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BalanceLost 08/26/17 2:56:03 PM #1: |
A church in the south of Sweden held a gathering for families of illegal immigrants when the police showed up unannounced and took five of the six families into custody.
The church is very critical of the actions of the police - churches and their activities are generally regarded as sanctuaries although there isn't any law stating it. http://www.aftonbladet.se/senastenytt/ttnyheter/inrikes/article25778705.ab --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BalanceLost 08/26/17 5:12:00 PM #2: |
Bump
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BalanceLost 08/27/17 5:56:35 AM #3: |
I thought CE would love to debate this tbh.
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Lonestar2000 08/27/17 5:58:14 AM #4: |
Fair, next.
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Rika_Furude 08/27/17 6:04:35 AM #5: |
BalanceLost posted...
The church is very critical of the actions of the police and the world is very critical of the actions of the church. what gives it the right to harbor illegal aliens? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BalanceLost 08/27/17 6:07:59 AM #6: |
Rika_Furude posted...
BalanceLost posted...The church is very critical of the actions of the police They don't have any legal rights to do so, but they refer to a "rulebook" they find very important to justify their actions: The Bible. They will rather break the law than abandon key principles of their faith about being a good fellow human. --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBANN_88 08/27/17 7:26:49 AM #7: |
while i understand what they were going for, the church doesn't stand above the law. not even immigration law.
good on the police for doing their job. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 08/27/17 7:32:17 AM #8: |
ROBANN_88 posted...
while i understand what they were going for, the church doesn't stand above the law. not even immigration law. As far as I know, a church is only really a sanctuary in Highlander movies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColdOne666 08/27/17 8:29:14 AM #9: |
Fair Next.
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BMXJouster 08/27/17 8:37:19 AM #10: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...while i understand what they were going for, the church doesn't stand above the law. not even immigration law. Not in the later movies. LOL --- Diners, Drive-Ins, & Dives "One embarrassing clown's quest for the ultimate case of diarrhea." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/27/17 8:39:16 AM #11: |
Should have been Mosques but good on them for doing their job.
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Sayoria 08/27/17 8:41:34 AM #12: |
Wait, Sweden? Is that a town in the US, because surely this isn't the same Sweden I am thinking of.
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BalanceLost 08/27/17 11:28:22 AM #13: |
ROBANN_88 posted...
while i understand what they were going for, the church doesn't stand above the law. not even immigration law. I agree. But I also respect that the church stick up for their beliefs despite the new laws - it honour them :) Sayoria posted... Wait, Sweden? Is that a town in the US, because surely this isn't the same Sweden I am thinking of. The super generous immigration laws implemented by the Conservative-Liberal coalition which governed 2006-2014 were repealed and replaced with some of the toughest immigration laws in the EU two years ago. Removing the concept of permanent residency permits, border controls/fences, new family reunification laws only fairly well off people can qualify for, increased deportations, removing the need for a warrant when the police search homes, offices and other buildings for immigrants and so forth. --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 08/27/17 11:29:31 AM #14: |
BalanceLost posted...
They don't have any legal rights to do so, but they refer to a "rulebook" they find very important to justify their actions: The Bible. They will rather break the law than abandon key principles of their faith about being a good fellow human. Well, the Bible also allows slavery and calls homosexuality an abomination. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 08/27/17 11:31:42 AM #15: |
Lol, they thought they were safe in God's house.
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BalanceLost 08/27/17 11:32:32 AM #16: |
Mal_Fet posted...
BalanceLost posted...They don't have any legal rights to do so, but they refer to a "rulebook" they find very important to justify their actions: The Bible. They will rather break the law than abandon key principles of their faith about being a good fellow human. Most religious people seem to pick and choose which passages they follow. I can't speak for their exact thought process on this. --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BootyGif 08/27/17 11:33:53 AM #17: |
law is the law but its a bit harsh to do in the middle of church.
its also interrupting other peoples service. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 08/27/17 11:36:37 AM #18: |
But government isn't supposed to enforce border laws. Government is supposed to be a welfare agency for foreigners.
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eston 08/27/17 11:37:58 AM #19: |
lol rekt
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mattnd2007 08/27/17 11:38:49 AM #20: |
Damn. They could have done it somewhere else.
