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Samurontai 10/24/17 4:11:05 PM #51:	It was sufficient to show that a true deity can't achieve "feelings" while a "mortal-turned-deity" can. Sure --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889062241] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote>It was sufficient to show that a true deity can't achieve "feelings" while a "mortal-turned-deity" can. Sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 10/24/17 4:13:56 PM #52:	if you don't like that he died from your sins you have nothing to worry about his death won't forgive your sins because you never believed and were baptised grace is essentially a gift if you reject a gift, you don't own it think about it like this I buy you a gift card to target you say "I don't need that" and when I hand it to you, you slap it away and storm off is it yours? nope either it will stay on the ground and another receive it or I will just take it myself and use it --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:889062415] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote>if you don't like that he died from your sins you have nothing to worry about his death won't forgive your sins because you never believed and were baptised grace is essentially a gift if you reject a gift, you don't own it think about it like this I buy you a gift card to target you say "I don't need that" and when I hand it to you, you slap it away and storm off is it yours? nope either it will stay on the ground and another receive it or I will just take it myself and use it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MLGSerperior111 10/24/17 4:15:11 PM #53:	Kelystic posted... I knock on someone's door.. $20 to mow your lawn? No thanks I step to the side to reveal a fully mowed lawn behind me Yeah, well about that. I did it anyway. Extends hand for payment Pretty much sums up Jesus. Lost_All_Senses posted... I was actually trying to break the high score of sinning so he really set me back. As a christian I find these hilarious --- Stay positive :]]] FC: 0233-0297-6306 IGN: Lucas <cite>MLGSerperior111 posted [p:889062493] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kelystic posted...</cite> <quote>I knock on someone's door.. $20 to mow your lawn? No thanks I step to the side to reveal a fully mowed lawn behind me Yeah, well about that. I did it anyway. Extends hand for payment Pretty much sums up Jesus.</quote> <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>I was actually trying to break the high score of sinning so he really set me back.</quote> As a christian I find these hilarious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalisticWarri0r 10/24/17 4:16:26 PM #54:	Samurontai posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... It's a complex and nuanced theology. There's a lot more to the entire thing than Jesus dying on the cross. The scope of the entire narrative is quite large and involved. It's quite an interesting story and theme, but seeing it in its fullness requires some deep reading of the entire Bible which isn't an easy feat for most people. I've read the entire bible, front to back Sure I thought was interesting when I was a kid, but then I grew up and realized it was full of fallacies, nonsense (omnipotent/Omniscient being cannot have feelings like happiness and sadness, and cannot be surprised by anything or angered by anything, logically speaking) , and had more plot holes than any other medium that had ever existed. It's a fun fairy tale book to read once when you're young and naive, but when you reach that state of adulthood and your naivety drops, you start to realize that it makes absolutely no sense, even if looked at metaphorically rather than literally. And yet you've mentioned no specific fallacies or plot holes. <cite>BalisticWarri0r posted [p:889062573] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>It's a complex and nuanced theology. There's a lot more to the entire thing than Jesus dying on the cross. The scope of the entire narrative is quite large and involved. It's quite an interesting story and theme, but seeing it in its fullness requires some deep reading of the entire Bible which isn't an easy feat for most people.</quote> I've read the entire bible, front to back Sure I thought was interesting when I was a kid, but then I grew up and realized it was full of fallacies, nonsense (omnipotent/Omniscient being cannot have feelings like happiness and sadness, and cannot be surprised by anything or angered by anything, logically speaking) , and had more plot holes than any other medium that had ever existed. It's a fun fairy tale book to read once when you're young and naive, but when you reach that state of adulthood and your naivety drops, you start to realize that it makes absolutely no sense, even if looked at metaphorically rather than literally.</quote> And yet you've mentioned no specific fallacies or plot holes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/24/17 4:21:40 PM #55:	BalisticWarri0r posted... Samurontai posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... It's a complex and nuanced theology. There's a lot more to the entire thing than Jesus dying on the cross. The scope of the entire narrative is quite large and involved. It's quite an interesting story and theme, but seeing it in its fullness requires some deep reading of the entire Bible which isn't an easy feat for most people. I've read the entire bible, front to back Sure I thought was interesting when I was a kid, but then I grew up and realized it was full of fallacies, nonsense (omnipotent/Omniscient being cannot have feelings like happiness and sadness, and cannot be surprised by anything or angered by anything, logically speaking) , and had more plot holes than any other