Poll of the Day > College is actually pretty easy :)

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English all I have to do is read each week, we have like a month to get papers done, some times you have to write a page long essay but that's easy.

Psych is a little difficult because the homework requires you to read ahead and is due before you even go over the chapter in class, but it's manageable.

Media class is just easy, editing is fun so I just take the wheel and go wherever I want with the assignments.

That's because (for the most part), you can CHOOSE what classes you want.

Yeah but TC if you studied thermodynamic astrophysics and advanced biochemical warfare you wouldn't be saying that
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Choosing "easy mode" for college locks you out of certain "features" later in life, TC. Might wanna switch to at least Normal difficulty.
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YonicBoom posted...

Choosing "easy mode" for college locks you out of certain "features" later in life, TC. Might wanna switch to at least Normal difficulty.

Fake News

Honestly, networking is the biggest take away you get from College. Thats why Greek life is the way to go
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Then maybe you need to pick a different college.
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Zeus posted...

Then maybe you need to pick a different college.

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Easy until you get a professor who can barely read, barely speak English, barely teach, is barely alive, and barely knows what day of the week it is.

Then he gets angry at the class for doing something he never even assigned in the first place
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Choose a challenging major
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>media class
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joemodda posted...

Easy until you get a professor who can barely read, barely speak English, barely teach, is barely alive, and barely knows what day of the week it is.

Then he gets angry at the class for doing something he never even assigned in the first place

Why did you pick him?
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TheWorstPoster posted...

That's because (for the most part), you can CHOOSE what classes you want.

this, sort of, but not necessarily just because you can choose easy ones and avoid hard ones, but also because you can choose ones that fit you personally and avoid ones that don't. I sure as heck wouldn't pick English and Psych, for example.

but when you're actually interested in and skilled at the field you're taking, it's a breeze. you're getting credit for learning what you already want to learn and enjoy learning anyway.
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TheWorstPoster posted...

That's because (for the most part), you can CHOOSE what classes you want.

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It is kind of a bell curve (at least it was for me). Starts off pretty easy, gets more difficult around years 2 + 3, then the last year is pretty much a cake walk taking nothing but specialized classes and BS electives. I found it easier then high school, mostly because I didn't have 8 classes worth of homework every night.
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Sahuagin posted...

but when you're actually interested in and skilled at the field you're taking, it's a breeze. you're getting credit for learning what you already want to learn and enjoy learning anyway.

yeah this is pretty much bullshit. like, I disagree in every way. even if you are interested in a subject, the professors will attempt to suck all joy out of learning it. mostly through final exams, which are nothing short of an institutional torture device with no logical excuse.
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acesxhigh posted...

yeah this is pretty much bullshit. like, I disagree in every way. even if you are interested in a subject, the professors will attempt to suck all joy out of learning it. mostly through final exams, which are nothing short of an institutional torture device with no logical excuse.

not sure what you mean, I love taking exams. an exam you aren't prepared for is, yes, pretty awful. an exam you ARE prepared for, though, is awesome.

Dikitain posted...

Starts off pretty easy, gets more difficult around years 2 + 3, then the last year is pretty much a cake walk

this though, I feel the opposite. some first year courses are designed to cull a lot of students quickly, so you have to be careful about that. second and third year are just straight up 'learn this stuff and prove you learned it'. 4th year starts getting into nigh-graduate level stuff, where everything has an annoying group project and/or presentation attached to it. for me that was almost impossible to get through.
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It is already october this guy must have been colleging for a long time
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Sahuagin posted...

acesxhigh posted...

yeah this is pretty much bullshit. like, I disagree in every way. even if you are interested in a subject, the professors will attempt to suck all joy out of learning it. mostly through final exams, which are nothing short of an institutional torture device with no logical excuse.

not sure what you mean, I love taking exams. an exam you aren't prepared for is, yes, pretty awful. an exam you ARE prepared for, though, is awesome.

a couple points.
first of all, I'm a computer science student. computer science is nice because it lends itself very well to a kind of final "test" where you can apply the concepts you've learned to a hands-on project, but we often find ourselves drawing boxes or hand-writing Java code on a piece of paper for 3 hours instead. of course, this applies to most majors I think.

next I'll assert for most people, final exams are incredibly stressful. some students just break down during exam period, you see people crying in the library, it's pretty gnarly. there would have to be a pretty good reason for us to have finals if they're so bad.

so what's the reason? if there wasn't finals, so what? typically people will say it's to ensure the students understand the concepts in covered in class, or if they can retain the information. but typically students will cram just so they can pass 4 finals in a 2 week period and then forget everything anyway. I've had a few classes without finals and they were perfectly fine.

