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foolm0r0n
10/17/17 4:29:14 AM
#203:


It's super rare that you will see actual ad hominem. The most common is stuff like "oh CNN/Fox posted this article so you know it's wrong". I've almost never seen it directed at specific individuals though. Maybe when it comes to video games (e.g. LtM likes this game so it's prob shit).

99% of the time it's just used by stupid bigots to defend against people calling them stupid bigots because they think the reason people call them stupid and bigoted is because they are making really epic uncomfortable arguments, when the simple truth is that they are just being stupid and bigoted.
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Nanis23
10/17/17 4:36:02 AM
#204:


foolm0r0n posted...
Nanis23 posted...
And this is totally not a lie whatsoever to show how easy it is to write this without meaning shit

Post it somewhere where more than 4 people will read it you colossal coward

What? you mean lying about being raped?
No need, thousands of women already just did it
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foolm0r0n
10/17/17 4:37:06 AM
#205:


Yes

Prove how easy it is
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MoogleKupo141
10/17/17 4:41:24 AM
#206:


UltimaterializerX posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
I mean I mostly agree with SephG here. I definitely think this is part of Feminism's end game goal of "Everything we don't like can be labeled sexual assault/harassment at any time"

But in the wake of the Weinstein revelation and considering how benign the whole online hashtag thing is, this is just a genuinely bad time to die on this hill. Especially if some victims can find some solidarity, like I said.

Not a bad time at all. If you think Weinstein won't be parlayed into women magically appearing to accuse Trump of sexual assault (just like they magically just happened to pop up and accuse him during October of a presidential run), you haven't payed much attention to politics lately. The entire point here is to convince the public to treat all rape/assault accusations as fact regardless of proof, then have women accuse the president.

Hollywood knew for decades about that POS, and they know about every other POS in their ranks. Weinstein wasn't burned at the stake by accident. They're going for the full radical feminism route in hopes it convinces the public to turn on Trump, which thankfully won't work. We're wise to this trash now.


was the Cosby stuff part of this elaborate anti-Trump feminist plan too
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MenuWars
10/17/17 4:52:39 AM
#208:


I spoke too soon about the number of shitposters, my apologies.
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MoogleKupo141
10/17/17 4:59:00 AM
#210:


I dunno who you're following that makes it look like an anti-men crusade. What I'm seeing is more about exposing how shitty it is to be a woman, not some generalized indictment of men.
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Nanis23
10/17/17 5:01:15 AM
#211:


Let me clarify
I do not believe sexual harassment doesn't exist
I do not believe sexual harassment isn't a problem

BUT
I do believe propaganda exists
And I do believe people love to be attention whores

Now before you ask, "DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE WILL SAY THEY GOT RAPED JUST FOR ATTENTION?!?!"
Well, if you don't specify anything, no time, no place, no description, yes - it's extremely easy to do
Here-
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped

See how simple that was?
I got raped hahaha lmao
See?
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MoogleKupo141
10/17/17 5:05:07 AM
#212:


hahaha lmao
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MenuWars
10/17/17 5:06:10 AM
#213:


Yes people lie in general about a great many shit things Nanis. But you'd have to be blind to not see that's missing the point completely, for one this is about more than rape.

I'm still one of the people that genuinely believes there's no rape culture, at least not as far as the general populace is concerned, hollywood seems likes it's a fucking breeding ground.

But if you were to ask me if there's a sexual harassment culture, my answer would be yes... so I'm all in favour of this particular brand of social politics/memeing, whatever you want to call it.
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Nanis23
10/17/17 6:26:07 AM
#215:


MenuWars posted...
Yes people lie in general about a great many shit things Nanis. But you'd have to be blind to not see that's missing the point completely, for one this is about more than rape.

I'm still one of the people that genuinely believes there's no rape culture, at least not as far as the general populace is concerned, hollywood seems likes it's a fucking breeding ground.

But if you were to ask me if there's a sexual harassment culture, my answer would be yes... so I'm all in favour of this particular brand of social politics/memeing, whatever you want to call it.

Well, what do they mean when they hashtag #metoo?
Maybe I was wrong and assumed it meant something different, because I thought it means "I got raped"
If we are talking about "verbal sexual harassment" being a thing, I do not deny it
I have seen it happen many times myself
One time I was at a mall and a woman decided to seek attention
She was all..fake, fake boobs, fake face, etc. She had high heels and a miniskirt, and a crazy cleavage
Any straight male that saw her couldn't look away for a good reason
BUT a lot of the shopkeepers whistled to her, called her etc
That was one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen in my life

Chat harassments are a thing too which I am not going to deny either

But again - if the #metoo means "I got raped" and you believe all of those hashtags, then yeah no
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Terastodon
10/17/17 6:27:57 AM
#216:


Sexual harassment exists almost everywhere there's a power disparity between the sexes.

