Current Events > Athiest who survived the Las Vegas Massacre is now a firm believer in GOD!!

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Taylor Benge, a young man who survived the Las Vegas Shooting that left 58 people dead and more than 500 people injured said he has been an agnostic-athiest is whole life but said after his brush with death that he is now a FIRM BELIEVER in GOD!!

He attended the Route 91 country music ffestivl and said witnessing and surviving the horror made him embrace his faith

He was clearly still shaken by the events as he spoke to a CNN anchor and said "I was agnostic going into that concert, and i'm a firm believer in God now becausee there's no way that all of that happened, and that i made it, and i was blessed enough to still be here alive talking to you today."

He explained that the vantage point of the shooter made him a quick target and how his sister threw herself ON TOP of him to shield him from the gunfire but they were both miraculously unhurt

Taylor knew that the gunner was high above the crowd because of how people were being hit while they were ducking for cover.

Taylor said he will now embrace God and start attending church as he thanks God for looking over him that night...

Do you believe in God?

Taylor -

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So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?
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Whatever helps him get through what he experienced. I'm not gonna judge him.
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Can we please ban this shitty daily mail bot? So sick of his spam
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St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

Mysterious ways, it was a test, in a better place, etc.
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If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

Nikra posted...

If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

your assuming God is nice and cares about human lives. maybe he did it on purpose for fun. like how I used to set off disasters in Sim City

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Can we please ban this shitty daily mail bot? So sick of his spam

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St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

This

Glad he survived but what a twisted perception
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Nikra posted...

If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

You clearly don't understand the religion, so why bother making such ignorant remarks?

First off, nothing according to the Judeo-Christian beliefs, death is not the end. So obviously under that belief, it should be embraced as opposed to feared as people who view death as 'the end' view it. From that alone it should be easy why it's silly as heck to use a situation such as this as a reason to claim God doesn't exist.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, events like this could serve as tests and/or testaments for the lives of others (i.e. this person in the video, or an event like this causing someone to come to evangelizing).

Disagree with that logic all you want, but to state what you are on this subject just exposes your ignorance to the subject.
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Darmik posted...

Whatever helps him get through what he experienced. I'm not gonna judge him.

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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Can we please ban this shitty daily mail bot? So sick of his spam

Duckbear is a treasure to CE and humanity, get off his fuzzy nuts you shitposter.
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St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

shhh ;)

looks like most say No
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That's quite an ego he has
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Damn, his sister threw herself on top of him?

Need pics of her to complete teh story

St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

The Book of Revelations does say that some folks are gonna get tossed into a pit of fire.
So maybe.

Mysterious ways, etc.

-Gavirulax- posted...

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Can we please ban this shitty daily mail bot? So sick of his spam

You have the ability to ignore messages from users via a pretty well known function, if it bothers you that much, do so.

Nah, he should be banned.
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Nikra posted...

If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

atheist: bad things wouldn't happen if there was a God
theist: bad things happen for a reason

The Epicurean argument versus the Book of Job argument, the endless cycle of thousands of years of fundamental differing.

I mean, I find that a bit questionable, but whatever floats his boat.

Terra-enforcer posted...

Nikra posted...

If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

You clearly don't understand the religion, so why bother making such ignorant remarks?

First off, nothing according to the Judeo-Christian beliefs, death is not the end. So obviously under that belief, it should be embraced as opposed to feared as people who view death as 'the end' view it. From that alone it should be easy why it's silly as heck to use a situation such as this as a reason to claim God doesn't exist.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, events like this could serve as tests and/or testaments for the lives of others (i.e. this person in the video, or an event like this causing someone to come to evangelizing).

Disagree with that logic all you want, but to state what you are on this subject just exposes your ignorance to the subject.

Its stuff like this why I cant support religoun...

No offense to you.

asdf8562 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Nikra posted...

If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

You clearly don't understand the religion, so why bother making such ignorant remarks?