I could get into more fundamental questions like what even is the purpose of "grades" or "tests" anyway but I'll leave it with a simple statement, we should avoid final exams because we can. and because they suck.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

English all I have to do is read each week, we have like a month to get papers done, some times you have to write a page long essay but that's easy.

Psych is a little difficult because the homework requires you to read ahead and is due before you even go over the chapter in class, but it's manageable.

Media class is just easy, editing is fun so I just take the wheel and go wherever I want with the assignments.

when I went i'd have 3 classes at the same time give me 10-20 page papers to do. and a week to complete them.

rest of my classes where easy, but only because the teachers went completely out of their way to make it so.
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acesxhigh posted...

computer science is nice because it lends itself very well to a kind of final "test" where you can apply the concepts you've learned to a hands-on project, but we often find ourselves drawing boxes or hand-writing Java code on a piece of paper for 3 hours instead.

in software engineering, you might be drawing a lot of diagrams. otherwise yes, it's going to be hand written code, which feels really weird and there isn't a lot of preparation for, as well as obviously a lot of math, depending on the specific course. but, I mean, there's no exam easier than a computer science exam, for me anyway. again, it's only bad if you aren't prepared for it. really, comp-sci exams are often *embarrassingly* easy.

for example, some classes (harder math courses are often like this) will teach you concepts A, B, and C. unfortunately, what's on the exams is not A, B, and C, but G, H, and I, which were implied by D, E, and F, which were themselves implied by A, B, and C. and you'd only know that by doing the exercises.

comp-sci is almost never the hard version. you learn A, B, and C, and the exam is A, B, and C. if there's any challenge, it will be in the assignments. which is because that's where you have to prove you can actually program, not on the exams.

acesxhigh posted...

next I'll assert for most people, final exams are incredibly stressful. some students just break down during exam period, you see people crying in the library, it's pretty gnarly. there would have to be a pretty good reason for us to have finals if they're so bad.

I remember taking finals, there's almost always that guy who lets out a huge sigh every 5 minutes, and spends most of his time fidgeting in frustration. but that's a guy who's not prepared for the exam. I've been that guy at least a few times. all you have to do to avoid that is be prepared for the exam.

acesxhigh posted...

typically students will cram just so they can pass 4 finals in a 2 week period and then forget everything anyway.

'cramming' shouldn't be necessary. heck I don't even 'study' for exams. that's not what I mean by prepared. the trick, that I admit took me a long time to learn, is that the whole point of all of this is to make yourself an expert. the problem with school is treating it like this game where you learn things and then are tested on it, and how well you played the game determines your score/grade. that's not how to look at it.

if you're an undergraduate, it's your 'job' to make yourself an expert at whatever field you're pursuing. that's the goal of being a student. this is why it's important to select a major that you're compatible with.

at first this is really hard, because there's just so much to learn. but if you focus on becoming an expert, eventually you get to a point where it's the opposite. you start yearning for new things to learn. what is left to learn that I haven't already covered? then you become *eager* to take a new course that teaches something you don't already know, because that's what you're there for. if there's something to learn that you don't already know, that's what you're craving!

(and then getting into graduate school, you begin to reach the limit of what there is to know about your field, and it starts being up to *you* to push the field forward, if you can.)

so, with the mindset of "it's my job to make myself an expert", when you take a course, don't approach it like you're playing a game where you see how little work you can get away with and still get a good grade. approach it like this is an opportunity to become a literal expert at this subject. read the damn textbook. do the assignments as well as you can and use them as tools to identify what you're missing, and then fill in the gaps. master the subject and the exam is cake.
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Sahuagin posted...

