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Antifar
09/21/17 4:46:25 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/politics/kfile-roy-moore-homosexuality-illegal/index.html
Roy Moore, a Republican US Senate candidate in Alabama, said in a 2005 interview that he believes "homosexual conduct" should be illegal.

Moore, a hardline conservative Christian and former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, made the comments in an interview with liberal commentator Bill Press on C-SPAN2's After Words. Moore appeared on the show to publicize a book he had just written about his expulsion from the court for refusing to take down a monument to the Ten Commandments.

During the interview Press asked Moore if he believed homosexual conduct should still be illegal after the 2003 landmark Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas that struck down a state law banning sodomy, rendering similar laws across the country unconstitutional.

"What I think is that it was illegal under the law, that the Supreme Court usurped the role of the legislature and ruled something about our moral law that is improper, and that's what we're finding the Supreme Court and the federal district courts are doing daily," Moore responded. "They've usurped the moral prerogative, now, if you want--"

Press cut in, saying, "I don't understand your answer. I think it's a yes or no. Do you think that homosexual--homosexuality, or homosexual conduct should be illegal today? That's a yes or no question."

"Homosexual conduct should be illegal, yes," Moore answered.

While Moore has long said he opposed the Supreme Court's 2003 decision, his response to Press's question is the most explicit answer he has given in public on his beliefs regarding the legality of sexual conduct between gay adults.

A phone call to Moore wasn't returned. A spokesperson for Moore's campaign, Noel Fritsch said he wouldn't answer CNN's questions about Moore's current position.

Moore made similar comments in a 2015 video posted on YouTube by user Lone Star Q. In the video, Moore was asked, "Do you still think that homosexuality should be illegal?"

"I think homosexuality should be illegal," Moore said. "Sodomy was declared illegal by the United States Supreme Court in 1987, it said there was no right under the constitution to enlarge the fundamental rights of homosexuals."

"But then they came back and overturned it," the interviewer said.

"Well surely they overturned it. They didn't go by their own precedent, did they?" Moore said.

Moore has been a staunch opponent of LGBT rights throughout his career. Last September he was suspended from Alabama's Supreme Court for failing to comply with the Federal Supreme Court's ruling that legalized gay marriage nationwide. In 2014, Moore wrote letters to all 50 state governors calling on them to convene a constitutional convention to ban gay marriage.

CNN has also reported that Moore repeatedly appeared on a radio show hosted by a pastor who preaches the death penalty for homosexuality.

Later in the interview, when Press asked why the government should ban what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes, Moore compared gay sex to bestiality.


Moore received 39% of the vote in the GOP primary, the most of any candidate, advancing to a runoff. This is what Alabama Republicans want.
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Caution999
09/21/17 4:48:41 PM
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Reminder: Obama did not enter the White House as supportive of gay marriage


Bet that one stings, huh, AntiFar? Typical Obama...caving into pressure. Who knows how he REALLY feels about it.
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LightningAce11
09/21/17 4:50:01 PM
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Literally "but obama" in the second post.

Never change, trumpanzee.
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A_Good_Boy
09/21/17 4:50:06 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Reminder: Obama did not enter the White House as supportive of gay marriage


Bet that one stings, huh, AntiFar?

Was he an opponent?
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LIsJustice
09/21/17 4:50:27 PM
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Moore was fired from the same job, twice/
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Blue_Inigo
09/21/17 4:50:40 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Reminder: Obama did not enter the White House as supportive of gay marriage


Bet that one stings, huh, AntiFar? Typical Obama...caving into pressure. Who knows how he REALLY feels about it.

Goddamn this post is stupid
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Axiom
09/21/17 4:50:46 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Bet that one stings, huh, AntiFar? Typical Obama...caving into pressure. Who knows how he REALLY feels about it.

Kinda weird that you're directing that at Antifar considering I've seen him criticize Obama before
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Caution999
09/21/17 4:51:12 PM
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Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.
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dotsdfe
09/21/17 4:51:14 PM
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Ultimately, a pretty big chunk of them are still very anti-gay from what I've seen. Most will claim that they don't care and that it's a done issue, but will absolutely take any chance they can to push any anti-LGBT agenda that they can.

It's why I can't support the party as a whole even though a chunk of my stances are pretty much in the middle. The party is ultimately still very anti-LGBT and I'll never support a party like that. Until they change, they'll never get my vote.
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Antifar
09/21/17 4:51:31 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Reminder: Obama did not enter the White House as supportive of gay marriage


Bet that one stings, huh, AntiFar?

It would if I liked Obama at all. You are not going to get me by pointing out that Democrats also suck.