First off, nothing according to the Judeo-Christian beliefs, death is not the end. So obviously under that belief, it should be embraced as opposed to feared as people who view death as 'the end' view it. From that alone it should be easy why it's silly as heck to use a situation such as this as a reason to claim God doesn't exist.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, events like this could serve as tests and/or testaments for the lives of others (i.e. this person in the video, or an event like this causing someone to come to evangelizing).

Disagree with that logic all you want, but to state what you are on this subject just exposes your ignorance to the subject.

Its stuff like this why I cant support religoun...

No offense to you.

Why?
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there's no way that all of that happened, and that i made it, and i was blessed enough to still be here alive talking to you today.

No. If you jump from an plane without parachute and survive then i'd understand. You just got lucky.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

asdf8562 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Nikra posted...

If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

You clearly don't understand the religion, so why bother making such ignorant remarks?

First off, nothing according to the Judeo-Christian beliefs, death is not the end. So obviously under that belief, it should be embraced as opposed to feared as people who view death as 'the end' view it. From that alone it should be easy why it's silly as heck to use a situation such as this as a reason to claim God doesn't exist.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, events like this could serve as tests and/or testaments for the lives of others (i.e. this person in the video, or an event like this causing someone to come to evangelizing).

Disagree with that logic all you want, but to state what you are on this subject just exposes your ignorance to the subject.

Its stuff like this why I cant support religoun...

No offense to you.

Why?

Not the other guy, but I'd guess because it makes you sound like a psychopath, and you weren't using religion as a blanket of cover, you would indeed be classified as one based off you're weird ass explanation, especially the part of "They should embrace it"

The fuck is wrong with you?
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Darmik posted...

Whatever helps him get through what he experienced. I'm not gonna judge him.

Honestly, this.
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Samurontai posted...

Not the other guy, but I'd guess because it makes you sound like a psychopath, and you weren't using religion as a blanket of cover, you would indeed be classified as one based off you're weird ass explanation, especially the part of "They should embrace it"

The fuck is wrong with you?

Because living a life in constant fear of death is so much more logical /s. You don't even have to be religious to subscribed to what a lot of which I am stating. By "embrace" I mean accept it as opposed to constantly running away from it. Only if you choose to follow those religious beliefs, there just happens to be something at the end of that "tunnel."

But anyway, it's my religion, not sure what else to tell you. Nothing is "wrong" with me. I'm just saying that death doesn't imply that you should waste so much time going "woe is me" or overexerting yourself on worrying and sadness. Those efforts won't change anything, so it only makes sense to go forward and be productive. And if you choose to believe in a God, you can trust that their spirit rests well.

If anything, something might be wrong with you if you think that mindset is so "outrageous." Not even remotely applicable to the term "psychopath" by any stretch of the imagination.
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People of all different religions make this same claim: I saw god!!! (omg look at me Im special!)

Ok. someone is lying. How do Christians respond to Muslims making these same claims? And how do Muslims respond to these claims? Surely you all cant be right.
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cerealbox760 posted...

People of all different religions make this same claim: I saw god!!!

Ok. someone is lying. How do Christians respond to Muslims making these same claims? And how do Muslims respond to these claims? Surely you all cant be right.

I mean, technically they're the same God, so bad example.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Because living a life in constant fear of death is so much more logical /s. You don't even have to be religious to subscribed to what a lot of which I am stating. By "embrace" I mean accept it as opposed to constantly running away from it. Only if you choose to follow those religious beliefs, there just happens to be something at the end of that "tunnel."

Uh, I'm an atheist who doesn't believe in god and am not afraid of dying. If I die, who cares? People will mourn and life will move on. I'm not psychotic enough to go around embracing death as if it's some sort of "end goal" that you should be proud of lmao.

If that's what you really meant by "embrace" btw, maybe you should have used a word that would actually make sense in that situation, instead of something that sounds insane.

And if you choose to believe in a God, you can trust that their spirit rests well.

Or you can be logical like me and move on, without all the magical mumbo jumbo.

