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Axiom
09/20/17 3:57:18 PM
#202:


GiftedACIII posted...
DarkPink posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
I mean, you kind of have to put it in perspective. His father was a drug lord (so the money isn't even all pure law abiding money) and he grew up in what is pretty much a criminal environment with very criminal relatives as his peers. Considering all that he could do A LOT worse with the money he inherited but instead he chooses to mostly lead a law abiding life with only being a bit sexually sadistic to show for it.


..why are you making excuses for him? like what?


Explaining someone's childhood is making excuses for them? That's what all sorts of professionals and sociologists do. One of the beltway sniper's backstory was used to give him a lesser sentence and people explain how disenfranchised minorities grow up in a poor and destitute environment to justify the crimes they commit.
But, hey, I guess you now know first hand how hard it is to do that to someone you personally know.

I actually had no idea his father was a huge drug lord but that does explain his association with brutal gangs >_>

You know from what was posted in the other topic it sounds like everyone in real life was telling him to take it seriously while he thought it was no big deal and it would just blow over. Can't say I'm really surprised he's now in jail
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Freddie_Mercury
09/20/17 4:00:41 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Some people get super triggered by him though and it’s super funny to see.

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DarkPink
09/20/17 4:01:12 PM
#204:


GiftedACIII posted...
Explaining someone's childhood is making excuses for them? That's what all sorts of professionals and sociologists do. One of the beltway sniper's backstory was used to give him a lesser sentence and people explain how disenfranchised minorities grow up in a poor and destitute environment to justify the crimes they commit.
But, hey, I guess you now know first hand how hard it is to do that to someone you personally know.
Also, Australia prison isn't anything like US prisons so you can forget about your fantasies about what might happen to him in there


umm no. for one gavi never grew up poor, he was a silver spoon brat. on top of that his looks would make his life so much easier than most just because he won the birth lottery twice over. also i never made that a fantasy so dont put words in my mouth. knowing someone like gavi anyway, hed probably end up as one of the leaders in the jail, if you watched oz he reminds me of alonzo torquemada, a sociopath that all the lesser sociopaths will follow just because he knows how to manipulate people).

i dont care what excuses he has for how he acts the way he does, hes filth.
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DarkPink
09/20/17 4:03:51 PM
#206:


GOATTHlEF posted...
Lol what a ruse it will be when gavi returns on friday and reveals he's not in jail.


even if he was he'll probably just lie about it.
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The_Russians
09/20/17 4:05:18 PM
#207:


GiftedACIII posted...
The_Russians posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
If he paid people and they agreed to it then what law was broken? Prostitution? But then wouldn't the other people be guilty too? It's definitely weird but how is it criminal?

If he fired people for not agreeing to do it then that would be civil, not criminal. Right? He would get sued. But cops coming to arrest him before the trial? That doesn't make sense.

Was he secretly recording people without permission and uploading it to the internet? That's the only place I could see criminal charges coming from.


So, so much wrong in this post. I work HR, I promise you, laws were broken and what he did was criminal.


What laws were broken? List them. Company policies aren't laws


You...you cannot be serious. Here, educate yourself.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+sexual+harassment+a+crime&oq=is+sexual+harass&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.6048j0j9&client=ms-android-att-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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Kanaya413
09/20/17 4:07:29 PM
#208:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
DarkPink posted...

forced countless people to kiss his ass on camera then when they were fired he made sure the images and videos would be attached to them forever. revenge porn.


What do you mean by forced? He physically intimidated them or used some other means of extortion? That would be messed up, if true. Did he confess that to you or is this all speculation?


well, he paid them large amounts of money to do it. He had a girl fishing money out of his ass with her mouth.

What the fuck
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GiftedACIII
09/20/17 4:11:55 PM
#209:


Axiom posted...

You know from what was posted in the other topic it sounds like everyone in real life was telling him to take it seriously while he thought it was no big deal and it would just blow over. Can't say I'm really surprised he's now in jail

I actually don't know much about the current case. Apparently it's mostly to do with sharing the pictures? I always assumed they gave him permission to do it but if they didn't it is pretty terrible and stupid for him to do that. I guess he did always have a fratbro mind and don't think about the consequences of these things.

