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The_Donald
09/06/17 6:06:00 AM
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Dolla dolla bill ya'll!
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1NfamousACE_2
09/06/17 6:07:53 AM
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They rectified the situation

And supply and demand
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do_ob_tpkillr
09/06/17 6:13:11 AM
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That's risk pay for the pilots and the flight attendants.
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The_Donald
09/06/17 6:22:22 AM
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I'm not opposed to it. Smart business tbh and if people are willing to pay they can charge whatever they want.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 6:45:32 AM
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It's not even close enough to impact flights at all

Capitalism is murderous
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omega cookie
09/06/17 7:34:43 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Capitalism is murderous

Imagine saying something as stupid as this, and not being smart enough to be ashamed that you said it.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 7:42:37 AM
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omega cookie posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Capitalism is murderous

Imagine saying something as stupid as this, and not being smart enough to be ashamed that you said it.

Capitalists are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions

Capitalism was a major motivator in their actions
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The_Donald
09/06/17 8:06:11 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Capitalists are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions

Religion is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions

Communists are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions

Human beings are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of million if not billions.
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NinjaBreakfast
09/06/17 8:10:21 AM
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Wow i love capitalism!
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Cleo_II
09/06/17 8:22:05 AM
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When we were checking in to our Delta flights out of Miami, they were asking for volunteers because of overbooking. I'm guessing they didn't manage to get any volunteers though, because then the flight was delayed for hours due to "bad weather". Even though the weather was perfect and there was another airline leaving at the exact time and going to the same destination, and there was no delay for them. A lot of people had to find different flights to make their connections and then suddenly the delay was shortened. No more volunteer issue and they don't have to pay squat to people who are inconvenienced.

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tremain07
09/06/17 8:23:34 AM
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It's the free market at work. How can you hate the free market unless you're a SJW liberal?
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Sativa_Rose
09/06/17 8:25:58 AM
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Natural disasters really highlight how many people have no grasp of the concepts of supply and demand.
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omega cookie
09/06/17 9:10:27 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
omega cookie posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Capitalism is murderous

Imagine saying something as stupid as this, and not being smart enough to be ashamed that you said it.

Capitalists are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions

Capitalism was a major motivator in their actions

Jesus Christ, what a fucking drama queen. Between blowing everything out of proportion to make your shitty 'point', and finding a way to shoehorn your gender into everything you possibly can just so you can derail any topic into being about yourself, it's no wonder everyone on CE treats you like a joke. Hell, the other trans users talk down to you about trans issues.

Honestly, I truly hope you're just an awful gimmick account, because I really don't want to think that there are actual people that think and act like this.
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Holy_Cloud105
09/06/17 9:12:55 AM
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Isn't it illegal to jack up prices like that because of natural disasters?
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Mist_Turnips
09/06/17 9:14:36 AM
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Lmao, who's that Leigh fake outrage loser?
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eston
09/06/17 9:14:50 AM
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Price gouging is illegal in Florida, but I have no idea if or how that applies to airline tickets. I think that law mostly pertains to consumable goods
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Tmaster148
09/06/17 9:14:54 AM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Isn't it illegal to jack up prices like that because of natural disasters?


Whether or not it's illegal, they won't ever see any real punishment for doing it.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 9:15:30 AM
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omega cookie posted...
gunplagirl posted...
omega cookie posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Capitalism is murderous

Imagine saying something as stupid as this, and not being smart enough to be ashamed that you said it.

Capitalists are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions

Capitalism was a major motivator in their actions

Jesus Christ, what a fucking drama queen. Between blowing everything out of proportion to make your shitty 'point', and finding a way to shoehorn your gender into everything you possibly can just so you can derail any topic into being about yourself, it's no wonder everyone on CE treats you like a joke. Hell, the other trans users talk down to you about trans issues.

Honestly, I truly hope you're just an awful gimmick account, because I really don't want to think that there are actual people that think and act like this.


I've... Not mentioned gender here though?

