Current Events > Jim Sterling discusses Youtube's YouTube problem

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYinPJTxBNU

I fully agree. It's disgusting how Youtube flat out refuses to communicate with it's creators ,have any human oversight, and go out of their way to deepthroat copyright holders.

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How can Jim Sterling even fit in a Youtube video anyways?
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legendarylemur posted...

How can Jim Sterling even fit in a Youtube video anyways?

borrowed the wide angle lense your mom uses to make her sex tapes
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Jim Sterling is a pompous ass, but he's our pompous ass.

There has been legitimate positive changes made to certain games because of him.
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Frolex posted...

legendarylemur posted...

How can Jim Sterling even fit in a Youtube video anyways?

borrowed the wide angle lense your mom uses to make her sex tapes

Noice
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pres_madagascar posted...

There has been legitimate positive changes made to certain games because of him.

Like what?
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jim sterling is trash

i don't get jim sterlings humor, and i feel like he just talks about the same shit over and over.

or if he deviates from shitting about steam greenlight and microtransactions, he talks about something like this which everyone else has already bitched and moaned about.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXhqmRYoR3k

swap boogie for jim sterling and its all true

50Blessings posted...

i don't get jim sterlings humor, and i feel like he just talks about the same shit over and over.

or if he deviates from shitting about steam greenlight and microtransactions, he talks about something like this which everyone else has already bitched and moaned about.

Yeah somebody finally got it. I actually sorta liked a few of his videos... like 5 or more years ago when the topic was fresh and he was still obligated to do his best in Destructoid. Nowadays he just seeks controversy where there are none and regurgitates the same point in a different place where the same thing is happening.

He should be going into irrelevancy but folks like ZombiePelican keeps him alive, so what can you do
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Honestly, any serious content creators should be looking into hosting their stuff privately and only using youtube as a secondary venue to draw in viewers. Don't know how anyone expects Youtube to help anyone at its current scale, unless that person has lots and lots of money already.
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50Blessings posted...

i don't get jim sterlings humor, and i feel like he just talks about the same shit over and over.

Because publishers keep pulling the same shit over and over. He's said time and time again if publishers wouldn't pull stunts like this he wouldn't report on it

50Blessings posted...

or if he deviates from shitting about steam greenlight and microtransactions, he talks about something like this which everyone else has already bitched and moaned about.

YouTube is a large platform many creators parrot his same message, it's just whose mouth you enjoy hearing it from

legendarylemur posted...

Yeah somebody finally got it

That you're a pseudo intellectual who hates on him based soley off what you've heard other people parrot?

legendarylemur posted...

like 5 or more years ago when the topic was fresh and he was still obligated to do his best in Destructoid.

He still does and even more so since he's independent via Patreon, I'm sorry of you don't like his content but you cannot say his quality has gone down from his time at Destructoid

legendarylemur posted...

Nowadays he just seeks controversy where there are none and regurgitates the same point in a different place where the same thing is happening.

Lol what? You've literally never seen a single Jimquisition and are only parroting what you hear about him from completely wrong hate circlejerk sessions.

How has he ever chased controversy where there is none? Name one time

legendarylemur posted...

He should be going into irrelevancy but folks like ZombiePelican keeps him alive, so what can you do

The fact you get so asshurt about him and felt the need to post disproves your point
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ZombiePelican posted...

Because publishers keep pulling the same s*** over and over. He's said time and time again if publishers wouldn't pull stunts like this he wouldn't report on it

"report"
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50Blessings posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Because publishers keep pulling the same s*** over and over. He's said time and time again if publishers wouldn't pull stunts like this he wouldn't report on it

"report"

Yeah report. I'm sorry you don't like his content but no amount of disingenuous deflection will change that
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I'll never understand how people make so much money just repeating the same shit over and over.

This isn't just a Jim Sterling thing, mind you, this is all of youtube gaming "journalism" for the most part.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

I'll never understand how people make so much money just repeating the same shit over and over.

Do you watch sitcoms by any chance?
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ZombiePelican posted...

Do you watch sitcoms by any chance?

lol I haven't watched a sitcom in like 15 years besides some Seinfeld re runs maybe.
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jim takes whatever fedora-nerds are complaining about this week, repeats it back to them in a british accent and tells them they're completely right to be so up in arms about something so fucking irrelevant to the world, and then rakes in the dough. what a cushy fucking life.

