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Horus_Leftfield 09/05/17 10:10:30 AM #1:	Does complaining about the Trail of Tears make you an SJW? Yeah, it was 200 years ago, only a virtue signalling SJW would complain about the Trail of Tears nowadays The Trail of Tears was evil and people shouldn't forget it View Results A couple days ago a notorious right wing poster and former mod said Andrew Jackson was an amazing president, the Trail of Tears was LEGAL because the Indians had legally signed away the rights to their land by treaty with the US gov't, plus the Trail of Tears was also NECESSARY to protect white settlers from getting attacked by Indians. And also that anyone who says Andrew Jackson was bad is a virtue signalling tumblrina SJW. Do you agree that being against the Trail of Tears is SJWish? --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886057144] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote> Does complaining about the Trail of Tears make you an SJW? Yeah, it was 200 years ago, only a virtue signalling SJW would complain about the Trail of Tears nowadays The Trail of Tears was evil and people shouldn't forget it View Results A couple days ago a notorious right wing poster and former mod said Andrew Jackson was an amazing president, the Trail of Tears was LEGAL because the Indians had legally signed away the rights to their land by treaty with the US gov't, plus the Trail of Tears was also NECESSARY to protect white settlers from getting attacked by Indians. And also that anyone who says Andrew Jackson was bad is a virtue signalling tumblrina SJW. Do you agree that being against the Trail of Tears is SJWish?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 09/05/17 10:11:43 AM #2:	Imagine having to ask if Admiral is full of shit. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:886057190] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>Imagine having to ask if Admiral is full of shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002 09/05/17 10:44:03 AM #3:	I don't see much point in bringing it up, its ancient history, but I certainly wouldn't disagree with calling it evil. --- And as her clothes all tumbled 'round her, I could hear my heart The moonlight shown upon her as she lay back in my bed <cite>PMarth2002 posted [p:886058493] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>I don't see much point in bringing it up, its ancient history, but I certainly wouldn't disagree with calling it evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 09/05/17 10:49:58 AM #4:	It's literally called the Trail of TEARS. Sounds pretty evil from that alone. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:886058731] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>It's literally called the Trail of TEARS. Sounds pretty evil from that alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/05/17 11:03:12 AM #5:	I'm in between here - I can see the argument that guy makes, but every human tragedy can be rationalized after the fact. It was evil, and deserves to be called such. However, I don't see what can be done about it, so outside of just saying it happened, why bring it up? It IS used as virtue signaling by the left, and that DOES need to stop, but to suggest it was a good thing is asinine. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:886059281] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>I'm in between here - I can see the argument that guy makes, but every human tragedy can be rationalized after the fact. It was evil, and deserves to be called such. However, I don't see what can be done about it, so outside of just saying it happened, why bring it up? It IS used as virtue signaling by the left, and that DOES need to stop, but to suggest it was a good thing is asinine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CircleOfManias 09/05/17 11:07:18 AM #6:	It was in the past, but so was slavery, the Holocaust, and the Rape of Nanking. Doesn't make it any less fucked up. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park <cite>CircleOfManias posted [p:886059445] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>It was in the past, but so was slavery, the Holocaust, and the Rape of Nanking. Doesn't make it any less fucked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilove4chan 09/05/17 11:30:47 AM #7:	Are we still talking about this dumbass user that said this stupid shit??? Stop giving him the time of day. --- i actually don't love 4chan NYM - ETI in my heart <cite>Ilove4chan posted [p:886060533] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>Are we still talking about this dumbass user that said this stupid shit??? Stop giving him the time of day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/06/17 4:07:17 PM #8:	Ilove4chan posted... Are we still talking about this dumbass user that said this stupid shit??? Stop giving him the time of day. No. Ignorance needs be confronted. --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886139202] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilove4chan posted...</cite> <quote>Are we still talking about this dumbass user that said this stupid shit??? Stop giving him the time of day.</quote> No. Ignorance needs be confronted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 09/06/17 4:10:35 PM #9:	No. Just to act like white need to apologize for it. Besides this way we have america! Otherwise I'd probably be in Vietnam and you'd all miss me --- I-I really needed this~~ Time to stomp some faces!!! <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:886139371] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>No. Just to act like white need to apologize for it. Besides this way we have america! Otherwise I'd probably be in Vietnam and you'd all miss me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zembaphobia 09/06/17 4:11:49 PM #10:	CircleOfManias posted... It was in the past, but so was slavery, the Holocaust, and the Rape of Nanking. Doesn't make it any less fucked up. This. Wtf does how long ago something was have to do with whether it's evil or not --- http://i.imgur.com/vx054sl.gif http://i.imgur.com/UcazWEw.gif http://i.imgur.com/PF7sTdN.png http://anilist.co/animelist/2070/Zembaphobic <cite>Zembaphobia posted [p:886139423] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>CircleOfManias posted...