medium that had ever existed. It's a fun fairy tale book to read once when you're young and naive, but when you reach that state of adulthood and your naivety drops, you start to realize that it makes absolutely no sense, even if looked at metaphorically rather than literally. And yet you've mentioned no specific fallacies or plot holes. Nobody asked me to. I will if you want, they're extremely numerous and easy to find lol. Not even sure why anyone would need to ask me to find them, as if you've read the Bible yourself you'd easily know that it's filled to the brim with the things In fact the discussion I just had FLUFFY is a prime example of one of said fallacies --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889062870] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>BalisticWarri0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>It's a complex and nuanced theology. There's a lot more to the entire thing than Jesus dying on the cross. The scope of the entire narrative is quite large and involved. It's quite an interesting story and theme, but seeing it in its fullness requires some deep reading of the entire Bible which isn't an easy feat for most people.</quote> I've read the entire bible, front to back Sure I thought was interesting when I was a kid, but then I grew up and realized it was full of fallacies, nonsense (omnipotent/Omniscient being cannot have feelings like happiness and sadness, and cannot be surprised by anything or angered by anything, logically speaking) , and had more plot holes than any other medium that had ever existed. It's a fun fairy tale book to read once when you're young and naive, but when you reach that state of adulthood and your naivety drops, you start to realize that it makes absolutely no sense, even if looked at metaphorically rather than literally.</quote> And yet you've mentioned no specific fallacies or plot holes.</quote> Nobody asked me to. I will if you want, they're extremely numerous and easy to find lol. Not even sure why anyone would need to ask me to find them, as if you've read the Bible yourself you'd easily know that it's filled to the brim with the things In fact the discussion I just had FLUFFY is a prime example of one of said fallacies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/24/17 4:22:32 PM #56:	Samurontai posted... It was sufficient to show that a true deity can't achieve "feelings" while a "mortal-turned-deity" can. Sure You have no idea what "true deity" means though. You're defining it in a way that benefits your view. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:889062931] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>It was sufficient to show that a true deity can't achieve "feelings" while a "mortal-turned-deity" can. Sure</quote> You have no idea what "true deity" means though. You're defining it in a way that benefits your view.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/24/17 4:26:52 PM #57:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Samurontai posted... It was sufficient to show that a true deity can't achieve "feelings" while a "mortal-turned-deity" can. Sure You have no idea what "true deity" means though. You're defining it in a way that benefits your view. Nope, I was simplifying terms to better explain my point. By true deity, I mean a being that is born as a deity, not one that was once a mortal and then later turned into a deity Pretty sure I explained this pretty clearly a few times in my previous posts. Sounds to me like you're just attempting to use semantics to win an argument you've already lost --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889063196] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>It was sufficient to show that a true deity can't achieve "feelings" while a "mortal-turned-deity" can. Sure</quote> You have no idea what "true deity" means though. You're defining it in a way that benefits your view.</quote> Nope, I was simplifying terms to better explain my point. By true deity, I mean a being that is born as a deity, not one that was once a mortal and then later turned into a deity Pretty sure I explained this pretty clearly a few times in my previous posts. Sounds to me like you're just attempting to use semantics to win an argument you've already lost</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/24/17 4:35:49 PM #58:	Samurontai posted... Nope, I was simplifying terms to better explain my point. By true deity, I mean a being that is born as a deity, not one that was once a mortal and then later turned into a deity How can you possibly know what would be the case in the case of a "true" deity that was "born as a deity?" How do you even know what any of that means? Have you ever met a true deity? Why does it matter whether or not one became a deity or was born a deity? And if becoming a deity rather than being born a deity means you can experience feelings/emotions/desires, then that still proves that being a deity doesn't determine whether or not you can experience feelings/emotions/desires. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:889063747] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>Nope, I was simplifying terms to better explain my point. By true deity, I mean a being that is born as a deity, not one that was once a mortal and then later turned into a deity </quote> How can you possibly know what would be the case in the case of a "true" deity that was "born as a deity?" How do you even know what any of that means? Have you ever met a true deity? Why does it matter whether or not one became a deity or was born a deity? And if becoming a deity rather than being born a deity means you can experience feelings/emotions/desires, then that still proves that being a deity doesn't determine whether or not you can experience feelings/emotions/desires.