Like. If you don't have a point, go ahead and ramble. Just know I won't bother to pay attention to you.

As for trans issues, that one paricular one has views that harm us. Especially those early in transition. So she's hardly a good example of trans politics since she thinks anyone who doesn't pass should not get mad when misgendered repeatedly.

But hey. If you think I'm a gimmick then imagine being such a shill for capitalism when it is why there's not going to be an amazon rainforest one day or glaciers, but plenty of garbage dumps.
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omega cookie
09/06/17 9:21:16 AM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Isn't it illegal to jack up prices like that because of natural disasters?

IIRC, it's only illegal to conspire with other providers to artificially raise prices far in excess of demand and 'force' consumers to pay above market prices.

As such, unless Delta and all or most of the other airlines said "Let's all raise our ticket prices by three grand", it's legal, although it's generally viewed as a dick move.

*Disclaimer*
Anti-trust and monopoly laws are a big filthy mess, and although I know quite a bit about them, I'm by no means an expert. I also know virtually nothing about FAA guidelines and federal airway laws, so there may in fact be rules and regulations against that.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/06/17 9:22:29 AM
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At least there are flights. No other economic system would lead to that type of innovation or affordable tickets. The far left would deem air travel bourgeoisie and ban it for the sake of train travel, a much more efficient mode of travel.
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omega cookie
09/06/17 9:24:37 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Just know I won't bother to pay attention to you.


gunplagirl posted...
Whole lot of fucking words and paying attention to me.


Drama Queen.

gunplagirl posted...
shill

And a dumb one at that.
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The Admiral
09/06/17 9:25:12 AM
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Supply and demand, how does it work!!??
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Ricky-Williams
09/06/17 9:43:06 AM
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That's just the cost of full fare tickets in economy. Delta didn't change anything, the normal fare tickets you're used to seeing simply sold out. Call Delta and ask them for Y (economy) tickets to literally anywhere, they will cost multiple thousand dollars.
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NinjaBreakfast
09/06/17 9:45:04 AM
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i dont get why people sticking their fingers in their ears and reciting some v reductionist 'supply and demand!!!' stuff think they are refuting anything in this topic lol
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scar the 1
09/06/17 9:50:31 AM
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To people just parroting "supply and demand":

Is there a good reason why business should prioritize maximum profit over saving human lives in disaster relief efforts?
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The_Donald
09/06/17 9:54:37 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
To people just parroting "supply and demand":

Is there a good reason why business should prioritize maximum profit over saving human lives in disaster relief efforts?

Yes. They're a business.
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scar the 1
09/06/17 9:56:36 AM
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The_Donald posted...
scar the 1 posted...
To people just parroting "supply and demand":

Is there a good reason why business should prioritize maximum profit over saving human lives in disaster relief efforts?

Yes. They're a business.

So, being a business is the perfect excuse to not try and help the society you're part of?
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Mist_Turnips
09/06/17 9:57:23 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
i dont get why people sticking their fingers in their ears and reciting some v reductionist 'supply and demand!!!' stuff think they are refuting anything in this topic lol

Then give us something to actually refute other than the usual emotional appeals.
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Dustin1280
09/06/17 9:58:14 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
As for trans issues, that one paricular one has views that harm us. Especially those early in transition. So she's hardly a good example of trans politics since she thinks anyone who doesn't pass should not get mad when misgendered repeatedly.


It's not just her, I am pretty sure I have seen every transperson on this board (that we know of) talk down to you. You and people who hold your extreme views are the reason transpeople are having trouble fitting in.
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NinjaBreakfast
09/06/17 9:59:27 AM
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truly, the illogical emotive appeals of 'people being price gouged out of escaping a devastating natural disaster is Actually Bad' cannot stand up to the cold calculated logic of 'the free market!!! Supply and demand!!' *tips fedora*
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Mist_Turnips
09/06/17 10:01:22 AM
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Yes, the planes should magically spawn more seats to accommodate the massive number of people trying to leave all at once, Mr fedora.
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Caution999
09/06/17 10:02:46 AM
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While I would agree with supply and demand in any other situation, nobody should have to go in debt because they had to flee their home and pay $3200 to ensure they can live to see tomorrow.

