Current Events > Asshurt VP Mike Pence leaves Niners/Colts game over anthem protests.

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Cornmuffins
10/08/17 1:52:25 PM
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http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/10/08/vice-president-mike-pence-leaves-colts-game-over-protests-during-anthem/744277001/

Vice President Mike Pence tweeted Sunday that he left the Indianapolis Colts game against the San Francisco 49ers because of protests during the national anthem.

No Colts players knelt during the anthem, but some 49ers players did.

Pence tweeted this statement:

"I left today's Colts game because President Trump and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem. At at time when so many Americans are inspiring our nation with their courage, resolve, and resilience, now, more than ever, we should rally around our Flag and everything that unites us. While everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I don't think it's too much to ask NFL players to respect the Flag and our National Anthem. I stand with President Trump, I stand with our soldiers, and I will always stand for our Flag and our National Anthem."

Pence was in town to recognize former Colts great Peyton Manning. This weekend, a statue for Manning was unveiled, his number was retired and his name was put in the team's Ring of Honor.

Also Sunday, Colin Kaepernick said he would stand for the national anthem should he have the opportunity to play again in the NFL.

Kaepernick sat for the anthem, then knelt, last season, sparking national debate over social awareness by NFL players and respect for the flag and national anthem.

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untrustful
10/08/17 1:55:03 PM
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They went to this game knowing there was going to be kneeling. That's like a black man intentionally going into a bar with Milo and KKK, only to be mad at the racism and leave.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/08/17 1:57:13 PM
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What about when a soldier takes a knee to protest what the US is doing?

How does Pence respond then?
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Skye Reynolds
10/08/17 1:57:44 PM
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Good.
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John_Galt
10/08/17 1:58:07 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Good.

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Skye Reynolds
10/08/17 1:58:20 PM
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The downside is that this more or less solidifies the whole "protesting the flag is protesting Trump" bullshit.
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Fishy
10/08/17 1:58:33 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
What about when a soldier takes a knee to protest what the US is doing?

How does Pence respond then?

That's actually illegal and will get them in a lot of trouble.
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untrustful
10/08/17 1:58:38 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
How does Pence respond then?

Mike Pence Statement...
"I left today's military event because President Trump and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our military, our Flag, or our National Anthem. At at time when so many Americans are inspiring our nation with their courage, resolve, and resilience, now, more than ever, we should rally around our Flag and everything that unites us. While everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I don't think it's too much to ask soldiers to respect the Flag and our National Anthem. I stand with President Trump, I stand with our military, and I will always stand for our Flag and our National Anthem."

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badasstion
10/08/17 1:59:26 PM
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John_Galt posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Good.
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Kaname_Madoka
10/08/17 2:00:04 PM
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Asshurt is such a bad word. It looks like it would be pronounced as shirt

But lol pence
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hortanz
10/08/17 2:00:05 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
The downside is that this more or less solidifies the whole "protesting the flag is protesting Trump" bullshit.


despite evidence from both sides you're still going to align with the narrative that makes you angriest, yikes
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lowtides
10/08/17 2:00:16 PM
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Hes just as bad as Trump
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UnfairRepresent
10/08/17 2:02:02 PM
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Kinda sad how they use "The soldiers fighting for our freedom!" as an argument against using freedom to protest ills...

And then they turn around and don't help the soldiers with illnesses/PTDS and no career prospects live....

The right wing "The Soldiers" thing is such abstract horseshit to play on people's emotions like a harp without actually addressing a point.
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Cornmuffins
10/08/17 2:02:44 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Good.


Why? Please elaborate.
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Bishop9800
10/08/17 2:03:13 PM
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Wahhh!!! They're exercising their right or free speech. Somebody stop them.
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Antifar
10/08/17 2:04:40 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Kinda sad how they use "The soldiers fighting for our freedom!" as an argument against using freedom to protest ills...

It's a very clever ploy, turning any protest of the country's issues into a protest of "the troops" who We All Must Support. It comes from the same people who responded to opposition of the Iraq War with "support the troops!"
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/08/17 2:05:57 PM
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I just find it interesting how any government that is formed in the US doesn't really support the soldiers they so dearly love and respect after they are done with armed combat.
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JlM
10/08/17 2:06:21 PM
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There was also a woman seated within 10 rows of him, making him feel uncomfortable.
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Duncanwii
10/08/17 2:06:27 PM
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Fishy posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
What about when a soldier takes a knee to protest what the US is doing?

How does Pence respond then?

That's actually illegal and will get them in a lot of trouble.

How?
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Fishy
10/08/17 2:12:07 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Fishy posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
What about when a soldier takes a knee to protest what the US is doing?

How does Pence respond then?

That's actually illegal and will get them in a lot of trouble.

How?

UCMJ prevents it. A common example is the guy that bashed Obama on Facebook was discharged. Another Sailor recorded a video of herself sitting for colors like Kaepernick, she was also punished.
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Bishop9800
10/08/17 2:13:25 PM
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Fishy posted...
UCMJ prevents it. A common example is the guy that bashed Obama on Facebook was punished. Another Sailor recorded a video of herself sitting for colors like Kaepernick, she was also punished.