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavenForever 10/24/17 4:46:58 PM #59:	PSXer_D5_MkIII posted... If the Bible has an accurate account of God, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near him tbqh --- http://i.imgur.com/aFt7pKH.jpg <cite>SavenForever posted [p:889064434] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>PSXer_D5_MkIII posted...</cite> <quote>If the Bible has an accurate account of God, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near him tbqh</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/24/17 4:55:33 PM #60:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Samurontai posted... Nope, I was simplifying terms to better explain my point. By true deity, I mean a being that is born as a deity, not one that was once a mortal and then later turned into a deity How can you possibly know what would be the case in the case of a "true" deity that was "born as a deity?" How do you even know what any of that means? Have you ever met a true deity? Why does it matter whether or not one became a deity or was born a deity? Because if we are going by logic, it's only possible for a deity to have feelings, if he weren't always a deity. Do you not know how basic psychology works? I do, that's how I know And if becoming a deity rather than being born a deity means you can experience feelings/emotions/desires, then that still proves that being a deity doesn't determine whether or not you can experience feelings/emotions/desires. Uh, no. That only determines that a being that becomes a deity has already experienced the things you've listed, and therefore is capable of feeling things based on said experiences. A deity that has always been an all knowing deity cannot experience anything because it already knows everything. It would be more akin to a production line machine than anything else Answers, bold --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889065011] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>Nope, I was simplifying terms to better explain my point. By true deity, I mean a being that is born as a deity, not one that was once a mortal and then later turned into a deity </quote> How can you possibly know what would be the case in the case of a "true" deity that was "born as a deity?" How do you even know what any of that means? Have you ever met a true deity? Why does it matter whether or not one became a deity or was born a deity? Because if we are going by logic, it's only possible for a deity to have feelings, if he weren't always a deity. Do you not know how basic psychology works? I do, that's how I know And if becoming a deity rather than being born a deity means you can experience feelings/emotions/desires, then that still proves that being a deity doesn't determine whether or not you can experience feelings/emotions/desires. Uh, no. That only determines that a being that becomes a deity has already experienced the things you've listed, and therefore is capable of feeling things based on said experiences. A deity that has always been an all knowing deity cannot experience anything because it already knows everything. It would be more akin to a production line machine than anything else</quote> Answers, bold</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/24/17 4:57:45 PM #61:	Samurontai posted... it's only possible for a deity to have feelings, if he weren't always a deity. How do you know this? Samurontai posted... A deity that has always been an all knowing deity cannot experience anything because it already knows everything. It would be more akin to a production line machine than anything else How do you know this? <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:889065151] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>it's only possible for a deity to have feelings, if he weren't always a deity. </quote> How do you know this? <cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>A deity that has always been an all knowing deity cannot experience anything because it already knows everything. It would be more akin to a production line machine than anything else</quote> How do you know this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/24/17 5:09:42 PM #62:	Jesus was virtue signaling. I don't see how he has so many fans who hate virtue signaling. but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... he seemed like a socialist, had a physical trade in carpentry, was born out of wedlock, been evading the authorities since birth, hung out with street people, was proud of his identity even though people wanted him to STFU about it... yeah, Jesus wouldn't be winning any elections. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:889065911] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote>Jesus was virtue signaling. I don't see how he has so many fans who hate virtue signaling. but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... he seemed like a socialist, had a physical trade in carpentry, was born out of wedlock, been evading the authorities since birth, hung out with street people, was proud of his identity even though people wanted him to STFU about it... yeah, Jesus wouldn't be winning any elections.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 10/24/17 5:11:52 PM #63:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... in an attempt to be edgy you just handwaved over middle eastern Christians and basically the entire continent of South America + MesoAmerica why? because you want to "got em" at white people lmao --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:889066051] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color...