DarkPink posted...
umm no. for one gavi never grew up poor, he was a silver spoon brat. on top of that his looks would make his life so much easier than most just because he won the birth lottery twice over.

It's not about money (though I'm pretty sure he was still a minority), it's that he was raised by a criminal and surrounded by criminal peers. Bullies who've had abusive parents are also explained with their childhood. It doesn't totally excuse them for what they've done but it makes it more understandable and most people would suggest rehabilitation over punishment for them.

The_Russians posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
The_Russians posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
If he paid people and they agreed to it then what law was broken? Prostitution? But then wouldn't the other people be guilty too? It's definitely weird but how is it criminal?

If he fired people for not agreeing to do it then that would be civil, not criminal. Right? He would get sued. But cops coming to arrest him before the trial? That doesn't make sense.

Was he secretly recording people without permission and uploading it to the internet? That's the only place I could see criminal charges coming from.


So, so much wrong in this post. I work HR, I promise you, laws were broken and what he did was criminal.


What laws were broken? List them. Company policies aren't laws


You...you cannot be serious. Here, educate yourself.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+sexual+harassment+a+crime&oq=is+sexual+harass&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.6048j0j9&client=ms-android-att-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Sexual Harassment charges are not prison-worthy charges and do not usually cover isolated incidents (though if Gavi really did do this over an extended period of time I wouldn't be surprised).
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DarkPink
09/20/17 4:26:09 PM
#210:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
I’m not the biggest fan of him can he’s super smug in political topics, but I don’t have much beef with him. Some people get super triggered by him though and it’s super funny to see. He also helped us drive out the fake XciteMe so that’s good.


oh i was wondering where xciteme went. what did gavi do to him? the usual threats? i dont imagine forcing him to kiss his ass would humilate xciteme given his topics...

xciteme was mostly harmless, gavi on the other hand is someone i wouldnt trust a single bit.
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DarkPink
09/20/17 4:34:14 PM
#212:


shockthemonkey posted...
2yeOLw6

Not sure if this is about the people he's dealing with now or not, but I think it gives you all a pretty good look into how he thinks about all this and why he's a gross scumbag.


what does "where I've involved myself for RJ's from her" mean???

as i said, the more you learn about this guy the worse he seems. how does he have ANY support here at all.
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Axiom
09/20/17 4:35:48 PM
#213:


shockthemonkey posted...
Not sure if this is about the people he's dealing with now or not, but I think it gives you all a pretty good look into how he thinks about all this and why he's a gross scumbag.

Yeah I was there for that topic where he talked about forcing a woman to do things he knew she didn't want to do (Whose life he later destroyed by taking her house and admitted to taking great pleasure in doing so)

Honestly I really don't see why he's so surprised people have a poor opinion of him. He's an ok poster but man in real life he sounds like a sleazy conman
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GiftedACIII
09/20/17 4:38:47 PM
#214:


shockthemonkey posted...
2yeOLw6

Not sure if this is about the people he's dealing with now or not, but I think it gives you all a pretty good look into how he thinks about all this and why he's a gross scumbag.

Axiom posted...
Yeah I was there for that topic where he talked about forcing a woman to do things he knew she didn't want to do (Whose life he later destroyed by taking her house and admitted to taking great pleasure in doing so)

Ok I don't know what any of this is. Is his business a porn producing company or something?
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Funkydog
09/20/17 4:39:12 PM
#215:


Axiom posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Not sure if this is about the people he's dealing with now or not, but I think it gives you all a pretty good look into how he thinks about all this and why he's a gross scumbag.

Yeah I was there for that topic where he talked about forcing a woman to do things he knew she didn't want to do (Whose life he later destroyed by taking her house and admitted to taking great pleasure in doing so)

Honestly I really don't see why he's so surprised people have a poor opinion of him. He's an ok poster but man in real life he sounds like a sleazy conman

I very much doubt he is surprised in the slightest. He just gets off on trolling about it all.
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ColdOne666
09/20/17 4:40:23 PM
#216:


Good riddance i always new he was a scumbag.
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Axiom
09/20/17 4:41:34 PM
#217:


GiftedACIII posted...
Ok I don't know what any of this is. Is his business a porn producing company or something?