The most common place for this power disparity to occur is in the workplace and the media world, be that movies, music or tv, is one of the largest power disparity workplaces between actors, actresses who haven't made it and execs, directors, etc. who have.

No, that doesn't always lead to rape. No, it doesn't occur in every workplace. But it occurs in a lot.
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Terastodon
10/17/17 6:31:23 AM
#217:


Nanis23 posted...
Well, what do they mean when they hashtag #metoo?


If all the people who have been sexually harassed or assaulted wrote "Me too" as a status, we might give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem.
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MoogleKupo141
10/17/17 6:38:58 AM
#218:


But again - if the #metoo means "I got raped" and you believe all of those hashtags, then yeah no


well good news, it doesn't mean that
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Tom Bombadil
10/17/17 6:40:02 AM
#219:


JetJaguar posted...
To reply to all the people asking [about wanting girls to grab his junk randomly]: yes.


can we go back to this part

I can't tell how serious Tim is being but if that's actually how he feels maybe we're on to something with the divide over what constitutes harrassment because that sounds terrifying to me even if I'm single and they're all attractive
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Mr Lasastryke
10/17/17 8:07:23 AM
#220:


Gmun posted...
women: "I had a bad experience where a man did this to me"
b8: "shut up"



uh, it's just the usual conservatrolls who were saying that.

i understand that you don't want to read through hundreds of posts with MWC and timjab arguing but as a board we're not that terrible.
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RPGlord95
10/17/17 8:14:02 AM
#221:


I had a woman randomly grab my junk once. It caught me off guard more than anything. You don't really expect people to just grab there.
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Nelson_Mandela
10/17/17 8:40:24 AM
#222:


JetJaguar posted...
Gmun posted...
women: "I had a bad experience where a man did this to me"
b8: "shut up"



well of course you would sympathize with someone being taken advantage of sexually by a man lol

Holy shit
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transcience
10/17/17 10:29:07 AM
#224:


someone should firebomb this topic right out of existence
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SSJBKK20Vegito
10/17/17 10:55:47 AM
#225:


transcience posted...
someone should firebomb this topic right out of existence


Along with this Facebook movement...
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MoogleKupo141
10/17/17 11:08:24 AM
#226:


mwc wants to firebomb sexual assault victims
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SSJBKK20Vegito
10/17/17 11:12:51 AM
#227:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
mwc wants to firebomb sexual assault victims


No...

I even said the "movement" in that post.

And then redo it

If you've been raped or assaulted say "Me too"

If you've been harassed say "Also I"
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UItimaterializer
10/17/17 11:17:03 AM
#228:


For the record, the vast majority of these women chose money over speaking out until it was safe for their careers to say something. It doesnt take courage to put a hashtag on twitter.
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OliviaTremor
10/17/17 11:20:37 AM
#229:


Man fuck off Ulti of course it takes courage to tell someone you've been sexually harassed, assaulted or raped.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/17/17 11:26:34 AM
#230:


at the very least it takes courage to tell someone you've been sexually assaulted or raped, yes.

one of the things i hate most about this subject is the "WHY DIDN'T YOU SPEAK OUT EARLIER" victim blaming that always comes up. it's like people don't realize that for a lot of people talking about traumatizing experiences is incredibly difficult.
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scarletspeed7
10/17/17 11:38:36 AM
#232:


Damn, I missed a post.
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LapisLazuli
10/17/17 11:44:36 AM
#234:


You're so sad.
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CelesMyUserName
10/17/17 11:57:47 AM
#235:


yeah I miss the good old days when everybody who came out about their experiences of sexual harassment had their careers ruined

it's almost as if that's a specific purpose of the movement, to make women feel comfortable about sharing their experiences
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OliviaTremor
10/17/17 12:00:33 PM
#236:


Ulti, I like you a lot, but this is ridiculous. Have you personally met anyone who was raped? I have. Said person took a year to report it. Then it was nothing but a barrage of a million questions concerning the incident, how she knew the rapist, etc reliving the experience every single day for months. It was horrible. At the end of it all, she wishes she didn't report it because of how traumatizing constantly reliving the worst experience of her life in excruciating details followed by constant accusations she was lying was. I absolutely understand why women don't report or take a long time to report. I don't think it is asking too much to understand why this might be the case.
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velocycloraptor
10/17/17 12:07:45 PM
#237:


