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Schwarber 09/28/17 7:08:39 PM #1:	http://wgntv.com/2017/09/28/rauner-controversial-abortion-bill/ CHICAGO -- Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner signed legislation Thursday allowing state health insurance and Medicaid coverage for abortions, ending months of speculation after the Republican reversed his stance on the issue last spring. The General Assembly controlled by Democrats approved the measure in May but delayed sending it to Rauner until Monday, in part because he has changed his mind about support of the plan. As a candidate in 2014, Rauner said he would support expanding coverage for abortions. But last April he said he opposed the idea and said the state should focus on improving the economy. The proposal would allow abortions funded by state employee health insurance and Medicaid. Democrats argue all women should have the same access to abortion services. Republicans argued taxpayers should not be forced to fund a morally objectionable procedure, particularly during a state budget crisis. The Department of Healthcare and Family Services estimates the annual taxpayer cost of abortions under the measure would be $1.8 million. The decision has been politically difficult for Rauner, who's considered one of the most vulnerable governors nationwide in his 2018 bid for a second term. The former venture capitalist first won elected office in 2014, in part by getting support from independent voters in the suburbs, especially women, with his pledge to have "no social agenda." He often campaigned with his wife, Diana Rauner, who calls herself a "lifelong Democrat." Rejecting the measure would turn off those voters while signing it would risk enraging social conservatives and could mean a primary challenger for him. The law takes effect immediately. The measure also removes language in Illinois law that states a desire to criminalize abortion if a 1973 U.S. Supreme Court ruling legalizing the procedure is overturned. Democrats initially sold the bill as a means of keeping abortion legal if Roe v. Wade were dumped. President Donald Trump, who took office in January, has promised to nominate Supreme Court justices bent on revisiting Roe. Great news. --- http://i.imgur.com/iQXgYOx.gif http://i.imgur.com/l3frhSF.gif http://i.imgur.com/HM1Hjby.gif https://i.imgur.com/bvsFH0H.jpg - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:887471032] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>http://wgntv.com/2017/09/28/rauner-controversial-abortion-bill/ CHICAGO -- Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner signed legislation Thursday allowing state health insurance and Medicaid coverage for abortions, ending months of speculation after the Republican reversed his stance on the issue last spring. The General Assembly controlled by Democrats approved the measure in May but delayed sending it to Rauner until Monday, in part because he has changed his mind about support of the plan. As a candidate in 2014, Rauner said he would support expanding coverage for abortions. But last April he said he opposed the idea and said the state should focus on improving the economy. The proposal would allow abortions funded by state employee health insurance and Medicaid. Democrats argue all women should have the same access to abortion services. Republicans argued taxpayers should not be forced to fund a morally objectionable procedure, particularly during a state budget crisis. The Department of Healthcare and Family Services estimates the annual taxpayer cost of abortions under the measure would be $1.8 million. The decision has been politically difficult for Rauner, who's considered one of the most vulnerable governors nationwide in his 2018 bid for a second term. The former venture capitalist first won elected office in 2014, in part by getting support from independent voters in the suburbs, especially women, with his pledge to have "no social agenda." He often campaigned with his wife, Diana Rauner, who calls herself a "lifelong Democrat." Rejecting the measure would turn off those voters while signing it would risk enraging social conservatives and could mean a primary challenger for him. The law takes effect immediately. The measure also removes language in Illinois law that states a desire to criminalize abortion if a 1973 U.S. Supreme Court ruling legalizing the procedure is overturned. Democrats initially sold the bill as a means of keeping abortion legal if Roe v. Wade were dumped. President Donald Trump, who took office in January, has promised to nominate Supreme Court justices bent on revisiting Roe. Great news.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 09/28/17 7:09:40 PM #2:	Good. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:887471088] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 09/28/17 7:15:47 PM #3:	Hope he gets primaried. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:887471367] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Hope he gets primaried.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/28/17 7:19:16 PM #4:	_Rinku_ posted... Good. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:887471544] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>Good.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoliske 09/28/17 7:26:09 PM #5:	Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices <cite>smoliske posted [p:887471899] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 09/28/17 7:27:10 PM #6:	Solar_Crimson posted... _Rinku_ posted... Good. <cite>Axiom posted [p:887471945] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>Good.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ACHEEKSMALLOY 09/28/17 7:31:08 PM #7:	so not only do I have to pay for rahm's illegal immigrant farm, now i gotta pay for women to have their babies scraped out with a coat hanger cuz they cant control their urges? Fuck this state --- Gamertag: ALMIGHTY CHEEKS The CUBS are the 2016 WORLD CHAMPIONS!!! <cite>ACHEEKSMALLOY posted [p:887472161] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>so not only do I have to pay for rahm's illegal immigrant farm, now i gotta pay for women to have their babies scraped out with a coat hanger cuz they cant control their urges? Fuck this state</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/28/17 7:32:02 PM #8:	Finally he does something good --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:887472215] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Finally he does something good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 09/28/17 8:07:34 PM #9:	Good --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:887474066] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:08:29 PM #10:	smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887474099] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 09/28/17 8:09:34 PM #11:	ThePrinceFish posted... Hope he gets primaried. Doesn't matter. The GOP nominee is losing in the general election regardless. The only reason why Rauner won was because he ran as non-specific of a campaign as possible and was running against a ridiculously unpopular incumbent. