Current Events > Are you accepting and supportive of transgender people?

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Mist_Turnips
09/04/17 11:37:23 AM
#52:


No. I grew out of playing along with make believe after I was 5. This country is sad.
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LightningAce11
09/04/17 11:38:42 AM
#53:


Mist_Turnips posted...
No. I grew out of playing along with make believe after I was 5. This country is sad.

And yet you believe in god.
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MabusIncarnate
09/04/17 11:38:51 AM
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It doesn't bother me either way, so I suppose I do. People can be whoever they want to be and do whatever they want with their lives, that's their business and I don't have the right to tell anyone otherwise.
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EdgeMaster
09/04/17 11:39:09 AM
#55:


Mist_Turnips posted...
No. I grew out of playing along with make believe after I was 5. This country is sad.


Lol. Even when playing make believe I came home to a little tikes fortress with my wife making dinner after being an astronaut, firefighter, or cowboy that day.
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--kresnik--
09/04/17 11:40:02 AM
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Flasbangs posted...
Not really. Not against them, but I don't care enough to be supportive.

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--kresnik--
09/04/17 11:41:11 AM
#57:


I treat individuals how they treat me. With that said, I'm not in favor of any kind of special treatment. I'm strongly against using government funds to pay for this, under ANY circumstances.
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Metro2
09/04/17 11:43:18 AM
#58:


^Healthcare shouldn't discriminate. Trans people want to live happy healthy lives just like anyone else.
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Mist_Turnips
09/04/17 11:46:33 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Mist_Turnips posted...
No. I grew out of playing along with make believe after I was 5. This country is sad.

And yet you believe in god.

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JosefuJustice11
09/04/17 12:00:43 PM
#60:


Yes, of course I accept them and support them.
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BarneyBosco
09/04/17 12:01:24 PM
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I'm fine with some LGBT people. A lesbian couple I work with have normal kids between them. A gay guy I know, his son (14) claims he's gay like his dad and the daughter (12) claims to be trans. They both live with him because the mother is a deadbeat (as far as I am told). But because of people like him it makes me reject the whole thing altogether, especially since it has become a fad. I see so many gay and trans kids running around when all they need is proper parenting.
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WizardPowers
09/04/17 12:06:04 PM
#62:


Kind of. You wanna transition as an adult then I'll be nice and accepting.

You want to give small children drugs so they can transition just because "well I clearly remember what I thought about gender at that age so it'll be good for them" is where I'll tell you to fuck off
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MuayThai85
09/04/17 12:08:32 PM
#63:


Metro2 posted...
^Healthcare shouldn't discriminate. Trans people want to live happy healthy lives just like anyone else.


I consider it cosmetic and the government shouldn't cover cosmetic surgery.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/04/17 12:13:24 PM
#64:


Brother_Gilbert posted...
I'll support them if they believe Jesus is their savior.


lol what is this silliness?
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CircleOfManias
09/04/17 12:21:15 PM
#65:


MuayThai85 posted...
Metro2 posted...
^Healthcare shouldn't discriminate. Trans people want to live happy healthy lives just like anyone else.


I consider it cosmetic and the government shouldn't cover cosmetic surgery.


Given the suicide rates pre- and post-transition, it's lifesaving surgery, not cosmetic.
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ThanksUglyGod
09/04/17 12:24:48 PM
#68:


Well I'm not a shitty person, so yes.
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LinksLiege
09/04/17 12:28:22 PM
#69:


Ultimately I'm not going to do anything against anyone regardless of my feelings so, whatever. Having said that -

Everything I've heard, seen, and read on gender dysphoria leads me to believe there is biological legitimacy to MtF and FtM transgender people, so I have zero objections there. My skepticism lies with things outside of that, because I haven't seen any good arguments for things like bigender, agender, gender-fluidity, etc. beyond "That's how they feel." That's a poor reason to accept it without question; some people are insane and feel like they're something they plainly aren't, like a dog or a chair or something. I want concrete biological reasoning. Like I said though, I'm not going to harass them about it because, in the end, it doesn't affect me.
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ChaoticKnuckles
09/04/17 12:29:09 PM
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Yeah. I don't have any reason not to be.
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DreadedWave
09/04/17 12:29:21 PM
#71:


Literally no reason not to be.
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nemu
09/04/17 12:36:44 PM
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Yes, they should be allowed to exist as they are, and laws should exist to protect their rights. I'm fine with whatever surgery they want on a personal level, but I'm not really sure if it's something that should medically recommended as a treatment. I'm not fine with the people who want to redefine gender and sex to suit a minority view and bash anyone who goes against it. Transgender people should not be allowed to play any segregated professional sport under their identified gender, as that undermines the entire point of segregating by gender. There is nothing wrong with those who would date transgenders, but the minority of people acting like any regular straight/gay person should just include such people in their dating pool because "they are what they say they are" is just silly.
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_Squirtle_
09/04/17 12:51:43 PM
#74:


CircleOfManias posted...
Given the suicide rates pre- and post-transition, it's lifesaving surgery, not cosmetic.


if the suicide rates are basically the same after, it's not life saving tho
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crazygamer21
09/04/17 12:53:21 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
Well I'm not a shitty person, so yes.

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Kineth
09/04/17 12:55:57 PM
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Yes. Hung out with my TG friend yesterday.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/04/17 12:59:06 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
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nice

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BarneyBosco
09/04/17 1:24:34 PM
#81:


Ex-Kefiroth posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
CircleOfManias posted...
Given the suicide rates pre- and post-transition, it's lifesaving surgery, not cosmetic.


if the suicide rates are basically the same after, it's not life saving tho

Did he say they were the same?

