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pinky0926
10/16/17 10:01:45 AM
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Ninni Laaksonen, former Miss Finland. Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt in July 2006.

Jessica Drake. Said Trump grabbed and kissed her without consent, then offered her 10K for sex in 2006.
Karena Virginia. Says she was groped by Trump at the U.S. Open in 1998.

Cathy Heller. Says Trump grabbed her and attempted to kiss her at Mar-a-lago in 1997.

Summer Zervos. Apprentice contestant says Trump started kissing her and grabbing her breasts, began "thrusting his genitals." 2007.

Kristin Anderson. Said Trump reached under her skirt and grabbed her vagina through her underwear in the early 1990s.

Jessica Leeds. Said Trump lifted up the armrest, grabbed her breasts and reached his hand up her skirt in the early 1980s.

Rachel Crooks. Says she was assaulted by Trump in an elevator in Trump Tower in 2005.
Mindy McGillivray. Says Trump groped her while she was attending a concert at Mar-a-lago in 2003.
Natasha Stoynoff. Says Trump pushed her against a wall and jammed his tongue down her throat at Mar-a-lago in 2005.

Jennifer Murphy. Apprentice contestant says Trump kissed her on the lips after a job interview in 2005.
Cassandra Searles. Says Trump grabbed her ass and invited her to his hotel room in 2013.
Temple Taggart McDowell. Former Miss Utah says Trump kissed her directly on the lips the first time she met him in 1997.

Jill Harth. Says Trump repeatedly sexually harassed her and groped her underneath a table in 1993.
Jane Doe or Katie J. In June, a California woman Jane Doe filed a lawsuit alleging that Trump raped her at a party when she was 13 years old. Video testimony from Katie J, who accuses Trump of raping her at 13. 1994

Ivana Trump. In a 1992 deposition during their divorce, Trumps first wife described an incident in which she says her then-husband forced her to have sex with him.


There's also a Jane Doe who accused Trump of raping her at a sex party when she was 13.

But hey, I understand the appropriate response in these situations is to cast all the women under the most intense suspicion and invent wild hypotheticals that would explain why they're all liars.
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NeonOctopus
10/16/17 10:05:54 AM
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Kristin Anderson. Said Trump reached under her skirt and grabbed her vagina through her underwear in the early 1990s.

All these claims and only one of them was grabbed by the pussy? >_>
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pinky0926
10/16/17 10:06:28 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
It's hard to not believe their stories when Trump has said things like "grab them by the pussy."


My favourite quip about this:

"After the tape appeared all these women came out to say he'd done creepy things to them too. But, there wasn't really any evidence that he'd actually do stuff like that...apart from the recording of him saying he did - and that was just his word against his."

From:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkekwFwFuQ&t=4m42s
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Twin3Turbo
10/16/17 10:08:24 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Kristin Anderson. Said Trump reached under her skirt and grabbed her vagina through her underwear in the early 1990s.

All these claims and only one of them was grabbed by the pussy? >_>

Uh, there's at least 2 in that list that claim he tried to reach up their skirt
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tremain07
10/16/17 10:17:05 AM
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Considering he's like this with his own daughter, I can see it.
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Then there was the interview years ago where she wasn't even born yet and al he could do is compliment how hot she'll be when she grows up. Shit's weird.
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pinky0926
10/16/17 10:19:13 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Considering he's like this with his own daughter, I can see it.
3o7TKMeCOV3oXSb5bq

Then there was the interview years ago where she wasn't even born yet and al he could do is compliment how hot she'll be when she grows up. Shit's weird.


Let's not forget that time he said he does this.

I feel like his supporters will turn a blind eye even if video evidence came out of him raping a woman with comments like "but look, she's curling her toes".
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 10:23:21 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Kristin Anderson. Said Trump reached under her skirt and grabbed her vagina through her underwear in the early 1990s.

All these claims and only one of them was grabbed by the pussy? >_>


Only two of them predate the election. One woman claims the allegations were "embellished", the other completely recanted.
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the_cajun88
10/16/17 10:25:10 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
It's hard to not believe their stories when Trump has said things like "grab them by the pussy."


My favourite quip about this:

"After the tape appeared all these women came out to say he'd done creepy things to them too. But, there wasn't really any evidence that he'd actually do stuff like that...apart from the recording of him saying he did - and that was just his word against his."

From:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkekwFwFuQ&t=4m42s


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Questionmarktarius
10/16/17 10:27:29 AM
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Didn't bring down Bill Clinton, won't bring down Donald Trump either.
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pinky0926
10/16/17 10:50:58 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
Only two of them predate the election. One woman claims the allegations were "embellished", the other completely recanted.


