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The Admiral
09/17/17 1:13:52 PM
#51:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why are people taking ROD's trolling topics seriously? His gimmick was hardcore anti-SJW last year, and now he's doing this shit for attention.

But I thought I was ROD!


These are both your accounts, and your posts are shit on each of them.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 1:15:19 PM
#52:


The Admiral posted...
Why are people taking ROD's trolling topics seriously? His gimmick was hardcore anti-SJW last year, and now he's doing this shit for attention.

Dude...
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Malcolm_Matar
09/17/17 1:16:29 PM
#53:


LMAO. You think I'm @Horus_Leftfield? Get bent Admiral, you Red Hat troll.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 1:20:31 PM
#54:


He's been saying this crap for a couple weeks now. Does anyone know if it's possible to mark someone for harassment for repeatedly accusing you of being ROD.
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VaniIIa Coke
09/17/17 1:21:31 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

Seems like people support Trump just really, really don't seem to like black people for some reason... They're crazy in support of police, every time a black person gets shot by a cop they try to excuse it, or change the conversation to be about black on black crime...

If you look at the polls, like 70% of them call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization, which is fucking offensive...

Meanwhile they do nothing to help us or even respect us, and then they try to turn it around on the Democrats party with this tyranny of low expectations bullshit.

Like what can we do? We're trying to speak up for ourselves and our rights, the inequality of wealth and opportunity we face is just nuts. But they don't want to hear about it, its like we're subhuman to them. Why can't they even bring yourself to say our lives matter without imagining there's something racist about it?

Just frustrating man.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLYHCy8fXgo

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NurseRedHeart
09/17/17 1:23:20 PM
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TC still won't answer my question
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 1:25:55 PM
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NurseRedHeart posted...
TC still won't answer my question

What
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thelovefist
09/17/17 1:30:43 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
The Admiral posted...
Malcolm_Matar posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why are people taking ROD's trolling topics seriously? His gimmick was hardcore anti-SJW last year, and now he's doing this s*** for attention.

But I thought I was ROD!


These are both your accounts, and your posts are s*** on each of them.


thelovefist. What do you think?


Edit - After reading through the topic, yes it is obvious both are ROD accounts.
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tennisdude818
09/17/17 1:45:07 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
I voted for him, although my support is far from unconditional. I have nothing against black people in general, but it makes some people upset when I say that white privilege is not real in 2017. I'm better off economically than the average black person because I was born into a stable family, not because of my skin color. And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past. Blacks have been sold a story that the only way out is political. If black people continue to believe they can vote and march their way out of their current economic situation, they can look forward to the next 50 years looking like the last 50 years.

Tbh it sounds like you believe black people don't face any racism not because it's the truth, but because that song and dance happens to be the most convenient for you given your race. Maybe you're blind to it, but yeah, being Caucasian has given you more base opportunity throughout your life than I've had. It's the same as being tall. Maybe you can't afford the peanut butter on the top shelf of the grocery store, but at least you can reach the top shelf.

Meanwhile you're resistant to hearing us out because you've convinced yourself we're trying to pick your pocket. We're not. We just want the right not to be shot, not to be racially profiled. We want to be able to raise our kids in peace and give them the same level of opportunity you're able to give your kids. But it seems like you don't want that, because it's all a zero sum game to you, and of we're able to give our kids a little bit more opportunity that means your son or daughter will have a little bit less. It's pure selfishness. How much do you really care about people outside of you and your family? Do you care at all, or is it just a dog eat dog world to you?


The point of my post was to show what BLM sounds like to people who don't buy BLM's premise. Clearly you do buy into it.

I have sympathy for poor blacks who have been told it's my fault that their lives are hard. If I had been born into that one parent crime filled scenario I may have taken the bait as well from bigoteers like Al Sharpton. I have zero sympathy for these Yale BLM protesters who look at the school that pumped up their SAT score by 230 points and say, "we have nothing to lose but our chains!" You're studying at Yale. STFU.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html
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coolboy11
09/17/17 1:54:29 PM
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large swathes of Conservatives view Afro-Americans in the views of a colonizer to the colonized, a semi foreign subculture that should have their influence muted as much as possible to put it bluntly.
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Fecundity
09/17/17 1:59:45 PM
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coolboy11 posted...
large swathes of Conservatives view Afro-Americans in the views of a colonizer to the colonized, a semi foreign subculture that should have their influence muted as much as possible to put it bluntly.