Though, I'd also note that not supporting gay marriage in 2009, while cowardly, is a whole different ballgame from "homosexual conduct should be illegal" in 2015.
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Axiom
09/21/17 4:51:36 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

And he is most definitely not a dem
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Caution999
09/21/17 4:52:11 PM
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Axiom posted...
Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

And he is most definitely not a dem



Yeah, you're right. He's a traitor ;)
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prettyprincess
09/21/17 4:53:49 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

do you think 'homosexual conduct' should be illegal?
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CruelBuffalo
09/21/17 4:54:10 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

Hmmm. One was against gay marriage and one thinks the act of homosexuality should be outlawed. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Axiom
09/21/17 4:54:58 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Axiom posted...
Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

And he is most definitely not a dem



Yeah, you're right. He's a traitor ;)

Does criticism of the Republicans/Trump just make you incrementally more insane. It seems like your posts are becoming more unhinged each day
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BLAKUboy
09/21/17 4:56:00 PM
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Axiom posted...
And he is most definitely not a dem

He doesn't ride God Emperor Trump's dick 24/7 so clearly he's just a filthy liberal.
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Antifar
09/21/17 4:56:14 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Typical Obama...caving into pressure. Who knows how he REALLY feels about it.

Furthermore: who cares? A politician caving to pressure to support is good. A politician resisting pressure and continuing to oppose it is shitty. Obama's personal feelings do not matter in comparison to his administration's actual policies.
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Caution999
09/21/17 4:56:28 PM
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prettyprincess posted...
Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

do you think 'homosexual conduct' should be illegal?



No, I'm not M---[moderated]
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Roxborough4Ever
09/21/17 5:00:44 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Literally "but obama" in the second post.

Never change, trumpanzee.


Obama set the standard, Trump is just following through. Don't be upset.
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prettyprincess
09/21/17 5:00:50 PM
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Caution999 posted...
No

cool
so, to clarify, you do not support Moore's statements?
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Antifar
09/21/17 5:01:43 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
Obama set the standard, Trump is just following through. Don't be upset.

What does Trump have to do with this?
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Caution999
09/21/17 5:01:51 PM
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No, my whole point was that I'm tired of the Dems acting like they have the high ground.


But I'm really curious why it's OK for Muslims to hate the gays - but we're NOT ok with tolerating how Christians do not want to marry them.
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Roxborough4Ever
09/21/17 5:02:28 PM
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Antifar posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
Obama set the standard, Trump is just following through. Don't be upset.

What does Trump have to do with this?


ask the guy who called him a "trumpanzee"
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Antifar
09/21/17 5:03:28 PM
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Caution999 posted...
No, my whole point was that I'm tired of the Dems acting like they have the high ground.

They don't have a high ground. But the ground they stand on is nowhere near as low as the one Republicans are treading.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/21/17 5:03:41 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Literally "but obama" in the second post.

Never change, trumpanzee.

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Tadamoto22
09/21/17 5:03:57 PM
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A_Good_Boy
09/21/17 5:04:08 PM
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Caution999 posted...
No, my whole point was that I'm tired of the Dems acting like they have the high ground.


But I'm really curious why it's OK for Muslims to hate the gays - but we're NOT ok with tolerating how Christians do not want to marry them.

Christians also torture them.
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iPhone_7
09/21/17 5:05:02 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Axiom posted...
Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

And he is most definitely not a dem


Yeah, you're right. He's a traitor ;)


Whereas your orange messiah is the most patriotic American ever, having invited suspected Russian spies into the Oval Office at the behest of Putin and giving them classified information given to us in confidence by an ally.

You Trumpanzees are truly a basket of deplorables.
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Antifar
09/21/17 5:06:05 PM
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Caution999 posted...
But I'm really curious why it's OK for Muslims to hate the gays - but we're NOT ok with tolerating how Christians do not want to marry them.

You want to make America great again, right? Does "better than Saudi Arabia" count as great to you?
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UnholyMudcrab
09/21/17 5:06:51 PM
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Caution999
09/21/17 5:06:56 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Axiom posted...
Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

And he is most definitely not a dem


Yeah, you're right. He's a traitor ;)


Whereas your orange messiah is the most patriotic American ever, having invited suspected Russian spies into the Oval Office at the behest of Putin and giving them classified information given to us in confidence by an ally.

You Trumpanzees are truly a basket of deplorables.


Obama spied on Trump, Hillary got the debate questions ahead of time, the media slurped her p****, and she STILL lost.

When will you people learn? Real Americans voted Trump in. The sooner you accept that reality, the sooner you can get back to winning.

But keep up the "muh Russia" angle. You'll never get back in power until you respect the vote of the American public.

Guess who voted for Obama twice?

ME.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/21/17 5:06:59 PM
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Caution999 posted...
No, my whole point was that I'm tired of the Dems acting like they have the high ground.


But I'm really curious why it's OK for Muslims to hate the gays - but we're NOT ok with tolerating how Christians do not want to marry them.


