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darkphoenix181 09/19/17 3:41:04 PM #1:	At the dance she walks up to him and shoves her finger at his face and says "you will like me" as if to hypnotize him seems harmless enough and playful for a bubbly girl to do HOWEVER as it turns out she has the power of a sorceress within her and it so happens Squall shortly falls madly in love with her despite no indication in any way that he is the type of guy to be into her, infact his emo "i hate the world attitude" would suggest he would find her annoying above all could it be she hexed him and made him her man slave whiteknight? Squall literally would be living Seifer's dream --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886901007] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>At the dance she walks up to him and shoves her finger at his face and says "you will like me" as if to hypnotize him seems harmless enough and playful for a bubbly girl to do HOWEVER as it turns out she has the power of a sorceress within her and it so happens Squall shortly falls madly in love with her despite no indication in any way that he is the type of guy to be into her, infact his emo "i hate the world attitude" would suggest he would find her annoying above all could it be she hexed him and made him her man slave whiteknight? Squall literally would be living Seifer's dream</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 09/19/17 3:42:23 PM #2:	She doesn't have her sorceress power at that point. :U She doesn't get it till Edea passes it onto her at Galbadia garden. I think she just literally dragged him off and Squall was too polite/awkward to fight it. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:886901085] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>She doesn't have her sorceress power at that point. :U She doesn't get it till Edea passes it onto her at Galbadia garden. I think she just literally dragged him off and Squall was too polite/awkward to fight it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 09/19/17 3:43:07 PM #3:	she didnt have the power of a sorceress in her at that point before a sorceress can die peacefully they need to pass their power on to someone else. rinoa doesnt get her sorceress powers until the end of disk 2 when edea is defeated for the final time and she passes her powers on to rinoa --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:886901141] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>she didnt have the power of a sorceress in her at that point before a sorceress can die peacefully they need to pass their power on to someone else. rinoa doesnt get her sorceress powers until the end of disk 2 when edea is defeated for the final time and she passes her powers on to rinoa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/19/17 3:43:51 PM #4:	yusiko posted... she didnt have the power of a sorceress in her at that point before a sorceress can die peacefully they need to pass their power on to someone else. rinoa doesnt get her sorceress powers until the end of disk 2 when edea is defeated for the final time and she passes her powers on to rinoa hmm but you just said "before a sorceress can die peacefully" but Edea didn't die and we visit her later --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886901173] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote>she didnt have the power of a sorceress in her at that point before a sorceress can die peacefully they need to pass their power on to someone else. rinoa doesnt get her sorceress powers until the end of disk 2 when edea is defeated for the final time and she passes her powers on to rinoa</quote> hmm but you just said "before a sorceress can die peacefully" but Edea didn't die and we visit her later</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 09/19/17 3:44:44 PM #5:	OpheliaAdenade posted... She doesn't have her sorceress power at that point. :U She doesn't get it till Edea passes it onto her at Galbadia garden. I think she just literally dragged him off and Squall was too polite/awkward to fight it. id say more awkward than polite since being polite was not part of his character at that point but a teenage boy who tries so hard to keep everyone at distance was caught off guard by a pretty girl who kind of forced him on the dance floor and he ended up being dragged along --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:886901236] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>She doesn't have her sorceress power at that point. :U She doesn't get it till Edea passes it onto her at Galbadia garden. I think she just literally dragged him off and Squall was too polite/awkward to fight it.</quote> id say more awkward than polite since being polite was not part of his character at that point but a teenage boy who tries so hard to keep everyone at distance was caught off guard by a pretty girl who kind of forced him on the dance floor and he ended up being dragged along</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 09/19/17 3:44:57 PM #6:	I'm loving this grasp of FF8 lore and how succinctly we're putting these nefarious innuendos to rest. You're doing doing great, darlings. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:886901253] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>I'm loving this grasp of FF8 lore and how succinctly we're putting these nefarious innuendos to rest. You're doing doing great, darlings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/19/17 3:45:37 PM #7:	hollow_shrine posted... I'm loving this grasp of FF8 lore and how succinctly we're putting these nefarious innuendos to rest. You're doing doing great, darlings. wut --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886901288] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>I'm loving this grasp of FF8 lore and how succinctly we're putting these nefarious innuendos to rest. You're doing doing great, darlings.