Why don't you say what you're thinking.
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HiddenLurker
10/16/17 10:56:35 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Didn't bring down Bill Clinton, won't bring down Donald Trump either.

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foreveraIone
10/16/17 10:57:22 AM
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remember what he said about Paris Hilton?
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 1:42:29 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Only two of them predate the election. One woman claims the allegations were "embellished", the other completely recanted.


Why don't you say what you're thinking.


Trump is innocent of all the allegations. But Weinstein is guilty as sin.
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pinky0926
10/16/17 1:43:27 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Only two of them predate the election. One woman claims the allegations were "embellished", the other completely recanted.


Why don't you say what you're thinking.


Trump is innocent of all the allegations. But Weinstein is guilty as sin.


lmao

The mental gymnastics required for this, really
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refmon
10/16/17 1:46:26 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Only two of them predate the election. One woman claims the allegations were "embellished", the other completely recanted.

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pinky0926
10/16/17 1:50:10 PM
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refmon posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Only two of them predate the election. One woman claims the allegations were "embellished", the other completely recanted.


And?
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Patchwork
10/16/17 1:51:36 PM
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They're literally all the same M.O., which makes them extremely credible.

He's admitted to this type of behavior. Guy is a scumbag and a predator. Defend him all you want, but he's a shitbag.
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pinky0926
10/16/17 2:00:36 PM
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Patchwork posted...
They're literally all the same M.O., which makes them extremely credible.

He's admitted to this type of behavior. Guy is a scumbag and a predator. Defend him all you want, but he's a shitbag.


A lot of guys would rather dream up a fantastical story involving 10 women coming together in a conspiracy to bring down a good man than think a man could be a rapist because 10 women have said so. That's basically what cases like this prove.

And they'll say "innocent until proven guilty", while never affording that same luxury to the alleged victims.
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 2:01:23 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
refmon posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Only two of them predate the election. One woman claims the allegations were "embellished", the other completely recanted.


And?


One of the rape allegations was a proven fabrication (the Jane Doe). Politically motivated. Once this was revealed, she dropped her lawsuit for good, never to be heard from again. The other election time allegations are also politically motivated. A left wing attempt to derail the Trump train.

Trump was just boasting about his "desirability". He made it up, like a lot of men do when they brag.

But Weinstein was caught on audio admitting to sexually assaulting the very woman he was talking to. He acknowledged his wrongdoing, and his behavior was consistent with the allegations made by Ashley Judd.
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Milkman5
10/16/17 2:04:04 PM
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It's hard to trust allegations against Trump at this point
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NinjaBreakfast
10/16/17 2:04:29 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Trump was just boasting about his "desirability". He made it up, like a lot of men do when they brag.

hahaha
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pinky0926
10/16/17 2:06:09 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
One of the rape allegations was a proven fabrication (the Jane Doe). Politically motivated. Once this was revealed, she dropped her lawsuit for good, never to be heard from again. The other election time allegations are also politically motivated. A left wing attempt to derail the Trump train.

Trump was just boasting about his "desirability". He made it up, like a lot of men do when they brag.

But Weinstein was caught on audio admitting to sexually assaulting the very woman he was talking to. He acknowledged his wrongdoing, and his behavior was consistent with the allegations made by Ashley Judd.


You have no proof any of these allegations are politically motivated fabrications other than the first one but you've decided that's the case for all of them anyway. Source on that, incidentally? Because everything I've read suggests she dropped it because of death threats.

I don't think saying you can grab women by the pussy and they'll let you because you're famous is cute or funny or something to brag about. Sounds to me like something someone who sexually assaults people would say.

Essentially your entire case is "these women accused him during the election therefore it's got to be false". What a dumbass argument, you realise that surely.
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myztikrice
10/16/17 2:07:46 PM
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Damn, kissing someone on the lips is assault now
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pinky0926
10/16/17 2:09:48 PM
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myztikrice posted...
Damn, kissing someone on the lips is assault now


Doing anything forceful without consent is sexual assault (or at least sexual misconduct) and always has been, now you know.

