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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 5:42:07 PM
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This guy was a pilot, owned 2 planes, worked for the irs, he father was a bank robber on the fbi most wanted list, he had 42 guns, materials to make bombs, and cameras set up for surveillance.

I think there's more to this than meets the eye.

https://apnews.com/f00cf82284934a24b685d8581174235c
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Omnislasher
10/03/17 5:42:32 PM
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like what?
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
10/03/17 5:43:32 PM
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Doesn't surprise me he used to work for the IRS. Taxation is theft.
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 5:43:39 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
like what?


Like maybe he had help, or he had a motive that No one can see yet. This is a lot of preparation for being suicidal.
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mortimerjames
10/03/17 5:43:52 PM
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Real life supervillain?
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Omnislasher
10/03/17 6:03:24 PM
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maybe he had a lust for the feeling of power in killing as many people as possible, and was also suicidal
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LordRazziel
10/03/17 6:08:10 PM
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Doesn't surprise me he used to work for the IRS. Taxation is theft.

Yeah, they should just provide public services and defense for high fives
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Darmik
10/03/17 6:10:49 PM
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Help from who? The hotel would have surveillance and I'm sure the authorities would notice if anyone helped him set up stuff in his room.
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 6:15:25 PM
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Darmik posted...
Help from who? The hotel would have surveillance and I'm sure the authorities would notice if anyone helped him set up stuff in his room.


Well a woman warned the concert venue 45 minutes prior to the shooting. Also reports of gunman fleeing scene in a white Toyota. Also videos of muzzle flashes on 4th floor.

There s too much fishy information.
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RebelElite791
10/03/17 6:16:00 PM
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Darmik
10/03/17 6:17:19 PM
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snakes_righteye posted...
Well a woman warned the concert venue 45 minutes prior to the shooting.


According to one woman. Which we have never seen any footage of despite living in an age where people record everything unusual.

snakes_righteye posted...
Also reports if gunman fleeing scene in a white Toyota.


Is that unusual during a mass shooting? How did they know he was a gunman?

snakes_righteye posted...
Also videos of muzzle flashes on 4th floor.


Doing what? I haven't seen any other broken windows.

snakes_righteye posted...
There s too much fishy information.


Everything can be fishy if you don't think about it properly.
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 6:46:58 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
snakes_righteye posted...
Also reports of gunman fleeing scene in a white Toyota. Also videos of muzzle flashes on 4th floor.

source?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeL0U4Dgsew


At work can't look up a bunch of videos. This one at around the 5 minute mark you see the flashes. This is a crazy video. The shooting went on for like 10 minutes before anyone started freaking out or cops showed up

There s better videos, but they are getting hard to find.
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glitteringfairy
10/03/17 6:49:11 PM
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snakes_righteye posted...
Omnislasher posted...
like what?


Like maybe he had help, or he had a motive that No one can see yet. This is a lot of preparation for being suicidal.

I would like to just say if it's someone's final act in life I don't think you can really have "to much" preparation. Blaze of glory and all that.
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Darmik
10/03/17 6:51:44 PM
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Who needs the FBI when you have people on the internet watching videos who will bust the REAL mysteries.
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Bio1590
10/03/17 6:52:12 PM
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These are just getting more and more sophisticated, which is basically just a sign that people are getting more and more batshit insane.
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MC_BatCommander
10/03/17 6:56:34 PM
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Let's put on our tinfoil hats, conspiracy time!
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 6:59:18 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
snakes_righteye posted...
At work can't look up a bunch of videos. This one at around the 5 minute mark you see the flashes. This is a crazy video. The shooting went on for like 10 minutes before anyone started freaking out or cops showed up

There s better videos, but they are getting hard to find.

if those were muzzle flashes, then why wasn't there any busted windows found on the 4th floor?


I don't know. There were twitter reports of a dead security guard on one of the lower floors, and a gunman firing from the lobby and hauling ass in a white Toyota.

Look, I don't believe any type of conspiracy. I just think There's more to this.
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TrollSlayer11
10/03/17 7:04:04 PM
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Darmik posted...
Who needs the FBI when you have people on the internet watching videos who will bust the REAL mysteries.


Cuz the FBI has NEVER been involved in cover ups or been caught doing extremely shady shit...

Fucking clowns like you trust everything the government does don't you?
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Darmik
10/03/17 7:05:16 PM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
Darmik posted...
Who needs the FBI when you have people on the internet watching videos who will bust the REAL mysteries.


Cuz the FBI has NEVER been involved in cover ups or been caught doing extremely shady shit...

Fucking clowns like you trust everything the government does don't you?


Oh here it is!

Explain why the FBI would cover-up the worst gun massacre in America's history?
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MC_BatCommander
10/03/17 7:05:44 PM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
Darmik posted...
Who needs the FBI when you have people on the internet watching videos who will bust the REAL mysteries.


Cuz the FBI has NEVER been involved in cover ups or been caught doing extremely shady shit...

