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CountessRolab
08/26/17 4:30:46 AM
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Can't believe America almost elected a president who did this shit lmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju77qqMKpAY

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CountessRolab
08/26/17 4:34:15 AM
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CountessRolab
08/26/17 4:35:09 AM
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CountessRolab
08/26/17 4:35:59 AM
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Honorable Mention:

Cutting the mic on a 12 year old girl in church when she comes out as a lesbian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_0nhyP6dU4

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SpiritSephiroth
08/26/17 4:36:33 AM
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CountessRolab
08/26/17 4:39:17 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Tag for when I finish work.


I was raised Mormon--I left the church before I was old enough to do this shit, but I confirmed with my parents (former Mormons) and this is all legit. The church has been trying to hunt this guy down.
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CountessRolab
08/26/17 4:43:04 AM
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Correction--I did have to do the baptisms for the dead several times as a young teenager.
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frozenshock
08/26/17 5:36:23 AM
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CountessRolab
08/26/17 2:21:19 PM
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frozenshock posted...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/why-its-not-easy-becoming-an-ex-mormon


Yeah, I went through the whole process. Sent in a notarized letter stating that they are never to contact me again...then they sent people to my house lol.
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glitteringfairy
08/26/17 2:23:02 PM
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Hail Satan
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CountessRolab
08/26/17 2:35:47 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
3 things

1) Celestial room looks beautiful, but the chairs look uncomfortable.

2) Shit's cult-like creepy and way overboard.

3) I laughed at the "patriarchal grip"


Yeah, the celestial rooms are supposed to represent what heaven will be like. They are usually absurdly extravagant with multi-million dollar chandeliers...ya know, because god wants you to buy chandeliers and not feed the poor.
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MetaFalconPunch
08/26/17 2:37:00 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Hail Satan

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lilORANG
08/26/17 2:48:08 PM
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This isn't any weirder than any other church service.
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KhlavicLanguage
08/26/17 2:50:05 PM
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this isnt particularly weird having seen the stuff bigger religions will do
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 2:57:11 PM
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lilORANG posted...
This isn't any weirder than any other church service.


I dont recall ever being to a church service where we wore little green aprons and did secret handshakes before doing godchants.
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lilORANG
08/26/17 3:01:37 PM
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LordBalor4 posted...
lilORANG posted...
This isn't any weirder than any other church service.


I dont recall ever being to a church service where we wore little green aprons and did secret handshakes before doing godchants.

You're already doing stuff to apease God. That's the weird part. How you do it doesn't really matter.

But just for the heck of it, have you been to services where people line up to eat the body and blood of another? Or where children are dunked in a tank to cleanse their soul? Cause that shit happens at even the most liberal christian churches.
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nativengine
08/26/17 3:11:34 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
this isnt particularly weird having seen the stuff bigger religions will do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54iqEr1flQ
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CelestialVoices
08/26/17 3:14:36 PM
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 4:02:09 PM
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Pre-1990s the rituals included a death covenant. Members were required to promise that they would be willing to die instead of telling what happens in the temples. They got rid of that for obvious reasons lmao.
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BignutzisBack
08/26/17 4:02:58 PM
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ThyCorndog
08/26/17 4:03:48 PM
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tag for later
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 4:07:50 PM
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When a young adult goes through the temple for the first time, the vast majority have no idea what to actually expect. Mormons dont talk about this stuff at all.
When my mom went through the temple for the first time, she was like "WTF?". She had no idea it was so culty and it made her feel really weird. There is a reason they only let you in after you have had decades of brainwashing.
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Coffeebeanz
08/26/17 4:15:30 PM
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Where do you put the Kokiri Emerald, Goron Ruby and Zora Sapphire
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nativengine
08/26/17 4:58:51 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Where do you put the Kokiri Emerald, Goron Ruby and Zora Sapphire

Through the hole in the sheet.
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gamer167
08/26/17 5:07:55 PM
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Doesn't look too far off from most other religions really.

It seems weirder mostly because of the costumes and how secretive they are about it.
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butthole666
08/26/17 5:34:42 PM
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lilORANG posted...
This isn't any weirder than any other church service.

Breh I grew up Roman Catholic and this dwarfs anything I had to endure in terms of cult-like nonsense and intolerant douchebaggery
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Etherealfare
08/26/17 5:53:59 PM
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Was raised Mormon - dad went on his 2 year mission - never really believed in it.