My advice for how to handle this grievously difficult and unfair situation for men all around the world is not to go grabbing and kissing women who don't want anything to do with you.
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Harpie
10/16/17 2:10:06 PM
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myztikrice posted...
Damn, kissing someone on the lips is assault now

Without their consent? Of course it is
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hollow_shrine
10/16/17 2:10:24 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
It's hard to trust allegations against Trump at this point

What about the ones made years ago, or the ones he admitted to on radio broadcast on in television interviews. When someone brags about participating in serial examples of creepy, invasive, and entitled behavior, the least you can do is believe him. Even Kellyanne Conway didn't get up on CNN and start claiming it didn't happen, because everyone knew it did. That's why the deflections to Bill Clinton, the insistence that DJT had changed, and that sexual impropriety in the work culture weren't actually harmful became the next talking points.
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 2:28:08 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
One of the rape allegations was a proven fabrication (the Jane Doe). Politically motivated. Once this was revealed, she dropped her lawsuit for good, never to be heard from again. The other election time allegations are also politically motivated. A left wing attempt to derail the Trump train.

Trump was just boasting about his "desirability". He made it up, like a lot of men do when they brag.

But Weinstein was caught on audio admitting to sexually assaulting the very woman he was talking to. He acknowledged his wrongdoing, and his behavior was consistent with the allegations made by Ashley Judd.


You have no proof any of these allegations are politically motivated fabrications other than the first one but you've decided that's the case for all of them anyway. Source on that, incidentally? Because everything I've read suggests she dropped it because of death threats.

I don't think saying you can grab women by the pussy and they'll let you because you're famous is cute or funny or something to brag about. Sounds to me like something someone who sexually assaults people would say.

Essentially your entire case is "these women accused him during the election therefore it's got to be false". What a dumbass argument, you realise that surely.


http://tinyurl.com/husotrx

A source with knowledge of the controversial case told DailyMail.com: 'Katie Johnson's account had been believable and compelling right up until the last minute. 'But new information emerged that suggested she had not been telling the truth.

'Ultimately it was discovered that Donald Trump's name had been inserted into this, he was not involved whatsoever. After that she had no credibility.'


She disappeared for good after this was published.

Even Ann Merlin didn't buy this garbage

https://jezebel.com/heres-how-that-wild-lawsuit-accusing-trump-of-raping-a-1782447083

But Epstein entertained dozens of high-profile guests, including Revlon chairman Ronald Perelman, real-estate tycoon Leon Black, and even former president Bill Clinton. Is Trump and Epsteins friendship enough to place him at Epsteins apartment on the night of the alleged assault? Detective Fisten doesn't think so.

"I interviewed hundreds of victims people who were victimized by Jeffrey, worked with him, were part of his organization," Fisten told me. "I interviewed them, the FBI interviewed him Trump never came up involved in this part of his life anywhere, at any time, by anybody."


Sounds to me like something someone who sexually assaults people would say.


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Kim Kusanagi
10/16/17 2:31:33 PM
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Ammonite and his mental rhythmic gymnastics
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 2:33:29 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
Milkman5 posted...
It's hard to trust allegations against Trump at this point

What about the ones made years ago, or the ones he admitted to on radio broadcast on in television interviews. When someone brags about participating in serial examples of creepy, invasive, and entitled behavior, the least you can do is believe him. Even Kellyanne Conway didn't get up on CNN and start claiming it didn't happen, because everyone knew it did. That's why the deflections to Bill Clinton, the insistence that DJT had changed, and that sexual impropriety in the work culture weren't actually harmful became the next talking points.


The allegations made years ago are not credible. One claims the allegations were "embellished" (the 1997 allegation), the other (his-ex wife) recanted twice and stands behind her recantation.

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Kim Kusanagi
10/16/17 2:35:22 PM
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Lol Ammonite credit
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 2:39:48 PM
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Kim Kusanagi posted...
Lol Ammonite credit


What a shame that internet sleuths debunked your whole Russia-Trump fantasy before Mueller even got his hands on the case. LOL
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pinky0926
10/16/17 2:43:49 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
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Jesus Christ, I asked for a source and you give me a he-said-she-said story that even the DailyMail should have been embarrassed to publish. There's no evidence presented here. It's a slimy piece of journalism and a transparent smear.

Further, you're using this tenuous at best "evidence" to discredit every other accusation wholesale. Amazing.

Men brag all the time about their desirability (I'm so desired I can grab women anytime and they don't care!!!!!), but most of time it's pure fantasy.


So a guy says in confidence he does a thing and then 10 women come forward and confirm he did exactly what he said he does, but you: "Ah it's just words he doesn't mean it because sometimes guys say that and they don't mean it".
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 2:53:21 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
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Jesus Christ, I asked for a source and you give me a he said she said story that even the DailyMail should have been embarrassed to publish. There's no evidence presented here.

Further, you're using this tenuous at best "evidence" to discredit every other accusation wholesale. Amazing.

