capn Circus posted...


I know it must suck coming up with excuses for your racism but no one cares
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Mal_Fet
10/25/17 10:29:35 PM
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Because the left nowadays insists that it's racist to want everyone to play be the same rules and be judged by the same standard.
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3khc
10/25/17 10:29:58 PM
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I think I'm asking the wrong questions. I'm trying to understand the conservative mindset. I don't get why many straight up disagree with progressive liberal views. Like how is that bad
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Damn_Underscore
10/25/17 10:31:22 PM
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"progress" is very subjective
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:31:57 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
"progress" is very subjective


Only when it comes to the conservative mindset of where no progress is progress
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Damn_Underscore
10/25/17 10:33:33 PM
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"Progress" will never be achieved

The enlightened liberals of today will be called bigots by progressives 100 years from now
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/25/17 10:33:40 PM
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not all of them
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:34:48 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
"Progress" will never be achieved

The enlightened liberals of today will be called bigots by progressives 100 years from now


It already has

And yep, kinda like how the slave owning "progressives" of the 17th century are called scum by the progressives if today

It's weird how perspective changes as time moves in and things actually start to progress
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3khc
10/25/17 10:34:54 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
3khc posted...
I think I'm asking the wrong questions. I'm trying to understand the conservative mindset. I don't get why many straight up disagree with progressive liberal views. Like how is that bad


What progressive liberal views do you mean?

Gay marriage, trans rights, minority representation etc.
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:35:29 PM
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3khc posted...
WhinyZach posted...
3khc posted...
I think I'm asking the wrong questions. I'm trying to understand the conservative mindset. I don't get why many straight up disagree with progressive liberal views. Like how is that bad


What progressive liberal views do you mean?

Gay marriage, trans rights, minority representation etc.


Because Christianity has been imbedded into the conservative ideology
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Mal_Fet
10/25/17 10:35:47 PM
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3khc posted...
I don't get why many straight up disagree with progressive liberal views.

Because "progressive" views include Marxism, affirmative action, restrictions on speech, restriction of the right to bear arms, and more government interference in your life in general.
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:36:32 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
3khc posted...
I don't get why many straight up disagree with progressive liberal views.

Because "progressive" views include Marxism, affirmative action, restrictions on speech, restriction of the right to bear arms, and more government interference in your life in general.


False, on just about every front actually

Minus the affirmative action one, I'll give you that much
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cjsdowg
10/25/17 10:37:19 PM
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Spooking posted...
I think because Conservatives go based on logic and not emotions.


Yet they support Trump is is based on nothing but emotion.
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:38:44 PM
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Also lol at @Mal_Fet considering restrictions on free speech to be a liberal viewpoint, when the current president (a conservative backed by conservatives) has openly stated that several news stations should be shut down for being against him

Not to mention the rights huge hate boner for the first amendment lol
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3khc
10/25/17 10:39:23 PM
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@Mal_Fet I don't think anyone is aiming for restrictions on speech. Iirc, it's about accountability.
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Capn Circus
10/25/17 10:39:40 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...


I know it must suck coming up with excuses for your racism but no one cares


Your only further solidifying my point--- you have no argument regarding my specific post.
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Mal_Fet
10/25/17 10:40:39 PM
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3khc posted...
@Mal_Fet I don't think anyone is aiming for restrictions on speech.

Yes they are. Just observe the left's reaction when a conservative speaker has an event on a college campus.
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:41:48 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...


I know it must suck coming up with excuses for your racism but no one cares


Your only further solidifying my point--- you have no argument regarding my specific post.


Why would I bother to argue against things that have been proven completely false?

In fact, why would I bother to argue with a racist who supports a Nazi sympathizer at all?
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3khc
10/25/17 10:42:18 PM
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Spooking posted...
3khc posted...
I think I'm asking the wrong questions. I'm trying to understand the conservative mindset. I don't get why many straight up disagree with progressive liberal views. Like how is that bad

I believe your question was answered by Mal_Fet and Capn_Circus. Regressives and Liberals will pound it in your head that the other side is racist. How are they racist? Who knows, there is never any evidence, they just shout from the roof tops hoping to end whatever debate they are having. Don't support illegal immigration? Racist. Don't support healthcare for all? Racist. Don't have equal amount of races working for a company? That company is racist. It's insane, irrational thought that needs to be combated.

I would try to educate or at least ignore those who freely use the word racist. Just as I would educate/ignore anyone who categorizes minorities as thugs.

Like I said, both sides are pretty much doing the same thing to each other.
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3khc
10/25/17 10:43:12 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
3khc posted...
@Mal_Fet I don't think anyone is aiming for restrictions on speech.

Yes they are. Just observe the left's reaction when a conservative speaker has an event on a college campus.

Those people are wrong. Misguided.
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Samurontai
10/25/17 10:44:41 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
3khc posted...
@Mal_Fet I don't think anyone is aiming for restrictions on speech.

Yes they are. Just observe the left's reaction when a conservative speaker has an event on a college campus.