'cramming' shouldn't be necessary. heck I don't even 'study' for exams. that's not what I mean by prepared. the trick, that I admit took me a long time to learn, is that the whole point of all of this is to make yourself an expert. the problem with school is treating it like this game where you learn things and then are tested on it, and how well you played the game determines your score/grade. that's not how to look at it.

well I think if you decide it's not a game that's fine but then you are in complete dissonance with the institution.

Sahuagin posted...

approach it like this is an opportunity to become a literal expert at this subject.

I get what you're saying, but I guess I just don't care enough about these subjects to do that. Maybe that means I'm not compatible with CS but I did an internship in the field and I decided ultimately that it's a career I would enjoy. so now the school thing is kinda just "in the way" for me.
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mastermix3000 posted...

Honestly, networking is the biggest take away you get from College. Thats why Greek life is the way to go

Wait, how true is this? I haven't joined any fraternities yet as I never thought I'd fit into one but maybe I should reconsider...

DistantMemory posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

Honestly, networking is the biggest take away you get from College. Thats why Greek life is the way to go

Wait, how true is this? I haven't joined any fraternities yet as I never thought I'd fit into one but maybe I should reconsider...

actually I think there is a social media site thats for networking. its like facebook but it focus's on people's job histories and such.

seen my mom use it to keep in contact with ex co-workers if she ever needs to go back to where they work, or to where they work now if they changed jobs. they can at least tell her if they are hiring, put in a good word etc.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

DistantMemory posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

Honestly, networking is the biggest take away you get from College. Thats why Greek life is the way to go

Wait, how true is this? I haven't joined any fraternities yet as I never thought I'd fit into one but maybe I should reconsider...

actually I think there is a social media site thats for networking. its like facebook but it focus's on people's job histories and such.

seen my mom use it to keep in contact with ex co-workers if she ever needs to go back to where they work, or to where they work now if they changed jobs. they can at least tell her if they are hiring, put in a good word etc.

you're thinking of Linked In
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acesxhigh posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

DistantMemory posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

Honestly, networking is the biggest take away you get from College. Thats why Greek life is the way to go

Wait, how true is this? I haven't joined any fraternities yet as I never thought I'd fit into one but maybe I should reconsider...

actually I think there is a social media site thats for networking. its like facebook but it focus's on people's job histories and such.

seen my mom use it to keep in contact with ex co-workers if she ever needs to go back to where they work, or to where they work now if they changed jobs. they can at least tell her if they are hiring, put in a good word etc.

you're thinking of Linked In

yeah thats it. wasn't sure if I had the spelling right, or if the words where ran together, separate etc.
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You'll be surprised.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

English all I have to do is read each week, we have like a month to get papers done, some times you have to write a page long essay but that's easy.

Psych is a little difficult because the homework requires you to read ahead and is due before you even go over the chapter in class, but it's manageable.

Media class is just easy, editing is fun so I just take the wheel and go wherever I want with the assignments.

FAMU?
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I've just transferred from community college to a state university, and the difficulty is like night and day. I always feel like I'm drowning in homework and s***.

so, with the mindset of "it's my job to make myself an expert", when you take a course, don't approach it like you're playing a game where you see how little work you can get away with and still get a good grade. approach it like this is an opportunity to become a literal expert at this subject. read the damn textbook. do the assignments as well as you can and use them as tools to identify what you're missing, and then fill in the gaps. master the subject and the exam is cake.

That's all well and good if you have the time, which I don't :P

computer science is nice because it lends itself very well to a kind of final "test" where you can apply the concepts you've learned to a hands-on project, but we often find ourselves drawing boxes or hand-writing Java code on a piece of paper for 3 hours instead.

I hated that in particular. At the community college, our CS tests were split between multiple choice and a program we had to implement. That wasn't too bad. But at my university the majority of my Java midterm was "write out this program method" or "that uml diagram." I got 114/115 points for my class project, but I nearly bombed the test cuz they didn't give us nearly enough time. :/
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