It's not right.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 10:02:59 AM
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Dustin1280 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
As for trans issues, that one paricular one has views that harm us. Especially those early in transition. So she's hardly a good example of trans politics since she thinks anyone who doesn't pass should not get mad when misgendered repeatedly.


It's not just her, I am pretty sure I have seen every transperson on this board (that we know of) talk down to you. You and people who hold your extreme views are the reason transpeople are having trouble fitting in.

Of the other 3 transpeople on this board I know about, I have never seen any of them agree with you.


Oh, zfc? She never even goes in public.

Know why we're not accepted? Bigotry and religious zealotry. But nah, in your book it is clearly people who demand their rights.

Just know that nobody ever earned their rights or freedom by being nice to their oppressor. For instance, how labor unions are demonized yet they're the only reason we got monday off or at least extra pay if we did work.
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The_Donald
09/06/17 10:03:45 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
So, being a business is the perfect excuse to not try and help the society you're part of?

Businesses have no obligation to "help" the community. They offer a product or service and the consumer purchases it. That's the end of the relationship.
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sauceje
09/06/17 10:04:09 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
So, being a business is the perfect excuse to not try and help the society you're part of?

They are under no obligation to do so. They could, but it'd be a PR move if anything.
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scar the 1
09/06/17 10:04:56 AM
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The_Donald posted...
scar the 1 posted...
So, being a business is the perfect excuse to not try and help the society you're part of?

Businesses have no obligation to "help" the community. They offer a product or service and the consumer purchases it. That's the end of the relationship.

That, however, doesn't in any way address the fact that doing so can be very shitty and deserve harsh criticism.
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The_Donald
09/06/17 10:06:23 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
That, however, doesn't in any way address the fact that doing so can be very shitty and deserve harsh criticism.

Criticize them all you want. Better yet, start your own airline and give natural disaster victims free flights. See how long your business survives.

:)
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Tmaster148
09/06/17 10:09:05 AM
#38:


The_Donald posted...
scar the 1 posted...
That, however, doesn't in any way address the fact that doing so can be very shitty and deserve harsh criticism.

Criticize them all you want. Better yet, start your own airline and give natural disaster victims free flights. See how long your business survives.

:)


He never suggested they gave away free flights. Just not massively raise their prices against those trying to leave from a disaster area.
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LightningAce11
09/06/17 10:09:35 AM
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Scenario: Trump forces the airline businesses to lower their prices so people would escape with their lives.

How would you feel?
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Dustin1280
09/06/17 10:10:46 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
As for trans issues, that one paricular one has views that harm us. Especially those early in transition. So she's hardly a good example of trans politics since she thinks anyone who doesn't pass should not get mad when misgendered repeatedly.


It's not just her, I am pretty sure I have seen every transperson on this board (that we know of) talk down to you. You and people who hold your extreme views are the reason transpeople are having trouble fitting in.

Of the other 3 transpeople on this board I know about, I have never seen any of them agree with you.


Oh, zfc? She never even goes in public.

Know why we're not accepted? Bigotry and religious zealotry. But nah, in your book it is clearly people who demand their rights.

Just know that nobody ever earned their rights or freedom by being nice to their oppressor. For instance, how labor unions are demonized yet they're the only reason we got monday off or at least extra pay if we did work.

Sorry but your views generally are akin to trans-supremacy as opposed trans-equality. So yeah, people like you are the reason transpeople are not more accepted since you and your views give a bad name to all trans people.
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dodgefan91
09/06/17 10:12:12 AM
#41:


scar the 1 posted...
To people just parroting "supply and demand":

Is there a good reason why business should prioritize maximum profit over saving human lives in disaster relief efforts?


They're going to sell out all the seats and save the same number of people. Making the prices cheaper doesn't magically allow them to fly more people.
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scar the 1
09/06/17 10:13:20 AM
#43:


The_Donald posted...
scar the 1 posted...
That, however, doesn't in any way address the fact that doing so can be very shitty and deserve harsh criticism.

