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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 11:59:24 AM
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If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

Seems like people support Trump just really, really don't seem to like black people for some reason... They're crazy in support of police, every time a black person gets shot by a cop they try to excuse it, or change the conversation to be about black on black crime...

If you look at the polls, like 70% of them call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization, which is fucking offensive...

Meanwhile they do nothing to help us or even respect us, and then they try to turn it around on the Democrats party with this tyranny of low expectations bullshit.

Like what can we do? We're trying to speak up for ourselves and our rights, the inequality of wealth and opportunity we face is just nuts. But they don't want to hear about it, its like we're subhuman to them. Why can't they even bring yourself to say our lives matter without imagining there's something racist about it?

Just frustrating man.
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Vegy
09/17/17 12:00:13 PM
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I thought it was cause most of dem were racist as fuck
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MakoReizei
09/17/17 12:00:51 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

I think this would apply to all protestors, white or black.
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Sada_Pop
09/17/17 12:01:38 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kga2soqvMF0

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Deadpool_18
09/17/17 12:03:05 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

Seems like people support Trump just really, really don't seem to like black people for some reason... They're crazy in support of police, every time a black person gets shot by a cop they try to excuse it, or change the conversation to be about black on black crime...

If you look at the polls, like 70% of them call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization, which is fucking offensive...

Meanwhile they do nothing to help us or even respect us, and then they try to turn it around on the Democrats party with this tyranny of low expectations bullshit.

Like what can we do? We're trying to speak up for ourselves and our rights, the inequality of wealth and opportunity we face is just nuts. But they don't want to hear about it, its like we're subhuman to them. Why can't they even bring yourself to say our lives matter without imagining there's something racist about it?

Just frustrating man.


Fucking eye roll
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MysticMismagius
09/17/17 12:03:21 PM
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--kresnik--
09/17/17 12:04:02 PM
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Because we don't want a racist president who calls our African American population "super predators."
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:04:55 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

Seems like people support Trump just really, really don't seem to like black people for some reason... They're crazy in support of police, every time a black person gets shot by a cop they try to excuse it, or change the conversation to be about black on black crime...

If you look at the polls, like 70% of them call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization, which is fucking offensive...

Meanwhile they do nothing to help us or even respect us, and then they try to turn it around on the Democrats party with this tyranny of low expectations bullshit.

Like what can we do? We're trying to speak up for ourselves and our rights, the inequality of wealth and opportunity we face is just nuts. But they don't want to hear about it, its like we're subhuman to them. Why can't they even bring yourself to say our lives matter without imagining there's something racist about it?

Just frustrating man.


Fucking eye roll

The fuck you on about?
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Deadpool_18
09/17/17 12:06:58 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

Seems like people support Trump just really, really don't seem to like black people for some reason... They're crazy in support of police, every time a black person gets shot by a cop they try to excuse it, or change the conversation to be about black on black crime...

If you look at the polls, like 70% of them call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization, which is fucking offensive...

Meanwhile they do nothing to help us or even respect us, and then they try to turn it around on the Democrats party with this tyranny of low expectations bullshit.

Like what can we do? We're trying to speak up for ourselves and our rights, the inequality of wealth and opportunity we face is just nuts. But they don't want to hear about it, its like we're subhuman to them. Why can't they even bring yourself to say our lives matter without imagining there's something racist about it?

Just frustrating man.


Fucking eye roll

The fuck you on about?


You missed an entire word, but you know that. You're just trying to stir shit. You don't really care.
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voldothegr8
09/17/17 12:07:13 PM
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Absolutely nothing
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:07:54 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

Seems like people support Trump just really, really don't seem to like black people for some reason... They're crazy in support of police, every time a black person gets shot by a cop they try to excuse it, or change the conversation to be about black on black crime...

If you look at the polls, like 70% of them call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization, which is fucking offensive...

Meanwhile they do nothing to help us or even respect us, and then they try to turn it around on the Democrats party with this tyranny of low expectations bullshit.

