Current Events > Is the word "Native American" is racist?

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Ricemills
10/17/17 1:15:01 PM
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i mean, is differentiating between natives and non-natives is racism?
some people argued that the usage of the word "native" is insensitive to immigrants and their descendants.

this topic may sound silly, but i have to ask about it because it's a huge topic currently in my country. a recently elected governor under criticism because he used the word Native (Indonesian) in his speech.

@apolloooo
i also want to know your opinion about this because youre one of the tadpoles.
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eston
10/17/17 1:16:02 PM
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Ricemills posted...
i mean, is differentiating between natives and non-natives is racism?

Why would anyone think this?
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lolamericans
10/17/17 1:16:20 PM
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We should call them OG
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Ricemills
10/17/17 1:18:37 PM
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eston posted...
Ricemills posted...
i mean, is differentiating between natives and non-natives is racism?

Why would anyone think this?


beats me.
that's why i asked the question.
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DevsBro
10/17/17 1:25:44 PM
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I dunno, never thought about it.

Technically speaking, it's incorrect to refer to NA's as native since they traveled from Asia. But I have never met anyone who cares.

I dunno why anyone would be upset at being descended from immigrants either.
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MaverickXeo
10/17/17 1:30:56 PM
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I have to take a 'indigenous persons' class in my program... and its amazing what is considered 'racist.'

Indian, native, aboriginal, indigenous, etc are all considered 'racist' by some. Also, my instructor is convinced that MS word is 'racist' because it does not autocorrect native, aboriginal or indigenous as capital letters (despite the fact that they are not 'proper' nouns 99% of the time).
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apolloooo
10/17/17 9:47:56 PM
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I am indifferent to it tbh.

As for the speech itself, i dont think there is too much degrading meaning to it, but anies and uno is piece of shit.
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10/17/17 9:49:35 PM
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Nomadic View
10/17/17 9:51:10 PM
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Everything is racist and must always be racist or else SJWs have no meaning.
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Ricemills
10/17/17 10:52:06 PM
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@apolloooo posted...
I am indifferent to it tbh.

As for the speech itself, i dont think there is too much degrading meaning to it, but anies and uno is piece of shit.


care to explain? both on "not too much degrading" and why Anies and Uno are shit. if it's because they defeat your candidate in election, then no need to reply.
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Ricemills
10/18/17 7:44:01 AM
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Ricemills posted...
care to explain? both on "not too much degrading" and why Anies and Uno are shit. if it's because they defeat your candidate in election, then no need to reply.


guess i have your answer.
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creativerealms
10/18/17 7:51:24 AM
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Better then calling them American Indians as that is refusing to fix the mistake that this was not India.
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Ricemills
10/19/17 10:36:28 PM
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so, i guess everyone here except apolloo agreed that it's stupid to think that the word "native" is racist.
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Dash_Harber
10/19/17 10:40:58 PM
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Depends where you are. In Canada, 'Native' used to be pretty popular, but has since picked up a negative connotation (and 'Native American' was never used because of the confusion between that and 'American' as in the country).

Indian is almost never used, except in some official buildings and programs.

Generally, the best terms are Indigenous or First Nations, although First Nations generally refers to people who are descended from one of the 'First Nations' and that means it can sometimes exclude Metis and Inuit.

Some groups also just use their group name (such as Cree, Salteaux, Blackfoot, or Inuit).
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Dash_Harber
10/19/17 10:41:45 PM
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Ricemills posted...
so, i guess everyone here except apolloo agreed that it's stupid to think that the word "native" is racist.


Native is sort like the word 'Jewish'. It actually, in itself is not offensive, but it's picked up a negative connotation and can be extra offensive in the wrong context.
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itachi15243
10/19/17 10:43:55 PM
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Ricemills posted...
so, i guess everyone here except apolloo agreed that it's stupid to think that the word "native" is racist.


I don't see how it could be. Maybe natives is racist to say alone.

What should we call them if not native American? American early adopters? Early Americans?
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Ricemills
10/19/17 10:45:05 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Ricemills posted...
so, i guess everyone here except apolloo agreed that it's stupid to think that the word "native" is racist.


Native is sort like the word 'Jewish'. It actually, in itself is not offensive, but it's picked up a negative connotation and can be extra offensive in the wrong context.


like this one?
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Dash_Harber
10/19/17 10:47:09 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Ricemills posted...
so, i guess everyone here except apolloo agreed that it's stupid to think that the word "native" is racist.


Native is sort like the word 'Jewish'. It actually, in itself is not offensive, but it's picked up a negative connotation and can be extra offensive in the wrong context.


like this one?
X3Kfin3


I wouldn't say that is how language works, no.
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CanuckCowboy
10/19/17 10:49:44 PM
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No. Wut the fuck at anyone who says it is. I'm Canadian but native is 100 the correct accurate and pc term. Native or indigenous

DevsBro posted...
Technically speaking, it's incorrect to refer to NA's as native since they traveled from Asia. But I have never met anyone who cares.


I have never once heard anything regarding scientific consensus about the origins of natives / indigenous peoples. But afaik its as likely that they originated in NA as anything. Certainly never heard that they're 100% known to have came from Asia. Where'd you get that anyways?

Google certainly isn't backing it up for me.
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Dash_Harber
10/19/17 10:52:11 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...

I have never once heard anything regarding scientific consensus about the origins of natives / indigenous peoples. But afaik its as likely that they originated in NA as anything. Certainly never heard that there 100% known to have came from Asia. Where'd you get that anyways?

Google certainly isn't backing it up for me.


Considering they have found 3,000 year old civilizations in South America, I'd guess that the whole land bridge theory is probably more an imperialist pipe dream.
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