Men brag all the time about their desirability (I'm so desired I can grab women anytime and they don't care!!!!!), but most of time it's pure fantasy.


So a guy says in confidence he does a thing and then 10 women come forward and confirm he did exactly what he said he does, but you: "Ah it's just words he doesn't mean it because sometimes guys say that and they don't mean it".


I gave you plenty. Not just the Dailymail. The detective involved in the Epstein case never heard Trump come up in his interviews. Not once. Of course, you just completely ignored that.

Fisten says Epstein had in effect two lives: a business life and deviant pedphile life. To find out which friends were involved in which life, Fisten carried a book with photos of Epsteins contacts. In hundreds of interviews with hundreds of witnesses, he said no one has ever identified Trump as being involved in any kind of sexual activity with underage girls. In fact, Fisten recalls learning in the early 2000s that members of Trumps private Palm Beach club, Mar-a-Lago, complained that Epstein was often accompanied by very young girlsa different girl every weekeach of whom he would refer to as his niece. Fisten says he offered to look at Tiffany Does book to vet her free of charge, but Taylor and Meagher declined.


The last part is very noteworthy. That Tiffany Doe is the woman who alleged in the lawsuit that she could corroborate Katie's allegation, yet when the detective offered to vet her free of charge (and thereby give her claim more credibility), she declined. Why? Because they knew the allegation was fabricated.

So a guy says in confidence he does a thing and then 10 women come forward and confirm he did exactly what he said he does, but you: "Ah it's just words he doesn't mean it because sometimes guys say that and they don't mean it".


It doesn't mean a damn thing given circumstances of this election.
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Delirious_Beard
10/16/17 2:56:49 PM
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Ammonitida is a usual suspect
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lilJoe457
10/16/17 2:57:20 PM
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I knew they'd try to turn this Hollywood thing into a trump thing. Every time. Lol. Without fail.
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hollow_shrine
10/16/17 2:58:39 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
Ammonitida is a usual suspect

Of rape culture apologia? I think we can all see that.
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pinky0926
10/16/17 2:59:19 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
I gave you plenty. Not just the Dailymail. The detective involved in the Epstein case never heard Trump come up in his interviews. Not once. Of course, you just completely ignored that.


You gave me a bullshit op-ed from the DailyMail and a comment from a detective investigating a different case.

Is this really enough for you to discredit the testimony of 10+ women who came forward individually about sexual assault?

You know, innocent until proven guilty applies to the victim too. And apparently you're happy to suggest that all of them are money grubbing whores based on a fantastically constructed conspiracy narrative that makes not the least bit of sense.

Fisten says Epstein had in effect two lives: a business life and deviant pedphile life. To find out which friends were involved in which life, Fisten carried a book with photos of Epsteins contacts. In hundreds of interviews with hundreds of witnesses, he said no one has ever identified Trump as being involved in any kind of sexual activity with underage girls. In fact, Fisten recalls learning in the early 2000s that members of Trumps private Palm Beach club, Mar-a-Lago, complained that Epstein was often accompanied by very young girlsa different girl every weekeach of whom he would refer to as his niece. Fisten says he offered to look at Tiffany Does book to vet her free of charge, but Taylor and Meagher declined.


Retired off duty cop makes skeptical comment concerning a totally different case he was investigating. Is this really your evidence that proves Trump didn't rape anybody? Because this guy thinks he probably wouldn't have raped that 13 year old?

It doesn't mean a damn thing given circumstances of this election.


We're not talking about the election, we're talking about whether it's feasible to consider whether he might have actually been guilty of sexually assaulting these women who all point blank said that he did.

I mean how many would be enough, hypothetically speaking? Let's say only one of these stories is true. Is that ok? Would you be ok with him because he only sexually assaulted one woman?
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creativerealms
10/16/17 2:59:32 PM
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Wow the democrats have been working overtime smearing Trump even in the nineties.
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 3:12:19 PM
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Again.
Fisten says Epstein had in effect two lives: a business life and deviant pedphile life. To find out which friends were involved in which life, Fisten carried a book with photos of Epsteins contacts. In hundreds of interviews with hundreds of witnesses, he said no one has ever identified Trump as being involved in any kind of sexual activity with underage girls. In fact, Fisten recalls learning in the early 2000s that members of Trumps private Palm Beach club, Mar-a-Lago, complained that Epstein was often accompanied by very young girlsa different girl every weekeach of whom he would refer to as his niece. Fisten says he offered to look at Tiffany Does book to vet her free of charge, but Taylor and Meagher declined.