I know a ridiculous amount of women who have been raped, abused, harassed, etc. and I don't know a single one that has reported it and not regretted doing so. So the vast majority of them do not report it at all.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/17/17 12:14:07 PM
#238:


for what it's worth, i do agree with ulti that posting #metoo isn't necessarily courageous. like, i'm sure there are some women who just jumped on the bandwagon because some dude at a bar called them hot once.

saying it doesn't take courage for jennifer lawrence to admit to the entire planet that she was assaulted at age 15 because "it's not costing her her job" is fucking disgusting, though.
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Omniscientless
10/17/17 12:15:17 PM
#239:


these women are just greedy, literally putting their careers and professional success first like cowards over choosing to be the total nobodies who can denounce those douchebags in power and take them down lmfao, basically feminism in a nutshell XFD

it's just sad how they wait for others to speak, how about putting your career prospects and reputation on the line instead? grow a backbone already. call me when they stop following trends and actually act instead of pretending to go through all this victim dilemma bullshit, like I can literally type on a message board on gamefaqs that I was sexually harrassed and so can they! it's that easy.

all of these statements should be taken with a grain of salt. women are just trying to profit from social media buzz and virtue signal for attention. just pitiful. this is why liberals lost the election and will lose the next one.
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foolm0r0n
10/17/17 12:42:25 PM
#240:


http://smbc-comics.com/comic/perspective

All the super smart people ITT
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Mr Lasastryke
10/17/17 12:44:48 PM
#241:


foolm0r0n posted...
http://smbc-comics.com/comic/perspective


every lisel post ever
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foolm0r0n
10/17/17 12:48:02 PM
#242:


Nanis23 posted...
Let me clarify
I do not believe sexual harassment doesn't exist
I do not believe sexual harassment isn't a problem

BUT
I do believe propaganda exists
And I do believe people love to be attention whores

Now before you ask, "DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE WILL SAY THEY GOT RAPED JUST FOR ATTENTION?!?!"
Well, if you don't specify anything, no time, no place, no description, yes - it's extremely easy to do
Here-
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped

See how simple that was?
I got raped hahaha lmao
See?

This is really all it comes down to

Weak cowardly men denying the truth of sexual attacks, which simultaneously being extremely afraid to make the same kind of "extremely easy lie"

POST
THIS
ON
FACEBOOK
AND
TWITTER

YOU COWARD


Hell, I guarantee you don't have the balls even post it on CE. Make a sincere topic there saying "me too" with no details. I will be massively impressed.

You can't. You realize how hard it is to allow even 100 strangers to read a false rape claim, let alone 1000 or 1000000. And yet you have no problem screaming day after day in an empty topic about how obviously false and easy these lies are.
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foolm0r0n
10/17/17 12:49:55 PM
#243:


UItimaterializer posted...
For the record, the vast majority of these women chose money over speaking out until it was safe for their careers to say something. It doesnt take courage to put a hashtag on twitter.

Do it then. You were assaulted so you definitely qualify.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
10/17/17 12:52:07 PM
#244:


Omniscientless posted...
these women are just greedy, literally putting their careers and professional success first like cowards over choosing to be the total nobodies who can denounce those douchebags in power and take them down lmfao, basically feminism in a nutshell XFD

it's just sad how they wait for others to speak, how about putting your career prospects and reputation on the line instead? grow a backbone already. call me when they stop following trends and actually act instead of pretending to go through all this victim dilemma bullshit, like I can literally type on a message board on gamefaqs that I was sexually harrassed and so can they! it's that easy.

all of these statements should be taken with a grain of salt. women are just trying to profit from social media buzz and virtue signal for attention. just pitiful. this is why liberals lost the election and will lose the next one.


They'll lose the next one cause they have NO competent leadership whatsoever.
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tazzyboyishere
10/17/17 12:52:41 PM
#245:


Real courage is learning how to defeat every boss in Dark Souls without summons.
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Espeon
10/17/17 12:53:25 PM
#246:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
Omniscientless posted...
these women are just greedy, literally putting their careers and professional success first like cowards over choosing to be the total nobodies who can denounce those douchebags in power and take them down lmfao, basically feminism in a nutshell XFD

it's just sad how they wait for others to speak, how about putting your career prospects and reputation on the line instead? grow a backbone already. call me when they stop following trends and actually act instead of pretending to go through all this victim dilemma bullshit, like I can literally type on a message board on gamefaqs that I was sexually harrassed and so can they! it's that easy.

all of these statements should be taken with a grain of salt. women are just trying to profit from social media buzz and virtue signal for attention. just pitiful. this is why liberals lost the election and will lose the next one.


