Current Events > athiest vs. christian ark photography : two vastly different perspectives

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https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2017/09/30/atheist-vs-christian-photography/

empty parking lot
https://assets.answersingenesis.org/img/blogs/ken-ham/2017/10/atheist-photography-1.jpg

full parking lot
https://assets.answersingenesis.org/img/blogs/ken-ham/2017/10/christian-photography-9.jpg

store filled with visitors
https://assets.answersingenesis.org/img/blogs/ken-ham/2017/10/christian-photography-13.jpg

Admission: Okay, I admit, AiG staff took all the above photos on the same daytoday, Saturday September 30, at the Arkand all photos were taken within a 2-hour window during the middle of the day. It's all in where and when you point the camera! And it's a reminder that atheist religious zealots do all they can to try to malign these Christian attractions, as they fight all they can against Someone they don't believe even existsyes, they're actually fighting the God of Creation who they know in their heart does exist! They confirm God's Word in Romans 1 by their illogical opposition.

newspaper reporting:
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/florence/2017/09/29/florence-hotel-boom-serves-creationist-tourism-and-cvg-flights/712007001/

FLORENCE Low-cost airlines, religious creationist tourism, and Amazon's growth in Boone County have created a thriving market here for new hotels.

Recent openings of Home2 Suites by Hilton and Comfort Suites added 193 hotel rooms to the city of Florence.

Hotel operators are scouting sites for five new hotels around Boone County's biggest city, said Josh Hunt, Florence business and community development director. Previously, the last hotel to open in Florence was in 2009.

Florence has 29 hotels and 2,589 rooms counting the two newest hotels, according to Northern Kentucky Convention and Visitors Bureau stats.

"Hotels are hot right now," Hunt said.

Creationist parks still a potent draw for visitors and controversy
Religious tourists visiting the Creation Museum in Boone County and Ark Encounter in neighboring Grant County are a contributing factor for hotels opening in Florence, he said.

lol
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He's got a point, if they don't believe God exists why do they even care about it?
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SageHarpuia posted...

He's got a point, if they don't believe God exists why do they even care about it?

I think their argument is it is a giant waste of money
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I have noticed that atheists try to make Noah's Ark look as ridiculous as possible where as creationists depict it as more realistic and practical

Atheist:
Creationist:

food for thought.
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Are they building the ark by hand?
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darkphoenix181 posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

He's got a point, if they don't believe God exists why do they even care about it?

I think their argument is it is a giant waste of money

For whom? It's a successful market that brings money into local economies, and people gladly spend money on it because they believe in it, what's the problem?
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How the hell did Noah get the funds for his ark?
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SageHarpuia posted...

He's got a point, if they don't believe God exists why do they even care about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnbXlkNavwo
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PoopPotato posted...

How the hell did Noah get the funds for his ark?

He built it out of driftwood
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

I have noticed that atheists try to make Noah's Ark look as ridiculous as possible where as creationists depict it as more realistic and practical

Atheist:
Creationist:

food for thought.

Are you sure the top was made by an atheist and not for some Christian children's book? Because that is definitely what a Chrstian child envisions while growing up.

Also, the very idea is impractical and impossible.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

creationists depict it as more realistic and practical

there is absolutely nothing realistic or practical about a single boat that's meant to house 2 of every single animal on the earth, predators and prey alike, for 40 days and nights, from all corners of the world

actually 7 of every clean animal

2 of the unclean animals
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here are featherless raptors inside the ark

https://media.gq.com/photos/579fa02ebf91805850f35e2d/master/w_800/noahs-ark-11.jpg
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DuranOfForcena posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

creationists depict it as more realistic and practical

there is absolutely nothing realistic or practical about a single boat that's meant to house 2 of every single animal on the earth, predators and prey alike, for 40 days and nights, from all corners of the world

Just of every species, and fish were obviously excluded. When you take that into consideration it becomes a little more probable.
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How can fish be excluded when the various species depend on certain levels of salinity that a shit ton of rain would throw out of whack.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

I have noticed that atheists try to make Noah's Ark look as ridiculous as possible where as creationists depict it as more realistic and practical

Atheist:
Creationist:

food for thought.