</quote> wut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 09/19/17 3:45:41 PM #8:	darkphoenix181 posted... yusiko posted... she didnt have the power of a sorceress in her at that point before a sorceress can die peacefully they need to pass their power on to someone else. rinoa doesnt get her sorceress powers until the end of disk 2 when edea is defeated for the final time and she passes her powers on to rinoa hmm but you just said "before a sorceress can die peacefully" but Edea didn't die and we visit her later she doesnt necessarily have to die to pass her powers on. ultimicia simply thought that edea was about to die so she forced her to give up her powers so she could possess a new host --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:886901295] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote>she didnt have the power of a sorceress in her at that point before a sorceress can die peacefully they need to pass their power on to someone else. rinoa doesnt get her sorceress powers until the end of disk 2 when edea is defeated for the final time and she passes her powers on to rinoa</quote> hmm but you just said "before a sorceress can die peacefully" but Edea didn't die and we visit her later</quote> she doesnt necessarily have to die to pass her powers on. ultimicia simply thought that edea was about to die so she forced her to give up her powers so she could possess a new host</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 09/19/17 4:06:25 PM #10:	26_Sandman_39 posted... Stop trying to rationalize FF8's plot. It's only saving point is if the ~~R = U~~ theory is true and even if that were the case it opens up an entire new can of worms plot-hole wise. Just believe the ~~Squall died in disc 1~~ theory and be done with it. both of those theories were incredibly stupid and people who buy into either of them should be ashamed of themselves and the plot is fine for the first 2 disks it doesnt turn to shit until the end of disk 2 but the final disk 2 garden battle is so cool you dont notice until disk 3 --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:886902552] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>26_Sandman_39 posted...</cite> <quote>Stop trying to rationalize FF8's plot. It's only saving point is if the R = U theory is true and even if that were the case it opens up an entire new can of worms plot-hole wise. Just believe the Squall died in disc 1 theory and be done with it.</quote> both of those theories were incredibly stupid and people who buy into either of them should be ashamed of themselves and the plot is fine for the first 2 disks it doesnt turn to shit until the end of disk 2 but the final disk 2 garden battle is so cool you dont notice until disk 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 09/19/17 4:11:11 PM #12:	26_Sandman_39 posted... The 2nd theory at least closes all the plot holes and the dumb shit after disc 1. This so hard. It's hard to listen to people call it a dumb theory than go on to explain time compression and all the glaring out of character moments after disc 1. I usually stick to the actual plot when I think about it but they should have made the second theory cannon tbh. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:886902833] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>26_Sandman_39 posted...</cite> <quote>The 2nd theory at least closes all the plot holes and the dumb shit after disc 1.</quote> This so hard. It's hard to listen to people call it a dumb theory than go on to explain time compression and all the glaring out of character moments after disc 1. I usually stick to the actual plot when I think about it but they should have made the second theory cannon tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 09/19/17 4:13:52 PM #14:	squall dying sounds really dumb btw spoilers is in the title no need to tag --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886902972] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>squall dying sounds really dumb btw spoilers is in the title no need to tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/19/17 4:16:06 PM #15:	26_Sandman_39 posted... The ~~R=U~~ theory is at least interesting and would make the plot a lot better, albeit still riddled with plot holes. The second just makes the plot simple and forgivable. Yeah, sorry. That's estentially what I meant. I should have clarified I meant they should have made it cannon just to ease the confusion and be done with it. The R=U theory is probably the most interesting for sure though. IIRC there's more than a few views on the theory as well. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:886903088] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>26_Sandman_39 posted...</cite> <quote>The R=U theory is at least interesting and would make the plot a lot better, albeit still riddled with plot holes. The second just makes the plot simple and forgivable.</quote> Yeah, sorry. That's estentially what I meant. I should have clarified I meant they should have made it cannon just to ease the confusion and be done with it. The R=U theory is probably the most interesting for sure though. IIRC there's more than a few views on the theory as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/19/17 4:17:24 PM #16:	darkphoenix181 posted... squall dying sounds really dumb btw spoilers is in the title no need to tag But it explains so much more about why the characterization is like a 100% in the opposite direction. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:886903154] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>squall dying sounds really dumb btw spoilers is in the title no need to tag</quote> But it explains so much more about why the characterization is like a 100% in the opposite direction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 09/19/17 4:18:46 PM #17:	Didn't she had sex with Seifer to get his help? --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:886903227] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>Didn't she had sex with Seifer to get his help?