Like what can we do? We're trying to speak up for ourselves and our rights, the inequality of wealth and opportunity we face is just nuts. But they don't want to hear about it, its like we're subhuman to them. Why can't they even bring yourself to say our lives matter without imagining there's something racist about it?

Just frustrating man.


Fucking eye roll

The fuck you on about?


You missed an entire word, but you know that. You're just trying to stir shit. You don't really care.

I seriously don't know what you're talking about. Just get out if you're going to be a troll.
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/17/17 12:10:52 PM
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NurseRedHeart
09/17/17 12:13:01 PM
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Why do you assume only Trump voters have an issue with African Americans?
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:15:23 PM
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NurseRedHeart posted...
Why do you assume only Trump voters have an issue with African Americans?

Go on. Please.
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NurseRedHeart
09/17/17 12:16:04 PM
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:20:44 PM
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NurseRedHeart posted...
I'm asking you.

No please, finish your point.
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tennisdude818
09/17/17 12:20:51 PM
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I voted for him, although my support is far from unconditional. I have nothing against black people in general, but it makes some people upset when I say that white privilege is not real in 2017. I'm better off economically than the average black person because I was born into a stable family, not because of my skin color. And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past. Blacks have been sold a story that the only way out is political. If black people continue to believe they can vote and march their way out of their current economic situation, they can look forward to the next 50 years looking like the last 50 years.
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SweetieBelle462
09/17/17 12:22:19 PM
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It's not just the Fam but anyone who is disruptive gets hated on these days.
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darkjedilink
09/17/17 12:24:25 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
NurseRedHeart posted...
Why do you assume only Trump voters have an issue with African Americans?

Go on. Please.

Statistically, Hispanic people dislike black people more than white people do. Same with Asians.
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/17/17 12:24:35 PM
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Um the things you mentioned tc apply to all shitty protesters including Antifa.

For starters black Americans can try distancing themselves from BLM since it's now infested with supremacists and that's not good optics for any black Americans that are associated with them. Start a new movement and denounce all bigots that try to hijack it.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:27:24 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
I voted for him, although my support is far from unconditional. I have nothing against black people in general, but it makes some people upset when I say that white privilege is not real in 2017. I'm better off economically than the average black person because I was born into a stable family, not because of my skin color. And the "historical racism" that broke the black family is the welfare state, not Jim Crow. If I were black and nothing else about my background changed, my SAT score would have been inflated and companies would have been far more eager to hire and promote me. Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

So when I see BLM making political demands, I see a group of people trying to pick my pocket. There are plenty of demographic groups that do better than whites on average even though they faced racism in the past. Blacks have been sold a story that the only way out is political. If black people continue to believe they can vote and march their way out of their current economic situation, they can look forward to the next 50 years looking like the last 50 years.

Tbh it sounds like you believe black people don't face any racism not because it's the truth, but because that song and dance happens to be the most convenient for you given your race. Maybe you're blind to it, but yeah, being Caucasian has given you more base opportunity throughout your life than I've had. It's the same as being tall. Maybe you can't afford the peanut butter on the top shelf of the grocery store, but at least you can reach the top shelf.

Meanwhile you're resistant to hearing us out because you've convinced yourself we're trying to pick your pocket. We're not. We just want the right not to be shot, not to be racially profiled. We want to be able to raise our kids in peace and give them the same level of opportunity you're able to give your kids. But it seems like you don't want that, because it's all a zero sum game to you, and of we're able to give our kids a little bit more opportunity that means your son or daughter will have a little bit less. It's pure selfishness. How much do you really care about people outside of you and your family? Do you care at all, or is it just a dog eat dog world to you?
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LittleScootaIoo
09/17/17 12:29:07 PM
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Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:30:08 PM
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LittleScootaIoo posted...
Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.

What is it about brony alts man?
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Doom_Art
09/17/17 12:32:22 PM
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LittleScootaIoo posted...
Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.

If it's not all that then why does it fall on the black community to change how other people falsely view them
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Malcolm_Matar
09/17/17 12:33:04 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Um the things you mentioned tc apply to all shitty protesters including Antifa.