Porn was what he implied but of course he was vague like he always is. Basically it was a girl under contract who wanted out of it but he not only refused to let her out he forced her to do things she didn't want to. Eventually he took her house and all of her property in exchange for letting her out of it I assume
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SGT_Conti
09/20/17 4:41:49 PM
#218:


Axiom posted...
Honestly I really don't see why he's so surprised people have a poor opinion of him.

Because he's a narcissist who either legitimately believes he's as great as he presents or has a desperate need for people to think so. He's like a textbook case of someone with NPD.
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pojr
09/20/17 4:41:50 PM
#219:


I like gavi

He doesn't sway his opinion based on how others feel. If it's everyone vs him, he will still stand his ground if he thinks he's right

I have respect for that
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DarkPink
09/20/17 4:42:04 PM
#220:


GiftedACIII posted...
Ok I don't know what any of this is. Is his business a porn producing company or something?


judging from the pictures posted earlier from his fb he seems to run a fair bit of stuff which in all likelyhood was left to him by his rich daddy. he was a former stripper for a while and said his sister has a modelling company, dont know about porn though.
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DarkPink
09/20/17 4:43:11 PM
#221:


Axiom posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Ok I don't know what any of this is. Is his business a porn producing company or something?

Porn was what he implied but of course he was vague like he always is. Basically it was a girl under contract who wanted out of it but he not only refused to let her out he forced her to do things she didn't want to. Eventually he took her house and all of her property in exchange for letting her out of it I assume


how is this not fucking rape?
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GiftedACIII
09/20/17 4:45:20 PM
#222:


Axiom posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Ok I don't know what any of this is. Is his business a porn producing company or something?

Porn was what he implied but of course he was vague like he always is. Basically it was a girl under contract who wanted out of it but he not only refused to let her out he forced her to do things she didn't want to. Eventually he took her house and all of her property in exchange for letting her out of it I assume

Yeah, that is scummy. The contract thing is weird though. If she's under contract she can't get out without being fined right? If she really didn't want to do it, she had to take the money loss like any actor would if they decide to break contract. Though it sounds like he both had her continue with the contract AND take her stuff at the end which is really disgusting.
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Freddie_Mercury
09/20/17 4:46:16 PM
#223:


pojr posted...
I like gavi

He doesn't sway his opinion based on how others feel. If it's everyone vs him, he will still stand his ground if he thinks he's right

I have respect for that



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nbda3A4eWFR2
09/20/17 4:48:49 PM
#225:


He's probably one of the few people who upset CE more than I do simply by being happy.
I like him
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DarkPink
09/20/17 4:54:15 PM
#227:


shockthemonkey posted...
Yes, he was the boss of some sort at a porn company according to him.

When I have time I can go through he other PMs he sent me. He kept claiming there was nothing scummy about making other actors lick his ass even though they were against it (including in scenes that weren't going to be in the final cut anyway) because he's the boss and that's their job.


i really have trouble understanding this. like why does he do all this? its not like he wouldnt be able to get laid normally because hes far from ugly but its like he really does get off on shoving his ass in peoples faces and making them practically worship it. oh how i wish he wasnt a trust fund baby, maybe then he wouldnt have ended up such a total maniac scumbag. also im still not sure what the "RJ's" thing means.
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TheBiggerWiggle
09/20/17 4:54:43 PM
#228:


Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
I'll post back if I hear anything with a yes/no answer but don't expect me to spill details about his personal shit because if anyone PMs me asking about shit that's none of their business I'm just reporting the message. I will give basic info that could normally be found in a newspaper though just for closure.