Literally no practical design for that story. Any religious person with any sense thinks of the story as an allegory, not literally since that isn't remotely possible.
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Xelltrix posted...

Literally no practical design for that story. Any reigious person with any sense thinks of the story as an allegory, not literally since that isn't remotely possible.

you were saying?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d2/3b/6f/d23b6f465bdb5c1bd09653e9f76bd9e7.png
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Xelltrix posted...

Literally no practical design for that story. Any reigious person with any sense thinks of the story as an allegory, not literally since that isn't remotely possible.

you were saying?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d2/3b/6f/d23b6f465bdb5c1bd09653e9f76bd9e7.png

Xelltrix posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

I have noticed that atheists try to make Noah's Ark look as ridiculous as possible where as creationists depict it as more realistic and practical

Atheist:
Creationist:

food for thought.

Literally no practical design for that story. Any reigious person with any sense thinks of the story as an allegory, not literally since that isn't remotely possible.

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I wonder if the Ark museum has a section on all the other great flood myths that predated Christianity.
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Xelltrix posted...

Any reigious person with any sense thinks of the story as an allegory, not literally since that isn't remotely possible.

21st century spin.

This "it's all just allegories and morals." is something that only came from centuries of atheists or non-believers pushing.

There were times where reading the bible in English alone would get you killed, let alone denying the events occured.
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Southernfatman posted...

I wonder if the Ark museum has a section on all the other great flood myths that predated Christianity.

probably in the what heretics thought section

btw Judaism predated christianity

the ark is from that
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What happened to the frogs and insects that depend on laying their eggs in the water but need to live on land when grown?

Southernfatman posted...

I wonder if the Ark museum has a section on all the other great flood myths that predated Christianity.

Flood myths from around the world actually support the idea that a biblical flood happened.
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if the ark was real it would likely be a huge wooden box with no fancy ornamentation or way to steer
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Xelltrix posted...

Any reigious person with any sense thinks of the story as an allegory, not literally since that isn't remotely possible.

21st century spin.

This "it's all just allegories and morals." is something that only came from centuries of atheists or non-believers pushing.

There were times where reading the bible in English alone would get you killed, let alone denying the events occured.

Well, yeah, I meant modern. It would be crazy to believe that stuff in the modern world with the knowledge we have now. Much more sensible to adjust and make the bible compatible with verifiable knowledge we do have.
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We used to think the platypus was a hoax. Now we know for sure it exists.

Anything can happen.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

Now we know for sure it exists.

are you so sure?
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HylianFox posted...

if the ark was real it would likely be a huge wooden box with no fancy ornamentation or way to steer

Actually, approximately 2,000 years elapsed between creation and the flood, so there's no telling how advanced civilization was back then.
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SageHarpuia posted...

He's got a point, if they don't believe God exists why do they even care about it?

Didn't they use a fuck ton of tax dollars to fund that failing turd under the false illusion that it would be an attraction and cause local business to boom?
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SageHarpuia posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

creationists depict it as more realistic and practical

there is absolutely nothing realistic or practical about a single boat that's meant to house 2 of every single animal on the earth, predators and prey alike, for 40 days and nights, from all corners of the world

Just of every species, and fish were obviously excluded. When you take that into consideration it becomes a little more probable.

What about the issue of fresh and salt water fish? What about the plants?
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Relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVaVbn7eIFs
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you're telling me Noah went to fucking Mexico and caught 2 gila monsters for his big dumb boat and there's no mention of biblical tacos?
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DarkDragon400 posted...

What about the issue of fresh and salt water fish?