Agree with this
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 2:01:18 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
At the Trump rally yesterday, the speakers were constantly shitting on black and foreign people. Said stuff like:

"The slaves should stop complaining about being targeted by police"

To massive cheers from the crowd.

Do you have a YouTube link?
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darkjedilink
09/17/17 2:01:50 PM
#66:


Bullet_Wing posted...
At the Trump rally yesterday, the speakers were constantly shitting on black and foreign people. Said stuff like:

"The slaves should stop complaining about being targeted by police"

To massive cheers from the crowd.

Source?

I mean, I'm assuming you have a video clip.
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Nomadic View
09/17/17 2:04:30 PM
#67:


Bullet_Wing posted...
At the Trump rally yesterday, the speakers were constantly shitting on black and foreign people. Said stuff like:

"The slaves should stop complaining about being targeted by police"

To massive cheers from the crowd.


No, they didn't.
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SageHarpuia
09/17/17 2:08:34 PM
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Nothing, liberals just like to project their own feelings onto them.
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FrisbeeDude
09/17/17 2:31:14 PM
#69:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why are people taking ROD's trolling topics seriously? His gimmick was hardcore anti-SJW last year, and now he's doing this shit for attention.

Dude...


Addy has a habit of incorrectly identifying people. Dudes that obsessed. He's literally accused me of being a Machiavelli alt, a self hating white guy and a militant black sjw. He's a clown
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 2:36:20 PM
#70:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why are people taking ROD's trolling topics seriously? His gimmick was hardcore anti-SJW last year, and now he's doing this shit for attention.

Dude...


Addy has a habit of incorrectly identifying people. Dudes that obsessed. He's literally accused me of being a Machiavelli alt, a self hating white guy and a militant black sjw. He's a clown

Thanks for the backup man
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thelovefist
09/17/17 2:39:13 PM
#71:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why are people taking ROD's trolling topics seriously? His gimmick was hardcore anti-SJW last year, and now he's doing this shit for attention.

Dude...


Addy has a habit of incorrectly identifying people. Dudes that obsessed. He's literally accused me of being a Machiavelli alt, a self hating white guy and a militant black sjw. He's a clown

Be that as it may, TC is undeniably ROD
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Knowledge_King
09/17/17 5:11:18 PM
#72:


tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/17/17 5:18:55 PM
#74:


IikeKnowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.


I have no idea if what you say is true, but if it is then why are we focusing on petty shit like microtransactions and cultural appropriation?

Proof of that would gian lots of support from everybody.
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darkjedilink
09/17/17 5:19:07 PM
#75:


Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.

A 230-point bonus to SAT's, and you're going to argue that your scores are lowered?

Asians get a 50-point PENALTY, and still do better on average than black people! Despite black people being given the largest SAT advantage, LITERALLY EVERY RACE DOES BETTER.

Explain how that's racist against black people, and not systematic proof that black people have a legitimate problem they refuse to solve.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 5:22:07 PM
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shitty folk be shitty
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Bishop9800
09/17/17 5:33:07 PM
#77:


darkjedilink posted...

A 230-point bonus to SAT's, and you're going to argue that your scores are lowered?

Asians get a 50-point PENALTY, and still do better on average than black people! Despite black people being given the largest SAT advantage, LITERALL




You know that's bullshit right?


http://thecommunicatedstereotype.com/no-minorities-do-not-earn-bonus-points-on-the-sat/
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 5:37:35 PM
#78:


Bishop9800 posted...
darkjedilink posted...

A 230-point bonus to SAT's, and you're going to argue that your scores are lowered?

Asians get a 50-point PENALTY, and still do better on average than black people! Despite black people being given the largest SAT advantage, LITERALL




You know that's bullshit right?


http://thecommunicatedstereotype.com/no-minorities-do-not-earn-bonus-points-on-the-sat/


statements like his deserve a screenshot, lol
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Lordsai
09/17/17 5:41:24 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
Because we don't want a racist president who calls our African American population "super predators."
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tennisdude818
09/17/17 5:42:33 PM
#80:


Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.


Blacks today are harmed by their own high illegitimacy rate, not racists from 60+ years ago. The illegitimacy rate is a side effect of allowing women to marry the state for resources.