</cite> <quote>It was in the past, but so was slavery, the Holocaust, and the Rape of Nanking. Doesn't make it any less fucked up.</quote> This. Wtf does how long ago something was have to do with whether it's evil or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 09/06/17 4:15:29 PM #11:	It was necessary. They would have been slaughtered by the white settlers. --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:886139604] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>It was necessary. They would have been slaughtered by the white settlers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 09/06/17 4:19:04 PM #12:	An atrocity is an atrocity no matter who did it or why it was done. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:886139797] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>An atrocity is an atrocity no matter who did it or why it was done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 09/06/17 4:20:44 PM #13:	EbonTitanium posted... An atrocity is an atrocity no matter who did it or why it was done. <cite>Axiom posted [p:886139887] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>EbonTitanium posted...</cite> <quote>An atrocity is an atrocity no matter who did it or why it was done.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/06/17 4:21:02 PM #14:	What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886139908] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/06/17 5:46:11 PM #15:	The Admiral posted... What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was. Dude are you serious --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886144714] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was.</quote> Dude are you serious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightsasori 09/06/17 5:48:18 PM #16:	Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was. Dude are you serious It's best to ignore him. --- "Yare yare daze" ~ Jotaro Kujo "Children are pure, they know who's the strongest." ~ MaskDeSmith <cite>Lightsasori posted [p:886144817] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was.</quote> Dude are you serious</quote> It's best to ignore him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 09/06/17 5:51:49 PM #17:	Evil as a human rights deal and evil from a governance perspective. He literally ignored the Supreme Court to do it. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:886144988] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>Evil as a human rights deal and evil from a governance perspective. He literally ignored the Supreme Court to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/06/17 5:51:54 PM #18:	Lightsasori posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was. Dude are you serious It's best to ignore him. @The_Admiral --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886144995] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lightsasori posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was.</quote> Dude are you serious</quote> It's best to ignore him.</quote> @The_Admiral</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/06/17 5:54:24 PM #19:	Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was. Dude are you serious You're a ROD alt, aren't you? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886145129] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was.</quote> Dude are you serious</quote> You're a ROD alt, aren't you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/06/17 5:55:26 PM #20:	The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was. Dude are you serious You're a ROD alt, aren't you? You seem to have a fetish for trying to figure out whose alt I am. Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886145169] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was.</quote> Dude are you serious</quote> You're a ROD alt, aren't you?</quote> You seem to have a fetish for trying to figure out whose alt I am. Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/06/17 5:58:20 PM #21:	Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was. Dude are you serious You're a ROD alt, aren't you? You seem to have a fetish for trying to figure out whose alt I am. Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing I have no interest in responding gimmicky shitposters who need to use multiple alts in every topic. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886145303] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was.</quote> Dude are you serious</quote> You're a ROD alt, aren't you?</quote> You seem to have a fetish for trying to figure out whose alt I am. Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> I have no interest in responding gimmicky shitposters who need to use multiple alts in every topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 09/06/17 5:58:39 PM #22:	Wow Admiral has gone all in on the gimmick hasn't he --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:886145324] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>Wow Admiral has gone all in on the gimmick hasn't he</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/06/17 6:02:25 PM #23:	Horus_Leftfield posted... Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886145543] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 09/06/17 6:03:38 PM #24:	Literally like asking if condemning the Holocaust is SJWism. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:886145603] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>Literally like asking if condemning the Holocaust is SJWism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 09/06/17 6:06:24 PM #25:	No, it's being a realist and a decent human being. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:886145744] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>No, it's being a realist and a decent human being.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 09/06/17 6:11:07 PM #26:	The Admiral posted... What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was. --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:886145976] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What percent of CE actually thinks the Trail of Tears was a massacre? Most of you seem to just be having an emotional reaction to the name and have no idea what the event was.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/06/17 6:11:55 PM #27:	The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is. The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is? --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886146014] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is.</quote> The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/06/17 6:13:34 PM #28:	Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is. The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is? Actually, you're going to describe for us what you think it is. You made this topic, and you think it was "genocide" and "evil," so go ahead, tell us in specific (i.e. non-emotional) words what actually happened. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886146106] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is.</quote> The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is?</quote> Actually, you're going to describe for us what you think it is. You made this topic, and you think it was "genocide" and "evil," so go ahead, tell us in specific (i.e. non-emotional) words what actually happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/06/17 6:18:55 PM #29:	The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is. The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is? Actually, you're going to describe for us what you think it is. You made this topic, and you think it was "genocide" and "evil," so go ahead, tell us in specific (i.e. non-emotional) words what actually happened. The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation. --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886146430] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is.</quote> The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is?</quote> Actually, you're going to describe for us what you think it is. You made this topic, and you think it was "genocide" and "evil," so go ahead, tell us in specific (i.e. non-emotional) words what actually happened.</quote> The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/06/17 6:21:17 PM #30:	Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is. The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is? Don't you know there are completely acceptable reasons for the military to forcibly march natives across the country, having no care for how it destroyed them. Even if there wasn't, literally any bad thing that happened more than 5 years ago was just a product of the time and can't be judged by modern liberal standards. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:886146544] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is.</quote> The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is?</quote> Don't you know there are completely acceptable reasons for the military to forcibly march natives across the country, having no care for how it destroyed them. Even if there wasn't, literally any bad thing that happened more than 5 years ago was just a product of the time and can't be judged by modern liberal standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 09/06/17 6:23:29 PM #31:	Naw fucked up shit is fucked up....now holding currently living humans responsible for it is but..... --- Put your grasses on... <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:886146669] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>Naw fucked up shit is fucked up....now holding currently living humans responsible for it is but.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 09/06/17 6:25:22 PM #32:	im pretty sure the trail of tears was when moses led the Israelites across the united states to freedom or something. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:886146771] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>im pretty sure the trail of tears was when moses led the Israelites across the united states to freedom or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 09/06/17 6:27:48 PM #33:	Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is. The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is? Actually, you're going to describe for us what you think it is. You made this topic, and you think it was "genocide" and "evil," so go ahead, tell us in specific (i.e. non-emotional) words what actually happened. The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation. Now explain how that is genocide --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:886146894] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is.</quote> The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is?</quote> Actually, you're going to describe for us what you think it is. You made this topic, and you think it was "genocide" and "evil," so go ahead, tell us in specific (i.e. non-emotional) words what actually happened.</quote> The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation.</quote> Now explain how that is genocide</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 09/06/17 6:29:07 PM #34:	glitteringfairy posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is. The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is? Actually, you're going to describe for us what you think it is. You made this topic, and you think it was "genocide" and "evil," so go ahead, tell us in specific (i.e. non-emotional) words what actually happened. The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation. Now explain how that is genocide Well the blankets for one.... --- Put your grasses on... <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:886146967] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile you just hand waive Indian genocide like it's nothing</quote> BTW, this is what I'm talking. This guy has no idea what the Trail of Tears is, yet he makes an outrage topic hoping you'll react emotionally like he is.