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:887474152] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Hope he gets primaried.</quote> Doesn't matter. The GOP nominee is losing in the general election regardless. The only reason why Rauner won was because he ran as non-specific of a campaign as possible and was running against a ridiculously unpopular incumbent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:11:24 PM #13:	shockthemonkey posted... Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this. abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887474248] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this.</quote> abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:13:58 PM #15:	shockthemonkey posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... shockthemonkey posted... Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this. abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions It's fine that you don't know what health care means but you should really just listen instead of talking if that's the case. you're the one who doesn't know what health care means, buddy <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887474372] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this.</quote> abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions</quote> It's fine that you don't know what health care means but you should really just listen instead of talking if that's the case.</quote> you're the one who doesn't know what health care means, buddy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:15:18 PM #17:	your response was literally "No u" the first time around, monkey <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887474445] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>your response was literally "No u" the first time around, monkey</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 09/28/17 8:16:22 PM #18:	FLUFFYGERM posted... shockthemonkey posted... Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this. abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions https://www.bustle.com/articles/190684-i-had-a-late-term-abortion-and-donald-trump-has-absolutely-no-idea-what-that-means <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:887474511] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this.</quote> abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions</quote> https://www.bustle.com/articles/190684-i-had-a-late-term-abortion-and-donald-trump-has-absolutely-no-idea-what-that-means</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daftpunk_mk5 09/28/17 8:17:48 PM #20:	Fucking garbage --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:887474576] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Fucking garbage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 09/28/17 8:18:15 PM #21:	That's fucking sick that taxpayer money is going to cover such a disgusting thing. What the fuck was he thinking? Abortions are not a right that should be paid for through taxpayer's money. What happened to "stay out of our vaginas!" --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0 <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:887474608] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>That's fucking sick that taxpayer money is going to cover such a disgusting thing. What the fuck was he thinking? Abortions are not a right that should be paid for through taxpayer's money. What happened to "stay out of our vaginas!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:18:21 PM #22:	CruelBuffalo posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... shockthemonkey posted... Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this. abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions https://www.bustle.com/articles/190684-i-had-a-late-term-abortion-and-donald-trump-has-absolutely-no-idea-what-that-means can you summarize that op-ed so i don't have to give bustle any clicks <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887474612] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this.</quote> abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions</quote> https://www.bustle.com/articles/190684-i-had-a-late-term-abortion-and-donald-trump-has-absolutely-no-idea-what-that-means</quote> can you summarize that op-ed so i don't have to give bustle any clicks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:18:38 PM #23:	shockthemonkey posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... your response was literally "No u" the first time around, monkey No, my response was "you're clearly too stupid to talk about this so don't." Keep proving me right. you're the stupid one, buddy <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887474627] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>your response was literally "No u" the first time around, monkey</quote> No, my response was "you're clearly too stupid to talk about this so don't." Keep proving me right.</quote> you're the stupid one, buddy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/28/17 8:18:43 PM #24:	Not quite sure how I feel about that one. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:887474632] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Not quite sure how I feel about that one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/28/17 8:18:53 PM #25:	smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices This is why we need abortion. You think it will cheaper to the taxpayer to force poor and/or unfit parents to raise children? All you'll end up with is more poor people and orphans. And that is more expensive than an abortion. Do we care about practicality, or punishing people for having sex to our own detriment? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:887474639] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote> This is why we need abortion. You think it will cheaper to the taxpayer to force poor and/or unfit parents to raise children? All you'll end up with is more poor people and orphans. And that is more expensive than an abortion. Do we care about practicality, or punishing people for having sex to our own detriment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/28/17 8:20:28 PM #26:	FLUFFYGERM posted... shockthemonkey posted... Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this. abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions Idk but you like defending cops when they make a bad decision so you really shouldn't have a problem with this. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:887474719] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this.