So then when you are presented with the fact that Japanese Americans outperform white Americans in spite of internment camps and us fighting their homeland in WW2, you say it's all an elaborate conspiracy to score a "gotcha" on blacks. That level of narcissism is mind blowing. Self sufficient people are just trying to get by. We aren't stacking Wall Street and Silicon Valley with Asians to score an "I told ya so" on poor black people.

When you rely on such a conspiracy theory to support your worldview, maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board. On average, Asian families push for academic excellence. That's the difference.
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C_Pain
09/17/17 5:43:30 PM
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I would answer the OP but I would get modded by the liberal mods!!
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Ghost_Of_Donkey
09/17/17 5:46:57 PM
#82:


Another white liberal pretending to care for black people. You guys are the worst.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 5:50:53 PM
#83:


tennisdude818 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.


Blacks today are harmed by their own high illegitimacy rate, not racists from 60+ years ago. The illegitimacy rate is a side effect of allowing women to marry the state for resources.

So then when you are presented with the fact that Japanese Americans outperform white Americans in spite of internment camps and us fighting their homeland in WW2, you say it's all an elaborate conspiracy to score a "gotcha" on blacks. That level of narcissism is mind blowing. Self sufficient people are just trying to get by. We aren't stacking Wall Street and Silicon Valley with Asians to score an "I told ya so" on poor black people.

When you rely on such a conspiracy theory to support your worldview, maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board. On average, Asian families push for academic excellence. That's the difference.


many illegitimate children are in the household with both parents. stop talking about something you've got no idea about.

my parents weren't married when I was born. many people in poorer communities can't afford for the government to be involved in their marriage. doesn't automatically mean two parents aren't under that roof.
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tennisdude818
09/17/17 5:56:49 PM
#84:


Bishop9800 posted...
darkjedilink posted...

A 230-point bonus to SAT's, and you're going to argue that your scores are lowered?

Asians get a 50-point PENALTY, and still do better on average than black people! Despite black people being given the largest SAT advantage, LITERALL



You know that's bullshit right?


http://thecommunicatedstereotype.com/no-minorities-do-not-earn-bonus-points-on-the-sat/


That blog didn't debunk the article in the LA times. It was about affirmative action in colleges. This affirmative action was translated into SAT points to show how big it is. Whether or not there is an algorithm that literally adds points based on skin color is not important.
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tennisdude818
09/17/17 6:04:53 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.


Blacks today are harmed by their own high illegitimacy rate, not racists from 60+ years ago. The illegitimacy rate is a side effect of allowing women to marry the state for resources.

So then when you are presented with the fact that Japanese Americans outperform white Americans in spite of internment camps and us fighting their homeland in WW2, you say it's all an elaborate conspiracy to score a "gotcha" on blacks. That level of narcissism is mind blowing. Self sufficient people are just trying to get by. We aren't stacking Wall Street and Silicon Valley with Asians to score an "I told ya so" on poor black people.

When you rely on such a conspiracy theory to support your worldview, maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board. On average, Asian families push for academic excellence. That's the difference.


many illegitimate children are in the household with both parents. stop talking about something you've got no idea about.

my parents weren't married when I was born. many people in poorer communities can't afford for the government to be involved in their marriage. doesn't automatically mean two parents aren't under that roof.


So just replace the word illegitimate with "single parent household" because that's actually what I was talking about.
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Taharqa_
09/17/17 6:13:50 PM
#86:


tennisdude818 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.


Blacks today are harmed by their own high illegitimacy rate, not racists from 60+ years ago. The illegitimacy rate is a side effect of allowing women to marry the state for resources.

So then when you are presented with the fact that Japanese Americans outperform white Americans in spite of internment camps and us fighting their homeland in WW2, you say it's all an elaborate conspiracy to score a "gotcha" on blacks. That level of narcissism is mind blowing. Self sufficient people are just trying to get by. We aren't stacking Wall Street and Silicon Valley with Asians to score an "I told ya so" on poor black people.

When you rely on such a conspiracy theory to support your worldview, maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board. On average, Asian families push for academic excellence. That's the difference.


Yeah, 250 years of slavery followed by 100 years of Jim Crow, exclusion from the New Deal, then redlining and housing discrimination, then the War on Drugs didn't have a severe impact on the wealth portfolios of black people.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/17/17 6:16:33 PM
#87:


tennisdude818 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.