If anything, something might be wrong with you...

Let me stop you right there lol

You don't get to pull that card when you believe what you do, sorry.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Because living a life in constant fear of death is so much more logical /s.

Lmao

the shit religious people say
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Terra-enforcer posted...

cerealbox760 posted...

People of all different religions make this same claim: I saw god!!!

Ok. someone is lying. How do Christians respond to Muslims making these same claims? And how do Muslims respond to these claims? Surely you all cant be right.

I mean, technically they're the same God, so bad example.

True, but one god promised the end of all wicked people while a different one promised the end of all frost giants.

Tell me, how many frost pants do you see roaming the world? :D

And before you start trying to bring science into it "but there are no fossils of frost giants so they never existed" let me remind you that there is no evidence of cockatrices, 7 headed beasts, or leviathans existing but the Bible mentions those

I'm sorry but there is more evidence that Odin exists than there is that your god does.

Sorry not sorry mah dude
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Looked gf posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Because living a life in constant fear of death is so much more logical /s.

Lmao

the shit religious people say

This actually makes no sense, but whatever man.
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Samurontai posted...

Or you can be logical like me and move on, without all the magical mumbo jumbo.

Samurontai posted...

You don't get to pull that card when you believe what you do, sorry.

It's silly crap like this why I'm not even going to bother entertaining you further. You sound like some kind of edgy teenager saying that. Can't just be an adult and convey your personal views without acting like a know it all who is the one person in the world with all knowledge on the key to the universe? Come back to me when you can manage to converse as an adult.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Samurontai posted...

Or you can be logical like me and move on, without all the magical mumbo jumbo.

Samurontai posted...

You don't get to pull that card when you believe what you do, sorry.

It's silly crap like this why I'm not even going to bother entertaining you further. You sound like some kind of edgy teenager saying that. Can't just be an adult and convey your personal views without acting like a know it all who is the one person in the world with all knowledge on the key to the universe? Come back to me when you can manage to converse as an adult.

Yes, every atheist, especially those who call out Christians on their ridiculous beliefs, are edgy teenagers, apparently incapable of aging as well because they've always been edgy teenagers

Please don't talk about "conversing like an adult" when you throw ridiculous accusations like that around. It makes you look incredibly dumb

Also the irony of calling someone else beliefs (or lack thereoff) "silly nonsense" while believing that a guy walked on water, another guy lived in a whale for years, and that another guy was somehow able to save two of each creature and then have the earth repopulated by said creatures, even though it's been proven that it literally would be impossible (factually so) for most species of animals to even be able to do that.

That's not even adding in the whole cockatrice, and leviathan bs
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Also the whole Jesus/zombie thing
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So God protected you for not believing in him, what would suddenly believing in him change?

Samurontai posted...

Yes, every atheist, especially those who call out Christians on their ridiculous beliefs, are edgy teenagers, apparently incapable of aging as well because they've always been edgy teenagers

Never once implied that. Only the ones who have to instantly go to the "you believe in a giant magical wizard whose son is a zombie" "your beliefs are wrong" and "what a load of garbage/mumbo jumbo XD"

THAT is what I'm referring to. YOU are the only one here who looks "dumb" instantly jumping to statements like that. It's like you're so jumpy and ready to insult me for my beliefs that you cannot even manage to have a logical discussion. So yeah, that's kind of the epitome of someone who I would consider an edgy teenager (if not a child) as opposed to an adult who can discuss topics like this without instantly running to insults. That's actually high school level shit (if not lower), and I'm not having it. That is not an even remotely intelligent mode of discussion, and I would hope no adult is seriously that childish.

Especially when based on what you've said itt, you've only proven your complete and utter ignorance on the religion you're berating, so yeah, you're the only silly looking one here. So again, I'll be here if you want to discuss things like adults, but clearly you do not appear to be even remotely capable of such a feat.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

asdf8562 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

Nikra posted...

If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

You clearly don't understand the religion, so why bother making such ignorant remarks?

