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A_Good_Boy 09/15/17 9:05:25 AM #1:	https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan/michigan-teacher-accused-of-assaulting-6th-grader-who-sat-during-pledge-of-allegiance Many NFL players have expressed their beliefs by kneeling for the national anthem before games, but when a Farmington Hills student took a similar stand, he said his teacher crossed the line. A teacher was put on leave and is under investigation after he allegedly got physical with a student who refused to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. The student, Stone Chaney, is a sixth-grader at East Middle School in Farmington Hills. Stone had just started his first week at East Middle School, but his family isn't sure if he'll go back. Stone said he felt his rights were violated when he didn't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. "The teacher consultant comes up behind me and snatches me out of my chair violently," Stone said. "I was so confused. I didn't know what was going on." Stone said the homeroom teacher tried to force him to stand during the Pledge of Allegiance. "I don't stand because I don't pledge to a flag," Stone said. "I pledge to God and family." The alleged incident happened Sept. 7. Stone said the next day, another teacher yelled at him for sitting down during the Pledge. "I don't feel safe going to that school anymore because I don't know what they're going to do next," Stone said. His father addressed the district directly during their last board meeting. "It's his choice to sit," Brian Chaney said. "I don't make him sit. And they should respect that." Marine veteran Stephen Stevens sees things differently. "I would love to be able to talk to them and get their side and explain my side so maybe we could come to an understanding," Stevens said. "Because I get they have that right, but I don't believe they understand what that right really entails." "If they're fighting for freedom, they're fighting for us to have choices," Brian Chaney said. "Then it's our choice." The superintendent of Farmington Public Schools released the following statement: "The District fully supports the right of each student to participate or not in the daily Pledge. The teacher allegedly involved in the incident has been placed on administrative leave. At this time, the District cannot speculate about the outcome of the pending investigation." The family is exploring its options. Stone hasn't gone back to school, but they're probably going to leave the district. Pretty crazy that the reaction this little boy gets for exercising his rights is to be slapped around by school faculty. What kind of crazy world is this where a child expresses his rights more succinctly than the adults that are supposed to be instructing him? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:886644384] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan/michigan-teacher-accused-of-assaulting-6th-grader-who-sat-during-pledge-of-allegiance <quote>Many NFL players have expressed their beliefs by kneeling for the national anthem before games, but when a Farmington Hills student took a similar stand, he said his teacher crossed the line. A teacher was put on leave and is under investigation after he allegedly got physical with a student who refused to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. The student, Stone Chaney, is a sixth-grader at East Middle School in Farmington Hills. Stone had just started his first week at East Middle School, but his family isn't sure if he'll go back. Stone said he felt his rights were violated when he didn't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. "The teacher consultant comes up behind me and snatches me out of my chair violently," Stone said. "I was so confused. I didn't know what was going on." Stone said the homeroom teacher tried to force him to stand during the Pledge of Allegiance. "I don't stand because I don't pledge to a flag," Stone said. "I pledge to God and family." The alleged incident happened Sept. 7. Stone said the next day, another teacher yelled at him for sitting down during the Pledge. "I don't feel safe going to that school anymore because I don't know what they're going to do next," Stone said. His father addressed the district directly during their last board meeting. "It's his choice to sit," Brian Chaney said. "I don't make him sit. And they should respect that." Marine veteran Stephen Stevens sees things differently. "I would love to be able to talk to them and get their side and explain my side so maybe we could come to an understanding," Stevens said. "Because I get they have that right, but I don't believe they understand what that right really entails." "If they're fighting for freedom, they're fighting for us to have choices," Brian Chaney said. "Then it's our choice." The superintendent of Farmington Public Schools released the following statement: "The District fully supports the right of each student to participate or not in the daily Pledge. The teacher allegedly involved in the incident has been placed on administrative leave. At this time, the District cannot speculate about the outcome of the pending investigation." The family is exploring its options. Stone hasn't gone back to school, but they're probably going to leave the district.</quote> Pretty crazy that the reaction this little boy gets for exercising his rights is to be slapped around by school faculty. What kind of crazy world is this where a child expresses his rights more succinctly than the adults that are supposed to be instructing him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/15/17 9:07:02 AM #2:	Dammit, Michigan. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:886644448] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>Dammit, Michigan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 09/15/17 9:07:37 AM #3:	A_Good_Boy posted... "I would love to be able to talk to them and get their side and explain my side so maybe we could come to an understanding," Stevens said. "Because I get they have that right, but I don't believe they understand what that right really entails." Nah, I don't believe that mutherfucker understands what rights entail. --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:886644468] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>"I would love to be able to talk to them and get their side and explain my side so maybe we could come to an understanding," Stevens said. "Because I get they have that right, but I don't believe they understand what that right really entails."</quote> Nah, I don't believe that mutherfucker understands what rights entail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 09/15/17 9:08:45 AM #4:	Stone Chaney? Stone? Thats his nickname right? --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:886644509] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>Stone Chaney? Stone? Thats his nickname right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flasbangs 09/15/17 9:10:10 AM #5:	People are crazy unreasonable idiots, I don't know why that kid would tempt fate so.. Guess he should be glad he didn't get shot by some self important patriot. --- "That's the metaphorical equivalent of flopping your wedding tackle into a lion's mouth and flicking his love spuds with a wet towel" - Arnold Rimmer <cite>Flasbangs posted [p:886644562] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>People are crazy unreasonable idiots, I don't know why that kid would tempt fate so.. Guess he should be glad he didn't get shot by some self important patriot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MikeArmstrong 09/15/17 9:10:33 AM #6:	This is such a dumb issue to get mad at. Who cares if a young boy sits during that? The Pledge of Allegiance is basically propaganda anyway. <cite>MikeArmstrong posted [p:886644573] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>This is such a dumb issue to get mad at. Who cares if a young boy sits during that? The Pledge of Allegiance is basically propaganda anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xBloodBrotherx 09/15/17 9:11:10 AM #7:	Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently.... --- The above post is literally and objectively right. <cite>xBloodBrotherx posted [p:886644590] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MikeArmstrong 09/15/17 9:12:51 AM #8:	xBloodBrotherx posted... Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently.... If he doesn't want to do it, he shouldn't be forced to. It's literally that simple. <cite>MikeArmstrong posted [p:886644652] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>xBloodBrotherx posted...</cite> <quote>Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently....</quote> If he doesn't want to do it, he shouldn't be forced to. It's literally that simple.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evolician 09/15/17 9:14:20 AM #9:	What's weird about having tiny children pledge their undying loyalty to a nation when they're to young to understand what that means? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Lavidon/ https://www.twitch.tv/Lavidon <cite>Evolician posted [p:886644709] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>What's weird about having tiny children pledge their undying loyalty to a nation when they're to young to understand what that means?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/15/17 9:15:28 AM #10:	MikeArmstrong posted... xBloodBrotherx posted... Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently.... If he doesn't want to do it, he shouldn't be forced to. It's literally that simple. Everything about school is forcing kids to do things they don't want to do, so that's not really an answer. With that said, the superintendent does say kids have a choice in whether to participate or not, so the teacher is out of line here. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886644740] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>MikeArmstrong posted...</cite> <quote><cite>xBloodBrotherx posted...</cite> <quote>Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently....</quote> If he doesn't want to do it, he shouldn't be forced to. It's literally that simple.</quote> Everything about school is forcing kids to do things they don't want to do, so that's not really an answer. With that said, the superintendent does say kids have a choice in whether to participate or not, so the teacher is out of line here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcolm_Matar 09/15/17 9:15:38 AM #11:	Trumps America <cite>Malcolm_Matar posted [p:886644750] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>Trumps America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Donald 09/15/17 9:15:41 AM #12:	Like or not show respect the people who have given their lives for the freedom we take for granted. --- "Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser." <cite>The_Donald posted [p:886644752] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>Like or not show respect the people who have given their lives for the freedom we take for granted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/15/17 9:17:40 AM #13:	The_Donald posted... Like or not show respect the people who have given their lives for the freedom we take for granted. Better kick some kids ass and really reaffirm the point of how precious their freedom is. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:886644829] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Donald posted...</cite> <quote>Like or not show respect the people who have given their lives for the freedom we take for granted.