</quote> The fuck do you think the Trail of Tears is?</quote> Actually, you're going to describe for us what you think it is. You made this topic, and you think it was "genocide" and "evil," so go ahead, tell us in specific (i.e. non-emotional) words what actually happened.</quote> The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation.</quote> Now explain how that is genocide</quote> Well the blankets for one....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/06/17 6:34:55 PM #35:	Horus_Leftfield posted... The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation. Already you're getting a bit closer to being accurate. We've gone from implying a slaughter -- "genocide" and "Holocaust" -- to recognizing that most of the Indians died from external conditions during the trek to Oklahoma. What you're leaving out is that the land the Cherokee were being "forced to leave" was no longer theirs. It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota. Many Cherokee did not respect this treaty, and tensions between them and the settlers reached the point where there would have been mass violence. There was no way to avoid one side being killed, and it was most likely going to be the American frontier settlers at the time. Jackson then forced the Cherokee off the land in accordance with the treaty in the interest of protecting those American lives. The deaths that occurred during the trail were due to disease and starvation, not brutality by the Americans. You can debate if taking land was "evil" or not, but you'd have a hard case to make since this is what the Cherokee and other tribes had been doing before the European colonists arrived -- fighting with each other and taking land when their territories started to encroach. This was the period of world history where Rule of Conquest was accepted on every continent. If the Americans were "evil" for doing that, so were the Cherokee and people of every other nation that exists today. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886147286] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation.</quote> Already you're getting a bit closer to being accurate. We've gone from implying a slaughter -- "genocide" and "Holocaust" -- to recognizing that most of the Indians died from external conditions during the trek to Oklahoma. What you're leaving out is that the land the Cherokee were being "forced to leave" was no longer theirs. It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota. Many Cherokee did not respect this treaty, and tensions between them and the settlers reached the point where there would have been mass violence. There was no way to avoid one side being killed, and it was most likely going to be the American frontier settlers at the time. Jackson then forced the Cherokee off the land in accordance with the treaty in the interest of protecting those American lives. The deaths that occurred during the trail were due to disease and starvation, not brutality by the Americans. You can debate if taking land was "evil" or not, but you'd have a hard case to make since this is what the Cherokee and other tribes had been doing before the European colonists arrived -- fighting with each other and taking land when their territories started to encroach. This was the period of world history where Rule of Conquest was accepted on every continent. If the Americans were "evil" for doing that, so were the Cherokee and people of every other nation that exists today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/06/17 6:36:33 PM #36:	ZeroX91 posted... Well the blankets for one.... ...were given out during Siege of Fort Pitt, 60 years before what we're talking about. Literally nothing to do with the Trail of Tears. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886147387] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZeroX91 posted...</cite> <quote>Well the blankets for one....</quote> ...were given out during Siege of Fort Pitt, 60 years before what we're talking about. Literally nothing to do with the Trail of Tears.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 09/06/17 6:39:57 PM #37:	The Admiral posted... ZeroX91 posted... Well the blankets for one.... ...were given out during Siege of Fort Pitt, 60 years before what we're talking about. Literally nothing to do with the Trail of Tears. Manifest Destiny Trail of Tears potato poetaughto --- Put your grasses on... <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:886147559] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZeroX91 posted...</cite> <quote>Well the blankets for one....</quote> ...were given out during Siege of Fort Pitt, 60 years before what we're talking about. Literally nothing to do with the Trail of Tears.</quote> Manifest Destiny Trail of Tears potato poetaughto</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 09/06/17 6:42:38 PM #38:	The Admiral posted... It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota You do realize that the US Government dealt with a small minority of Cherokees not even in power to broker that deal right? --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:886147713] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota</quote> You do realize that the US Government dealt with a small minority of Cherokees not even in power to broker that deal right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 09/06/17 7:01:10 PM #39:	The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation. Already you're getting a bit closer to being accurate. We've gone from implying a slaughter -- "genocide" and "Holocaust" -- to recognizing that most of the Indians died from external