First off, nothing according to the Judeo-Christian beliefs, death is not the end. So obviously under that belief, it should be embraced as opposed to feared as people who view death as 'the end' view it. From that alone it should be easy why it's silly as heck to use a situation such as this as a reason to claim God doesn't exist.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, events like this could serve as tests and/or testaments for the lives of others (i.e. this person in the video, or an event like this causing someone to come to evangelizing).

Disagree with that logic all you want, but to state what you are on this subject just exposes your ignorance to the subject.

Its stuff like this why I cant support religoun...

No offense to you.

Why?

Like I said its no offense to you on a personal level. But when I read stuff like what you posted I just cant. The TCs topic and your post embodies a few of my problem with religoun.
I want to go in further detail, but I prefer not to because it may come off as a personal attack which isnt my goal here.

The idea of this as a "test" is just silly. What was the test for those who died in the shooting? I imagine they wouldn't much appreciate getting murdered for the sake of some random guy's religious epiphany.
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If we have free will, then god plays no part in the actions of people.
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Darmik posted...

Whatever helps him get through what he experienced. I'm not gonna judge him.

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Dragonblade01 posted...

The idea of this as a "test" is just silly. What was the test for those who died in the shooting? I imagine they wouldn't much appreciate getting murdered for the sake of some random guy's religious epiphany.

The bible says that God tempts no man.

Terra-enforcer posted...

Because living a life in constant fear of death is so much more logical /s. You don't even have to be religious to subscribed to what a lot of which I am stating. By "embrace" I mean accept it as opposed to constantly running away from it. Only if you choose to follow those religious beliefs, there just happens to be something at the end of that "tunnel."

I don't believe in an afterlife and I still don't live in constant fear of death.
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sounds like an attention whore to me
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asdf8562 posted...

Like I said its no offense to you on a personal level. But when I read stuff like what you posted I just cant. The TCs topic and your post embodies a few out of my many problems with religoun.
I want to go in further detail, but I prefer not to because it may come off as a personal attack which isnt my goal here.

Fair enough. Thank you for ending this respectfully. Also don't use me as the sole orator. This is merely my perspective based on what I have read and studied. I could be further off the mark than I think.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Nikra posted...

If there was a god, it wouldn't had happen in the first place.

St0rmFury posted...

So I guess God didn't give a fuck about the dead victims?

You clearly don't understand the religion, so why bother making such ignorant remarks?

First off, nothing according to the Judeo-Christian beliefs, death is not the end. So obviously under that belief, it should be embraced as opposed to feared as people who view death as 'the end' view it. From that alone it should be easy why it's silly as heck to use a situation such as this as a reason to claim God doesn't exist.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, events like this could serve as tests and/or testaments for the lives of others (i.e. this person in the video, or an event like this causing someone to come to evangelizing).

Disagree with that logic all you want, but to state what you are on this subject just exposes your ignorance to the subject.

This is like a whole mental gymnastics. My issue with religioun, its logic tends to be when the argument suits me based.

First many atheist used to be religious and just dropped it. So its just as ignorant to claim someone just doesnt understand the religoun.

Second, the guys logic for becoming a firm believer is more religioun( agnostic theist) based than atheist based. A point ill get to later. God supposedly chose to have all those poor people slaughtered and chose random special snowflakes to let live. Granted I didnt read the actual article and only this topic, but Im failing to see how this guy was a straight up atheist.

Third, id like to point out something that has been glossed over. Theres a difference between an agnostic person and an atheist. Agnostics can range from agnostic theist to agnostic atheist.

An Agnostic Theist in short doesnt believe theres enough evidence to prove god doesnt exist, however doesnt firmly believe he exists.
An Agnostic Atheist in short doesnt believe theres enough evidence god actually exist, however doesnt firmly believe he doesnt exist.
A Theist no doubt believes in a god
An Atheist no doubt believes a god doesnt exist.
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Darmik posted...

Whatever helps him get through what he experienced. I'm not gonna judge him.

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