Fucking clowns like you trust everything the government does don't you?


calm down nerd
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 7:06:14 PM
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 7:10:08 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
His girlfriend is now a person of interest.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/03/breaking-las-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-is-now-person-of-interest/


There are reports of thousands of dollars being wired by the gunmen to the Philippines. I'm telling you there is more to this.
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Suchomimus
10/03/17 7:12:06 PM
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Darmik posted...
Help from who? The hotel would have surveillance and I'm sure the authorities would notice if anyone helped him set up stuff in his room.


This is what I'm wondering. Why has zero surveillance been released? Every Vegas hotel is basically a casino as well and every casino has cameras. Vegas in general is one of the most heavily surveilled cities in the US.
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Darmik
10/03/17 7:12:45 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
Darmik posted...
Help from who? The hotel would have surveillance and I'm sure the authorities would notice if anyone helped him set up stuff in his room.


This is what I'm wondering. Why has zero surveillance been released? Every Vegas hotel is basically a casino as well and every casino has cameras. Vegas in general is one of the most heavily surveilled cities in the US.


Why would they release it to the public at this point? There's no trial and no manhunt.
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Suchomimus
10/03/17 7:14:40 PM
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Darmik posted...
Suchomimus posted...
Darmik posted...
Help from who? The hotel would have surveillance and I'm sure the authorities would notice if anyone helped him set up stuff in his room.


This is what I'm wondering. Why has zero surveillance been released? Every Vegas hotel is basically a casino as well and every casino has cameras. Vegas in general is one of the most heavily surveilled cities in the US.


Why would they release it to the public at this point? There's no trial and no manhunt.


To show a potential motive. To show how he managed to slip past security and set up everything so meticulously.
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MC_BatCommander
10/03/17 7:15:21 PM
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snakes_righteye posted...
There are reports of


Early reports are often not based on any facts and just rumors and hearsay, you really shouldn't believe everything you read.

Suchomimus posted...
To show a potential motive. To show how he managed to slip past security and set up everything so meticulously.


Wanna know how to sneak guns past hotel security?

1)Put gun in bag or other luggage container
2)Walk to room

Done!
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littlebro07
10/03/17 7:15:22 PM
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I thought muzzle flash was just a thing in movies
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E32005
10/03/17 7:15:41 PM
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 7:15:59 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
Darmik posted...
Help from who? The hotel would have surveillance and I'm sure the authorities would notice if anyone helped him set up stuff in his room.


This is what I'm wondering. Why has zero surveillance been released? Every Vegas hotel is basically a casino as well and every casino has cameras. Vegas in general is one of the most heavily surveilled cities in the US.


There is surveilence video of the gunman in 2011 when he fell at the Mandalay and sued them. So I know there is video from the week he stayed there.
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 7:17:36 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
I thought muzzle flash was just a thing in movies


They make flash hiders for a reason

https://www.midwayusa.com/flash-hiders-and-muzzle-brakes/br?cid=18295
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littlebro07
10/03/17 7:20:00 PM
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snakes_righteye posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
snakes_righteye posted...
Also reports of gunman fleeing scene in a white Toyota. Also videos of muzzle flashes on 4th floor.

source?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeL0U4Dgsew


At work can't look up a bunch of videos. This one at around the 5 minute mark you see the flashes. This is a crazy video. The shooting went on for like 10 minutes before anyone started freaking out or cops showed up

There s better videos, but they are getting hard to find.


>2017
>240p
>Portrait

God damn it people T_T
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Darmik
10/03/17 7:21:47 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
To show a potential motive. To show how he managed to slip past security and set up everything so meticulously.


That's not really up to the public to decide or figure out though.

They'll probably release it eventually but I don't see why it's any of our business at this point. It's still an ongoing investigation I'm sure.

snakes_righteye posted...
There is surveilence video of the gunman in 2011 when he fell at the Mandalay and sued them. So I know there is video from the week he stayed there.


Well yeah. Because that was a court case.
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gunplagirl
10/03/17 7:23:08 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
These are just getting more and more sophisticated, which is basically just a sign that people are getting more and more batshit insane.

Insane people don't meticulously plan these things and live normal lives for the weeks or months that they're getting everything in motion.
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gunplagirl
10/03/17 7:24:22 PM
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Also, can we start calling him a terrorist now because he clearly was planning massive amounts of deaths and injuries far higher than what he accomplished?
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TrollSlayer11
10/03/17 7:24:35 PM
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Darmik posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
Darmik posted...
Who needs the FBI when you have people on the internet watching videos who will bust the REAL mysteries.


Cuz the FBI has NEVER been involved in cover ups or been caught doing extremely shady shit...

Fucking clowns like you trust everything the government does don't you?


Oh here it is!

Explain why the FBI would cover-up the worst gun massacre in America's history?