Blacks today are harmed by their own high illegitimacy rate, not racists from 60+ years ago. The illegitimacy rate is a side effect of allowing women to marry the state for resources.

So then when you are presented with the fact that Japanese Americans outperform white Americans in spite of internment camps and us fighting their homeland in WW2, you say it's all an elaborate conspiracy to score a "gotcha" on blacks. That level of narcissism is mind blowing. Self sufficient people are just trying to get by. We aren't stacking Wall Street and Silicon Valley with Asians to score an "I told ya so" on poor black people.

When you rely on such a conspiracy theory to support your worldview, maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board. On average, Asian families push for academic excellence. That's the difference.


many illegitimate children are in the household with both parents. stop talking about something you've got no idea about.

my parents weren't married when I was born. many people in poorer communities can't afford for the government to be involved in their marriage. doesn't automatically mean two parents aren't under that roof.


So just replace the word illegitimate with "single parent household" because that's actually what I was talking about.


so... that wasn't you in the bolded part? maybe you can elaborate, then? also, which demographic do you think are most dependant on the state?

did you know the first Black children to integrate into White schools are only in their 60s? who all died and/or what conglomerates no longer exists that made you make that statement about racist from 60+ years ago?

a statement with substance would be appreciated. even respected.
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Bishop9800
09/17/17 6:25:39 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
That blog didn't debunk the article in the LA times. It was about affirmative action in colleges. This affirmative action was translated into SAT points to show how big it is. Whether or not there is an algorithm that literally adds points based on skin color is not important.



Show me the LA Times article
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Glass_Phantom
09/17/17 6:35:46 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past.


No. Like this is factually wrong. Jim Crow literally stopped Black People from thriving economically. Like they literally hung and killed and burned down Black Business Owners for daring to do well economically.

If anything, our SAT scores are lowered and less people hire us. Studies show that factually less people hire us. Affirmative Action doesn't help Black People, it helps White Women. Again, factually.

And those 'demographic groups' were put in place for a reason. There's literal proof that Asians were propped up to specifically use as an example against Black People to tell them to do better. Despite Asians actually getting media help and actual help while Black People get the opposite.


Blacks today are harmed by their own high illegitimacy rate, not racists from 60+ years ago. The illegitimacy rate is a side effect of allowing women to marry the state for resources.

So then when you are presented with the fact that Japanese Americans outperform white Americans in spite of internment camps and us fighting their homeland in WW2, you say it's all an elaborate conspiracy to score a "gotcha" on blacks. That level of narcissism is mind blowing. Self sufficient people are just trying to get by. We aren't stacking Wall Street and Silicon Valley with Asians to score an "I told ya so" on poor black people.

When you rely on such a conspiracy theory to support your worldview, maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board. On average, Asian families push for academic excellence. That's the difference.


Yeah, 250 years of slavery followed by 100 years of Jim Crow, exclusion from the New Deal, then redlining and housing discrimination, then the War on Drugs didn't have a severe impact on the wealth portfolios of black people.
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Knowledge_King
09/17/17 9:04:08 PM
#90:


tennisdude818 posted...
So then when you are presented with the fact that Japanese Americans outperform white Americans in spite of internment camps and us fighting their homeland in WW2, you say it's all an elaborate conspiracy to score a "gotcha" on blacks. That level of narcissism is mind blowing. Self sufficient people are just trying to get by. We aren't stacking Wall Street and Silicon Valley with Asians to score an "I told ya so" on poor black people.

When you rely on such a conspiracy theory to support your worldview, maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board. On average, Asian families push for academic excellence. That's the difference.


Proof:

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/the-real-reason-americans-stopped-spitting-on-asian-americans-and-started-praising-them/?utm_term=.cf529b6b1b44

https://cmhc.utexas.edu/modelminority.html

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BiggLaw
09/17/17 9:16:14 PM
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My lady is Chinese American and she was the first to put emphasis on the harm of the "model minority" game with me. She's a bigger supporter of BLM than me by far. Attends rallies for many marginalized groups.

It's hurt the relationship between Asians and other PoC, and many Asian groups have been actively fighting for change.
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gamepimp12
09/17/17 9:19:03 PM
#92:


So the current argument in this topic is black people are lazy and demand more for less work ?