Goddamn you guys will complain about anything.

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Do you watch sitcoms by any chance?

lol I haven't watched a sitcom in like 15 years besides some Seinfeld re runs maybe.

What about stand up comedy?

KhlavicLanguage posted...

Point on the doll where Jim Sterling touched you

Rhylos posted...

Goddamn you guys will complain about anything.

I know it's insane. He's reporting on the mounting problems Youtube is creating for their creators and being entirely mute about it all in the process and yet all they can do is parrot "hurr durr heez fat" over and over as if it means anything
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ZombiePelican posted...

mounting problems Youtube is creating for their creators

fuck the creators. seriously. what's happening to them is the market correcting itself. people filming themselves shouting into cameras about video games was never meant to pull that much money. jim and his ilk are entitled as fuck to think it'd last forever.

KhlavicLanguage posted...

fuck the creators. seriously. what's happening to them is the market correcting itself.

Wow, why are you hateful and bitter, people are losing their livelihoods and all you can say is "fuck you, you deserve this"?

YouTube themselves fostered this industry and mentality and they them themselves begin to pull the rug out from everyone after they got settled, it's on them for having no human oversight for anything and being entirely mute about it, leaving the creators scrambling and struggling to adjust

KhlavicLanguage posted...

people filming themselves shouting into cameras about video games was never meant to pull that much money.

Says who exactly, you? If people wouldn't flock to this content you'd have a point but you don't and they do no matter how asshurt and bitter their success makes you they pulled that much money and they deserve it

KhlavicLanguage posted...

jim and his ilk are entitled as fuck to think it'd last forever.

Why, people watch their content religiously and have been for years now why do they deserve nothing for their success?
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ZombiePelican posted...

Says who exactly, you?

says their massive fucking paycut since it was determined that x views does't equal y dollars as previously thought. that shit was always a bubble. they keep trying to make the issue into one of corporate negligence or whatever the fuck but alas

KhlavicLanguage posted...

says their massive fucking paycut since it was determined that x views does't equal y dollars as previously thought.

And then creators turned to Patreon because Youtube started slashing their ad revenue and now Youtube is trying to cut Patreon out of the picture making it even harder for their creators to make a living.

KhlavicLanguage posted...

that shit was always a bubble.

If that's the case why are people still flocking to watch content from Youtube creators? If it was just a bubble as you claim nobody would be on Youtube

KhlavicLanguage posted...

they keep trying to make the issue into one of corporate negligence or whatever the fuck but alas

See now you're just being a disingenuous contrarian for the sake of it and that's not cool
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ZombiePelican posted...

What about stand up comedy?

Not much. I have been given shit on this board for not thinking Louis CK is that good because he just makes the same kind of joke over and over though.

But keep on trying to prove some point because you can't stop slobbing Jim's knob.
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ZombiePelican posted...

Why, people watch their content religiously and have been for years now why do they deserve nothing for their success?

They don't deserve ad money because most Youtube content is, apparently, garbage and not ad friendly.

It is entitlement. At least Jim Sterling had the brains to know that he wasn't going to be advertiser friendly and went the Patreon Route.

And if they can make a living on Patreon, then more power to them.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

But keep on trying to prove some point because you can't stop slobbing Jim's knob.

I'm sorry I refuse to listen to the mental gymnastics of contrarians hating someone because it's a meme to hate them
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ZombiePelican posted...

I'm sorry I refuse to listen to the mental gymnastics of contrarians hating someone because it's a meme to hate them

You literally always listen and respond whenever someone posts anything negative about Jim Sterling, so you're not really fooling anyone with this word vomit.
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ZombiePelican posted...

If that's the case why are people still flocking to watch content from Youtube creators?

the speculated value of ad revenue per view was a bubble. it burst. you keep fixating on the number of viewers when it's their perceived worth that's been corrected

ZombiePelican posted...

See now you're just being a disingenuous contrarian for the sake of it and that's not cool

no i'm not, that's literally what's happening. youtubers are making shitty excuses for why their income has decreased and you're buying into it when the reality is they never should've been making that kind of money in the first place

50Blessings posted...

They don't deserve ad money because most Youtube content is, apparently, garbage and not ad friendly.