</quote> abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions</quote> Idk but you like defending cops when they make a bad decision so you really shouldn't have a problem with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 09/28/17 8:20:36 PM #27:	FLUFFYGERM posted... CruelBuffalo posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... shockthemonkey posted... Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this. abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions https://www.bustle.com/articles/190684-i-had-a-late-term-abortion-and-donald-trump-has-absolutely-no-idea-what-that-means can you summarize that op-ed so i don't have to give bustle any clicks She had an abortion because her fetus had a fatal birth defect and it wouldn't have lived long (if that) after birth <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:887474727] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this.</quote> abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions</quote> https://www.bustle.com/articles/190684-i-had-a-late-term-abortion-and-donald-trump-has-absolutely-no-idea-what-that-means</quote> can you summarize that op-ed so i don't have to give bustle any clicks</quote> She had an abortion because her fetus had a fatal birth defect and it wouldn't have lived long (if that) after birth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 09/28/17 8:21:28 PM #29:	hockeybub89 posted... smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices This is why we need abortion. You think it will cheaper to the taxpayer to force poor and/or unfit parents to raise children? All you'll end up with is more poor people and orphans. And that is more expensive than an abortion. Do we care about practicality, or punishing people for having sex to our own detriment? Aren't there other measures that could be taken to broaden access to abortion that doesn't involve allowing its use through tax payer funds? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:887474781] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote> Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote> This is why we need abortion. You think it will cheaper to the taxpayer to force poor and/or unfit parents to raise children? All you'll end up with is more poor people and orphans. And that is more expensive than an abortion. Do we care about practicality, or punishing people for having sex to our own detriment?</quote> Aren't there other measures that could be taken to broaden access to abortion that doesn't involve allowing its use through tax payer funds?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:21:59 PM #30:	hockeybub89 posted... smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices This is why we need abortion. You think it will cheaper to the taxpayer to force poor and/or unfit parents to raise children? All you'll end up with is more poor people and orphans. And that is more expensive than an abortion. Do we care about practicality, or punishing people for having sex to our own detriment? that's the only silver lining here. but really we should be educating people to buy contraceptives because that's even cheaper than forcing others to pay. CruelBuffalo posted... She had an abortion because her fetus had a fatal birth defect and it wouldn't have lived long (if that) after birth that's understandable and i don't think that changes the rule, being that most abortions won't be that way. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887474802] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote> This is why we need abortion. You think it will cheaper to the taxpayer to force poor and/or unfit parents to raise children? All you'll end up with is more poor people and orphans. And that is more expensive than an abortion. Do we care about practicality, or punishing people for having sex to our own detriment?</quote> that's the only silver lining here. but really we should be educating people to buy contraceptives because that's even cheaper than forcing others to pay. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>She had an abortion because her fetus had a fatal birth defect and it wouldn't have lived long (if that) after birth</quote> that's understandable and i don't think that changes the rule, being that most abortions won't be that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:22:12 PM #31:	Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... shockthemonkey posted... Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this. abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions Idk but you like defending cops when they make a bad decision so you really shouldn't have a problem with this. when did i do that <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887474809] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this.</quote> abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions</quote> Idk but you like defending cops when they make a bad decision so you really shouldn't have a problem with this.</quote> when did i do that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/28/17 8:22:59 PM #32:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Zeeak4444 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... shockthemonkey posted... Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this. abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions Idk but you like defending cops when they make a bad decision so you really shouldn't have a problem with this. when did i do that You know what I totally thought you were Fender for a second. That's my bad, my apologies. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:887474843] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Health care being paid for by health insurance shouldn't be controversial. Fuck everyone who cries about this.</quote> abortions aren't health care any more than cumming in a condom is health care we have contraceptives for a reason. why should people pay for someone else's bad decisions</quote> Idk but you like defending cops when they make a bad decision so you really shouldn't have a problem with this.</quote> when did i do that</quote> You know what I totally thought you were Fender for a second. That's my bad, my apologies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 09/28/17 8:23:04 PM #33:	Except you said its not health care. I'm sure I'm just a google click away from seeing that an abortion was used to save the life of the mother <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:887474850] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Except you said its not health care. I'm sure I'm just a google click away from seeing that an abortion was used to save the life of the mother</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/28/17 8:24:24 PM #34:	Abortion support has always been one of the most bizarre political issues depending on how you chose to look at the situation. The founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger -- who was literally honored alongside MLK -- wanted to see abortions expanded because she was a strong proponent of eugenics. She thought that increasing the number of these clinics in poor urban areas would lead to many black babies being aborted, which would improve the "breeding stock" of the U.S. population. It's amazing that the left now hails her as a hero. So, knowing what we all know about the violence in Chicago, I can't exactly view this as a progressive endorsement coming from a Republican governor. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:887474933] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>Abortion support has always been one of the most bizarre political issues depending on how you chose to look at the situation. The founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger -- who was literally honored alongside MLK -- wanted to see abortions expanded because she was a strong proponent of eugenics. She thought that increasing the number of these clinics in poor urban areas would lead to many black babies being aborted, which would improve the "breeding stock" of the U.S. population. It's amazing that the left now hails her as a hero. So, knowing what we all know about the violence in Chicago, I can't exactly view this as a progressive endorsement coming from a Republican governor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Queen_of_Lazy89 09/28/17 8:24:39 PM #35:	K181 posted... ThePrinceFish posted... Hope he gets primaried. Doesn't matter. The GOP nominee is losing in the general election regardless. The only reason why Rauner won was because he ran as non-specific of a campaign as possible and was running against a ridiculously unpopular incumbent. 100% this. Rauner is fucked and should he be primaried the GOP nominee would be fucked in the general. Quinn was super unpopular and Rauner really shit the bed as Gov and damaged the hell out of the Illinois GOP. So expect Kennedy or Pritzker to be the new Governor, hopefully Kennedy since Pritzker reminds me too much of a Democrat Donald Trump. --- "Going to the Grand Canyon" is how Limbaugh's doctor refers to giving Limbaugh a colonoscopy-Kavatar <cite>Queen_of_Lazy89 posted [p:887474957] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Hope he gets primaried.</quote> Doesn't matter. The GOP nominee is losing in the general election regardless. The only reason why Rauner won was because he ran as non-specific of a campaign as possible and was running against a ridiculously unpopular incumbent.</quote> 100% this. Rauner is fucked and should he be primaried the GOP nominee would be fucked in the general. Quinn was super unpopular and Rauner really shit the bed as Gov and damaged the hell out of the Illinois GOP. So expect Kennedy or Pritzker to be the new Governor, hopefully Kennedy since Pritzker reminds me too much of a Democrat Donald Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomSwell 09/28/17 8:26:37 PM #36:	smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices ITP rape victims can't get pregnant and child birth can't kill sickly/petite mothers. --- http://www.backloggery.com/doomswell <cite>DoomSwell posted [p:887475075] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote> ITP rape victims can't get pregnant and child birth can't kill sickly/petite mothers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 09/28/17 8:29:52 PM #37:	The most disgusting thing about this is random men trying to prevent what women do with their bodies. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:887475249] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>The most disgusting thing about this is random men trying to prevent what women do with their bodies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 09/28/17 8:32:55 PM #39:	shockthemonkey posted... The Admiral posted... Abortion support has always been one of the most bizarre political issues depending on how you chose to look at the situation. The founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger -- who was literally honored alongside MLK -- wanted to see abortions expanded because she was a strong proponent of eugenics. She thought that increasing the number of these clinics in poor urban areas would lead to many black babies being aborted, which would improve the "breeding stock" of the U.S. population. It's amazing that the left now hails her as a hero. So, knowing what we all know about the violence in Chicago, I can't exactly view this as a progressive endorsement coming from a Republican governor. Sanger was a sick fuck and I can't believe people still honor her, it's fucking gross and pathetic; but it's not like she came up with the idea of abortions. Trying to turn this into some weird pro-eugenics bill is strange. Admiral will go through crazy mental gymnastics to try and stick it to the left <cite>Axiom posted [p:887475414] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion support has always been one of the most bizarre political issues depending on how you chose to look at the situation. The founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger -- who was literally honored alongside MLK -- wanted to see abortions expanded because she was a strong proponent of eugenics. She thought that increasing the number of these clinics in poor urban areas would lead to many black babies being aborted, which would improve the "breeding stock" of the U.S. population. It's amazing that the left now hails her as a hero. So, knowing what we all know about the violence in Chicago, I can't exactly view this as a progressive endorsement coming from a Republican governor.</quote> Sanger was a sick fuck and I can't believe people still honor her, it's fucking gross and pathetic; but it's not like she came up with the idea of abortions. Trying to turn this into some weird pro-eugenics bill is strange.