For starters black Americans can try distancing themselves from BLM since it's now infested with supremacists and that's not good optics for any black Americans that are associated with them. Start a new movement and denounce all bigots that try to hijack it.

BLM isn't infested with supremacists, that's just the narrative shitty regressives have created to try to turn public opinion against them and suppress freedom of speech.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:33:38 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Um the things you mentioned tc apply to all shitty protesters including Antifa.

For starters black Americans can try distancing themselves from BLM since it's now infested with supremacists and that's not good optics for any black Americans that are associated with them. Start a new movement and denounce all bigots that try to hijack it.

BLM stands up for us, dude... stands up for us in a way Trump sure doesnt. And it's not about racism.
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/17/17 12:35:37 PM
#27:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
LittleScootaIoo posted...
Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.

What is it about brony alts man?


Are you just going to ignore all criticism about black Americans and things they can do to gain support from everybody?

You seem to have created this topic with the sole purpose of rejecting any opposing veiws besides the victim veiw.
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Hicks233
09/17/17 12:37:08 PM
#28:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

Seems like people support Trump just really, really don't seem to like black people for some reason... They're crazy in support of police, every time a black person gets shot by a cop they try to excuse it, or change the conversation to be about black on black crime...

If you look at the polls, like 70% of them call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization, which is fucking offensive...

Meanwhile they do nothing to help us or even respect us, and then they try to turn it around on the Democrats party with this tyranny of low expectations bullshit.

Like what can we do? We're trying to speak up for ourselves and our rights, the inequality of wealth and opportunity we face is just nuts. But they don't want to hear about it, its like we're subhuman to them. Why can't they even bring yourself to say our lives matter without imagining there's something racist about it?

Just frustrating man.


Bold parts - their ingroup.
Italic parts - your ingroup.

Now ask the question: Why would their ingroup want to lessen their position and status to improve that of an outgroup?

There is no reason for them to like you - calls for tolerance and togetherness will inevitably fall on deaf ears when there is an ingroup preference - that's human nature. What they have against them is that in some way - they are different, ingroups and outgroups are defined around those differences and anything that lessens the strength of the ingroup is going to be resisted.
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Malcolm_Matar
09/17/17 12:37:20 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
LittleScootaIoo posted...
Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.

What is it about brony alts man?


Are you just going to ignore all criticism about black Americans and things they can do to gain support from everybody?

You seem to have created this topic with the sole purpose of rejecting any opposing veiws besides the victim veiw.

A better question is, why do you think it's okay to criticize "black Americans" like they're a hive mind? Didn't you learn the lesson that generalizing people and treating them differently based on the color of their skin is racist?
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darkjedilink
09/17/17 12:37:55 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Um the things you mentioned tc apply to all shitty protesters including Antifa.

For starters black Americans can try distancing themselves from BLM since it's now infested with supremacists and that's not good optics for any black Americans that are associated with them. Start a new movement and denounce all bigots that try to hijack it.

BLM stands up for us, dude... stands up for us in a way Trump sure doesnt. And it's not about racism.

Demanding race-based segregation and demanding white people give black people their houses isn't about racism?
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muchdran
09/17/17 12:38:22 PM
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How the fuck am I stopping anyone from doing anything?
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darkjedilink
09/17/17 12:39:30 PM
#32:


Doom_Art posted...
LittleScootaIoo posted...
Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.

If it's not all that then why does it fall on the black community to change how other people falsely view them

Because they let it get that way.
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Capn Circus
09/17/17 12:41:28 PM
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Is this question for black Trump supporters, or just white ones?
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Fecundity
09/17/17 12:41:38 PM
#34:


Hicks233 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
If a black person protests in the street, they a nuisance, and they deserve to be driven over... If they kneel during the anthem, they're disrespectful, and they deserve to lose their job.

Seems like people support Trump just really, really don't seem to like black people for some reason... They're crazy in support of police, every time a black person gets shot by a cop they try to excuse it, or change the conversation to be about black on black crime...

If you look at the polls, like 70% of them call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization, which is fucking offensive...

Meanwhile they do nothing to help us or even respect us, and then they try to turn it around on the Democrats party with this tyranny of low expectations bullshit.