Will you actually watch the fucking video instead of talking out of your ass to be a fucking contrarian troll? Almost all of Jim's content was worthy of being monetized when reviewed by an actual fucking human and not one of Youtube's poorly programmed bots. Get it yet? All of this stems from Youtube's lack of human oversight and insistence on silence when it comes to fucking lifestyle changing changes that should have been clearly communicated long before taking action

50Blessings posted...

It is entitlement. At least Jim Sterling had the brains to know that he wasn't going to be advertiser friendly and went the Patreon Route.

Wanting to be paid for your work is entitlement? I can't even. Most of the people getting demonetized aren't as button pushing as Jim and don't deserve to be demonetized and even the ones on Patreon are now going to have even more trouble doing that thanks to another poorly communicated mess from Youtube

50Blessings posted...

And if they can make a living on Patreon, then more power to them

Youtube is making it harder to get people to head to a creator's Patreon, what about this is so fucking hard to understand?
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

You literally always listen and respond whenever someone posts anything negative about Jim Sterling,

Mostly because most of the hate isn't grounded in reality or is just people parroting the same irrelevant meme to try and discredit his opinion before even listening to even a single word said. You can dislike his content all you want but at least come up with an actual reason instead of making shit up for the sake of being a contrarian

KhlavicLanguage posted...

the speculated value of ad revenue per view was a bubble. it burst. you keep fixating on the number of viewers when it's their perceived worth that's been corrected

Again, if you'd actually watch the fucking video or pay attention to anything to doesn't echo your own confirmation bias alot of what's losing ad revenue isn't even worthy of being demonetized but is a result of their bots going wild and them letting the community deal with it while doing absolutely nothing

KhlavicLanguage posted...

it burst. you keep fixating on the number of viewers when it's their perceived worth that's been corrected

It hasn't because there is no bubble and this is a result of Youtube's laziness and insistence on silence. Shit like the adpocolypse is on the heads of Youtube and their need for a shotgun approach to everything instead of actually making ads fit videos appropriate for them and once again leaving their creators to pick up the pieces while they sit in silence

KhlavicLanguage posted...

no i'm not, that's literally what's happening. youtubers are making shitty excuses for why their income has decreased and you're buying into it when the reality is they never should've been making that kind of money in the first place

See I can't understand this pro corporate anti creator mentality. You're being a contrarian troll for the sake of it and again thay's not cool. They got paid this because people felt they were worth it, Youtube fucks up with their laziness and muteness and now creators are struggling to make a living, shit like the adpocolypse and the content ID fiasco are all on their heads because YouTube hates the idea of actual human oversight instead of relying on bots that can't convey things like context or tone
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Frolex posted...

legendarylemur posted...

How can Jim Sterling even fit in a Youtube video anyways?

borrowed the wide angle lense your mom uses to make her sex tapes

Savage
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ZombiePelican posted...

Will you actually watch the f***ing video instead of talking out of your ass to be a f***ing contrarian troll? Almost all of Jim's content was worthy of being monetized when reviewed by an actual f***ing human and not one of Youtube's poorly programmed bots. Get it yet? All of this stems from Youtube's lack of human oversight and insistence on silence when it comes to f***ing lifestyle changing changes that should have been clearly communicated long before taking action

Yeah, Jim Sterlin with foul language, his weirdo cornflake masks and big purple dildos is the textbook example of ad friendly content.

ZombiePelican posted...

Wanting to be paid for your work is entitlement? I can't even. Most of the people getting demonetized aren't as button pushing as Jim and don't deserve to be demonetized and even the ones on Patreon are now going to have even more trouble doing that thanks to another poorly communicated mess from Youtube

It's entitlement to want advertisers to advertise on your videos when you're producing content they don't agree with. That's why I say if they go the Patreon, Subscription or Merch route I have all the respect for them doing so.

Also, now you're saying that Jim Sterling does push buttons? So which is it? Is he advertiser friendly or not?

Also stop bitching about them using bots. It's the nature of the beast. Youtube already loses money as it is they don't have the funds to pay people to check out every single video just to find out that they are, in fact, swearing and doing all sorts of shit advertisers do not like.
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50Blessings posted...

Yeah, Jim Sterlin with foul language, his weirdo cornflake masks and big purple dildos is the textbook example of ad friendly content.