</quote> in an attempt to be edgy you just handwaved over middle eastern Christians and basically the entire continent of South America + MesoAmerica why? because you want to "got em" at white people lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 10/24/17 5:31:26 PM #66:	darkphoenix181 posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... in an attempt to be edgy you just handwaved over middle eastern Christians and basically the entire continent of South America + MesoAmerica why? because you want to "got em" at white people lmao lolololol, you expose yourself by applying this to all White people when my post did not. read it again. look for words like "many." you even cut out the non-ethnic examples of my post. but if the shoe fits(it does), wear it. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:889067275] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote> but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... </quote> in an attempt to be edgy you just handwaved over middle eastern Christians and basically the entire continent of South America + MesoAmerica why? because you want to "got em" at white people lmao</quote> lolololol, you expose yourself by applying this to all White people when my post did not. read it again. look for words like "many." you even cut out the non-ethnic examples of my post. but if the shoe fits(it does), wear it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/24/17 5:43:22 PM #67:	FLUFFYGERM posted... hockeybub89 posted... But if I programmed a character to behave a certain way, then how can I get mad at him for not behaving a different way? And if I program my characters with free will and offer no proof that I exist, I don't believe I could punish them for not believing I am watching over them. But you're assuming people are programmed by a deity and then punished for what they are programmed to do. I'm not sure any main religion teaches this. Christianity does. We are told God is omniscient and omnipotent. If that's the case, then he knows all the choices we will make and he still punishes us if we make the wrong ones. That seems extremely cruel, which is not perfectly good. I know most branches do not teach predestination, including the Catholicism I was raised in, but that is basically what they're telling people. So either God knows everything and we are puppets he arbitrarily decides to punish, or he is little more than an inventor who turned on his machine and punishes us for not coming to the conclusion (with 0 evidence) that he did so. Or he doesn't exist and these main religions are no more valid than the lesser or dead ones they condemn. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:889068052] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>But if I programmed a character to behave a certain way, then how can I get mad at him for not behaving a different way? And if I program my characters with free will and offer no proof that I exist, I don't believe I could punish them for not believing I am watching over them.</quote> But you're assuming people are programmed by a deity and then punished for what they are programmed to do. I'm not sure any main religion teaches this.</quote> Christianity does. We are told God is omniscient and omnipotent. If that's the case, then he knows all the choices we will make and he still punishes us if we make the wrong ones. That seems extremely cruel, which is not perfectly good. I know most branches do not teach predestination, including the Catholicism I was raised in, but that is basically what they're telling people. So either God knows everything and we are puppets he arbitrarily decides to punish, or he is little more than an inventor who turned on his machine and punishes us for not coming to the conclusion (with 0 evidence) that he did so. Or he doesn't exist and these main religions are no more valid than the lesser or dead ones they condemn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 10/24/17 5:45:20 PM #68:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... darkphoenix181 posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... in an attempt to be edgy you just handwaved over middle eastern Christians and basically the entire continent of South America + MesoAmerica why? because you want to "got em" at white people lmao lolololol, you expose yourself by applying this to all White people when my post did not. read it again. look for words like "many." you even cut out the non-ethnic examples of my post. but if the shoe fits(it does), wear it. many doesn't work when the majority of Christians are brown, a large segment of the minority (white Christians) don't have issues with brown people you are stereotyping literally millions of people on a very very very tiny segment --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:889068177] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote> but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... </quote> in an attempt to be edgy you just handwaved over middle eastern Christians and basically the entire continent of South America + MesoAmerica why? because you want to "got em" at white people lmao</quote> lolololol, you expose yourself by applying this to all White people when my post did not. read it again. look for words like "many." you even cut out the non-ethnic examples of my post. but if the shoe fits(it does), wear it.