Like what can we do? We're trying to speak up for ourselves and our rights, the inequality of wealth and opportunity we face is just nuts. But they don't want to hear about it, its like we're subhuman to them. Why can't they even bring yourself to say our lives matter without imagining there's something racist about it?

Just frustrating man.


Bold parts - their ingroup.
Italic parts - your ingroup.

Now ask the question: Why would their ingroup want to lessen their position and status to improve that of an outgroup?

There is no reason for them to like you - calls for tolerance and togetherness will inevitably fall on deaf ears when there is an ingroup preference - that's human nature. What they have against them is that in some way - they are different, ingroups and outgroups are defined around those differences and anything that lessens the strength of the ingroup is going to be resisted.

This seems like an awfully selfish and transactional take on how society works in a world where the greatest moments of social change have come about from "in groups" showing brotherhood and solidarity with "out groups."
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/17/17 12:42:28 PM
#35:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Um the things you mentioned tc apply to all shitty protesters including Antifa.

For starters black Americans can try distancing themselves from BLM since it's now infested with supremacists and that's not good optics for any black Americans that are associated with them. Start a new movement and denounce all bigots that try to hijack it.

BLM isn't infested with supremacists, that's just the narrative shitty regressives have created to try to turn public opinion against them and suppress freedom of speech.


Horus_Leftfield posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Um the things you mentioned tc apply to all shitty protesters including Antifa.

For starters black Americans can try distancing themselves from BLM since it's now infested with supremacists and that's not good optics for any black Americans that are associated with them. Start a new movement and denounce all bigots that try to hijack it.

BLM stands up for us, dude... stands up for us in a way Trump sure doesnt. And it's not about racism.


If this is true then the media sure is painting a different picture. I understand the core narrative of BLM and I agree with it. I don't see why my black American countrymen/women should be treated with violence by cops.

But when you have people in BLM that are calling for the death of cops and white people. When they shout black power with fists raised. When you have members that have shot cops and assaulted white people, your core message is lost on people.

Regular everyday black Americans need to denounce the racists in BLM. This includes the white racists too in the movement.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:43:00 PM
#36:


darkjedilink posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Um the things you mentioned tc apply to all shitty protesters including Antifa.

For starters black Americans can try distancing themselves from BLM since it's now infested with supremacists and that's not good optics for any black Americans that are associated with them. Start a new movement and denounce all bigots that try to hijack it.

BLM stands up for us, dude... stands up for us in a way Trump sure doesnt. And it's not about racism.

Demanding race-based segregation and demanding white people give black people their houses isn't about racism?

Not what it's about dude. That's just the narrative you've convinced yourself of, based on some junk article Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity dangled in front of your face on the Daily Caller.
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Malcolm_Matar
09/17/17 12:44:55 PM
#37:


Capn Circus posted...
Is this question for black Trump supporters, or just white ones?

Don't tell me you were black all along Capn! Lmao
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Squidkids
09/17/17 12:45:34 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zuagdAF4Is

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NINExATExSEVEN
09/17/17 12:46:08 PM
#39:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
LittleScootaIoo posted...
Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.

What is it about brony alts man?


Are you just going to ignore all criticism about black Americans and things they can do to gain support from everybody?

You seem to have created this topic with the sole purpose of rejecting any opposing veiws besides the victim veiw.

A better question is, why do you think it's okay to criticize "black Americans" like they're a hive mind? Didn't you learn the lesson that generalizing people and treating them differently based on the color of their skin is racist?


I don't think it's ok at all. It's messed up. But you can't deny that many black communities have a problem with gangs, drugs and violence due to those 2 things. Outside help will fail if the community refuses to clean up the violence.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 12:47:43 PM
#40:


darkjedilink posted...
Doom_Art posted...
LittleScootaIoo posted...
Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.

If it's not all that then why does it fall on the black community to change how other people falsely view them

Because they let it get that way.