Is that what I'm reading

Really CE ?
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09/17/17 9:23:11 PM
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dey dook our jerbs!
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tennisdude818
09/17/17 9:26:43 PM
#95:


Knowledge_King posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
So then when you are presented with the fact that Japanese Americans outperform white Americans in spite of internment camps and us fighting their homeland in WW2, you say it's all an elaborate conspiracy to score a "gotcha" on blacks. That level of narcissism is mind blowing. Self sufficient people are just trying to get by. We aren't stacking Wall Street and Silicon Valley with Asians to score an "I told ya so" on poor black people.

When you rely on such a conspiracy theory to support your worldview, maybe it's time to go back to the drawing board. On average, Asian families push for academic excellence. That's the difference.


Proof:

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/the-real-reason-americans-stopped-spitting-on-asian-americans-and-started-praising-them/?utm_term=.cf529b6b1b44

https://cmhc.utexas.edu/modelminority.html

No conspiracy. Facts. No blame. No narcissism.


So when you said "propped up" you just meant that some people pointed to a successful minority and said "see"? I don't see why that matters. I had thought you were saying that Japanese Americans outperformed whites because they were being propped up, because that would have been an actual argument if it were true.
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tennisdude818
09/17/17 9:27:12 PM
#96:


Bishop9800 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
That blog didn't debunk the article in the LA times. It was about affirmative action in colleges. This affirmative action was translated into SAT points to show how big it is. Whether or not there is an algorithm that literally adds points based on skin color is not important.



Show me the LA Times article



http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html
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tennisdude818
09/17/17 9:36:01 PM
#97:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...

so... that wasn't you in the bolded part? maybe you can elaborate, then?


Elaborate on what? That starting off in a single parent household on average puts people at a disadvantage? That obtaining resources from the state / offloading the consequences of bad decisions on others makes bad decisions more frequent? That's really not a very hard thought experiment.

also, which demographic do you think are most dependant on the state?


Per capita? Here are numbers for food stamps. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/.

did you know the first Black children to integrate into White schools are only in their 60s? who all died and/or what conglomerates no longer exists that made you make that statement about racist from 60+ years ago?


I had the Civil Rights Act in mind and erroneously added a decade in my quick mental math.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/18/17 8:55:02 AM
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Bump
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Vindris_SNH
09/18/17 9:04:34 AM
#99:


I don't really "support" Trump in any particular way other than the fact I voted for him last year. I praise him when I think he deserves praise, and I criticize him when I think he deserves criticism.

That being said...
What do people who support Trump have against African Americans?

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally the answer is... Nothing.
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A Novel Idea
09/18/17 9:34:00 AM
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White people just vote to lower their capital gains tax or whatever and the more ignorant ones do mental gymnastics to justify Trump's white supremacist tendencies. Since these voters are mostly white or economically well off they don't feel like they have to interrogate his views too deeply. What a charmed life.
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Vindris_SNH
09/18/17 9:38:50 AM
#101:


A Novel Idea posted...
White people just vote to lower their capital gains tax or whatever and the more ignorant ones do mental gymnastics to justify Trump's white supremacist tendencies. Since these voters are mostly white or economically well off they don't feel like they have to interrogate his views too deeply. What a charmed life.


Fiscally conservative voters believe that when you lower restrictions and penalties on business owners in the U.S. (be it small business or big business) it creates more opportunity for everyone. More money flowing through the private sector means more jobs, more opportunity, more reinvesting, more business growth, and less restrictions on businesses here means more jobs are kept in the U.S. instead of going over seas... Pretty simple and sensible concept.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/18/17 3:36:04 PM
#102:


Vindris_SNH posted...
A Novel Idea posted...
White people just vote to lower their capital gains tax or whatever and the more ignorant ones do mental gymnastics to justify Trump's white supremacist tendencies. Since these voters are mostly white or economically well off they don't feel like they have to interrogate his views too deeply. What a charmed life.


Fiscally conservative voters believe that when you lower restrictions and penalties on business owners in the U.S. (be it small business or big business) it creates more opportunity for everyone. More money flowing through the private sector means more jobs, more opportunity, more reinvesting, more business growth, and less restrictions on businesses here means more jobs are kept in the U.S. instead of going over seas... Pretty simple and sensible concept.

More money going to the top

Less protections for all of us at the bottom
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