</quote> many doesn't work when the majority of Christians are brown, a large segment of the minority (white Christians) don't have issues with brown people you are stereotyping literally millions of people on a very very very tiny segment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/24/17 5:47:24 PM #69:	darkphoenix181 posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... darkphoenix181 posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... in an attempt to be edgy you just handwaved over middle eastern Christians and basically the entire continent of South America + MesoAmerica why? because you want to "got em" at white people lmao lolololol, you expose yourself by applying this to all White people when my post did not. read it again. look for words like "many." you even cut out the non-ethnic examples of my post. but if the shoe fits(it does), wear it. many doesn't work when the majority of Christians are brown, a large segment of the minority (white Christians) don't have issues with brown people you are stereotyping literally millions of people on a very very very tiny segment many =/= majority keep taking L's as you further expose your fragility. sorry for ruining your "gotcha" moment, lolololol --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:889068314] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote> but he was also Jewish, and many of his fans hate Jews. and he was a person of color, but many of his fans hate people of color... </quote> in an attempt to be edgy you just handwaved over middle eastern Christians and basically the entire continent of South America + MesoAmerica why? because you want to "got em" at white people lmao </quote> lolololol, you expose yourself by applying this to all White people when my post did not. read it again. look for words like "many." you even cut out the non-ethnic examples of my post. but if the shoe fits(it does), wear it. </quote> many doesn't work when the majority of Christians are brown, a large segment of the minority (white Christians) don't have issues with brown people you are stereotyping literally millions of people on a very very very tiny segment</quote> many =/= majority keep taking L's as you further expose your fragility. sorry for ruining your "gotcha" moment, lolololol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/24/17 5:48:47 PM #70:	Asherlee10 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Samurontai posted... it's only possible for a deity to have feelings, if he weren't always a deity. How do you know this? Samurontai posted... A deity that has always been an all knowing deity cannot experience anything because it already knows everything. It would be more akin to a production line machine than anything else How do you know this? Because those are the definitions set out to qualify a being as a deity and/or a creator. Basically this Also a basic understanding of psychology --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889068412] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>it's only possible for a deity to have feelings, if he weren't always a deity. </quote> How do you know this? <cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>A deity that has always been an all knowing deity cannot experience anything because it already knows everything. It would be more akin to a production line machine than anything else</quote> How do you know this?</quote> Because those are the definitions set out to qualify a being as a deity and/or a creator.</quote> Basically this Also a basic understanding of psychology</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/24/17 5:54:38 PM #71:	Asherlee10 posted... Desire is a byproduct of not being omniscient and omnipotent. this is a non sequitur Asherlee10 posted... Because those are the definitions set out to qualify a being as a deity and/or a creator. no, those are the definitions you chose. you've defined being a deity as meaning not having wants or emotions Samurontai posted... Also a basic understanding of psychology i don't see how human psychology tells you what the case would be for a "true" deity <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:889068779] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Desire is a byproduct of not being omniscient and omnipotent. </quote> this is a non sequitur <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Because those are the definitions set out to qualify a being as a deity and/or a creator. </quote> no, those are the definitions you chose. you've defined being a deity as meaning not having wants or emotions <cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>Also a basic understanding of psychology </quote> i don't see how human psychology tells you what the case would be for a "true" deity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/24/17 5:57:52 PM #72:	Because feelings cannot congregate without experiences, and an Omniscient/omnipotent being is incapable of experiencing anything It's really, really easy to understand Unless you're going to explain to me how one could feel things without experiencing anything at all, in which case I'd love to hear it lol --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889068977] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote>Because feelings cannot congregate without experiences, and an Omniscient/omnipotent being is incapable of experiencing anything It's really, really easy to understand Unless you're going to explain to me how one could feel things without experiencing anything at all, in which case I'd love to hear it lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/24/17 5:58:29 PM #73:	This fucking topic. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:889069012] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote>This fucking topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 10/24/17 6:08:14 PM #75:	Is this Fluffy guy Proudclad? I'm getting like 2014 "hardcore Christian" Proudclad vibes from him --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889069652] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote>Is this Fluffy guy Proudclad? I'm getting like 2014 "hardcore Christian" Proudclad vibes from him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 10/24/17 6:22:31 PM #76:	Christian God is Lawful Evil confirmed. Also in many ways polytheism makes more sense because they are essentially making a human, then making them all powerful in one trait similar to superheroes. It isn't as self defeating. Not that I care for polytheistic systems of belief. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:889070592] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote>Christian God is Lawful Evil confirmed. Also in many ways polytheism makes more sense because they are essentially making a human, then making them all powerful in one trait similar to superheroes. It isn't as self defeating. Not that I care for polytheistic systems of belief.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 10/24/17 6:24:36 PM #77:	"Died for your sins" isn't meant to be literal. It allows people who want to be forgiven for their sins to have that forgiveness. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/ <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:889070722] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote>"Died for your sins" isn't meant to be literal. It allows people who want to be forgiven for their sins to have that forgiveness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/24/17 6:28:07 PM #78:	Vyrulisse posted... "Died for your sins" isn't meant to be literal. It allows people who want to be forgiven for their sins to have that forgiveness. Then why have him die to begin with? Also why did he have to come up with some weird loophole in order to accomplish this? If he was all powerful he wouldn't have needed to go through such measures to allow people to have their sins forgiven. It makes no sense --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889070957] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote>"Died for your sins" isn't meant to be literal. It allows people who want to be forgiven for their sins to have that forgiveness.</quote> Then why have him die to begin with? Also why did he have to come up with some weird loophole in order to accomplish this? If he was all powerful he wouldn't have needed to go through such measures to allow people to have their sins forgiven. It makes no sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
awesome999 10/24/17 6:29:44 PM #79:	3khc posted... Jesus didn't just die for your sins. He saved your entire family and all your friends. If you can't be grateful then you are kinda scummy. Worship these guys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov These guys are actually real --- When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk <cite>awesome999 posted [p:889071056] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus didn't just die for your sins. He saved your entire family and all your friends. If you can't be grateful then you are kinda scummy.</quote> Worship these guys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov These guys are actually real</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 10/24/17 6:30:13 PM #80:	awesome999 posted... 3khc posted... Jesus didn't just die for your sins. He saved your entire family and all your friends. If you can't be grateful then you are kinda scummy. Worship these guys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov These guys are actually real Jesus was real fella... --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/ <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:889071079] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>awesome999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus didn't just die for your sins. He saved your entire family and all your friends. If you can't be grateful then you are kinda scummy.</quote> Worship these guys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov These guys are actually real</quote> Jesus was real fella...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 10/24/17 6:31:29 PM #81:	Vyrulisse posted... awesome999 posted... 3khc posted... Jesus didn't just die for your sins. He saved your entire family and all your friends. If you can't be grateful then you are kinda scummy. Worship these guys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov These guys are actually real Jesus was real fella... Not a deity though, just a normal guy named Jesus --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:889071161] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>awesome999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus didn't just die for your sins. He saved your entire family and all your friends. If you can't be grateful then you are kinda scummy.</quote> Worship these guys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov These guys are actually real</quote> Jesus was real fella...</quote> Not a deity though, just a normal guy named Jesus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
awesome999 10/24/17 6:35:20 PM #82:	youngfossil posted... Jesus dying for your sin is like someone buying you a drink at the bar. You didnt ask for it, but now that it's been bought, you gotta sleep with them. Otherwise you're just being a tease and an arsehole Nobody should have to sleep with anybody just because they bought you a drink --- When it's kids, it's "bullying" but if it were adults, it's stalking, harassment, assault, criminal threats and just general abuse. -Tmk <cite>awesome999 posted [p:889071412] in I never as... [t:75913441]...</cite> <quote><cite>youngfossil posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus dying for your sin is like someone buying you a drink at the bar. You didnt ask for it, but now that it's been bought, you gotta sleep with them. Otherwise you're just being a tease and an arsehole</quote> Nobody should have to sleep with anybody just because they bought you a drink</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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