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 09/19/17 4:22:05 PM #18:	mach25687 posted... Didn't she had sex with Seifer to get his help? no, seifer was her first boyfriend but theirs was a summer romance and the two broke like a full year before the game starts --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:886903424] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>mach25687 posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't she had sex with Seifer to get his help?</quote> no, seifer was her first boyfriend but theirs was a summer romance and the two broke like a full year before the game starts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obso1337 09/19/17 4:23:21 PM #19:	`Makes more sense than the canon love story.` --- It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war. <cite>Obso1337 posted [p:886903508] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote> Makes more sense than the canon love story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/19/17 4:23:22 PM #20:	yusiko posted... no, seifer was her first boyfriend but theirs was a summer romance and the two broke like a full year before the game starts the great irony his dream of being a white knight is never fulfilled because he ditched his queen --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886903510] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote>no, seifer was her first boyfriend but theirs was a summer romance and the two broke like a full year before the game starts</quote> the great irony his dream of being a white knight is never fulfilled because he ditched his queen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/19/17 4:26:50 PM #21:	wait! is the R = U theory because of Greiver? because Greiver is like Squall's ring and not a real GF but a made up one? but she like drew it out of Squall so she wouldn't need to be Rinoa to do this --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886903729] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>wait! is the R = U theory because of Greiver? because Greiver is like Squall's ring and not a real GF but a made up one? but she like drew it out of Squall so she wouldn't need to be Rinoa to do this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 09/19/17 4:27:59 PM #22:	Obso1337 posted... `Makes more sense than the canon love story.` the canon love story is squall and zell rinoa is just squalls beard but she doesnt know it seriously in the dollet prison it looks like zell is trying to do something to squall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GCnXjgE0fk --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:886903788] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>Obso1337 posted...</cite> <quote> Makes more sense than the canon love story.</quote> the canon love story is squall and zell rinoa is just squalls beard but she doesnt know it seriously in the dollet prison it looks like zell is trying to do something to squall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GCnXjgE0fk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 09/19/17 4:29:06 PM #23:	yusiko posted... Obso1337 posted... `Makes more sense than the canon love story.` the canon love story is squall and zell rinoa is just squalls beard but she doesnt know it seriously in the dollet prison it looks like zell is trying to do something to squall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GCnXjgE0fk So that's why Zell is so obsessed with hot dogs. It assuages his oral fixation for dick. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:886903845] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Obso1337 posted...</cite> <quote> Makes more sense than the canon love story.</quote> the canon love story is squall and zell rinoa is just squalls beard but she doesnt know it seriously in the dollet prison it looks like zell is trying to do something to squall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GCnXjgE0fk</quote> So that's why Zell is so obsessed with hot dogs. It assuages his oral fixation for dick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 09/19/17 4:30:08 PM #24:	hollow_shrine posted... yusiko posted... Obso1337 posted... `Makes more sense than the canon love story.` the canon love story is squall and zell rinoa is just squalls beard but she doesnt know it seriously in the dollet prison it looks like zell is trying to do something to squall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GCnXjgE0fk So that's why Zell is so obsessed with hot dogs. It assuages his oral fixation for dick. exactly --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:886903895] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Obso1337 posted...</cite> <quote> Makes more sense than the canon love story.</quote> the canon love story is squall and zell rinoa is just squalls beard but she doesnt know it seriously in the dollet prison it looks like zell is trying to do something to squall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GCnXjgE0fk</quote> So that's why Zell is so obsessed with hot dogs. It assuages his oral fixation for dick.</quote> exactly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/19/17 4:33:32 PM #25:	so that means them always being out of hotdogs was a metaphor that Zell would never find true love because his lover would always be chasing someone else --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886904082] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>so that means them always being out of hotdogs was a metaphor that Zell would never find true love because his lover would always be chasing someone else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 09/19/17 4:36:53 PM #26:	So are you saying Rinoa literally raped Squall at the end? --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:886904290] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>So are you saying Rinoa literally raped Squall at the end?