Criticize them all you want. Better yet, start your own airline and give natural disaster victims free flights. See how long your business survives.

:)

Whose alt are you?
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NinjaBreakfast
09/06/17 10:13:31 AM
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I just hope the people who end up dying because of stuff like this preventing them evacuating the area appreciate their sacrifice is for the greater good of the free market god and that they probably shouldve worked harder in life anyway.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 10:14:56 AM
#45:


Dustin1280 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
As for trans issues, that one paricular one has views that harm us. Especially those early in transition. So she's hardly a good example of trans politics since she thinks anyone who doesn't pass should not get mad when misgendered repeatedly.


It's not just her, I am pretty sure I have seen every transperson on this board (that we know of) talk down to you. You and people who hold your extreme views are the reason transpeople are having trouble fitting in.

Of the other 3 transpeople on this board I know about, I have never seen any of them agree with you.


Oh, zfc? She never even goes in public.

Know why we're not accepted? Bigotry and religious zealotry. But nah, in your book it is clearly people who demand their rights.

Just know that nobody ever earned their rights or freedom by being nice to their oppressor. For instance, how labor unions are demonized yet they're the only reason we got monday off or at least extra pay if we did work.

Sorry but your views generally are akin to trans-supremacy as opposed to equal rights for transpeople. So yeah, people like you are the reason transpeople are not more accepted since you and your views give a bad name to all trans people.


If you think trans supremacy is my goal then I can't imagine how privileged you are if you think equal rights and protection is somehow detrimental to cis people.

If people can't stand being told what the problems are and that it's cis people who have to address them, then they aren't allies to begin with. The enemy of progress is always and will always be the moderate. Idle fence sitters who are never impacted directly for their inaction.
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eston
09/06/17 10:15:00 AM
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I don't think it's any big mystery why they're doing it, but it is still unethical
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Ricky Williams
09/06/17 10:15:51 AM
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Once again, Delta hasn't raised ticket prices. I work in travel, you see this all the time. Other people bought the remaining lower fare economy tickets and all that is left is the full fare economy that companies typically purchase as they are fully refundable / changeable. Delta has done nothing aside from sell their tickets like normal. As somebody else mentioned earlier, you can't just will more seats to exist.
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The_Donald
09/06/17 10:16:07 AM
#49:


scar the 1 posted...
The_Donald posted...
scar the 1 posted...
That, however, doesn't in any way address the fact that doing so can be very shitty and deserve harsh criticism.

Criticize them all you want. Better yet, start your own airline and give natural disaster victims free flights. See how long your business survives.

:)

Whose alt are you?

My argument has broken down ,time to ad hominem.
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scar the 1
09/06/17 10:18:27 AM
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Ricky Williams posted...
Once again, Delta hasn't raised ticket prices. I work in travel, you see this all the time. Other people bought the remaining lower fare economy tickets and all that is left is the full fare economy that companies typically purchase as they are fully refundable / changeable. Delta has done nothing aside from sell their tickets like normal. As somebody else mentioned earlier, you can't just will more seats to exist.

And once again, it's unfortunate that Delta prioritize profit over disaster relief. And also a bit weird tbh. I'd expect companies to do more for PR purposes, and I'd expect compensations paid from the govt to companies (as part of relief packages etc) who do make substantial sacrifices.
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eston
09/06/17 10:19:25 AM
#51:


Ricky Williams posted...
Once again, Delta hasn't raised ticket prices. I work in travel, you see this all the time. Other people bought the remaining lower fare economy tickets and all that is left is the full fare economy that companies typically purchase as they are fully refundable / changeable. Delta has done nothing aside from sell their tickets like normal. As somebody else mentioned earlier, you can't just will more seats to exist.

Then why does the notice in the OP have it listed as a price change? It does not seem to indicate that it is a different ticket, it literally says this ticket was this much and is now this much
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