He was investigating Jeffrey Epstein -- who was directly linked in this allegation to Trump. Yet Trump never came up in any of the interviews with the hundreds of witnesses he spoke to. The first time Trump is linked to Epstein's behavior is during the election, when there was motive for fabrication.

The last part is very noteworthy. That Tiffany Doe is the woman who alleged in the lawsuit that she could corroborate Katie's allegation, yet when the detective offered to vet her free of charge (and thereby give her claim more credibility), she declined. Why? Because she knew the allegation was fabricated and that such vetting would expose her.

We're not talking about the election, we're talking about whether it's feasible to consider whether he might have actually been guilty of sexually assaulting these women who all point blank said that he did.


You can't separate the election from the allegations.
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BLAKUboy
10/16/17 3:15:50 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Wow the democrats have been working overtime smearing Trump even in the nineties.

So Dems are the real 14D Space Blitzball champs.
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Sayoria
10/16/17 3:18:30 PM
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All fake news. Only the Donald tells the truth.
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 3:19:07 PM
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Sayoria posted...
All fake news. Only the Donald tells the truth.


Nope. He was lying when he bragged about, "grabbing them by the pussy".
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pinky0926
10/16/17 3:19:33 PM
#45:


Ammonitida posted...
He was investigating Jeffrey Epstein -- who was directly linked in this allegation to Trump. Yet Trump never came up in any of the interviews with the hundreds of witnesses he spoke to. The first time Trump is linked to Epstein's behavior is during the election, when there was motive for fabrication.


So the women Epstein raped weren't also raped by Trump. That's good to know.

The last part is very noteworthy. That Tiffany Doe is the woman who alleged in the lawsuit that she could corroborate Katie's allegation, yet when the detective offered to vet her free of charge (and thereby give her claim more credibility), she declined. Why? Because she knew the allegation was fabricated and that such vetting would expose her.


That's a fucking quantum leap and a half between the fact and the theory. Did you consider that maybe she just didn't want to see through a court case about an alleged rape like almost all women who get raped, because it's a horrific experience that will almost certainly not end with a conviction even if true?

You can't separate the election from the allegations.


Of course you can. You're trying to link them because it's the only thing that ties together your wild conspiracy theory.

Essentially we have two basic options here:

Option A: A DNC secret society funded and masterminded by Shillary found a gang of corrupt women and conspired with them all to bring down Trump with an array of sexual assault stories that couldn't possibly be true because Trump is such a wonderful man.

Option B: A bunch of women were sexually assaulted by Trump but decided not to try and take one of the most powerful and wealthy men in the world to court, but eventually later all spoke up about it at around the same time, just like what happened with Cosby and Weinstein, because they felt emboldened by the other allegations.

I know which one sounds a lot more plausible to me.
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Renraku_San
10/16/17 3:23:29 PM
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So going in for the first move on a date is sexual assault? Fuck....
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Freddie_Mercury
10/16/17 3:29:31 PM
#47:


lilJoe457 posted...
I knew they'd try to turn this Hollywood thing into a trump thing. Every time. Lol. Without fail.


"I knew investigating sexual assault allegations would lead to other investigations of sexual assault allegations. Every time. Lol. Without fail."
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Ammonitida
10/16/17 3:32:21 PM
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So the women Epstein raped weren't also raped by Trump. That's good to know.


They're weren't "women". They were girls. And again, Trump's name never came up in any of the interviews with the hundreds of witnesses and victims in the Epstein case. Surely if Trump had been best buds with Epstein to such an extent that he would rape girls at his parties, someone would have mentioned him in those interviews. But the first time Epstein's behavior is linked to Trump is during the election, when there was motive for fabrication.

That's a f***ing quantum leap and a half between the fact and the theory. Did you consider that maybe she just didn't want to see through a court case about an alleged rape like almost all women who get raped, because it's a horrific experience that will almost certainly not end with a conviction even if true?


She filed a civil suit. Any evidence to support her credibility would have been appreciated if she was telling the truth. But she wasn't.

I know which one sounds a lot more plausible to me.


Option C

Audio is leaked in which Trump brags about boorish behavior, and some of his enemies saw it as the perfect opportunity to fabricate such allegations to derail his bid for President.
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Tmaster148
10/16/17 3:35:54 PM
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Renraku_San posted...
So going in for the first move on a date is sexual assault? Fuck....


You are aware there's a difference between a consensual kiss and one where you force it on to the other party.
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andel
10/16/17 3:39:18 PM
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it has been well known for years that trump is a sexual predator, only his mindless cultists try and deny it now like itt
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