</quote> Better kick some kids ass and really reaffirm the point of how precious their freedom is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/15/17 9:19:25 AM #14:	xBloodBrotherx posted... Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently.... You defeated your own post. The person you should be spewing this to is the dumb teacher. The Admiral posted... MikeArmstrong posted... xBloodBrotherx posted... Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently.... If he doesn't want to do it, he shouldn't be forced to. It's literally that simple. Everything about school is forcing kids to do things they don't want to do, so that's not really an answer. With that said, the superintendent does say kids have a choice in whether to participate or not, so the teacher is out of line here. And yet there are tons of things that they can't force the kids to do (you know, like join in on prayer for instance). You can't just make a blanket statement like that. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:886644903] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>xBloodBrotherx posted...</cite> <quote>Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently....</quote> You defeated your own post. The person you should be spewing this to is the dumb teacher. <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MikeArmstrong posted...</cite> <quote><cite>xBloodBrotherx posted...</cite> <quote>Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently....</quote> If he doesn't want to do it, he shouldn't be forced to. It's literally that simple.</quote> Everything about school is forcing kids to do things they don't want to do, so that's not really an answer. With that said, the superintendent does say kids have a choice in whether to participate or not, so the teacher is out of line here.</quote> And yet there are tons of things that they can't force the kids to do (you know, like join in on prayer for instance). You can't just make a blanket statement like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 09/15/17 9:25:27 AM #15:	A_Good_Boy posted... Marine veteran Stephen Stevens sees things differently. "I would love to be able to talk to them and get their side and explain my side so maybe we could come to an understanding," Stevens said. "Because I get they have that right, but I don't believe they understand what that right really entails." What, did they just go find some random ass marine and ask him what he thought? What relation does this guy have to the story? --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:886645125] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>Marine veteran Stephen Stevens sees things differently. "I would love to be able to talk to them and get their side and explain my side so maybe we could come to an understanding," Stevens said. "Because I get they have that right, but I don't believe they understand what that right really entails."</quote> What, did they just go find some random ass marine and ask him what he thought? What relation does this guy have to the story?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 09/15/17 9:25:52 AM #16:	The_Donald posted... Like or not show respect the people who have given their lives for the freedom we take for granted. Lmao, really? "Do what we say in the name of Freedom or we'll beat you!" <cite>JE19426 posted [p:886645147] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Donald posted...</cite> <quote>Like or not show respect the people who have given their lives for the freedom we take for granted.</quote> Lmao, really? "Do what we say in the name of Freedom or we'll beat you!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 09/15/17 9:26:58 AM #17:	xBloodBrotherx posted... Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently.... No surprise someone on CE defends this, christ. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 7 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 1-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 1-0 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:886645199] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>xBloodBrotherx posted...</cite> <quote>Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. Stop trying be be edgy like "I don't pledge to a flag!" nobody gives a shit. Except the teacher apparently....</quote> No surprise someone on CE defends this, christ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Donald 09/15/17 9:30:29 AM #18:	JE19426 posted... "Do what we say in the name of Freedom or we'll beat you!" Quote where I said its ok to, "beat their ass?" I said kids need to show respect and be taught why respect should be show. --- "Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser." <cite>The_Donald posted [p:886645359] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>"Do what we say in the name of Freedom or we'll beat you!" </quote> Quote where I said its ok to, "beat their ass?" I said kids need to show respect and be taught why respect should be show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 09/15/17 9:34:10 AM #19:	Physically assaulting someone for excersizing their rights seems pretty disrespectful tbqh --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:886645514] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>Physically assaulting someone for excersizing their rights seems pretty disrespectful tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coolppl Owns 09/15/17 9:40:55 AM #20:	eston posted... Physically assaulting someone for excersizing their rights seems pretty disrespectful tbqh --- _.-=/Got Coolppl?\=-._ =-._\Got Coolppl?/_.