conditions during the trek to Oklahoma. What you're leaving out is that the land the Cherokee were being "forced to leave" was no longer theirs. It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota. Many Cherokee did not respect this treaty, and tensions between them and the settlers reached the point where there would have been mass violence. There was no way to avoid one side being killed, and it was most likely going to be the American frontier settlers at the time. Jackson then forced the Cherokee off the land in accordance with the treaty in the interest of protecting those American lives. The deaths that occurred during the trail were due to disease and starvation, not brutality by the Americans. You can debate if taking land was "evil" or not, but you'd have a hard case to make since this is what the Cherokee and other tribes had been doing before the European colonists arrived -- fighting with each other and taking land when their territories started to encroach. This was the period of world history where Rule of Conquest was accepted on every continent. If the Americans were "evil" for doing that, so were the Cherokee and people of every other nation that exists today. Most don't realize this because they aren't taught history anymore. Only sensationalism and that white people were very, very bad. Everyone else was very good. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:886148664] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation.</quote> Already you're getting a bit closer to being accurate. We've gone from implying a slaughter -- "genocide" and "Holocaust" -- to recognizing that most of the Indians died from external conditions during the trek to Oklahoma. What you're leaving out is that the land the Cherokee were being "forced to leave" was no longer theirs. It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota. Many Cherokee did not respect this treaty, and tensions between them and the settlers reached the point where there would have been mass violence. There was no way to avoid one side being killed, and it was most likely going to be the American frontier settlers at the time. Jackson then forced the Cherokee off the land in accordance with the treaty in the interest of protecting those American lives. The deaths that occurred during the trail were due to disease and starvation, not brutality by the Americans. You can debate if taking land was "evil" or not, but you'd have a hard case to make since this is what the Cherokee and other tribes had been doing before the European colonists arrived -- fighting with each other and taking land when their territories started to encroach. This was the period of world history where Rule of Conquest was accepted on every continent. If the Americans were "evil" for doing that, so were the Cherokee and people of every other nation that exists today.</quote> Most don't realize this because they aren't taught history anymore. Only sensationalism and that white people were very, very bad. Everyone else was very good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/06/17 7:03:28 PM #40:	Capn Circus posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation. Already you're getting a bit closer to being accurate. We've gone from implying a slaughter -- "genocide" and "Holocaust" -- to recognizing that most of the Indians died from external conditions during the trek to Oklahoma. What you're leaving out is that the land the Cherokee were being "forced to leave" was no longer theirs. It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota. Many Cherokee did not respect this treaty, and tensions between them and the settlers reached the point where there would have been mass violence. There was no way to avoid one side being killed, and it was most likely going to be the American frontier settlers at the time. Jackson then forced the Cherokee off the land in accordance with the treaty in the interest of protecting those American lives. The deaths that occurred during the trail were due to disease and starvation, not brutality by the Americans. You can debate if taking land was "evil" or not, but you'd have a hard case to make since this is what the Cherokee and other tribes had been doing before the European colonists arrived -- fighting with each other and taking land when their territories started to encroach. This was the period of world history where Rule of Conquest was accepted on every continent. If the Americans were "evil" for doing that, so were the Cherokee and people of every other nation that exists today. Most don't realize this because they aren't taught history anymore. Only sensationalism and that white people were very, very bad. Everyone else was very good. Says one of the proponents of whitewashing history. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:886148781] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation.</quote> Already you're getting a bit closer to being accurate. We've gone from implying a slaughter -- "genocide" and "Holocaust" -- to recognizing that most of the Indians died from external conditions during the trek to Oklahoma. What you're leaving out is that the land the Cherokee were being "forced to leave" was no longer theirs. It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota. Many Cherokee did not respect this treaty, and tensions between them and the settlers reached the point where there would have been mass violence. There was no way to avoid one side being killed, and it was most likely going to be the American frontier settlers at the time. Jackson then forced the Cherokee off the land in accordance with the treaty in the interest of protecting those American lives. The deaths that occurred during the trail were due to disease and starvation, not brutality by the Americans. You can debate if taking land was "evil" or not, but you'd have a hard case to make since this is what the Cherokee and other tribes had been doing before the European colonists arrived -- fighting with each other and taking land when their territories started to encroach. This was the period of world history where Rule of Conquest was accepted on every continent. If the Americans were "evil" for doing that, so were the Cherokee and people of every other nation that exists today.