Reagan and Bush hauled our dad's off to jail for 20 to life for scoring an ounce of weed, and we never had the family wealth for scholastic advantages that the light skinned folks down the block did. But everything's our fault.
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Hicks233
09/17/17 12:53:23 PM
#41:


Fecundity posted...

This seems like an awfully selfish and transactional take on how society works in a world where the greatest moments of social change have come about from "in groups" showing brotherhood and solidarity with "out groups."


And welcome to the real world. Where groups either prosper or weaken - then attempt to adjust and recover.

Society doesn't care about your feelings when it's looking at the big picture. As intercontinental travel has become "easier" - possible, but not readily available to all - some nations have grown more racially/ethnically mixed and at a much faster rate than through trade or pre-industrialisation travel. Before those differences would lead to war.

Now, because the focus is on maintaining global markets there is a desperate and awkward attempt at getting different groups to get along with each other in proximity with one another despite the differences that resulted in conflict then and now.

You might not like ingroup preference in its current guise - along racial/religious grounds but it is what built those nations. Trying to switch how a group defines itself along ideological grounds is going to either require the ideology to be fucking amazing, so much so that people in a position of power will give up their status or you're going to need to hit a social reset switch and build it all again.
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FrisbeeDude
09/17/17 12:54:11 PM
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Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

LMAO DO WHITE PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS
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Malcolm_Matar
09/17/17 12:57:15 PM
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Hicks233 posted...
Fecundity posted...

This seems like an awfully selfish and transactional take on how society works in a world where the greatest moments of social change have come about from "in groups" showing brotherhood and solidarity with "out groups."


And welcome to the real world. Where groups either prosper or weaken - then attempt to adjust and recover.

Society doesn't care about your feelings when it's looking at the big picture. As intercontinental travel has become "easier" - possible, but not readily available to all - some nations have grown more racially/ethnically mixed and at a much faster rate than through trade or pre-industrialisation travel. Before those differences would lead to war.

Now, because the focus is on maintaining global markets there is a desperate and awkward attempt at getting different groups to get along with each other in proximity with one another despite the differences that resulted in conflict then and now.

You might not like ingroup preference in its current guise - along racial/religious grounds but it is what built those nations. Trying to switch how a group defines itself along ideological grounds is going to either require the ideology to be fucking amazing, so much so that people in a position of power will give up their status or you're going to need to hit a social reset switch and build it all again.


Or you know, they could just stop being racist.
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whitelytning
09/17/17 12:58:46 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

LMAO DO WHITE PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS


I don't and anyone that does is ignorant of history.

Affirmative action is a form of institutional racism but it wasn't put there to replace "imaginary institutional racism." Thinking institutional racism against blacks was imaginary is just ignorant or he is just trolling.
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Horus_Leftfield
09/17/17 1:06:50 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Actual insititutional racism was put in place to combat imaginary institutional racism.

LMAO DO WHITE PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS

Unfortunately
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Hicks233
09/17/17 1:07:40 PM
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Malcolm_Matar posted...

Or you know, they could just stop being racist.


This is where you're going to be going in circles whenever this comes up. Why? Why should they stop having a preference for their own group?
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darkjedilink
09/17/17 1:09:13 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Doom_Art posted...
LittleScootaIoo posted...
Black culture is seen as violent and degenerate. It's not all that of course but it's what gets viewed the most. The Black community needs to work to change that image.

If it's not all that then why does it fall on the black community to change how other people falsely view them

Because they let it get that way.

Reagan and Bush hauled our dad's off to jail for 20 to life for scoring an ounce of weed, and we never had the family wealth for scholastic advantages that the light skinned folks down the block did. But everything's our fault.

Maybe your dad should have cared about you enough to not smoke pot.

Clinton's the one who gave triple offenders mandatory life sentences.
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The Admiral
09/17/17 1:11:24 PM
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Why are people taking ROD's trolling topics seriously? His gimmick was hardcore anti-SJW last year, and now he's doing this shit for attention.
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Malcolm_Matar
09/17/17 1:12:11 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Why are people taking ROD's trolling topics seriously? His gimmick was hardcore anti-SJW last year, and now he's doing this shit for attention.

But I thought I was ROD!
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