-= <cite>Coolppl Owns posted [p:886645772] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>Physically assaulting someone for excersizing their rights seems pretty disrespectful tbqh</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 09/15/17 9:42:33 AM #21:	The Admiral posted... Everything about school is forcing kids to do things they don't want to do, so that's not really an answer. in the strictest literal sense, sure, but you'd be hard pressed to argue as much necessary educational value in reciting the pledge as idk doing your math homework or something --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? http://www.last.fm/user/followthegospel <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:886645837] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Everything about school is forcing kids to do things they don't want to do, so that's not really an answer. </quote> in the strictest literal sense, sure, but you'd be hard pressed to argue as much necessary educational value in reciting the pledge as idk doing your math homework or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mark_DeRosa 09/15/17 9:43:04 AM #22:	Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain --- Steve Nash \| 13\| Phoenix Suns \| PPG: 16.9 \| RPG: 3.60 \| APG 11.3 \| EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif <cite>Mark_DeRosa posted [p:886645854] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twinmold 09/15/17 9:44:44 AM #24:	At this point, whenever I see a situation like this, I think of the most morally repugnant position I could take on the issue, and what a coincidence, that's generally the conservative position on the matter. --- Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain <cite>Twinmold posted [p:886645937] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>At this point, whenever I see a situation like this, I think of the most morally repugnant position I could take on the issue, and what a coincidence, that's generally the conservative position on the matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/15/17 9:44:54 AM #25:	Mark_DeRosa posted... Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain It's literally the opposite --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:886645944] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote>Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain</quote> It's literally the opposite</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyurem-BW 09/15/17 9:45:59 AM #27:	the pledge of allegiance is to the flag and to the nation for which it stands kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal --- dont know why I even have one of these <cite>Kyurem-BW posted [p:886645981] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>the pledge of allegiance is to the flag and to the nation for which it stands kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mark_DeRosa 09/15/17 9:48:21 AM #28:	Twin3Turbo posted... Mark_DeRosa posted... Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain It's literally the opposite No --- Steve Nash \| 13\| Phoenix Suns \| PPG: 16.9 \| RPG: 3.60 \| APG 11.3 \| EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif <cite>Mark_DeRosa posted [p:886646087] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote>Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain</quote> It's literally the opposite</quote> No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 09/15/17 9:48:31 AM #29:	xBloodBrotherx posted... Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways. If no one takes it seriously, then what does it matter if he sits through it? --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:886646095] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>xBloodBrotherx posted...</cite> <quote>Dude just stand and do the dumb ass pledge of allegiance each morning, nobody actually takes it seriously anyways.</quote> If no one takes it seriously, then what does it matter if he sits through it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/15/17 9:49:06 AM #30:	eston posted... What, did they just go find some random ass marine and ask him what he thought? What relation does this guy have to the story? The conflation of our government with our military is wild. The idea that any criticism of our country, its domestic policies, etc. is an attack on Pvt. Joe Schmoe in Afghanistan is beyond just wrong, it's troubling. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:886646118] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>What, did they just go find some random ass marine and ask him what he thought? What relation does this guy have to the story? </quote> The conflation of our government with our military is wild. The idea that any criticism of our country, its domestic policies, etc. is an attack on Pvt. Joe Schmoe in Afghanistan is beyond just wrong, it's troubling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 09/15/17 9:49:21 AM #31:	I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand. --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:886646126] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/15/17 9:50:47 AM #32:	Kyurem-BW posted... kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal If someone said this about North Korea, I would be like "yep sounds about right" It shouldn't be that way in the land of the free. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:886646187] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyurem-BW posted...</cite> <quote>kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal</quote> If someone said this about North Korea, I would be like "yep sounds about right" It shouldn't be that way in the land of the free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/15/17 9:50:55 AM #33:	Mark_DeRosa posted... Twin3Turbo posted... Mark_DeRosa posted... Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain It's literally the opposite No yes --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:886646192] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote>Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain</quote> It's literally the opposite</quote> No</quote> yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/15/17 9:51:14 AM #34:	mortimerjames posted... I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand. Where does the Constitution say you have to do homework? As I said, schools force kids to do many things they don't necessarily want to do. This isn't an issue of rights. However, in this particular case, the teacher was wrong on school policy and should be reprimanded. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886646199] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>mortimerjames posted...</cite> <quote>I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand.</quote> Where does the Constitution say you have to do homework? As I said, schools force kids to do many things they don't necessarily want to do. This isn't an issue of rights. However, in this particular case, the teacher was wrong on school policy and should be reprimanded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/15/17 9:51:25 AM #35:	Kyurem-BW posted... the pledge of allegiance is to the flag and to the nation to which it stands kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal Kids have the right and the freedom to sit. Quit being so regressive. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:886646209] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyurem-BW posted...</cite> <quote>the pledge of allegiance is to the flag and to the nation to which it stands kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal</quote> Kids have the right and the freedom to sit. Quit being so regressive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 09/15/17 9:52:32 AM #36:	The Admiral posted... mortimerjames posted... I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand. Where does the Constitution say you have to do homework? As I said, schools force kids to do many things they don' necessarily want to do. This isn't an issue of rights. However, in this particular case, the teacher was wrong on school policy and should be reprimanded. Pretty sure freedom of expression gets a mention in the constitution. Freedom from homework doesn't. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:886646253] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mortimerjames posted...</cite> <quote> I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand.</quote> Where does the Constitution say you have to do homework? As I said, schools force kids to do many things they don' necessarily want to do. This isn't an issue of rights. However, in this particular case, the teacher was wrong on school policy and should be reprimanded.</quote> Pretty sure freedom of expression gets a mention in the constitution. Freedom from homework doesn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 09/15/17 9:53:14 AM #37:	"Muh freedom!" "How dare you exercise your freedom! >=(" --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:886646280] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>"Muh freedom!" "How dare you exercise your freedom! >=("</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/15/17 9:54:18 AM #38:	A_Good_Boy posted... The Admiral posted... mortimerjames posted... I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand. Where does the Constitution say you have to do homework? As I said, schools force kids to do many things they don' necessarily want to do. This isn't an issue of rights. However, in this particular case, the teacher was wrong on school policy and should be reprimanded. Pretty sure freedom of expression gets a mention in the constitution. Freedom from homework doesn't. Freedom of expression? What? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886646325] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mortimerjames posted...</cite> <quote> I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand.</quote> Where does the Constitution say you have to do homework? As I said, schools force kids to do many things they don' necessarily want to do. This isn't an issue of rights. However, in this particular case, the teacher was wrong on school policy and should be reprimanded.</quote> Pretty sure freedom of expression gets a mention in the constitution. Freedom from homework doesn't.</quote> Freedom of expression? What?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyurem-BW 09/15/17 9:54:23 AM #39:	A_Good_Boy posted... Kyurem-BW posted... the pledge of allegiance is to the flag and to the nation to which it stands kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal Kids have the right and the freedom to sit. Quit being so regressive. and teachers have the right and freedom to send a kid to the principal for breaking a rule and insubordination is against the rules --- dont know why I even have one of these <cite>Kyurem-BW posted [p:886646330] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyurem-BW posted...</cite> <quote>the pledge of allegiance is to the flag and to the nation to which it stands kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal</quote> Kids have the right and the freedom to sit. Quit being so regressive.</quote> and teachers have the right and freedom to send a kid to the principal for breaking a rule and insubordination is against the rules</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 09/15/17 9:54:39 AM #40:	The Admiral posted... mortimerjames posted... I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand. Where does the Constitution say you have to do homework? As I said, schools force kids to do many things they don't necessarily want to do. This isn't an issue of rights. However, in this particular case, the teacher was wrong on school policy and should be reprimanded. School doesn't force kids to do anything though. The only rule is probably don't interrupt the teacher (in addition to obvious rules). But I'm pretty sure you can sit and not do any work all day. You'll just get an F and they'll tell your parents. --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:886646348] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mortimerjames posted...