What a bad ass! What a hero!
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DarkPink
09/20/17 4:58:17 PM
#230:


shockthemonkey posted...
RJ = rimjob = eating ass


oh wow i feel stupid. that is extremely obvious given the context...sigh thx.
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Sexypwnstar
09/20/17 5:02:08 PM
#231:


Whose alt is DarkPink? like lmao

Anyways, not surprised certain users here are vehemently defending or "giving him the benefit of the doubt" when they've been given money by him
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DanielCormier
09/20/17 5:04:31 PM
#232:


It sucks that he's in jail. He deserves much worse.
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DarkPink
09/20/17 5:05:05 PM
#233:


Sexypwnstar posted...
Whose alt is DarkPink? like lmao

Anyways, not surprised certain users here are vehemently defending or "giving him the benefit of the doubt" when they've been given money by him


not an alt but my main account isnt active anymore. i left the site about a year ago and would rather keep my old username a secret until i make sure that the user who stalked me and asked me for pics during my transition is definately gone (which wasnt gavi, one thing he didnt do)
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nbda3A4eWFR2
09/20/17 5:06:11 PM
#234:


DarkPink posted...

not an alt but my main account isnt active anymore. i left the site about a year ago and would rather keep my old username a secret until i make sure that the user who stalked me and asked me for pics during my transition is definately gone (which wasnt gavi, one thing he didnt do)

It's not that hard to narrow it down.
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sktgamer_13dude
09/20/17 5:16:51 PM
#236:


Freddie_Mercury posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Some people get super triggered by him though and it’s super funny to see.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

What’s the point?

I literally said he gets smug in political topics but other than that he’s not that bad. Stay salty tho.
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PG_Era
09/20/17 5:19:55 PM
#237:


Fair, next.
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PG_Era
09/20/17 5:21:26 PM
#238:


How long is that scum in jail?
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The_Russians
09/20/17 5:24:42 PM
#239:


GiftedACIII posted...
Axiom posted...

You know from what was posted in the other topic it sounds like everyone in real life was telling him to take it seriously while he thought it was no big deal and it would just blow over. Can't say I'm really surprised he's now in jail

I actually don't know much about the current case. Apparently it's mostly to do with sharing the pictures? I always assumed they gave him permission to do it but if they didn't it is pretty terrible and stupid for him to do that. I guess he did always have a fratbro mind and don't think about the consequences of these things.

DarkPink posted...
umm no. for one gavi never grew up poor, he was a silver spoon brat. on top of that his looks would make his life so much easier than most just because he won the birth lottery twice over.

It's not about money (though I'm pretty sure he was still a minority), it's that he was raised by a criminal and surrounded by criminal peers. Bullies who've had abusive parents are also explained with their childhood. It doesn't totally excuse them for what they've done but it makes it more understandable and most people would suggest rehabilitation over punishment for them.

The_Russians posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
The_Russians posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
If he paid people and they agreed to it then what law was broken? Prostitution? But then wouldn't the other people be guilty too? It's definitely weird but how is it criminal?

If he fired people for not agreeing to do it then that would be civil, not criminal. Right? He would get sued. But cops coming to arrest him before the trial? That doesn't make sense.

Was he secretly recording people without permission and uploading it to the internet? That's the only place I could see criminal charges coming from.


So, so much wrong in this post. I work HR, I promise you, laws were broken and what he did was criminal.


What laws were broken? List them. Company policies aren't laws


You...you cannot be serious. Here, educate yourself.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+sexual+harassment+a+crime&oq=is+sexual+harass&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.6048j0j9&client=ms-android-att-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Sexual Harassment charges are not prison-worthy charges and do not usually cover isolated incidents (though if Gavi really did do this over an extended period of time I wouldn't be surprised).


Wrongo. Read the links.
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P4wn4g3
09/20/17 5:25:15 PM
#240:


In jail!? Surely this is a first for him.
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ItsVinceRusso
09/20/17 5:26:22 PM
#241:


All that's left for him to complete his transformation into Newports is to come back and make a topic about how Kenan and Kel made him realize he's not ar acist
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Delirious_Beard
09/20/17 5:29:15 PM
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guy is fucking scum
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mortimerjames
09/20/17 5:33:04 PM
#243:


judging from that message, the guy seems like a POS
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GiftedACIII
09/20/17 5:33:44 PM
#244:


The_Russians posted...
GiftedACIII posted...

I actually don't know much about the current case. Apparently it's mostly to do with sharing the pictures? I always assumed they gave him permission to do it but if they didn't it is pretty terrible and stupid for him to do that. I guess he did always have a fratbro mind and don't think about the consequences of these things.

DarkPink posted...
umm no. for one gavi never grew up poor, he was a silver spoon brat. on top of that his looks would make his life so much easier than most just because he won the birth lottery twice over.