Well, he implied them to be better by bringing up pre and post transition then claiming the surgery as being life saving. Did you have a point?
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hockeybub89
09/04/17 1:25:28 PM
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_Goggalor_
09/04/17 1:25:50 PM
#83:


Sure. I know a guy from HS (formerly female). He's pretty cool about it.
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Eevee-Trainer
09/04/17 1:37:12 PM
#84:


Seems ridiculous that some idiots are still bothered by trans people existing

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EdwardoMario16
09/04/17 1:46:47 PM
#85:


Depends on what you mean by "accept".

I don't agree with treating Transpeople as special snowflakes that must be granted special rights and must be immune and protected from criticism. So no, I do not "accept" them.

Seems ridiculous that some idiots are still bothered by trans people existing


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RE_expert44
09/04/17 1:48:24 PM
#86:


BarneyBosco posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
CircleOfManias posted...
Given the suicide rates pre- and post-transition, it's lifesaving surgery, not cosmetic.


if the suicide rates are basically the same after, it's not life saving tho

Did he say they were the same?

Well, he implied them to be better by bringing up pre and post transition then claiming the surgery as being life saving. Did you have a point?

I thought suicide rates actually increased after getting a sex change.
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Medussa
09/04/17 1:50:26 PM
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RE_expert44 posted...
I thought suicide rates actually increased after getting a sex change.


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jborgan
09/04/17 2:00:50 PM
#88:


Yes. The majority of transgender people are reasonable and want to be treated like the average person should be treated: with respect. They don't demand special treatment or demand that you be attracted to them.

They just don't want to be treated like some 5 year old living out a fantasy. That's so insulting. The people that feel the need to mention that stuff don't really seem to get it.
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rexcrk
09/04/17 2:06:38 PM
#89:


I honestly don't care either way.

My philosophy is that anyone can do whatever they want as long as they aren't harming anyone (especially me ;P)
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Callixtus
09/04/17 2:08:11 PM
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I am accepting of the fact that they are innocent people suffering from a mental disorder and support the best options to counsel and treat them.
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--kresnik--
09/04/17 2:08:52 PM
#91:


No.
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MortimerBrewstr
09/04/17 2:14:44 PM
#92:


I'd say no just because my general attitude about people is ambivalence.
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CircleOfManias
09/04/17 2:21:19 PM
#93:


MortimerBrewstr posted...
I'd say no just because my general attitude about people is ambivalence.

You have strong contradictory feelings toward most people?
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Zero_Destroyer
09/04/17 2:23:03 PM
#94:


--kresnik-- posted...
I treat individuals how they treat me. With that said, I'm not in favor of any kind of special treatment. I'm strongly against using government funds to pay for this, under ANY circumstances.



--kresnik-- posted...
No.


You forgot to log into an alt :thinking:
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/04/17 2:27:45 PM
#95:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
I treat individuals how they treat me. With that said, I'm not in favor of any kind of special treatment. I'm strongly against using government funds to pay for this, under ANY circumstances.



--kresnik-- posted...
No.


You forgot to log into an alt :thinking:


Heh. Nice.
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Sayoria
09/04/17 2:31:41 PM
#96:


Wow, nearly half of CE are shitheads.
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Esrac
09/04/17 2:43:39 PM
#97:


I don't know that "accept and support" is the right way to put it for me.

I accept them, in the sense that I acknowledge hormone therapy treatments and cosmetic surgery are probably the most effect methods of treating them that we currently have and they shouldn't be especially abused or discriminated against for it.

But I think we should still look for other treatments that fix whatever is wrong in their brains that's effecting the way they feel about their bodies.
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Sayoria
09/04/17 3:02:18 PM
#98:


Esrac posted...
I don't know that "accept and support" is the right way to put it for me.

I accept them, in the sense that I acknowledge hormone therapy treatments and cosmetic surgery are probably the most effect methods of treating them that we currently have and they shouldn't be especially abused or discriminated against for it.

But I think we should still look for other treatments that fix whatever is wrong in their brains that's effecting the way they feel about their bodies.

You people supporting brainwash make me sick.
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EdwardoMario16
09/04/17 3:09:32 PM
#99:


The majority of transgender people are reasonable and want to be treated like the average person should be treated: with respect.


Respect is earned, you are not entitled to be respected.

They don't demand special treatment or demand that you be attracted to them.


Really?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/trans-man-believes-heterosexual-males-who-reject-him-sexually-are-prejudice

http://www.dailywire.com/news/17419/apparently-youre-deeply-transphobic-if-you-dont-amanda-prestigiacomo#exit-modal
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Kineth
09/04/17 3:09:56 PM
#100:


Not so fucking cool having people speak flippantly about your fucking identity, is it?
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Ving_Rhames
09/04/17 3:11:34 PM
#101:


Yeah, in the way that I don't really give a damn. Why on Earth should I have a problem with them?
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Shadow Flare
09/04/17 3:16:06 PM
#102:


I'm pretty neutral, but at the very least I'm civil.

I do sometimes feel that transgenerism etc is just a mental illness, much like body dysmorphia and a bodybuilder etc thinking there's something wrong with them so they train to improve their image etc.
Gender dysmorphia IS a thing, I'm not entirely sure exacerbating the condition with hormones etc is really necessary or even healthy in the long term, but to each their own, I guess.
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