We don't know what the salinity of the water was like during the flood, but what we do know is that the difference between freshwater and saltwater fish isn't actually a major one. It could easily have been fresh water, and when it submerged salt deposits the fish that ended up in the saltwater adapted.

What about the plants?

http://darwin-online.org.uk/converted/published/1855_effect_F1687.html

Charles Darwin himself did experiments on the effects of saltwater on seed germination, you can read the results yourself.
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lilORANG posted...

you're telling me Noah went to fucking Mexico and caught 2 gila monsters for his big dumb boat and there's no mention of biblical tacos?

We don't know what the geography was like back then, even scientists theorize that all the earth's landmasses once formed a supercontinent.
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SageHarpuia posted...

lilORANG posted...

you're telling me Noah went to fucking Mexico and caught 2 gila monsters for his big dumb boat and there's no mention of biblical tacos?

We don't know what the geography was like back then, even scientists theorize that all the earth's landmasses once formed a supercontinent.

That was a lot longer ago than Christian creationists even think the world is.

xBloodBrotherx posted...

Relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVaVbn7eIFs

It's been a minute since I've watched a thunderf00t video, watching it now and it's good so far.
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SageHarpuia posted...

lilORANG posted...

you're telling me Noah went to fucking Mexico and caught 2 gila monsters for his big dumb boat and there's no mention of biblical tacos?

We don't know what the geography was like back then, even scientists theorize that all the earth's landmasses once formed a supercontinent.

Well we know it wasnt a supercontinent 4000 years ago. Dang, would life even be possible if the continents were moving so much that we could go from supercontinent to modern earth in only 4000 years? That's a lot of earthquakes, good luck building any sort of structure lol.
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That was a lot longer ago than Christian creationists even think the world is.

Allegedly. Genesis gives an account of language being confounded, perhaps the earth was also divided then as well.
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I think a lot of people that claim to be ''athiest'' just claim to be because they dont agree with religion in general.

I myself, was brought up catholic, learned of the spread of Christianity freshman year in highschool, after having an entire quarter dedicated to space, and the universe and the end of 8th grade year, and the missions, and crusades made me really question what the hell was going on with religions foundations.

The more and more i learned, the more i felt religion was this well oiled, man made machine, that had caused so much pain and suffering for thousands of years, and still does to some degree, in certain parts of the world.

I refused to dedicate myself to any religion, or say i was Christian, or Catholic--etc...so i just went with the term athiest, and alluded to the fact that i wouldnt deny the possibility of a greater mind, or the fact that this all was created by some higher order unknown to us currently.

I like sciences objective approach to creation, but even science has a hard time acknowledging the fact that there IS a higher order that basically seeds the universe at a quantum level, allowing reality to be what it is due to that specific order, or intelligent creative capability.

I think its distasteful for Christians to mock athiests/agnostics just as well as vice versa. Going off their religion, that is not what God would ''want'' them to do to those who seem ''lost''.
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lilORANG posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

lilORANG posted...

you're telling me Noah went to fucking Mexico and caught 2 gila monsters for his big dumb boat and there's no mention of biblical tacos?

We don't know what the geography was like back then, even scientists theorize that all the earth's landmasses once formed a supercontinent.

Well we know it wasnt a supercontinent 4000 years ago. Dang, would life even be possible if the continents were moving so much that we could go from supercontinent to modern earth in only 4000 years? That's a lot of earthquakes, good luck building any sort of structure lol.

Under the premise that an all-powerful God was dealing with a rebellious people it wouldn't have required a gradual shift, just one sudden shift.
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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...

I refused to dedicate myself to any religion, or say i was Christian, or Catholic--etc...so i just went with the term athiest, and alluded to the fact that i wouldnt deny the possibility of a greater mind, or the fact that this all was created by some higher order unknown to us currently.