This is all true. Baptisms for the Dead. Temples. The weird phrases and terms (doctrine and covenants, holy ghost, I know this church is true, etc)
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 5:57:55 PM
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@butthole666 posted...
lilORANG posted...
This isn't any weirder than any other church service.

Breh I grew up Roman Catholic and this dwarfs anything I had to endure in terms of cult-like nonsense and intolerant douchebaggery


Oh, I guarantee you Mormons are the grand-masters of cult-y, elitist, douchebags. I am gay and was raised Mormon. I cannot even begin to describe how slimy and disgusting their organization is. It is a toxic environment and is basically a hate group.
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 5:58:47 PM
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Etherealfare posted...
Was raised Mormon - dad went on his 2 year mission - never really believed in it.

This is all true. Baptisms for the Dead. Temples. The weird phrases and terms (doctrine and covenants, holy ghost, I know this church is true, etc)


Gotta miss the brainwashing songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcFks_graPQ
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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/26/17 6:00:52 PM
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Is this religion actually weirder than the usual brand of Christianity to people who weren't raised with religion? Because I was raised Mormon (never really believed though) and I don't think it is really any wackier.
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 6:04:16 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Is this religion actually weirder than the usual brand of Christianity to people who weren't raised with religion? Because I was raised Mormon (never really believed though) and I don't think it is really any wackier.


They believe god lives on the magic planet Kolob, the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, there was a massive empire in the Americas (even though there is zero archaeological evidence), their holy text was translated using a rock in a hat, god used to hate black people (but changed his mind when it became politically necessary), and they routinely make excuses for the child sexual abuse perpetrated by the church's founders. I could go on.
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MabusIncarnate
08/26/17 6:07:02 PM
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LordBalor4 posted...
lilORANG posted...
This isn't any weirder than any other church service.


I dont recall ever being to a church service where we wore little green aprons and did secret handshakes before doing godchants.

Me and my Reverand have a 12 step fist bump handshake every Sunday.
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Zikten
08/26/17 6:07:04 PM
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they also teach that every mormon will eventually become a god of their own. with their own entire planet to rule over
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 6:08:56 PM
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Like, all religions are wacky, but you have to be a special kind of ignorant to buy what the Mormons sell. Their holy text is one of the few in the world that can be flat out disproved via modern archaeological evidence.

Not to mention, Joseph Smith literally made his living as a con-man before he started the religion. He would tell people he had a magic rock and could use it to find treasure on their land. He eventually admitted the rock was fake, but ended up using it years later to "translate" the Book of Mormon lol. Understandably, they dont talk about that stuff in church.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/26/17 8:45:48 PM
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LordBalor4 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Is this religion actually weirder than the usual brand of Christianity to people who weren't raised with religion? Because I was raised Mormon (never really believed though) and I don't think it is really any wackier.


They believe god lives on the magic planet Kolob, the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, there was a massive empire in the Americas (even though there is zero archaeological evidence), their holy text was translated using a rock in a hat, god used to hate black people (but changed his mind when it became politically necessary), and they routinely make excuses for the child sexual abuse perpetrated by the church's founders. I could go on.

The first is Scientologists, the second is not really a real point (why NOT Missouri?), the third is all Christians (Noah's Ark etc), the fourth is no sillier than a talking snake or bush, the fifth isn't even true (blacks are still believed to be black due to the curse of Caine), and the sixth is Catholicism.

I maintain that it's not any more or less idiotic than other mainstream religions. The only difference I see is that Mormons believe it wholeheartedly instead of halfheartedly.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/26/17 8:47:09 PM
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LordBalor4 posted...
Joseph Smith literally made his living as a con-man before he started the religion.

This is probably the only argument that doesn't really apply to all of Christianity imo
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lilORANG
08/26/17 8:48:20 PM
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butthole666 posted...
lilORANG posted...
This isn't any weirder than any other church service.

Breh I grew up Roman Catholic and this dwarfs anything I had to endure in terms of cult-like nonsense and intolerant douchebaggery

I grew up roman catholic as well and attempted cannibalism is weirder than secret handshakes.
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CADE FOSTER
08/26/17 8:49:54 PM
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Lonestar2000
08/26/17 8:50:08 PM
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I fucking hate Mormons.
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 9:48:59 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
(blacks are still believed to be black due to the curse of Caine)


LOL
You just said it yourself. Mormons believe blacks are cursed and unclean. That is why they were banned from any church leadership positions until the old white men who run the cult had to cave to social pressure. The organization has racist roots. Quotes from Brigham Young:

"You must not think, from what I say, that I am opposed to slavery. No! The negro is damned, and is to serve his master till God chooses to remove the curse of Ham."