Yep, because the right totally doesn't do worse over people kneeling for the Anthem, or sitting for the pledge

And Trump definitely didn't call for ending news organizations for speaking poorly of him (sounds kinda like authoritarianism to me )
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50_B_0_X_X_Y_L
10/25/17 10:46:12 PM
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People see in others what they themselves are. Do racists exist? Sure but most case of people calling other people racist are people that them themselves are racist QED
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Capn Circus
10/25/17 10:52:15 PM
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3khc posted...
Spooking posted...
3khc posted...
I think I'm asking the wrong questions. I'm trying to understand the conservative mindset. I don't get why many straight up disagree with progressive liberal views. Like how is that bad

I believe your question was answered by Mal_Fet and Capn_Circus. Regressives and Liberals will pound it in your head that the other side is racist. How are they racist? Who knows, there is never any evidence, they just shout from the roof tops hoping to end whatever debate they are having. Don't support illegal immigration? Racist. Don't support healthcare for all? Racist. Don't have equal amount of races working for a company? That company is racist. It's insane, irrational thought that needs to be combated.

I would try to educate or at least ignore those who freely use the word racist. Just as I would educate/ignore anyone who categorizes minorities as thugs.

Like I said, both sides are pretty much doing the same thing to each other.


Well, then since we've pretty much got things summed up on why conservatives "seem racist"---let us know if any of the things we discussed are actually considered racist to you.

Is opposing sanctuary cities that knowingly harbor illegal immigrants racist to you? Is questioning or proposing alternatives to the current practices of college admissions or affirmative action racist to you? Etc.

What is racist to you? And do you believe many conservatives are guilty of actually being racist? Or are you just asking why the "seem racist", to which I've already answered.
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Capn Circus
10/25/17 10:54:34 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...


I know it must suck coming up with excuses for your racism but no one cares


Your only further solidifying my point--- you have no argument regarding my specific post.


Why would I bother to argue against things that have been proven completely false?

In fact, why would I bother to argue with a racist who supports a Nazi sympathizer at all?


What has been proven false? Are you saying people aren't being called racist for wanting stronger border security and for our nation to actually enforce the laws on the books?
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Mal_Fet
10/25/17 10:55:41 PM
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3khc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
3khc posted...
@Mal_Fet I don't think anyone is aiming for restrictions on speech.

Yes they are. Just observe the left's reaction when a conservative speaker has an event on a college campus.

Those people are wrong. Misguided.

Well yes. Are you willing to handwave all the actually racist conservatives too? Or are you only willing to give a pass to liberals?
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CocteauQuintplt
10/25/17 10:56:47 PM
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Spooking posted...
I think because Conservatives go based on logic and not emotions.


Lol, you're a racist because you are logical?

*facepalm*
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Samurontai
10/25/17 11:00:08 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...


I know it must suck coming up with excuses for your racism but no one cares


Your only further solidifying my point--- you have no argument regarding my specific post.


Why would I bother to argue against things that have been proven completely false?

In fact, why would I bother to argue with a racist who supports a Nazi sympathizer at all?


What has been proven false? Are you saying people aren't being called racist for wanting stronger boarder security and for our nation to actually enforce the laws on the books?


Nope, I'm saying that people are being called racist for blowing the illegal immigration problem extremely out of proportion, and wanting to build the wall as a "statement" rather than for a reason that makes sense (which is understandable as there's no reason to build the wall to begin with)

Nobody is against deporting illegal immigrants. I'm 100% sure Obama set a record for deporting immigrants when he was in charge. It's the fact that he didn't focus on them and make hem a forefront of his platform because it's a non issue that takes care of itself over time. Iirc, net illegal immigration from Mexico is extremely low as well, so there isn't even a need to up border security

TL;DR

The reason you are being called racists is because you're choosing minorities as the source of a problem that doesn't exist (at least not in the proportions that you are claiming). When you are forced to fabricate a news story about a groups of Syrian boys raping a girl in a random town (I'm looking at you Fox News), you're probably racist and have a problem with minorities overall.
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3khc
10/25/17 11:00:20 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
3khc posted...
Spooking posted...
3khc posted...
I think I'm asking the wrong questions. I'm trying to understand the conservative mindset. I don't get why many straight up disagree with progressive liberal views. Like how is that bad

I believe your question was answered by Mal_Fet and Capn_Circus. Regressives and Liberals will pound it in your head that the other side is racist. How are they racist? Who knows, there is never any evidence, they just shout from the roof tops hoping to end whatever debate they are having. Don't support illegal immigration? Racist. Don't support healthcare for all? Racist. Don't have equal amount of races working for a company? That company is racist. It's insane, irrational thought that needs to be combated.

I would try to educate or at least ignore those who freely use the word racist. Just as I would educate/ignore anyone who categorizes minorities as thugs.

Like I said, both sides are pretty much doing the same thing to each other.


Well, then since we've pretty much got things summed up on why conservatives "seem racist"---let us know if any of the things we discussed are actually considered racist to you.

Is opposing sanctuary cities that knowingly harbor illegal immigrants racist to you? Is questioning or proposing alternatives to the current practices of college admissions or affirmative action racist to you? Etc.

What is racist to you? And do you believe many conservatives are guilty of actually being racist? Or are you just asking why the "seem racist", to which I've already answered.

No to all.

I submit to the sociologist definition of racism. Basically, if you use your power and prejudice to keep someone down/oppressed, then that's racism.
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