It's not about money (though I'm pretty sure he was still a minority), it's that he was raised by a criminal and surrounded by criminal peers. Bullies who've had abusive parents are also explained with their childhood. It doesn't totally excuse them for what they've done but it makes it more understandable and most people would suggest rehabilitation over punishment for them.

The_Russians posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
The_Russians posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
If he paid people and they agreed to it then what law was broken? Prostitution? But then wouldn't the other people be guilty too? It's definitely weird but how is it criminal?

If he fired people for not agreeing to do it then that would be civil, not criminal. Right? He would get sued. But cops coming to arrest him before the trial? That doesn't make sense.

Was he secretly recording people without permission and uploading it to the internet? That's the only place I could see criminal charges coming from.


So, so much wrong in this post. I work HR, I promise you, laws were broken and what he did was criminal.


What laws were broken? List them. Company policies aren't laws


You...you cannot be serious. Here, educate yourself.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+sexual+harassment+a+crime&oq=is+sexual+harass&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.6048j0j9&client=ms-android-att-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Sexual Harassment charges are not prison-worthy charges and do not usually cover isolated incidents (though if Gavi really did do this over an extended period of time I wouldn't be surprised).


Wrongo. Read the links.

You should read the links. Give me a source where it says sexual harassment is a prison-worthy crime? And it's said right in the first few links that it doesn't cover isolated incidents, need an opportunity for the perpetrator to realize he was wrong and is also hard to prove without evidence. Though most of this is completely moot now that I learned that the business he had completely ran on sex. We need details of what exactly was in the contract because if he had specifically included the ass licking in it then they were legally obligated to do just that or get fired and fined. Apparently they chose that over getting fired. If an actress in a romantic movie decides she finds her co-lead disgusting and refuses to kiss him and do any romantic scenes with him then that's breaking contract and it's not forced coercion or sexual harassment for the producers and directors to say that you either have to kiss him or be kicked out and potentially have your reputation as an actress ruined.
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Turbam
09/20/17 5:39:12 PM
#245:


I don't know what's going on, but I didn't wanna miss out on the hottest topic on ce :V
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P4wn4g3
09/20/17 5:41:08 PM
#246:


You guys are arguing over American laws when gavi is in Australia.
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Marmitecashews
09/20/17 5:51:35 PM
#247:


Th3Truth posted...
If she was under contract she wasn't forced to do shit. That's what she literally signed up for.

Have you seen her contract?
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DocileOrangeCup
09/20/17 6:04:20 PM
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GiftedACIII
09/20/17 6:10:40 PM
#250:


shockthemonkey posted...
If you film a scene without any intent to release it and then only release it after the fact because you don't like them personally, what would you call that?

Depends on what's in the contract. Two regular people filming themselves having sex are usually only for private use and releasing it without permission from both parties breaks privacy laws. However when it's under contract for a business that film becomes the property of that business and they can release it how and whenever they feel like it as they've already paid them to be in it.
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Tryhaptaward
09/20/17 6:15:55 PM
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Prison life

He began his sentence in Sydney's Long Bay Correctional Centre but was soon moved to maximum security in Goulburn Gaol after prison officers uncovered plans by fellow inmates to inject him with HIV-infected blood.

In March 2003, he was charged with writing a threatening letter to Corrective Services Commissioner, Ron Woodham.[1] The letter had been found in an internal prison mailbox. The letter said: "Don't take this as a threat but if all Muslims aren't released by January 2003 Australia and citizens will be in danger of bombing". White powder had been put into the letter.[1]

While awaiting a court appearance for the letter incident, in July 2003, drawings of gang rape were discovered in Skaf's prison cell. The drawings depicted violence and rape against his once loyal fiancée, who had ended their relationship in March 2003. After she had cut off ties with Skaf, she was subjected to threatening phone calls and letters. She now says he can "rot in hell".[14][15]

According to Corrective Services Commissioner, Ron Woodham, Skaf has not shown remorse for his crimes. Woodham also says Skaf has warned prison officers to be careful outside of work, as they may be shot.[14]

In April 2015 he was attacked by two other inmates in jail and sustained "serious facial injuries".
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Lol, I can totally see how he and Gavi are related
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