This. I was about to post the UCMJ on this.
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Freddie_Mercury
10/08/17 2:18:50 PM
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did he leave during the anthem
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/08/17 2:20:09 PM
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Fishy posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Fishy posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
What about when a soldier takes a knee to protest what the US is doing?

How does Pence respond then?

That's actually illegal and will get them in a lot of trouble.

How?

UCMJ prevents it. A common example is the guy that bashed Obama on Facebook was discharged. Another Sailor recorded a video of herself sitting for colors like Kaepernick, she was also punished.


What about veterans who are no longer on active duty? I'm intrigued into how far the law goes (I am Canadian).
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Glass_Phantom
10/08/17 2:20:30 PM
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I bet thousands of veterans are enjoying the football game... Unlike the president and vice-president, they don't get into a tizzy (or pretend to) over some football players.
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Fishy
10/08/17 2:21:11 PM
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It only applies to active. Basically you can't use your military service as a political piece.
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MB2012
10/08/17 2:21:55 PM
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Sounds like the snowflake vp needs his safespace
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10/08/17 2:22:43 PM
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Duncanwii
10/08/17 2:23:43 PM
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Fishy posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Fishy posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
What about when a soldier takes a knee to protest what the US is doing?

How does Pence respond then?

That's actually illegal and will get them in a lot of trouble.

How?

UCMJ prevents it. A common example is the guy that bashed Obama on Facebook was discharged. Another Sailor recorded a video of herself sitting for colors like Kaepernick, she was also punished.

Ok, so what I'm hearing here is that the same people who fight for our right to protest the government aren't allowed to protest the government? That's asinine. That's beyond that and loops into hypocritical.
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Hexenherz
10/08/17 2:24:36 PM
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"I left today's Colts game because President Trump and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem."


So they won't dignify peoples' expression of their Constitutional Rights because that's somehow unamerican or what?

Seriously this shit pisses me off so much.
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ledbowman
10/08/17 2:24:59 PM
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Mike Pence is a gay man.
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Fishy
10/08/17 2:27:05 PM
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You can hold whatever opinion and attend whatever rally you want as long as you're not in uniform and not claiming to represent the armed forces.

The problem is the second a news headline reads "Soldier kneels for anthem"
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Duncanwii
10/08/17 2:27:50 PM
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Fishy posted...
You can hold whatever opinion and attend whatever rally you want as long as you're not in uniform and not claiming to represent the armed forces.

The problem is the second a news headline reads "Soldier kneels for anthem"

Again asinine.
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Bluebomber182
10/08/17 2:31:35 PM
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this jackass finds a silent protest disrespectful but he serves under the guy who was shitting on pows & a goldstar family
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Unsugarized_Foo
10/08/17 2:33:08 PM
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Pence be all like #whenbaetextsherdy an' he bailed
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BLAKUboy
10/08/17 2:33:51 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
this jackass finds a silent protest disrespectful but he serves under the guy who was shitting on pows & a goldstar family

It's okay when "Republicans" do it.
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Antifar
10/08/17 2:34:25 PM
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Weird move from the "keep politics out of football" crowd imo
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/08/17 2:34:53 PM
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Active soldiers are in a tough situation, because to be a soldier you basically do forfeit your rights to autonomy in a way. Granted, you shouldn't be forced to break the law, but... I dunno, that is tough.

Few Good Men kinda shows how funky the laws can be on it all.
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Bishop9800
10/08/17 2:36:47 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Bluebomber182 posted...
this jackass finds a silent protest disrespectful but he serves under the guy who was shitting on pows & a goldstar family

It's okay when "Republicans" do it.


When they do it, it's called "MAGA". When others do it, it called "being disrespectful".
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Duncanwii
10/08/17 2:38:15 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Active soldiers are in a tough situation, because to be a soldier you basically do forfeit your rights to autonomy in a way. Granted, you shouldn't be forced to break the law, but... I dunno, that is tough.

Few Good Men kinda shows how funky the laws can be on it all.

I greatly value my individuality and my rights as an American citizen. I'd make a terrible soldier.
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Capn Circus
10/08/17 2:39:12 PM
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Good leadership from Pence. More Americans should probably follow and we wouldn't have these BS SJW protest Trump side shows
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Sada_Pop
10/08/17 2:40:50 PM
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Damn. The narrative has shifted so hard that it's an "anthem protest" above all else....
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MarqueeSeries
10/08/17 2:40:55 PM
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Pence doesn't care about soldiers
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Bishop9800
10/08/17 2:42:17 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
More Americans should probably follow and we wouldn't have these BS SJW protest Trump side shows


Bullet_Wing posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Wahhh!!! They're exercising their right or free speech. Somebody stop them.


Spooking posted...
I agree with Pence, disrespecting the anthem all because Trump won the election. No shame.


How are they "disrespecting" anything?
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UnfairRepresent
10/08/17 2:42:26 PM
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MarqueeSeries posted...
Pence doesn't care about soldiers

Seems like it
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
10/08/17 2:44:24 PM
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To quote a cheesy movie that I love...

"You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms."
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ninjarobot_22
10/08/17 2:59:01 PM
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Just In: Mike Pence lost a pair of balls during Niners/Colts game.
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creativerealms
10/08/17 3:01:25 PM
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Did he go to the game just to walk out? He knew people would protest right?
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