They'll lose the next one cause they have NO competent leadership whatsoever.


Didn't stop the Republicans last November, and THEY were coming off a Dem president that improved the country and was widely popular.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
10/17/17 12:53:48 PM
#247:


tazzyboyishere posted...
Real courage is learning how to defeat every boss in Dark Souls without summons.


Pattern recognition...

There you go.

Just as easy as lying about being sexually asaulted
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SSJBKK20Vegito
10/17/17 12:55:39 PM
#248:


Espeon posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
Omniscientless posted...
these women are just greedy, literally putting their careers and professional success first like cowards over choosing to be the total nobodies who can denounce those douchebags in power and take them down lmfao, basically feminism in a nutshell XFD

it's just sad how they wait for others to speak, how about putting your career prospects and reputation on the line instead? grow a backbone already. call me when they stop following trends and actually act instead of pretending to go through all this victim dilemma bullshit, like I can literally type on a message board on gamefaqs that I was sexually harrassed and so can they! it's that easy.

all of these statements should be taken with a grain of salt. women are just trying to profit from social media buzz and virtue signal for attention. just pitiful. this is why liberals lost the election and will lose the next one.


They'll lose the next one cause they have NO competent leadership whatsoever.


Didn't stop the Republicans last November, and THEY were coming off a Dem president that improved the country and was widely popular.


He did everything opposite or improve the county. McConnell is a genius, hate him or not, and the ONLY time Obama was ever popular was the very end because he was leaving and he's genial and charismatic... (and because we were staring down the barrel of Trump/Hillary...)
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Suprak the Stud
10/17/17 1:14:53 PM
#249:


Nanis23 posted...
Let me clarify
I do not believe sexual harassment doesn't exist
I do not believe sexual harassment isn't a problem

BUT
I do believe propaganda exists
And I do believe people love to be attention whores

Now before you ask, "DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE WILL SAY THEY GOT RAPED JUST FOR ATTENTION?!?!"
Well, if you don't specify anything, no time, no place, no description, yes - it's extremely easy to do
Here-
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped
I got raped

See how simple that was?
I got raped hahaha lmao
See?


So easy that you literally recanted before you even posted it!

You can't even post it seriously here, where literally no one knows you or who you are.

Prove to foolmo how easy it is by posting it on your Facebook, without the whole "lol just kidding I wasn't raped this is hilarious" thing attached to it. If it is as simple as you say it is, you should have no problem doing it.
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foolm0r0n
10/17/17 1:27:00 PM
#250:


I just realized the "it's so easy to fake claim rape lmao" crowd is exactly the same as the "obviously I could've gotten into Harvard if I wanted, but Oklahoma State just has better culture!!" losers from high school. It's so obviously false to anyone looking at them, they can't possibly believe it's convincing. It's entirely for their own self-esteem. Why they tie false rape claims to their self-esteem though, I don't know.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
10/17/17 1:29:42 PM
#251:


foolm0r0n posted...
I just realized the "it's so easy to fake claim rape lmao" crowd is exactly the same as the "obviously I could've gotten into Harvard if I wanted, but Oklahoma State just has better culture!!" losers from high school. It's so obviously false to anyone looking at them, they can't possibly believe it's convincing. It's entirely for their own self-esteem. Why they tie false rape claims to their self-esteem though, I don't know.


It's very easy to claim it on FB... obviously it's much much harder to file a police report or something and have it be fake.
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foolm0r0n
10/17/17 1:32:09 PM
#252:


SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
It's very easy to claim it on FB...

And yet everyone ITT is DEATHLY AFRAID of doing it

How can something be extremely easy and also extremely terrifying such that no one is willing to do it?
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Peace___Frog
10/17/17 1:34:06 PM
#253:


Well also because the police are terrible at taking assault cases seriously. Just look at the cavalier nature of our own board cop. Many make the fully rational decision that coming forward to legal authorities is far far far far more trouble than tucking things away and hoping for the best.
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SSJBKK20Vegito
10/17/17 1:37:04 PM
#254:


foolm0r0n posted...
SSJBKK20Vegito posted...
It's very easy to claim it on FB...

And yet everyone ITT is DEATHLY AFRAID of doing it

How can something be extremely easy and also extremely terrifying such that no one is willing to do it?


I would have no problem with it, but Emily has ACTUALLY been raped, and she didn't put "me too" because people who've been told they were hot at work did... So yeah, if she didn't I'm certainly not gonna make a joke about it on FB.
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