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 09/19/17 4:37:01 PM #27:	darkphoenix181 posted... so that means them always being out of hotdogs was a metaphor that Zell would never find true love because his lover would always be chasing someone else A theme in FF8 seems to be unrequited love/sexual frustration. Excepting secret agent Ken Doll (who's lost in the closet and won't notice any of his three admirers) and that Land's End catalog cliche (I think assertive women scare him), everyone is so thirsty and none of them are getting any trim. Except maybe Seifer with Edea (eww.) --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:886904298] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>so that means them always being out of hotdogs was a metaphor that Zell would never find true love because his lover would always be chasing someone else</quote> A theme in FF8 seems to be unrequited love/sexual frustration. Excepting secret agent Ken Doll (who's lost in the closet and won't notice any of his three admirers) and that Land's End catalog cliche (I think assertive women scare him), everyone is so thirsty and none of them are getting any trim. Except maybe Seifer with Edea (eww.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/19/17 4:39:49 PM #28:	hollow_shrine posted... darkphoenix181 posted... so that means them always being out of hotdogs was a metaphor that Zell would never find true love because his lover would always be chasing someone else A theme in FF8 seems to be unrequited love/sexual frustration. Excepting secret agent Ken Doll (who's lost in the closet and won't notice any of his three admires) and that Land's End catalog cliche (I think assertive women scare him), everyone is so thirsty and none of them are getting any trim. Except maybe Seifer with Edea (eww.) I thought Selphie finally gave into Irvine and wanted him to show her his long barreled rifle --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886904489] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>so that means them always being out of hotdogs was a metaphor that Zell would never find true love because his lover would always be chasing someone else</quote> A theme in FF8 seems to be unrequited love/sexual frustration. Excepting secret agent Ken Doll (who's lost in the closet and won't notice any of his three admires) and that Land's End catalog cliche (I think assertive women scare him), everyone is so thirsty and none of them are getting any trim. Except maybe Seifer with Edea (eww.)</quote> I thought Selphie finally gave into Irvine and wanted him to show her his long barreled rifle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 09/19/17 4:41:48 PM #29:	NeonOctopus posted... So are you saying Rinoa literally raped Squall at the end? At the beginning, when she pulls him on to the dancefloor. That's what I think the OP is implying. darkphoenix181 posted... I thought Selphie finally gave into Irvine and wanted him to show her his long barreled rifle I was pretty sure Selphie was the one pursuing him. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:886904590] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>So are you saying Rinoa literally raped Squall at the end?</quote> At the beginning, when she pulls him on to the dancefloor. That's what I think the OP is implying. <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>I thought Selphie finally gave into Irvine and wanted him to show her his long barreled rifle</quote> I was pretty sure Selphie was the one pursuing him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 09/19/17 4:47:54 PM #30:	and while we are at it Selphie loves trains what could that be a metaphor for... ~~stop thinking dirty guys, we aren't Sigmund Freud~~ --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:886904962] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>and while we are at it Selphie loves trains what could that be a metaphor for... stop thinking dirty guys, we aren't Sigmund Freud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 09/19/17 4:48:09 PM #31:	Irvine was trying to stick his dick in all the girls. I think Selphie just relented at the end after many attempts lol --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:886904983] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>Irvine was trying to stick his dick in all the girls. I think Selphie just relented at the end after many attempts lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 09/19/17 4:51:56 PM #32:	selphie is the most developed out of all 4 supporting party members all the character development goes to squall and rinoa while everyone else stops developing after the second disk. but the thing is if you read selphies diary entries throughout the entire game it actually gives a big insight into her character and motivations and its a shame that all that information is optional so if you dont look for it yourself selphie comes off as the least developed --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:886905201] in in FF8 did... [t:75792322]...</cite> <quote>selphie is the most developed out of all 4 supporting party members all the character development goes to squall and rinoa while everyone else stops developing after the second disk. but the thing is if you read selphies diary entries throughout the entire game it actually gives a big insight into her character and motivations and its a shame that all that information is optional so if you dont look for it yourself selphie comes off as the least developed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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