Current Events > If there's even a 1% chance climate change will impact human activity on Earth,

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wouldn't it make sense to do all we can to change our habits and curb that impact?

yeah

and it's 100% guaranteed to impact all life on earth

What if impacts us by curing cancer?
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no we need companies to make more money
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you'd think it would make sense

but

billcom6 posted...

no we need companies to make more money

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billcom6 posted...

no we need companies to make more money

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g6Vg43nDX0
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Fuck we need bees for anyway MI RITE
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That's the kind of broken logic that made Batman try to kill Superman
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Alucard188 posted...

billcom6 posted...

no we need companies to make more money

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gafemaqs posted...

wouldn't it make sense to do all we can to change our habits and curb that impact?

what if it impacts human activity by delaying the advance of the next round of glaciers?
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s0nicfan posted...

That's the kind of broken logic that made Batman try to kill Superman

Why did you say that name!?
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s0nicfan posted...

That's the kind of broken logic that made Batman try to kill Superman

WHY DID YOU SAY that.... comment?
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s0nicfan posted...

That's the kind of broken logic that made Batman try to kill Superman

But it's how Dick Cheney said we should think about terrorism.

gafemaqs posted...

s0nicfan posted...

That's the kind of broken logic that made Batman try to kill Superman

But it's how Dick Cheney said we should think about terrorism.

Did you agree with his logic? Because otherwise that doesn't make this right either.
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s0nicfan posted...

gafemaqs posted...

s0nicfan posted...

That's the kind of broken logic that made Batman try to kill Superman

But it's how Dick Cheney said we should think about terrorism.

Did you agree with his logic? Because otherwise that doesn't make this right either.

Not sure. A 1 percent chance of a terrorist attack isn't high, but I guess I wouldn't really feel totally safe either.

Rhetoric aside, isn't it a bit hypocritical to cite the safety of America as a reason to be active about terrorism, but not to be the same way about the environment?

s0nicfan posted...

That's the kind of broken logic that made Batman try to kill Superman

Came in to post this lol. Batfleck be tripping
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You have to compare the damage from GM to the damage caused by trying to avoid it. It's worth noting that we keep hitting these inflection points that supposedly mean we're doomed, and politicians propose measures that don't even work per the models.
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tennisdude818 posted...

You have to compare the damage from GM to the damage caused by trying to avoid it. I

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4254681996_27b1ed7ff0.jpg
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But what if you're super old and won't live to see it anyway, and the companies that cause those changes are paying you a bunch of bribe money?
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Antifar posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

You have to compare the damage from GM to the damage caused by trying to avoid it. I

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4254681996_27b1ed7ff0.jpg

The rest of my post that you didn't quote is a good response to that cartoon.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

But what if you're super old and won't live to see it anyway, and the companies that cause those changes are paying you a bunch of bribe money?

Then you're a politician
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If it costs me one extra cent in my day to day life. Then no.
That's the cold hard truth about it all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfAuGSqpn_4

C_Pain posted...

What if impacts us by curing cancer?

I guess if you're dead you technically don't have cancer anymore.
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That's the thing, nobody actually WANTS to stop climate change. To actually stop/reverse it would require drastic, traumatic changes to our way of life and worldwide cooperation on an unheard of level. It's great to go on twitter and rant about "things have to change", but as long as you want to keep driving your car, eating meat, and having an abundance of goods to purchase at low/not-insane prices, the climate is going to continue to change
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SideshowBob311 posted...

To actually stop/reverse it would require drastic, traumatic changes to our way of life and worldwide cooperation on an unheard of level.

Not really. Just stop burning fucking shit.
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Funny how this statement comes from those making minimal sacrifice asking others to make substantial ones. At that point it stops being WE have to do everything and becomes YOU have to do everything.
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lightwarrior78 posted...

Funny how this statement comes from those making minimal sacrifice asking others to make substantial ones. At that point it stops being WE have to do everything and becomes YOU have to do everything.

Well if taxpayer dollars started going towards fighting it then it would be harder to say the everyday person is making "minimal" sacrifices.

ChromaticAngel posted...

SideshowBob311 posted...

To actually stop/reverse it would require drastic, traumatic changes to our way of life and worldwide cooperation on an unheard of level.

Not really. Just stop burning fucking shit.

Ok so by eliminating "burning s***" you just shut down most methods of transportation, shipping and production. Congratulations, the world has come to a screeching halt. Good solution.
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gafemaqs posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

Funny how this statement comes from those making minimal sacrifice asking others to make substantial ones. At that point it stops being WE have to do everything and becomes YOU have to do everything.

Well if taxpayer dollars started going towards fighting it then it would be harder to say the everyday person is making "minimal" sacrifices.

Because we all pay the exact same dollar amount of taxes right? What was the figure some years back: 47% of Americans don't pay income tax yet want a say in how tax dollars are spent.
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lightwarrior78 posted...

gafemaqs posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

Funny how this statement comes from those making minimal sacrifice asking others to make substantial ones. At that point it stops being WE have to do everything and becomes YOU have to do everything.

Well if taxpayer dollars started going towards fighting it then it would be harder to say the everyday person is making "minimal" sacrifices.

Because we all pay the exact same dollar amount of taxes right? What was the figure some years back: 47% of Americans don't pay income tax yet want a say in how tax dollars are spent.

Assuming that is because of untaxable income, you are correct that addressing social mobility would help fix several issues.

SideshowBob311 posted...

Ok so by eliminating "burning s***" you just shut down most methods of transportation, shipping and production. Congratulations, the world has come to a screeching halt. Good solution.

The idea is you replace the shit that burns shit with shit that doesn't burn shit. You don't just "stop"
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What if.... and this is a biggun' - What if there's literally nothing that our country can do vs what others produce? What if self important knobs who can't stand on their own use this as a crutch, but unless you're willing to send most developing nations back to the stone age, we can't conserve enough to make up for an average work week?

We're empowering these nations to harvest polluting resouces to meet demand vs getting it ourself. Could be done better and cleaner and sold by us, but instead we're strangling ourselves in the name of an environment we don't even care enough about to learn more than the talking points of the latest en vogue interpretation of a disaster that's been waiting on the horizon since the late '50s.
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Darksaber310 posted...

What if.... and this is a biggun' - What if there's literally nothing that our country can do vs what others produce? What if self important knobs who can't stand on their own use this as a crutch, but unless you're willing to send most developing nations back to the stone age, we can't conserve enough to make up for an average work week?

We're empowering these nations to harvest polluting resouces to meet demand vs getting it ourself. Could be done better and cleaner and sold by us, but instead we're strangling ourselves in the name of an environment we don't even care enough about to learn more than the talking points of the latest en vogue interpretation of a disaster that's been waiting on the horizon since the late '50s.

Well in my very limited understanding of the issue, there's more being invested in renewable energies in developing countries as opposed to developed ones.

But assuming that you're right and that any progress in the developed world is nullified by the developing world, and also assuming climate change is a real and direct threat to us, isn't leaving the Paris climate accord an unadvised act for the U.S.?

C_Pain posted...

What if impacts us by curing cancer?

We are the cancer.
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