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BalanceLost 08/27/17 2:58:59 PM #21: |
BootyGif posted...
law is the law but its a bit harsh to do in the middle of church. I should have specified it wasn't during a regular service but during a special church led event. --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--kresnik-- 08/27/17 3:02:57 PM #22: |
Church has long been seen as a sanctuary, but it cannot shelter criminals from the cops. The fact that illegal citizenship is a crime is not up for debate.
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iPhone_7 08/27/17 3:05:37 PM #23: |
That'll teach other illegal families from going into public spaces and trying to integrate with western society. They're all criminals, the parents and the children. Take that Antifa!
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Lordsai 08/27/17 4:13:14 PM #24: |
Justice
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JE19426 08/27/17 4:15:26 PM #25: |
--kresnik-- posted...
The fact that illegal citizenship is a crime is not up for debate. What is ilegal citizenship? And how does it differ to regular citizenship? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 08/29/17 4:11:25 AM #27: |
JE19426 posted...
--kresnik-- posted...The fact that illegal citizenship is a crime is not up for debate. legal citizen = being born in the country or going through the immigration process and being allowed in illegal alien = being born outside the country, skipping all immigration procedures, and living in the country and being a drain on society --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 08/29/17 5:20:51 AM #28: |
Rika_Furude posted...
legal citizen = being born in the country or going through the immigration process and being allowed in So what's Illegal Citizenship? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Newhopes 08/29/17 5:30:45 AM #29: |
JE19426 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...legal citizen = being born in the country or going through the immigration process and being allowed in Probably forged papers and a stolen SSN. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 08/29/17 5:31:51 AM #30: |
Newhopes posted...
Probably forged papers and a stolen SSN. What do you mean? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Newhopes 08/29/17 5:38:43 AM #31: |
JE19426 posted...
Newhopes posted...Probably forged papers and a stolen SSN. It's estimated around 1-2 million or one in four "known" illegals use stolen SSN numbers to work and claim benefits. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 08/29/17 5:44:59 AM #32: |
Newhopes posted...
It's estimated around 1-2 million or one in four "known" illegals use stolen SSN numbers to work and claim benefits. Ok, I see what you mean. I wouldn't call that illegal citizenship, but I guess some people must. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 08/31/17 2:44:40 PM #34: |
M3sterybumper posted...
It's citizenship No, it's not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 08/31/17 2:45:54 PM #35: |
In the one hand, that's unfortunate for the poor immigrants :/
I'm the other hand, "during church activities" so they did kinda get what they deserve. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BalanceLost 09/01/17 1:13:33 AM #36: |
iPhone_7 posted...
Take that Antifa! I can't help but be curious about what a USA group got to do with this? --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EternalDivide 09/01/17 1:35:13 AM #37: |
Good. ICE has done that at my local catholic church. And I support it 100%.
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JE19426 09/01/17 2:22:20 AM #38: |
EternalDivide posted...
Good. ICE has done that at my local catholic church. And I support it 100%. I doubt Sweden has many Spainish speaking illegal immigrants. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 09/01/17 2:25:55 AM #39: |
Is sanctuary still a thing? I know it was never legal but I remember my mom saying if you want to the church you could claim sanctuary and the cops wouldn't come in. They'd just wait you out.
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JE19426 09/01/17 2:28:38 AM #40: |
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Is sanctuary still a thing? I know it was never legal but I remember my mom saying if you want to the church you could claim sanctuary and the cops wouldn't come in. They'd just wait you out. Legally, it's never been a thing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 09/01/17 2:41:09 AM #41: |
M3sterybumper posted...
JE19426 posted...Newhopes posted...It's estimated around 1-2 million or one in four "known" illegals use stolen SSN numbers to work and claim benefits. No, it's identity theft along with illegal residence. JE19426 posted... Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...Is sanctuary still a thing? I know it was never legal but I remember my mom saying if you want to the church you could claim sanctuary and the cops wouldn't come in. They'd just wait you out. And generally, if the officers ever followed it, it would be under the assumption that the religious official inside would do his best to convince you to give yourself up. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Etherealfare 09/03/17 1:38:42 AM #43: |
this is like when the emperor tricks the returners to bring all the espers to thamasa and then kefka turns them all to magicite in 1 fell swoop.
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Callixtus 09/03/17 1:45:50 AM #44: |
Arresting people leaving a church is not a good look
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Bloodychess 09/03/17 1:46:03 AM #45: |
Damn, in any other scenario there would be less support for the government or police.
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JE19426 09/03/17 5:43:50 AM #46: |
M3sterybumper posted...
Semantics How so? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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