Who is saying it's okay for muslims to hate gays?
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Axiom
09/21/17 5:08:54 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Caution999 posted...
No, my whole point was that I'm tired of the Dems acting like they have the high ground.


But I'm really curious why it's OK for Muslims to hate the gays - but we're NOT ok with tolerating how Christians do not want to marry them.


Who is saying it's okay for muslims to hate gays?

The voices in his head I suppose since I've never seen anyone say muslims hating gays is ok
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/21/17 5:08:57 PM
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Caution999 posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Axiom posted...
Caution999 posted...
Just pointing out the Dems don't have the moral high ground that they all believe they hold.

And he is most definitely not a dem


Yeah, you're right. He's a traitor ;)


Whereas your orange messiah is the most patriotic American ever, having invited suspected Russian spies into the Oval Office at the behest of Putin and giving them classified information given to us in confidence by an ally.

You Trumpanzees are truly a basket of deplorables.


Obama spied on Trump, Hillary got the debate questions ahead of time, the media slurped her p****, and she STILL lost.

When will you people learn? Real Americans voted Trump in. The sooner you accept that reality, the sooner you can get back to winning.

But keep up the "muh Russia" angle. You'll never get back in power until you respect the vote of the American public.

Guess who voted for Obama twice?

ME.


"Real americans" lol. "Respect the vote of the American public" lol. You are such a joke.
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Antifar
09/21/17 5:09:46 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Guess who voted for Obama twice?

ME.

Wow, you must really like guys who opposed gay marriage.
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Caution999
09/21/17 5:09:55 PM
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"MUH RUSsIA!~"
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Caution999
09/21/17 5:10:41 PM
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Antifar posted...
Caution999 posted...
Guess who voted for Obama twice?

ME.

Wow, you must really like guys who opposed gay marriage.



I really thought Obama did great in his first term tbh. Never liked McCain.

As for gay marriage, I've been in support of that for a long time. It doesn't effect my life, so I don't know why we would hold back on such a silly issue. Everyone deserves the same rights.
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Balrog0
09/21/17 5:11:22 PM
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Antifar posted...
Though, I'd also note that not supporting gay marriage in 2009, while cowardly, is a whole different ballgame from "homosexual conduct should be illegal" in 2015.


he literally supported gay couples getting more expansive civil rights than they had in terms of visitation rights and so on

I dunno if he officially said he was in favor of civil unions, but that was the rhetoric he used

yes it was cowardly but pretending it is even comparable to thinking sodomy laws are okay is both misleading and even more cowardly imo
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SageHarpuia
09/21/17 5:11:24 PM
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Where do I cast my ballot?

/s
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tremain07
09/21/17 5:12:04 PM
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Remember when clinton called african americans "Super predators" or that democrats are largely responsible for the problems facing the black community today?
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Balrog0
09/21/17 5:12:33 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Remember when clinton called african americans "Super predators" or that democrats are largely responsible for the problems facing the black community today?


yes and no in that order
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Antifar
09/21/17 5:12:58 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Remember when clinton called african americans "Super predators"

Yes I do.
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CADE FOSTER
09/21/17 5:13:08 PM
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All republicans are scum tbh the hate islamic terrorists but the have some similar ideologies hmm
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tremain07
09/21/17 5:13:51 PM
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Democrats and liberals will never hold power again at this rate, yeah, racism and bigotry is real, so what, people are gonna be people, calling it out just makes them annoying, like that kid who tattles on everybody in class.
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DezCaughtIt
09/21/17 5:13:57 PM
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It's worth noting that Luther Strange, Roy Moore's opponent in the runoff, essentially holds the same view.

Also it's my state of Alabama. No one should be surprised he believes this. The morality of that is a completely different argument though, and I would agree he's a real piece of shit
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Caution999
09/21/17 5:14:12 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
All republicans are scum tbh the hate islamic terrorists but the have some similar ideologies hmm



What's the counter at for Republican terrorist attacks versus Radical Islamic terrorist attacks?

Just checking the score board.
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CruelBuffalo
09/21/17 5:14:31 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Remember when clinton called african americans "Super predators" or that democrats are largely responsible for the problems facing the black community today?

She called all African American super predators?

I do remember her apologize for using that language to describe youth drug dealers over a bill Sanders and many in the black community supported at the time but now we see it was flawed.
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Balrog0
09/21/17 5:16:02 PM
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people at the time knew it was flawed and politicians like the clintons, sanders, and the congressional black caucus all used it to their political advantage rather than protecting the neediest among us

ofc what this doesnt tell you is that the GOP was much more unified behind it and pushing it forward but hey
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SageHarpuia
09/21/17 5:16:15 PM
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All republicans are scum tbh the hate islamic terrorists but the have some similar ideologies hmm


How does "I don't agree with your lifestyle and can't go along with it, but I will still respect you as a person regardless" equate to "Kill all the infidels and homosexuals! Praise Allah!"?
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