</cite> <quote>I'd like to see where the constitution says you have recite the pledge of allegiance and put your hand over your heart and stand.</quote> Where does the Constitution say you have to do homework? As I said, schools force kids to do many things they don't necessarily want to do. This isn't an issue of rights. However, in this particular case, the teacher was wrong on school policy and should be reprimanded.</quote> School doesn't force kids to do anything though. The only rule is probably don't interrupt the teacher (in addition to obvious rules). But I'm pretty sure you can sit and not do any work all day. You'll just get an F and they'll tell your parents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKFjalfe 09/15/17 9:55:20 AM #41:	Kyurem-BW posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Kyurem-BW posted... the pledge of allegiance is to the flag and to the nation to which it stands kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal Kids have the right and the freedom to sit. Quit being so regressive. and teachers have the right and freedom to send a kid to the principal for breaking a rule and insubordination is against the rules Then maybe the teacher should have done that instead of assaulting the kid. <cite>DKFjalfe posted [p:886646369] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyurem-BW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyurem-BW posted...</cite> <quote>the pledge of allegiance is to the flag and to the nation to which it stands kid was literally saying he is not loyal to the US I can see how someone would get offended but instead of picking him up he should have sent him to the principal</quote> Kids have the right and the freedom to sit. Quit being so regressive.</quote> and teachers have the right and freedom to send a kid to the principal for breaking a rule and insubordination is against the rules</quote> Then maybe the teacher should have done that instead of assaulting the kid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mark_DeRosa 09/15/17 9:55:45 AM #42:	Twin3Turbo posted... Mark_DeRosa posted... Twin3Turbo posted... Mark_DeRosa posted... Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain It's literally the opposite No yes Sure give us your point The flag represents our country, the same flag we wear on our uniform and other civilian servicemen wear. They die for the country which the flag represents. When they die the flag is presented to their family. Maybe it's stupid to some people. But the flag might be the last piece they get of that person. The flag represents what they gave their life for To turn your back on it is gross. --- Steve Nash \| 13\| Phoenix Suns \| PPG: 16.9 \| RPG: 3.60 \| APG 11.3 \| EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif <cite>Mark_DeRosa posted [p:886646386] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote>Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain</quote> It's literally the opposite</quote> No</quote> yes</quote> Sure give us your point The flag represents our country, the same flag we wear on our uniform and other civilian servicemen wear. They die for the country which the flag represents. When they die the flag is presented to their family. Maybe it's stupid to some people. But the flag might be the last piece they get of that person. The flag represents what they gave their life for To turn your back on it is gross.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 09/15/17 9:57:35 AM #43:	The Admiral posted... With that said, the superintendent does say kids have a choice in whether to participate or not, so the teacher is out of line here. Regardless of what the superintendent says, The Supreme Court says students can't be forced to say the pledge. It's weird that any schools still haven't gotten that memo. Kyurem-BW posted... and teachers have the right and freedom to send a kid to the principal for breaking a rule and insubordination is against the rules No, teachers absolutely don't have the right and freedom to punish a kid for not saying the pledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:886646466] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>With that said, the superintendent does say kids have a choice in whether to participate or not, so the teacher is out of line here.</quote> Regardless of what the superintendent says, The Supreme Court says students can't be forced to say the pledge. It's weird that any schools still haven't gotten that memo. <cite>Kyurem-BW posted...</cite> <quote>and teachers have the right and freedom to send a kid to the principal for breaking a rule and insubordination is against the rules</quote> No, teachers absolutely don't have the right and freedom to punish a kid for not saying the pledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CapnMuffin 09/15/17 9:59:23 AM #44:	You don't manhandle kids. You do what my wife, a teacher herself, does. Judge them silently. --- "its okay a lizard ate me and elucidated my fate" - MJ_Max on Dark Souls 3DSFC : 0860-3930-2170 \| NNID : CapnMuffin \| XBGT : Capn Muffin <cite>CapnMuffin posted [p:886646537] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>You don't manhandle kids. You do what my wife, a teacher herself, does. Judge them silently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 09/15/17 9:59:35 AM #45:	Mark_DeRosa posted... The flag represents our country, the same flag we wear on our uniform and other civilian servicemen wear. They die for the country which the flag represents. The only thing that represents our country is the constitution. --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:886646546] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote>The flag represents our country, the same flag we wear on our uniform and other civilian servicemen wear. They die for the country which the flag represents. </quote> The only thing that represents our country is the constitution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 09/15/17 9:59:59 AM #46:	The_Donald posted... Quote where I said its ok to, "beat their ass?" I said kids need to show respect and be taught why respect should be show. Why don't you quote where I claimed you claimed it was ok to, "beat their ass". I'll quote you afterwards. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:886646562] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Donald posted...</cite> <quote>Quote where I said its ok to, "beat their ass?" I said kids need to show respect and be taught why respect should be show.</quote> Why don't you quote where I claimed you claimed it was ok to, "beat their ass". I'll quote you afterwards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mark_DeRosa 09/15/17 10:00:19 AM #47:	mortimerjames posted... Mark_DeRosa posted... The flag represents our country, the same flag we wear on our uniform and other civilian servicemen wear. They die for the country which the flag represents. The only thing that represents our country is the constitution. Lol --- Steve Nash \| 13\| Phoenix Suns \| PPG: 16.9 \| RPG: 3.60 \| APG 11.3 \| EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif <cite>Mark_DeRosa posted [p:886646578] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>mortimerjames posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote>The flag represents our country, the same flag we wear on our uniform and other civilian servicemen wear. They die for the country which the flag represents. </quote> The only thing that represents our country is the constitution.</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 09/15/17 10:00:39 AM #48:	Only in america people take this shit so seriously and i'm like "this teacher assaulted this kid over something so stupid instead of taking him to the side and respectfully discussing the matter like they would do in every other country ever" --- http://i.imgur.com/vsi41Lp.jpg <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:886646595] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>Only in america people take this shit so seriously and i'm like "this teacher assaulted this kid over something so stupid instead of taking him to the side and respectfully discussing the matter like they would do in every other country ever"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 09/15/17 10:01:04 AM #49:	lol wannabe fascists --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:886646622] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote>lol wannabe fascists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/15/17 10:02:07 AM #50:	Mark_DeRosa posted... Twin3Turbo posted... Mark_DeRosa posted... Twin3Turbo posted... Mark_DeRosa posted... Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain It's literally the opposite No yes Sure give us your point The flag represents our country, the same flag we wear on our uniform and other civilian servicemen wear. They die for the country which the flag represents. When they die the flag is presented to their family. Maybe it's stupid to some people. But the flag might be the last piece they get of that person. The flag represents what they gave their life for To turn your back on it is gross. To be clear here, the point I was specifically referencing was the notion that sitting for the flag means that their sacrifice was in vain And my point is no it's not in vain. Their sacrifice for our freedom wasn't in vain because assumptively, we can sit for the flag because of their sacrifice. In some countries they don't have that freedom. Kid is exercising the freedom that they fought for according to you all. So what's the problem? Also, it's kind of funny. I see people all the time saying things like "The flag represents x to this person and y to that person, therefore YOU should stand" No, Person x and person y should stand if it means that to them. No one else has to, especially if the flag doesn't mean much to them. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:886646652] in 6th grade ... [t:75777466]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote>Not standing is an insult to all those who died and fought for this country. That's what it means, sign that their sacrifice wasn't in vain</quote> It's literally the opposite</quote> No</quote> yes</quote> Sure give us your point The flag represents our country, the same flag we wear on our uniform and other civilian servicemen wear. They die for the country which the flag represents. When they die the flag is presented to their family. Maybe it's stupid to some people. But the flag might be the last piece they get of that person. The flag represents what they gave their life for To turn your back on it is gross.</quote> To be clear here, the point I was specifically referencing was the notion that sitting for the flag means that their sacrifice was in vain And my point is no it's not in vain. Their sacrifice for our freedom wasn't in vain because assumptively, we can sit for the flag because of their sacrifice. In some countries they don't have that freedom. Kid is exercising the freedom that they fought for according to you all. So what's the problem? Also, it's kind of funny. I see people all the time saying things like "The flag represents x to this person and y to that person, therefore YOU should stand" No, Person x and person y should stand if it means that to them. No one else has to, especially if the flag doesn't mean much to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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