Current Events > Alejandro Villanueva appearance during national anthem surprised Steelers

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Damn_Underscore
09/25/17 4:09:07 PM
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20810701/pittsburgh-steelers-surprised-alejandro-villanueva-move

Alejandro Villanueva's emergence from the Soldier Field tunnel during Sunday's national anthem surprised many members of the Pittsburgh Steelers, a source told ESPN.

Villanueva, a former Army Ranger who served terms in Afghanistan, was the lone Steeler to appear despite an expectation from Saturday's players-only meeting that the entire team would remain in the locker room, the source said.
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Balrog0
09/25/17 4:14:08 PM
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I think I've seen him on military commercials so I wasnt surprised
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Fossil
09/25/17 4:17:54 PM
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"y dint u be a sheep lyk us?!"
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That_Happened
09/25/17 4:23:18 PM
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Fossil posted...
"y dint u be a sheep lyk us?!"

Wouldn't standing up for the anthem like everybody else be more "sheeplike?" Refusing to stand is actually going against the grain in this situation.
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CruelBuffalo
09/25/17 4:26:03 PM
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Fossil posted...
"y dint u be a sheep lyk us?!"

Why are you writing it like this?
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That_Happened
09/25/17 4:28:18 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Fossil posted...
"y dint u be a sheep lyk us?!"

Why are you writing it like this?

Also, why write it at all? If you read the article his teammates were sympathetic:

Asked what played into Villanueva's leaving the tunnel, defensive end Cam Heyward said: "I don't want to go into that, but we support our guy Al. He feels he had to do it. This guy served our country, and we thank him for it."

Teammates widely respect Villanueva for serving the country, and they made that clear Sunday.

"Al is a unique circumstance, what he's been through, some of the things he's talked about before," guard David DeCastro said of Villanueva's decision Sunday.

"I've got a lot of respect for Al. I wish there was a different way to do this thing. We've got some people who look at the national anthem as patriotism, soldiers, all the stuff that it means, and obviously, people are upset, and I understand that. I just wish both sides understand that they want the right thing, but doing it through the national anthem, I wish there was a different way."

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De Evolution
09/25/17 4:29:23 PM
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And what if Al hadn't served but still felt patriotic or wanted to observe the National Anthem?

Why does he need an excuse or reason?
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s0nicfan
09/25/17 4:29:38 PM
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That_Happened posted...
"I wish there was a different way to do this thing... but doing it through the national anthem, I wish there was a different way."


There isn't?
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That_Happened
09/25/17 4:38:58 PM
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De Evolution posted...
And what if Al hadn't served but still felt patriotic or wanted to observe the National Anthem?

Why does he need an excuse or reason?

They didn't say he *needed* one. They just said they had a discussion with him and understood his position. Boy, some of you just have to be insufferable about the smallest things. Enjoy the fact that these adults were able to act like adults...it's seemingly more and more rare these days.
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Mal_Fet
09/25/17 4:43:26 PM
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Makes sense, a military veteran isn't very likely to disrespect the anthem over hashtag activism.
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hortanz
09/25/17 4:45:38 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Makes sense, a military veteran isn't very likely to disrespect the anthem over hashtag activism.

http://www.newsweek.com/military-veteran-kneeling-nfl-national-anthem-670341
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NYmasajista
09/25/17 4:46:18 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
I think I've seen him on military commercials so I wasnt surprised

Yeah it was either military or military insurance commercials iirc.

Makes sense for him to not **** up those contracts and endorsements. Business is business.
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Mal_Fet
09/25/17 4:47:23 PM
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hortanz posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Makes sense, a military veteran isn't very likely to disrespect the anthem over hashtag activism.

http://www.newsweek.com/military-veteran-kneeling-nfl-national-anthem-670341
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That article isn't even of a veteran kneeling for the anthem. He just says they have a right to protest, which no one has ever denied.