</quote> Most don't realize this because they aren't taught history anymore. Only sensationalism and that white people were very, very bad. Everyone else was very good.</quote> Says one of the proponents of whitewashing history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 09/06/17 7:42:40 PM #41:	Capn Circus posted... The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation. Already you're getting a bit closer to being accurate. We've gone from implying a slaughter -- "genocide" and "Holocaust" -- to recognizing that most of the Indians died from external conditions during the trek to Oklahoma. What you're leaving out is that the land the Cherokee were being "forced to leave" was no longer theirs. It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota. Many Cherokee did not respect this treaty, and tensions between them and the settlers reached the point where there would have been mass violence. There was no way to avoid one side being killed, and it was most likely going to be the American frontier settlers at the time. Jackson then forced the Cherokee off the land in accordance with the treaty in the interest of protecting those American lives. The deaths that occurred during the trail were due to disease and starvation, not brutality by the Americans. You can debate if taking land was "evil" or not, but you'd have a hard case to make since this is what the Cherokee and other tribes had been doing before the European colonists arrived -- fighting with each other and taking land when their territories started to encroach. This was the period of world history where Rule of Conquest was accepted on every continent. If the Americans were "evil" for doing that, so were the Cherokee and people of every other nation that exists today. Most don't realize this because they aren't taught history anymore. Only sensationalism and that white people were very, very bad. Everyone else was very good. I would like proof that the majority of schools (over 50%) in the US teach that "White people were very very bad". Right now, I remember Texas changing textbooks to omit mention of the KKK and refer to slaves as "workers brought over"... <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:886150914] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>The forced relocation of Native Americans from their own country, the land where their ancestors were buried. They were made to march 1000 miles overland, at gunpoint, without enough food or clothing, which resulted in tens of thousands of men women and children dying of exposure, disease, and starvation.</quote> Already you're getting a bit closer to being accurate. We've gone from implying a slaughter -- "genocide" and "Holocaust" -- to recognizing that most of the Indians died from external conditions during the trek to Oklahoma. What you're leaving out is that the land the Cherokee were being "forced to leave" was no longer theirs. It was given to the Americans in a Treaty of New Echota. Many Cherokee did not respect this treaty, and tensions between them and the settlers reached the point where there would have been mass violence. There was no way to avoid one side being killed, and it was most likely going to be the American frontier settlers at the time. Jackson then forced the Cherokee off the land in accordance with the treaty in the interest of protecting those American lives. The deaths that occurred during the trail were due to disease and starvation, not brutality by the Americans. You can debate if taking land was "evil" or not, but you'd have a hard case to make since this is what the Cherokee and other tribes had been doing before the European colonists arrived -- fighting with each other and taking land when their territories started to encroach. This was the period of world history where Rule of Conquest was accepted on every continent. If the Americans were "evil" for doing that, so were the Cherokee and people of every other nation that exists today.</quote> Most don't realize this because they aren't taught history anymore. Only sensationalism and that white people were very, very bad. Everyone else was very good.</quote> I would like proof that the majority of schools (over 50%) in the US teach that "White people were very very bad". Right now, I remember Texas changing textbooks to omit mention of the KKK and refer to slaves as "workers brought over"...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/06/17 7:44:32 PM #42:	You are literally defending the evil imperialist treaties the government made to cheat the Indians out of their land. --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886151035] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>You are literally defending the evil imperialist treaties the government made to cheat the Indians out of their land.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsYourFault 09/06/17 7:46:05 PM #43:	ask these shit brains if the Bataan death march was ok. I'd fucking LUUUUUV to hear their moronic answer. <cite>ItsYourFault posted [p:886151130] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote>ask these shit brains if the Bataan death march was ok. I'd fucking LUUUUUV to hear their moronic answer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/06/17 7:48:04 PM #44:	ItsYourFault posted... ask these shit brains if the Bataan death march was ok. I'd fucking LUUUUUV to hear their moronic answer. Lol --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886151235] in Do you thi... [t:75743422]...</cite> <quote><cite>ItsYourFault posted...</cite> <quote>ask these shit brains if the Bataan death march was ok. I'd fucking LUUUUUV to hear their moronic answer.</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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