</quote> Admiral will go through crazy mental gymnastics to try and stick it to the left</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:35:41 PM #40:	CruelBuffalo posted... Except you said its not health care. I'm sure I'm just a google click away from seeing that an abortion was used to save the life of the mother don't be stupid, obviously any reasonable person can acknowledge that there are situations when it's literally a matter of the mother's health <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887475573] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Except you said its not health care. I'm sure I'm just a google click away from seeing that an abortion was used to save the life of the mother</quote> don't be stupid, obviously any reasonable person can acknowledge that there are situations when it's literally a matter of the mother's health</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 09/28/17 8:39:58 PM #41:	FLUFFYGERM posted... smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:887475827] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote></quote> Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 8:53:39 PM #42:	CruelBuffalo posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered youre not a very critical thinker if you really cant understand the meaning of the statement <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887476631] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote></quote> Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered</quote> youre not a very critical thinker if you really cant understand the meaning of the statement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoliske 09/28/17 9:42:57 PM #43:	CruelBuffalo posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered Countered by what? Abortion is literally a last ditch effort in the contraceptive process Why can't people just make smarter choices? And if they can't make smarter choices they should just keep their legs closed <cite>smoliske posted [p:887479751] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote></quote> Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered</quote> Countered by what? Abortion is literally a last ditch effort in the contraceptive process Why can't people just make smarter choices? And if they can't make smarter choices they should just keep their legs closed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 09/28/17 9:47:11 PM #44:	smoliske posted... CruelBuffalo posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered Countered by what? Abortion is literally a last ditch effort in the contraceptive process Why can't people just make smarter choices? And if they can't make smarter choices they just just keep their legs closed Or they could pay for their own abortions and if they can't then they get sent a bill that fucks up their credit score if it's ignored :] Win win --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0 <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:887480004] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote></quote> Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered</quote> Countered by what? Abortion is literally a last ditch effort in the contraceptive process Why can't people just make smarter choices? And if they can't make smarter choices they just just keep their legs closed</quote> Or they could pay for their own abortions and if they can't then they get sent a bill that fucks up their credit score if it's ignored :] Win win</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 09/28/17 10:19:23 PM #45:	FLUFFYGERM posted... CruelBuffalo posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered youre not a very critical thinker if you really cant understand the meaning of the statement smoliske posted... Why can't people just make smarter choices? And if they can't make smarter choices they should just keep their legs closed You were saying? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:887481853] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote></quote> Then don't make definitive statements like this if they're so easily countered</quote> youre not a very critical thinker if you really cant understand the meaning of the statement</quote> <cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote> Why can't people just make smarter choices? And if they can't make smarter choices they should just keep their legs closed</quote> You were saying?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoliske 09/28/17 10:20:43 PM #46:	It's pretty straightforward. Abortion is a horrible consequence of a long line of terrible decisions. <cite>smoliske posted [p:887481944] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty straightforward. Abortion is a horrible consequence of a long line of terrible decisions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 09/28/17 10:20:44 PM #47:	smoliske posted... Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices Right because 18 years on SNAP is cheaper than an abortion . . . --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:887481947] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>Terrible idea to have tax payers pay for people's bad choices</quote> Right because 18 years on SNAP is cheaper than an abortion . . .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 09/28/17 10:20:53 PM #48:	This is cool and good. Restricting access to contraception and medical procedures such as abortions are a violation of a woman's right to control her own damned body. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:887481958] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote>This is cool and good. Restricting access to contraception and medical procedures such as abortions are a violation of a woman's right to control her own damned body.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 09/28/17 10:22:06 PM #49:	ElatedVenusaur posted... This is cool and good. Restricting access to contraception and medical procedures such as abortions are a violation of a woman's right to control her own damned body. so if we don't force someone to pay for someone else's abortion, we're restricting access to contraception and medical procedures? lmfao gtfo <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:887482021] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>This is cool and good. Restricting access to contraception and medical procedures such as abortions are a violation of a woman's right to control her own damned body.</quote> so if we don't force someone to pay for someone else's abortion, we're restricting access to contraception and medical procedures? lmfao gtfo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 09/28/17 10:23:33 PM #50:	FLUFFYGERM posted... ElatedVenusaur posted... This is cool and good. Restricting access to contraception and medical procedures such as abortions are a violation of a woman's right to control her own damned body. so if we don't force someone to pay for someone else's abortion, we're restricting access to contraception and medical procedures? lmfao gtfo The short answer, red states are adding genuine restrictions so . . . fuck you. And your taxes. shrug --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:887482107] in Illinois G... [t:75824421]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>This is cool and good. Restricting access to contraception and medical procedures such as abortions are a violation of a woman's right to control her own damned body.</quote> so if we don't force someone to pay for someone else's abortion, we're restricting access to contraception and medical procedures? lmfao gtfo</quote> The short answer, red states are adding genuine restrictions so . . . fuck you. And your taxes. shrug</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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