Care to try again?
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Giant_Aspirin
09/25/17 4:51:12 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
hortanz posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Makes sense, a military veteran isn't very likely to disrespect the anthem over hashtag activism.

http://www.newsweek.com/military-veteran-kneeling-nfl-national-anthem-670341
4kK7LBI

That article isn't even of a veteran kneeling for the anthem. He just says they have a right to protest, which no one has ever denied.

Care to try again?


second sentence of the article

John Middlemas, a 97-year-old veteran of World War II, not only posed on his knee for a social media photo taken by his grandson,

there's even a photograph of the action, in case that's too much reading for you:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKfvD2cXoAAXie2.jpg

edit: rut roh, Mal's probably going to get all excited while he points out the photo i mentioned wasn't taken during the actual playing of a National Anthem. but, really, how does he know that? there very well could have been an Anthem playing while that photo was taken, the world may never know.
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justaguy3492
09/25/17 4:53:40 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
second sentence of the article

John Middlemas, a 97-year-old veteran of World War II, not only posed on his knee for a social media photo taken by his grandson,

there's even a photograph of the action, in case that's too much reading for you:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKfvD2cXoAAXie2.jpg


Clearly he just fell down and someone happened to get a picture at the right time, that's the only possible explanation for this. FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS.
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Twin3Turbo
09/25/17 4:53:40 PM
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NYmasajista posted...
Balrog0 posted...
I think I've seen him on military commercials so I wasnt surprised

Yeah it was either military or military insurance commercials iirc.

Makes sense for him to not **** up those contracts and endorsements. Business is business.

Yeah it's for USAA which is an insurance company that HEAVILY goes after military veterans and their families as their main customer base
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FrisbeeDude
09/25/17 4:53:53 PM
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I hope the same level of understanding will be extended to guys on other teams who break rank to protest...
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De Evolution
09/25/17 4:54:26 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
NYmasajista posted...
Balrog0 posted...
I think I've seen him on military commercials so I wasnt surprised

Yeah it was either military or military insurance commercials iirc.

Makes sense for him to not **** up those contracts and endorsements. Business is business.

Yeah it's for USAA which is an insurance company that HEAVILY goes after military veterans and their families as their main customer base


They offer excellent banking services by the way.
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HBOSS
09/25/17 4:54:34 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSt6q0K1KTw

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Mal_Fet
09/25/17 7:42:10 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
John Middlemas, a 97-year-old veteran of World War II, not only posed on his knee for a social media photo taken by his grandson,

So it wasn't during the anthem then.
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Mal_Fet
09/26/17 12:43:18 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
@Giant_Aspirin posted...
John Middlemas, a 97-year-old veteran of World War II, not only posed on his knee for a social media photo taken by his grandson,

So it wasn't during the anthem then.

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NinjaWarrior455
09/26/17 12:47:31 AM
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Who posted?
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Giant_Aspirin
09/26/17 10:19:12 AM
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@Mal_Fet posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
John Middlemas, a 97-year-old veteran of World War II, not only posed on his knee for a social media photo taken by his grandson,

So it wasn't during the anthem then.


how can you possibly assert that with any level of confidence? you weren't there, and it's just a still photograph, not a video, so there could have been a national anthem playing in the background?

also, are you seriously going to try and assert that not a single veteran has taken a knee during the Anthem since this whole charade started? of course you are.

also, i like how you're so eager for an argument here and you just had to @ me.
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AlternativeFAQS
09/26/17 10:19:59 AM
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Fossil posted...
"y dint u be a sheep lyk us?!"



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Mal_Fet
09/26/17 4:36:17 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
@Mal_Fet posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
John Middlemas, a 97-year-old veteran of World War II, not only posed on his knee for a social media photo taken by his grandson,

So it wasn't during the anthem then.


how can you possibly assert that with any level of confidence? you weren't there, and it's just a still photograph, not a video, so there could have been a national anthem playing in the background?

also, are you seriously going to try and assert that not a single veteran has taken a knee during the Anthem since this whole charade started? of course you are.

also, i like how you're so eager for an argument here and you just had to @ me.

He's kneeling in what appears to be his back yard. It's not during the anthem.
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