I like sciences objective approach to creation, but even science has a hard time acknowledging the fact that there IS a higher order that basically seeds the universe at a quantum level, allowing reality to be what it is due to that specific order, or intelligent creative capability.

that's just you misusing the word atheist tho. You sound like you're more of a deist. it's a good middle ground for peeps who know organized religion is bs but don't want to admit that life on earth is all we have and then it's an infinity of nothing and meaninglessness.
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SageHarpuia posted...

lilORANG posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

lilORANG posted...

you're telling me Noah went to fucking Mexico and caught 2 gila monsters for his big dumb boat and there's no mention of biblical tacos?

We don't know what the geography was like back then, even scientists theorize that all the earth's landmasses once formed a supercontinent.

Well we know it wasnt a supercontinent 4000 years ago. Dang, would life even be possible if the continents were moving so much that we could go from supercontinent to modern earth in only 4000 years? That's a lot of earthquakes, good luck building any sort of structure lol.

Under the premise that an all-powerful God was dealing with a rebellious people it wouldn't have required a gradual shift, just one sudden shift.

Well why wasn't that mentioned in the OT? That seems like a pretty impressive bit of divine intervention that folks back then would love to write about
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I think its distasteful for Christians to mock athiests/agnostics just as well as vice versa. Going off their religion, that is not what God would ''want'' them to do to those who seem ''lost''.

It is distasteful, and nowhere in scripture is it condoned or encouraged. The people who do it are either insincere or just misguided.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

Atheist:

The top reverse image search from this comes from a Jewish synagogue.
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SageHarpuia posted...

I think its distasteful for Christians to mock athiests/agnostics just as well as vice versa. Going off their religion, that is not what God would ''want'' them to do to those who seem ''lost''.

It is distasteful, and nowhere in scripture is it condoned or encouraged. The people who do it are either insincere or just misguided.

You're right, it's not condoned or encouraged to mock people who aren't Christian, just to murder them.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+17%3A2-5
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lilORANG posted...

Well why wasn't that mentioned in the OT? That seems like a pretty impressive bit of divine intervention that folks back then would love to write about

Moses wrote Genesis long after the flood and the Patriarchs were gone. He only had what his ancestors had recorded and what God gave him. During the time this would have hypothetically happened humans were already turning back to idolatry and would have came up with other explanations, which would have become lost just like their religions. I don't claim it as a fact, it's just a loose hypothesis.
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Gamer99z posted...

You're right, it's not condoned or encouraged to mock people who aren't Christian, just to murder them.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+17%3A2-5

The keyword here is Christian.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3%3A17-18&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+3%3A7-8&version=KJV

The Law of Moses was used to show that man couldn't save himself and thus a greater sacrifice was required. Christ fulfilled that sacrifice and established a new covenant.
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SageHarpuia posted...

Gamer99z posted...

You're right, it's not condoned or encouraged to mock people who aren't Christian, just to murder them.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+17%3A2-5

The keyword here is Christian.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3%3A17-18&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+3%3A7-8&version=KJV

The Law of Moses was used to show that man couldn't save himself and thus a greater sacrifice was required. Christ fulfilled that sacrifice and established a new covenant.

The Bible? Contradicting itself and requiring parts to be ignored arbitrarily? Color me shocked.
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SageHarpuia posted...

lilORANG posted...

Well why wasn't that mentioned in the OT? That seems like a pretty impressive bit of divine intervention that folks back then would love to write about

Moses wrote Genesis long after the flood and the Patriarchs were gone. He only had what his ancestors had recorded and what God gave him. During the time this would have hypothetically happened humans were already turning back to idolatry and would have came up with other explanations, which would have become lost just like their religions. I don't claim it as a fact, it's just a loose hypothesis.

Nice, so after the flood and everyone but Noah and fam were dead God split the earth in two and Noah's hispanic descendants crossed the newly formed Atlantic Ocean and started their own civilization over in Mexico...but somehow developed a completely different religion from the one they had grown up knowing. Yeah, I like it! I wish that Russel Crowe movie had ended this way instead.
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By this logic history in general contradicts itself.
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