Explain why the CIA killed JFK. Explain why the US government lied about Pat Tillman's death to his family. Explain why the CIA is confirmed to have done domestic investigations along with NYPD when that is totally illegal. Explain why our government sold guns to the Mexican cartels. Explain why our soldiers protected poppy fields in Afghanistan and why the CIA smuggles drugs. Explain why the government had FBI files on people like Tupac and NWA and why Martin Luther King Jr's family won a court case finding the government responsible for his death.

Our government lies and does bad shit all the fucking time. It's so fucking astounding to me when people act incredulous at the notion.
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E32005
10/03/17 7:24:54 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Also, can we start calling him a terrorist now because he clearly was planning massive amounts of deaths and injuries far higher than what he accomplished?

no, he was white. we only call moose limbs terrorists.
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 7:25:04 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Bio1590 posted...
These are just getting more and more sophisticated, which is basically just a sign that people are getting more and more batshit insane.

Insane people don't meticulously plan these things and live normal lives for the weeks or months that they're getting everything in motion.


Uh, yes they do. We're talking about one such case in this thread. He was mentally ill.
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thronedfire2
10/03/17 7:25:56 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Bio1590 posted...
These are just getting more and more sophisticated, which is basically just a sign that people are getting more and more batshit insane.

Insane people don't meticulously plan these things and live normal lives for the weeks or months that they're getting everything in motion.


Uh, what? Have you read about any of the other mass shooters in the US?
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Etherealfare
10/03/17 7:26:44 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Bio1590 posted...
These are just getting more and more sophisticated, which is basically just a sign that people are getting more and more batshit insane.

Insane people don't meticulously plan these things and live normal lives for the weeks or months that they're getting everything in motion.

Yes, that's exactly what insane people do.

The 9/11 hijackers lived in airports and took cross-country flights just to detail the times stewardess closed the First Class blinds, what time to rush, etc.

meticulous planning to do something stupid that no normal person would do or want to do is pretty much eexactly what insane people do.
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 7:26:50 PM
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The surveillance video from 2011.

Check out @TrumpTrain45Pacs Tweet: https://twitter.com/TrumpTrain45Pac/status/915072915275603970?s=09
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pegusus123456
10/03/17 7:27:21 PM
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E32005 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Also, can we start calling him a terrorist now because he clearly was planning massive amounts of deaths and injuries far higher than what he accomplished?

no, he was white. we only call moose limbs terrorists.

You aren't a terrorist just because you killed a bunch of people
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Darmik
10/03/17 7:28:11 PM
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TrollSlayer11 posted...
Darmik posted...
TrollSlayer11 posted...
Darmik posted...
Who needs the FBI when you have people on the internet watching videos who will bust the REAL mysteries.


Cuz the FBI has NEVER been involved in cover ups or been caught doing extremely shady shit...

Fucking clowns like you trust everything the government does don't you?


Oh here it is!

Explain why the FBI would cover-up the worst gun massacre in America's history?


Explain why the CIA killed JFK. Explain why the US government lied about Pat Tillman's death to his family. Explain why the CIA is confirmed to have done domestic investigations along with NYPD when that is totally illegal. Explain why our government sold guns to the Mexican cartels. Explain why our soldiers protected poppy fields in Afghanistan and why the CIA smuggles drugs. Explain why the government had FBI files on people like Tupac and NWA and why Martin Luther King Jr's family won a court case finding the government responsible for his death.

Our government lies and does bad shit all the fucking time. It's so fucking astounding to me when people act incredulous at the notion.


I'm not acting incredulous at that notion.

I'm acting incredulous that the FBI would cover up this specific mass shooting.
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 7:28:37 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Also, can we start calling him a terrorist now because he clearly was planning massive amounts of deaths and injuries far higher than what he accomplished?


If no political motive is found, then I'm afraid authorities will attribute his actions to mental illness. I don't believe that any political motive will ever be found. It's obvious he was mentally ill.
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snakes_righteye
10/03/17 7:29:02 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
E32005 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Also, can we start calling him a terrorist now because he clearly was planning massive amounts of deaths and injuries far higher than what he accomplished?

no, he was white. we only call moose limbs terrorists.

You aren't a terrorist just because you killed a bunch of people


He also had materials to make explosives in his car. It seems he was planning more than what he did.
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Ammonitida
10/03/17 7:30:28 PM
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snakes_righteye posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
E32005 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Also, can we start calling him a terrorist now because he clearly was planning massive amounts of deaths and injuries far higher than what he accomplished?

no, he was white. we only call moose limbs terrorists.

You aren't a terrorist just because you killed a bunch of people


He also had materials to make explosives in his car. It seems he was planning more than what he did.


What part about "You aren't a terrorist just because you killed a bunch of people" don't you understand?
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gunplagirl
10/03/17 7:30:31 PM
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Miss me with that neurotypical ableism. People with mental disorders are more likely to be the victims of violence than instigators by magnitudes.

This is cold, cunning and evil. They consciously knew what would happen and planned it all out.

You know what other people with mental health issues tend to do with guns? Just get one and join the large number who have successfully committed suicide.
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