Yeah actually. The Jimquisition isn't monetized currently but whatever current videos he does have that keep getting demonetized by bots and then when reviewed by an actual fucking person they were ok for monetization. You'd know this if you actually watch the fucking video but you have to keep up your contrarian act to save face. it's gotten entertaining at this point.

50Blessings posted...

It's entitlement to want advertisers to advertise on your videos when you're producing content they don't agree with

Lol entitlement, as if that buzzword hasn't been done to death already. No it's not entitlement to want the site that said you can make a living off of this to actually provide a fucking living for the life blood of their entire site. These asshurt advertisers Youtube keeps trying to constantly kiss the asses of need to realize people come to Youtube for the creators not the advertisers

50Blessings posted...

That's why I say if they go the Patreon, Subscription or Merch route I have all the respect for them doing so.

AGAIN, Youtube has literally made it much harder for channels to give people access to outside funding to sites like Patreon, once again making it harder for their creators to make a living while being completely mute about it, but this goes against your contrarian narrative so you'll just ignore it again

50Blessings posted...

Also, now you're saying that Jim Sterling does push buttons? So which is it? Is he advertiser friendly or not?

Certain material is other is not.

50Blessings posted...

Also stop bitching about them using bots. It's the nature of the beast.

No, I refuse to pretend fucking GOOGLE can't afford to hire human oversight and not do this is the most lazy and ineffective way of going about this. Quit making excuses for one of the biggest companies on Earth penny pinching

50Blessings posted...

Youtube already loses money as it is they don't have the funds to pay people to check out every single video just to find out that they are, in fact, swearing and doing all sorts of shit advertisers do not like.

Youtube still not being profitable isn't our problem, it's the problem of one entity and one entity alone, Google. I consume dozens of hours of Youtube content every week as do many others, if you control one of the biggest sites on fucking Earth today and it's not profitable then that's Google's problem and their problem ALONE not the problem for creators and consumers to bear
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legendarylemur posted...

50Blessings posted...

i don't get jim sterlings humor, and i feel like he just talks about the same shit over and over.

or if he deviates from shitting about steam greenlight and microtransactions, he talks about something like this which everyone else has already bitched and moaned about.

Yeah somebody finally got it. I actually sorta liked a few of his videos... like 5 or more years ago when the topic was fresh and he was still obligated to do his best in Destructoid. Nowadays he just seeks controversy where there are none and regurgitates the same point in a different place where the same thing is happening.

He should be going into irrelevancy but folks like ZombiePelican keeps him alive, so what can you do

This is such a dumb post

"He pointed out problems years ago and they still exist so why is he STILL talking about them!?"

Because they still exist silly.
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Nobody owes Youtubers a living, buddy. The idea that they do is entitlement.

Get over it and get a real job if you can't handle making content advertisers want to advertise with.
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50Blessings posted...

Nobody owes Youtubers a living, buddy. The idea that they do is entitlement.

I don't believe anyone has ever said Youtube owes them money for nothing.

They just want basic things like information on how the site works and why videos can vanish or their money can drastically change.

Same way as if your paycheck was slashed in half and your company refused to do tell you why.

The idea your company owes you a living is entitlement but you are "entitled" to know what the company you're working for or with is actually doing and offering. That's not a big ask at all. It's completely reasonable.

50Blessings posted...

Get over it and get a real job if you can't handle making content advertisers want to advertise with.

But... that's the point?

The videos are videos advertises want to advertise. The Youtube A.I that censors them literally is undeveloped and takes videos down at random. It's been put into use crazy early as a kneejerk reaction to the aftermath of the WSJ's attack on Youtube and PewDiePie. It's not ready yet.

A video of a blank screen and no noise got demonitzed as offensive.

Almost any video that is demontized and challenged, comes back up once reviewed by humans.

Which means that big channels still get the ads, just later and with less views. Which means less money for them, less eyes on ads. Lose lose for everyone.

Meanwhile small channels don't get reviewed because Youtube will only reviews videos that get over a thousand views quickly. Which is actually the saddest thing, for sure channels that would have been great in the future now don't exist because they gave up on Youtube.

So this fucks over small growing channels forever, fucks over big channels a bit and fucks over the advertisers themselves.

Meanwhile it also actively tries to pull people away from advertising Twitch and Pateron as alternative money sources.

It's a really really dumb dumb system, even if you irrationally hate "Youtubers" It's still idiotic to defend this system just out of your bitterness
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