Referencing interracial marriage:
"The moment we consent to mingle with the seed of Cain the Church must go to destruction, - we should receive the curse which has been placed upon the seed of Cain, and never more be numbered with the children of Adam who are heirs to the priesthood until that curse be removed."
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 9:50:29 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
sixth is Catholicism.


Further, the difference here is that child rape is ENSHRINED in the mormon religion. That was basically the reason it was created. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young used the church to have sex, and mormons EMBRACE that. They openly say that god told Joseph and Brigham to do it, and it was 100% ok.
Once again, the church had to stop due to social pressures (though fringe sects like Warren Jeffs' group still do it).
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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/26/17 11:25:06 PM
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LordBalor4 posted...
You just said it yourself.

Actually if you'll remember what you actually said, I completely contradicted you

But yes it's still horse shit. Not functionally different than any other brand of Christianity though, since, as you know, Christianity was also used to justify slavery in the same exact way.

LordBalor4 posted...
Further, the difference here is that child rape is ENSHRINED in the mormon religion. That was basically the reason it was created.

Citation needed

Same can be said of Catholicism considering how rampant it is

I don't believe I've ever in my life heard the idea that there's a systematic coverup of kiddie fiddling in Mormonism like there is in Catholicism
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 11:53:37 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Actually if you'll remember what you actually said, I completely contradicted you



Are you kidding me? You sound like a Mormon apologist.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
curse of Caine

LordBalor4 posted...
You just said it yourself. Mormons believe blacks are cursed and unclean.
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LordBalor4
08/26/17 11:53:39 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Citation needed

I don't believe I've ever in my life heard the idea that there's a systematic coverup of kiddie fiddling in Mormonism like there is in Catholicism


Mormons don't cover it up as much these days, they just apologize for it and say it was god's will. You are making false analogies. I am talking about official church doctrine and teachings, not what some corrupt modern church officials are doing. Nowhere in Catholic teachings does it say it is ok for previous Popes to have sex with underage girls--for Mormons, that behavior is permissible for Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. Want a citation that the LDS chruch makes excuses for the abhorrent behavior of their "prophet"? Here ya go:
http://fox13now.com/2014/10/22/lds-church-issues-new-essays-on-polygamy-acknowledges-joseph-smith-married-teen-girl/
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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/27/17 1:43:15 AM
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LordBalor4 posted...
Are you kidding me? You sound like a Mormon apologist.

You said that god used to hate blacks and apparently doesn't anymore, I was just pointing out that mormons still have the same story on why blacks exist (lol) that as they always did, though it's true that they now let blacks into the priesthood (that was just done, for political expediency I assume, by the prophet of the time, so you're correct to point that out)

LordBalor4 posted...
for Mormons, that behavior is permissible for Joseph Smith and Brigham Young

How does that mean that all mormons are permitted to molest kids to this day? And you're helping make my case for me. That was permitted in the church back then because it was permitted everywhere at the time.

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Sound familiar? It should if you've ever heard an atheist talk about christianity. Boy, that's a bit reminiscent of the bible's tolerance of slavery isn't it...it's almost like all religious teachings and texts are products of their time, written by human men and aren't really the perfect gold standard of human conduct ordained by god??

You're a real goober if you think I'm a mormon apologist btw and probably have something to sell. Your trying to downplay Catholicism's rampant child abuse only adds to that suspicion. I literally have done nothing but bash religion wholesale.

My point is that christians who have the gall to shit on mormons are the saddest of the sad, as if they have a leg to stand on with their belief in talking snakes and 900 year old men, lol.

I'm just here to correct any errors I see and remind people that all this shit's equally stupid
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DifferentialEquation
08/27/17 1:45:29 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FoOutRAj0

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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/27/17 1:54:18 AM
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Also, isn't marriage before adulthood legal if the kid has their parents' permission even today? I didn't bother to click your link until I replied just now but now that I see that she was 15...I mean that's like a year under AoC in most of America right now, no way was that considered strange back then. Shit, that's an old lady to them lmao
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LordBalor4
08/27/17 1:56:45 AM
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lol I love it when ex-mormons still defend the cult
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